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May 22, 2019, 12:07:34 PM
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The Federal Reserve, by manipulating interest rates and creating money out-of-thin air, produces economic bubbles that must always end in painful economic busts.

Have you ever noticed that Fed officials never actually acknowledge any of this? They never warn Americans ahead of time and everyone acts surprised when it all comes down.



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May 22, 2019, 12:20:48 PM
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If you're referring to things like stock market bubbles, the government has a long-standing history of not mentioning that dirty word bubble or any of its synonyms.  This isn't surprising, either.  Can you imagine the panic selling that would ensue if the Fed or any other branch of the government declared that stocks were overvalued to the point of being in bubble territory?  Do you think any government official, elected or not, would want to take responsibility for that?

Alan Greenspan probably was the only one with balls enough to call the market as he saw it in 1996.  He made a speech, in part of which he said:
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He knew that stocks had become inflated to the point that they were severely overvalued, and the media latched onto that phrase "irrational exuberance".  Greenspan may as well have called the market a bubble, but he didn't--he likely knew the selling stampede that would inevitably follow.

So that's why you won't hear the Fed talking about bubbles.  On the other hand, I don't think the stock market is in a bubble right now, or at least it hasn't gotten to the point of insanity that it reached in 2000 right before the big crash (or 1929 or any other crash).

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May 22, 2019, 12:31:28 PM
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FED has their own development policy. FED is different and that's why they always make America rich every year. I think the bubble phenomenon is very recognizable, when the Fed announces that the bubble will immediately explode.
that is their main reason and they want to let everything happen as naturally as possible. that is my personal opinion on this issue.

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May 22, 2019, 01:17:59 PM
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Making money out of nothing in case with FED is a very rough  explanation of thing that is called a monetary policy. American government have to devaluate their currency in order to save its position on global market. For example China is artificialy devaluating their currency to achieve the same goals.
But if we are looking at stock market bubbles then you may notice that until people are talking about bubbles on stock market then we are pretty far from the moment where it would blow up. On the highest prices no one really cares about bubbles.

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May 22, 2019, 01:52:22 PM
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Making money out of nothing in case with FED is a very rough  explanation of thing that is called a monetary policy. American government have to devalue their currency in order to save its position on global market. For example China is artificially devaluating their currency to achieve the same goals. But if we are looking at stock market bubbles then you may notice that until people are talking about bubbles on stock market then we are pretty far from the moment where it would blow up. On the highest prices no one really cares about bubbles.

Any type of government has the tendency to devalue their currency if the situation warrants for it and of course this is to protect their own interest most especially in the global economy. Yes, government will never tell us the real truth and the possible consequences of what they are doing. The most important thing for the government is that things can do well in the short-term sometimes sacrificing the long-term effects most especially if politics can enter the game. This should have been partly avoided if national currency is backed by valuables like gold and this can be the reason why there are now countries returning to the gold standard.
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May 22, 2019, 02:11:22 PM
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The Fed is the US central bank and they have a lot of bank branches in countries around the world. rather, they are actually holding the entire financial situation of the world. they know when the economy will collapse but they cannot report.
they can only set up contingency plans when the economy goes down, Americans can still get jobs and reduce the number of unemployed people.

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May 22, 2019, 02:20:21 PM
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The reason for this is that among the goals of central banks is maintaining price stability and promoting employment. So if they warn investors of an impending doom, it would become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Nonetheless, skepticism of central banks is merited, in my humble view. We like bitcoin precisely because it is immune to the shenanigans of central banks.
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May 23, 2019, 06:26:18 AM
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The reason for this is that among the goals of central banks is maintaining price stability and promoting employment. So if they warn investors of an impending doom, it would become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Nonetheless, skepticism of central banks is merited, in my humble view. We like bitcoin precisely because it is immune to the shenanigans of central banks.
But bitcoin has the potential to be used as an illegal transaction, and we know that may be right now, many illegal transactions have been confirming by the network, but no one will know what that transaction is.
Besides that, the Fed was not acknowledged all of that, and they pretend that they are clean institutions.
Maybe that reason will be true, but once again, we don't know what their plan behind all of this is, and we could only guess.
They don't want to be honest to the public because sometimes if they are honest to the public, that will make the public getting more panic.
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May 23, 2019, 06:31:23 AM
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Why would the FED acknowledge their own mistakes? The financial system was designed to protect the interest of the top 10% of this world, not the interest of the 90% of people that are running around in the little mouse wheel.  Angry

Knowledge is power and they know how to manipulate this system and how to warn the top 10% before things goes down. This is why you never listen to the rich people's public comments, because they will never divulge the truth. <You should find out what they are doing with their own wealth and copy them.>  Wink

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May 23, 2019, 11:22:13 PM
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The FED and the ECB here in Europe are printing as much money as they like, pushing the prices of most things up, without the salary follow up. This money printing QE led to inflations and losses of buying power.
I think the massive central bank money printing is one of the main reason for the price of bitcoins keeps going up.
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May 24, 2019, 12:54:48 AM
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Have you ever noticed that Fed officials never actually acknowledge any of this? They never warn Americans ahead of time and everyone acts surprised when it all comes down.

Because if you leave the economy to the market then they would lose their jobs since would be not needed anymore. There would be no big growth and recessions, but just a steady boring predictable slow growth. No way to earn easy wealth.
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May 24, 2019, 02:58:27 AM
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Have you ever noticed that Fed officials never actually acknowledge any of this? They never warn Americans ahead of time and everyone acts surprised when it all comes down.

Because if you leave the economy to the market then they would lose their jobs since would be not needed anymore. There would be no big growth and recessions, but just a steady boring predictable slow growth. No way to earn easy wealth.
although it is slow but consistent growth, I think it will be better. so that no one is seen manipulating data savagely, like in 2018, it certainly took a lot of casualties. so I'm still sure to be on this road

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They like to do things their way so let them be, lol. They wouldn't even bother checking the debt they have created and the possibilities of collapsing the economy with their trusty QE and bank partners engaging in multiple financial atrocities while the feds keep them safe. Also, why would the feds warn the Americans of what mayhem is to come? That will only be leaving a sudden taste of distrust within the people's eyes so might as well keep things to themselves. Anybody within that small circle of the feds, alongside the rational thinkers know that economic collapse happens every so often, and to keep the panic contained, they just keep it to themselves.

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The Federal Reserve, by manipulating interest rates and creating money out-of-thin air, produces economic bubbles that must always end in painful economic busts.

Have you ever noticed that Fed officials never actually acknowledge any of this? They never warn Americans ahead of time and everyone acts surprised when it all comes down.



Click here to watch this video and to read more:

https://silverliberationarmy.blogspot.com/2019/05/the-fed-never-calls-bubble-bubble-why.html

I'm tired of youtubers trying to draw me to watch their videos on YouTube. If they don't call it a bubble then what do they call it? Whatever it is, we all still know that a bubble is still  a bubble and when it reaches the peak it will always burst. And it's only someone who is foolish would think that the price of any asset would continue to go up forever.

There are times things will lose their value, everything goes round in a circle, it goes to the highest price it can reach at that time and then it drops and waits for another time to rise again. So don't think that they going up forever, they won't.
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May 25, 2019, 07:19:57 PM
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Maybe is their choice, but always was used the term bubble for a bubble, because is wrong to call it on another way because is just a bubble, anyway they can call how they want, this not affect crypto on anyway.
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May 25, 2019, 07:45:13 PM
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It is just human nature.

BTC hodlers weren't calling BTC a bubble in December 2017 neither. (unless they already dumped their bags) There is a minor difference though. The Fed has no other choice. As an investor, I can change my mind and jump from BTC to gold or USD when I think BTC is overpriced or do the opposite when USD becomes overbought against BTC but the FED can't shift its position. They are the casino owners and they have to defend their casino, investments, position no matter how shitty the situation is.

Look at that, they wanted to raise the interest rates but after they got schooled by Trump, they just couldn't do it. It is the most fucked up thing could happen to a central bank. Getting orders from a politician.

The Fed just did that.

They lost their credibility, completely. People see the Fed as a circus now. The trust is gone, that's why Bitcoin is constantly having more and more investors. Gold too, but they are manipulating gold, when they run out of juice gold will make similar parabolic movements just like bitcoin.

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May 26, 2019, 05:28:32 AM
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When some institution,organization or entity has enormous power,it usually abuses that power.The same thing happens with the Federal Reserve System.The main problem is that they have the power to create money out of nothing.

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May 26, 2019, 09:09:59 AM
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The reason for this is that among the goals of central banks is maintaining price stability and promoting employment. So if they warn investors of an impending doom, it would become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Nonetheless, skepticism of central banks is merited, in my humble view. We like bitcoin precisely because it is immune to the shenanigans of central banks.
But bitcoin has the potential to be used as an illegal transaction, and we know that may be right now, many illegal transactions have been confirming by the network, but no one will know what that transaction is.
Besides that, the Fed was not acknowledged all of that, and they pretend that they are clean institutions.
Maybe that reason will be true, but once again, we don't know what their plan behind all of this is, and we could only guess.
They don't want to be honest to the public because sometimes if they are honest to the public, that will make the public getting more panic.

Actually, due to the transparent nature of the blockchain, government agencies are more than happy to see criminals using bitcoin. It's cash that is more difficult to trace. The idea that bitcoin provides true anonymity is no longer accepted in the industry.
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The reason for this is that among the goals of central banks is maintaining price stability and promoting employment. So if they warn investors of an impending doom, it would become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Nonetheless, skepticism of central banks is merited, in my humble view. We like bitcoin precisely because it is immune to the shenanigans of central banks.
But bitcoin has the potential to be used as an illegal transaction, and we know that may be right now, many illegal transactions have been confirming by the network, but no one will know what that transaction is.
Besides that, the Fed was not acknowledged all of that, and they pretend that they are clean institutions.
Maybe that reason will be true, but once again, we don't know what their plan behind all of this is, and we could only guess.
They don't want to be honest to the public because sometimes if they are honest to the public, that will make the public getting more panic.

Actually, due to the transparent nature of the blockchain, government agencies are more than happy to see criminals using bitcoin. It's cash that is more difficult to trace. The idea that bitcoin provides true anonymity is no longer accepted in the industry.
I don't think the government will let the criminals using bitcoin to make an illegal transaction and they will tell them always to use bitcoin.
That is not good because that will make the illegal things will increase and the government will face difficulties to track em down and arrest them because they don't have a proves to do that.
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May 26, 2019, 11:40:33 AM
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Why is this a surprise? Why would they ever publicly and explicitly acknowledge it? Would a crypto project ever confess its inherent weakness? Would you expect a state or private entity to ever concede that its very system is rotten to the core?

The acknowledgements come in quite different ways, but perhaps more meaningful. To me, every time a central bank or a Fed Reserve guy or a traditional market advocate attacks Bitcoin. Or diverts the bubble talk to Bitcoin... That's good news.

Because it shows that they're sitting up and taking notice of Bitcoin. Because it means they recognise its threar against them. Because it shows they acknowledge their systems' weaknesses.

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I think the massive central bank money printing is one of the main reason for the price of bitcoins keeps going up.

How do you mean with this? Maybe you need to make some clarification.

I'm thinking on the contrary rather. I think more cash will reduce the popularity of bitcoin because it won't create artificial fear and money scarcity and it will seem everything is normal, people won't really be keen to make other investment that is not fiat based. For instance, they might not put money in cryptocurrency.

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I think the massive central bank money printing is one of the main reason for the price of bitcoins keeps going up.

How do you mean with this? Maybe you need to make some clarification.

I'm thinking on the contrary rather. I think more cash will reduce the popularity of bitcoin because it won't create artificial fear and money scarcity and it will seem everything is normal, people won't really be keen to make other investment that is not fiat based. For instance, they might not put money in cryptocurrency.

You need to study money and watch some videos on gold. The more that cash is produced or printed - and hence has an increasing supply - the more value other goods have relative to cash. So if you have $100 and the U.S. government decides to double the money supply overnight, bare minimum prices for goods and services will double (perhaps go even higher due to fear). This also scares away investors who seek alternative forms of money perceived as safer - possibly bitcoin.
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The reason for this is that among the goals of central banks is maintaining price stability and promoting employment. So if they warn investors of an impending doom, it would become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Nonetheless, skepticism of central banks is merited, in my humble view. We like bitcoin precisely because it is immune to the shenanigans of central banks.
But bitcoin has the potential to be used as an illegal transaction, and we know that may be right now, many illegal transactions have been confirming by the network, but no one will know what that transaction is.
Besides that, the Fed was not acknowledged all of that, and they pretend that they are clean institutions.
Maybe that reason will be true, but once again, we don't know what their plan behind all of this is, and we could only guess.
They don't want to be honest to the public because sometimes if they are honest to the public, that will make the public getting more panic.

Actually, due to the transparent nature of the blockchain, government agencies are more than happy to see criminals using bitcoin. It's cash that is more difficult to trace. The idea that bitcoin provides true anonymity is no longer accepted in the industry.
I don't think the government will let the criminals using bitcoin to make an illegal transaction and they will tell them always to use bitcoin.
That is not good because that will make the illegal things will increase and the government will face difficulties to track em down and arrest them because they don't have a proves to do that.

It's too late - the government is already monitoring the blockchain and they LOVE IT when criminals use bitcoin, because it makes it easier to catch them. Listen to Anthony Pompliano and other industry experts talk about how much governments love it when criminals use a transparent blockchain. Again, the blockchain is not anonymous - people need to get that out of their heads. The blockchain is pseudonymous.
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I guess it is their job to keep those big companies that need the printing of money continue so why would they talk about it. If you read the book "I want the earth plus %5" you will realize that printing money will never end, the moment FED stops printing money then the big companies will not be able to keep getting more money, if two people have 100 dollars and one gets 5 bucks from the other person then we have two people with 105 dollars and 95 dollars, if that continues forever then eventually one will have zero while the other have 200 and then the person with 200 will not be able to get any more money from the person with zero. That is why FED needs to keep printing money to keep this system continue otherwise it will end badly for everyone involved.
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Whether bitcoin or cryptocurrency, printing of money I don't think it will seize because the economy runs with fiat daily and not bitcoin. Bitcoin is just a safe place for the rich to hide their money in exclusion of third party.
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The Federal Reserve, by manipulating interest rates and creating money out-of-thin air, produces economic bubbles that must always end in painful economic busts.

Have you ever noticed that Fed officials never actually acknowledge any of this? They never warn Americans ahead of time and everyone acts surprised when it all comes down.



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They have their own process and procedure in which they can handle their economy and avoid the so called economic bubble. Anyways, we have different understanding on how they run their economy so we should hold back and not to give different meaning about it.

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That's their job, government are corrupt, they let people suffer for their own interest.
Whatever country you belong, those who are in power has the power to manipulate the world, it's easy for them to cover their wrong doings with their power. But I am not expecting that they can cover up that forever as time will come the truth will come out.

I have no trust in our present financial system, it's run and control by corrupt people, if we want to see some transparency, we should all shift to decentralization and that is where Bitcoin is our savior.

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That's their job, government are corrupt, they let people suffer for their own interest.
Whatever country you belong, those who are in power has the power to manipulate the world, it's easy for them to cover their wrong doings with their power. But I am not expecting that they can cover up that forever as time will come the truth will come out.

I have no trust in our present financial system, it's run and control by corrupt people, if we want to see some transparency, we should all shift to decentralization and that is where Bitcoin is our savior.
therefore what we do is promote bitcoin so that it is widely used by the community, so that it can urge the government to issue policies. so that it can support the existence of cryptocurrency
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Bubble is acceptable in terms of something going way higher in value than it suppose to be, currency could never have that bubble issue because that is called inflation not bubble. For example when Venezuela printed money they had a big trouble and now their currency is a lot worthless then it used to be (not like it used to be worth a lot neither) but that is called inflation and bad inflation could cripple a countries economy for years to come.

Bubble is some product or a stock or something that gets valued way more than what it is IN currency calculations, for example something that costs 10 bucks now valued at 100 tomorrow and 1000 next day is bubble because it probably doesn't worth that but valued at that, 1 dollar will always be 1 dollar, even if purchasing power drops it will still be 1 dollar and that is why it is inflation and not bubble.
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Unfortunately, it is quite true. Well, they might call in a bubble in hindsight, but not in advance. It's tempting to let things be and just hope that the collapse can be avoided since it's huge profits when it works. The reserve has too much power, the guy from the video is right that it can steal the purchasing power from citizens. And not warning people might also be explained by negligence (I think in some cases the Fed might really believe it's gonna be okay) or panic prevention (things will definitely get worse if people sell their assets all of a sudden). And that's why Bitcoin is so cool: no Fed to control the supply and value, no authority with premium knowledge of the issues.

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I'm not concerned that they're not calling a spade a spade. I'm more concerned that they just allow it to lie on the lawn where someone can step on it.

The reason for this is that among the goals of central banks is maintaining price stability and promoting employment. So if they warn investors of an impending doom, it would become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Nonetheless, skepticism of central banks is merited, in my humble view. We like bitcoin precisely because it is immune to the shenanigans of central banks.
But bitcoin has the potential to be used as an illegal transaction, and we know that may be right now, many illegal transactions have been confirming by the network, but no one will know what that transaction is.
Besides that, the Fed was not acknowledged all of that, and they pretend that they are clean institutions.
Maybe that reason will be true, but once again, we don't know what their plan behind all of this is, and we could only guess.
They don't want to be honest to the public because sometimes if they are honest to the public, that will make the public getting more panic.

Actually, due to the transparent nature of the blockchain, government agencies are more than happy to see criminals using bitcoin. It's cash that is more difficult to trace. The idea that bitcoin provides true anonymity is no longer accepted in the industry.

I keep seeing some making that argument when it has already been shown that the FBI is quite capable of tracking transactions. How else were they able to shut down Silk Road?

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actually not possible if the world economy always goes up and always goes down.  if they think crypto is a failure, it's impossible.  because there are a lot of projects that have previously successfully taken the system that was applied via crypto.  but if they are only limited to the assumptions made, it's up to you
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I'm not concerned that they're not calling a spade a spade. I'm more concerned that they just allow it to lie on the lawn where someone can step on it.

The reason for this is that among the goals of central banks is maintaining price stability and promoting employment. So if they warn investors of an impending doom, it would become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Nonetheless, skepticism of central banks is merited, in my humble view. We like bitcoin precisely because it is immune to the shenanigans of central banks.
But bitcoin has the potential to be used as an illegal transaction, and we know that may be right now, many illegal transactions have been confirming by the network, but no one will know what that transaction is.
Besides that, the Fed was not acknowledged all of that, and they pretend that they are clean institutions.
Maybe that reason will be true, but once again, we don't know what their plan behind all of this is, and we could only guess.
They don't want to be honest to the public because sometimes if they are honest to the public, that will make the public getting more panic.

Actually, due to the transparent nature of the blockchain, government agencies are more than happy to see criminals using bitcoin. It's cash that is more difficult to trace. The idea that bitcoin provides true anonymity is no longer accepted in the industry.

I keep seeing some making that argument when it has already been shown that the FBI is quite capable of tracking transactions. How else were they able to shut down Silk Road?


actually even though it is anonymous but it can still be anticipated for those who commit crimes. and this proves for other countries that are corrupt, terrorists as an excuse for not using crypto

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The Federal Reserve, by manipulating interest rates and creating money out-of-thin air, produces economic bubbles that must always end in painful economic busts.

Have you ever noticed that Fed officials never actually acknowledge any of this? They never warn Americans ahead of time and everyone acts surprised when it all comes down.



Click here to watch this video and to read more:

https://silverliberationarmy.blogspot.com/2019/05/the-fed-never-calls-bubble-bubble-why.html

Expecting them to say the truth behind their currency is just stupidity.People will never realize it as well because they are controlling the most of media so only experts might find it and the forum people might help the common people to know about it.
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And that's why Bitcoin is so cool: no Fed to control the supply and value, no authority with premium knowledge of the issues.

But we have mystery whales and big exchanges who secretly work together to create thin order books, to trigger massive sell offs, and to exit scam by pretending they got hacked. And 90% of people are keeping their money on these exchange platforms.

It is not the Fed government,,, but I think exchanges are sometimes the bigger devil.

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And that is why whenever it happens it is like someone died in the family.
It is a surprise which is not a happy one.

Who have the guts to tell it?
None. Why? If you are from the government who will shout it then you will also take that responsibility to answer questions from investors and the media.
If I am one, then I would rather stay silent too.
That is also why they created different stock accounts. There are low risk management and also high risk. I guess if you are investor then just rely with that to avoid a higher loss.
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You never have to trust these people, they only see the market as a business, if the business has great returns it is obvious that they apply the same strategies that have been applied since the 1970s, the strategies are the same, but not the market .
Now onwards FED handles a lot of influences, they have some kind of power and maybe the best reasons are to shut up, but if they try to say Bitcoin bubble they are not right, because you could say they have a conceptual error in the market.

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