Someone is selling green rating (DT)

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Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146287.0

Archive: http://archive.fo/juMUY

@LoyceV @suchmoon do we have any scrap for this kind of thing?

Maybe @Theymos or admins can check IP in this case...

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[LeGaulois]

No matter the color, without a link for reference it worth zero, 99% of the time.
People are desperate...

[o_e_l_e_o]

I saw that post earlier and have been thinking about it for a few hours. After his follow-up post saying he had just sent two ratings to two users, I considered trawling all DT1 and 2 members to find a match. However, that wouldn't actually prove anything - it could well be someone else trying to frame a particular user, and making posts claiming that legitimate feedback has been bought/paid for. I also suspect that this post claiming to have sent two ratings is entirely fictitious, and only there to try to drum up interest in his scam. It could well be that he doesn't have a DT account at all and is just trying to get users to send him money. After all, who are they going to complain to? "I tried to buy trust and was ripped off?" I can't think of a faster way to get yourself red tagged.

The only sure-fire way to link this account to a DT user would be with IP logs or with documented proof of payment and feedback from someone who actually bought from him.

[suchmoon]

@LoyceV @suchmoon do we have any scrap for this kind of thing?

I don't. I'm half tempted to create an alt and try buying it but it's most likely a scam anyway.

[coinlocket$]

No matter the color, without a link for reference it worth zero, 99% of the time.
People are desperate...

I don't think DTs are sending thousands of green feedback daily but you are right this work (scanning) can be worth almost 0.

[LeGaulois]

No matter the color, without a link for reference it worth zero, 99% of the time.
People are desperate...

I don't think DTs are sending thousands of green feedback daily but you are right this work (scanning) can be worth almost 0.

Sorry but I was referring to buying trust not to scrap

[bones261]

Added to the dog pile of red trust for this user, even though it is a throw away account. I'll watch this thread to see if there is anyone stupid enough to post on the open thread that they are interested.

[LoyceV]

@LoyceV @suchmoon do we have any scrap for this kind of thing?

I have Complete overview of users on DT1 and DT2 and their ratings, it's "only" 450 accounts, including links to their Trust rating. So all it takes is 450 clicks and scroll down to see who left Trust today. Shall we devide the work load? I'll check DT2-members 1-100. Update: nothing there.
However, he's probably bluffing, chances are he has no DT-account at all.

I saw that post earlier and have been thinking about it for a few hours.

I saw it too, but since it's self-moderated, I didn't bother posting there. I reported the post to be moved to Digital Goods (at best), the report is marked good but it's still in Services.

I'm half tempted to create an alt and try buying it but it's most likely a scam anyway.

I don't think he'll reveal the account without paying, so there's no use.

[DireWolfM14]

I'm half tempted to create an alt and try buying it but it's most likely a scam anyway.

I was thinking it's almost sure to be a scam, but it would be fun to send an undercover newbie to entrap this shitbird.  If you decide to do it I'll split the fee with you, that way you're not taking on the whole burden of the more-than-likely scam.

[TheUltraElite]

Its probably just a scammer trying to get some money by fooling others into believing they are a DT member. Who cares if someone makes a new account and says that they own a bunch of Rep and want to sell that for a few bucks? Its a easy method to scam newbies of this forum. Trust is something that is not bought. It is earned. If members of this forum follow that, then they wont be scammed by these lowlifes.

Keep piling that account with more red trust.

[Quickseller]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146513.msg51184829#msg51184829

^^Are you able to scrape individual trust ratings? If you can, you could filter all the ratings sent prior to today and who has sent less than two positive rating today.

[o_e_l_e_o]

There is no DT1 or DT2 user (going by LoyceV's list he linked above) who has left two positive feedbacks today. There are 3 users who have left one positive feedback:

TheQuin left feedback for Untold
frodocooper left feedback for helipotte
pandukelana2712 left feedback for Hhampuz

Given that Untold and Hhampuz are already solid green trust, I think it's pretty unlikely either of them are buying trust, lol. And given that frodocooper is staff, I think it's equally unlikely that he is selling trust.

In short, this scammer is, well, scamming.

[LoyceV]

I was thinking it's almost sure to be a scam, but it would be fun to send an undercover newbie to entrap this shitbird.  If you decide to do it I'll split the fee with you, that way you're not taking on the whole burden of the more-than-likely scam.

Paying a scammer will only lead to more of them doing the same.

^^Are you able to scrape individual trust ratings?

I can, but it's a pain to process the data. If it's just 450 pages, checking them manually is less work.

In short, this scammer is, well, scamming.

Good job! I've tagged him as a scammer.

[DireWolfM14]

Paying a scammer will only lead to more of them doing the same.

Of course you're right, and that's not the outcome I want.  And this is in all likelihood nothing but a phishing scam.  The only reason it would be worth the risk is if there was evidence a real DT member was behind this. 

[yahoo62278]

With all the new guys being added to DT 1 and 2 monthly it's quite possible this trust selling shit is happening or will be happening. This particular user may be bluffing this time but it's not out of the realm of possibility.

I would say at a minimum DT users need to always leave a reference link when leaving trust to show the trust is/can be justified and tracked.

[The Cryptovator]

I am suspecting this is just a scam attempt. No one selling positive feedback's but that scammer want to make fool greedy users. Because if anyone selling that positive feedback that it will be very easy to catch him. Just need someone to try to buy from that user. Since thread is self moderated I think that user already scammed other user. No one will expose themselves even they got scam because of red tag.


Whoever don't have positive trust they might try to catch him. Perhaps that scammer will not allow newbie account. Because he might know may be someone will create alt account to catch him. But still I believe this is just a scam attempt.

[Findingnemo]

No one selling positive feedback's but that scammer want to make fool greedy users. Because if anyone selling that positive feedback that it will be very easy to catch him. Just need someone to try to buy from that user. Since thread is self moderated I think that user already scammed other user. No one will expose themselves even they got scam because of red tag.

Its not that quite easy to catch someone who is abusing the trust ratings of DT because of the current often changing DT2 trust list but the user with green trust will get into attention from the members if they are involving in scam or attempt.

[coinlocket$]

In short, this scammer is, well, scamming.

Good catch as I thought we have only a few DT rating/day and is very easy to find if he was selling or if was a scammer.

[BeneShiPos]

trust without any reference should be disregarded.. wouldn’t this fix most of the problem?

[eddie13]

I bet what he just did was troll all you guys and it worked marvelously..