[need DT] using multiple account, trading merit, self-talking, trading trust

[LoyceV]

Do you mean like how darkstar_ gave his own alt darkstar_alt merits

This never happened.

and then both alts gave Lafu Trust?

Wasn't this discussed enough on your link? Including someone from your alt-account isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Or the time LoyceV agonised over giving his own alt merits/trust? (Can't recall which is was - I thought it was an OP, but can't find it - maybe it was a comment).

Do I dare ask for a link with context? Just a guess: this one? If you trust someone, you can include him on your Trust list, and if I want to see the same trust scores from LoyceMobile, I'd have to add the same users to that trust list too.
The only possible conflict lies within the voting for DT. (I use my Mobile to see trust from DT2 instead of my personal trust list.)

Guys, please don't allow Timelord2067 to derail this thread with his trolling.  wwzsocki deserves the effort of staying on point. 

You're right, I'll end this now. Somehow I was summoned on page 5 with claims based on misunderstandings which I thought were cleared 3 months ago.

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[DireWolfM14]

Guys, please don't allow Timelord2067 to derail this thread with his trolling.  wwzsocki deserves the effort of staying on point. 

[The Cryptovator]

Likely we are going off topic

Even if wwzsocki is telling the truth and crypto mania is his friend, there has obviously been an excessive amount of merit cycled between the two accounts.  That's an issue, but is it a red trust issue?  Once again I'll bring up that theymos isn't concerned about merit abuse, because of the decaying nature of sMerit.  

That was point why I have tagged him. A well reputed user should not trade merit with his friend even they are not alt. Of course as a forum member we could send merit anybody if there is quality post even poster is friend or not. But they did extremely too much, judge yourself. Usually I didn't tagged merit abuser but this case drew my attention. If you use admin reference then yes, he deserve tag. They just not send to one but they trade merit each other and I don't think that theymos will encourage such as merit trade.

By the way, I just tag him for lesson. My intention wasn't not to destroy his account. I am saying again, "an well reputed member should not trade merit with his friend" Just send merit on quality post either your friend or not. It doesn't mean all of post your friend's is high quality and others all post is low quality.

@wwzsocki you should know how you have to handle your friend,  theymos didn't encourage to trade merit with your friend.


I am reconsidering to remove your feedback, hope you have lear lot from here. I don't know about other DT's they will remove or not.

[suchmoon]

That's thing, there are no official rules for trading merit with your alts (or friends,)

I know it's nitpicking but this (emphasis mine) is what I would consider a "rule" against meriting alts, along with the obvious ethical concerns:

You get merit points when someone sends you some for one of your posts. Additionally, when someone sends you merit points, half of those points can be sent by you to other people.

It's true though that there is no enforcement of that by forum staff, so it's a gray area left to DT to handle.

[DireWolfM14]

That's thing, there are no official rules for trading merit with your alts (or friends,)

I know it's nitpicking but this (emphasis mine) is what I would consider a "rule" against meriting alts, along with the obvious ethical concerns:

You get merit points when someone sends you some for one of your posts. Additionally, when someone sends you merit points, half of those points can be sent by you to other people.

That's not nitpicking, it's a valid point.  It's obvious to me (and probably most) the merit system is intended to reward folks for contributing to the forum and making it a better place for all.  

Merit shouldn't be used to reward yourself, or help your friends rank up.  And I think those who are blatantly misusing it should be tagged.  I'm just not convinced that's the case in this particular situation.  

[crypto mania]

I want to thank those two DT1 members for removing the trust rating.

I will stop meriting @wwzsocki at all.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

...rules are rules and we have to judge everyone equally.

Please tell me which rules are you talking about?

That's thing, there are no official rules for trading merit with your alts (or friends,) yet there are a few activities that don't violate the rules but are sure to earn you a red-tag.  That's the issue with a decentralized trust system, it's bound to have flaws.  As a community we should work together to mitigate those flaws.
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We don't have to be baby seated at every given opportunity. Not all rules are written to give room for diversity. The beauty of @wwzsocki case is the way both him and the DT members have handled it and it should be applauded. He has proven himself to be a reasonable human unlike other past cases were the accused uses the opportunity to attack the trust (DT) system. Kudos to all parties involved.

[Timelord2067]

Guys, please don't allow Timelord2067 to derail this thread with his trolling.  wwzsocki deserves the effort of staying on point.  

Eh? Pardon? bones261 made a statement in post 4 and I asked for clarification of his statement - nothing more.  The reaction I got was about what I expected.  Interesting narrative you are trying to weave.

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[DireWolfM14]

Interesting narrative you are trying to weave.

What narrative?  You've had no involvement in this thread until you replied with this post which off topic and trolling bones261, Darkstar_, and LoyceV.

And now you're trolling me, so this will be the last reply I'll make on this subject.

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Good idea.  Here, let me help you out and we'll get the whole exchange in the archive.

http://archive.fo/1ePGT#selection-36691.0-36691.48

[mikeywith]

I have read almost every thing on this thread, despite the evidence (which don't confirm OP's claim 100%), I still tend to believe that wwzsocki is telling the truth, I would certainly not bet my house on that, but as long as there is a good possibility of his innocence, and given that wwzsocki is a decent fourm member  and I would say that decent members here are probably only tens or couple hundreds at most , it doesn't make sense to tag him for this , especially that this doesn't involve scam or even an attempt of scam.

I hope @marlboroza will give wwzsocki the benefit of the doubt and not judge a decent a member the way he would judge a regular spammer or scammer.

[marlboroza]

I tried to send a PM to @Marlboroza asking for reconsideration but

It usually happens when someone sends me few messages and I tell them "don't spam my inbox", which usually means - don't spam my inbox.

Just for the record, I think you are alt accounts. There is possibility that you are not(based on your words) but very likely you are(based on proofs). I choose to listen community and members who expressed their opinions(directly or indirectly) about this case and will neutralize -ve. PM unblocked, I am out of this thread.

[wwzsocki]

It usually happens when someone sends me few messages and I tell them "don't spam my inbox", which usually means - don't spam my inbox.

Two to be exact.

...Just for the record, I think you are alt accounts...

I tried to be fully honest with you.

I choose to listen community and members who expressed their opinions(directly or indirectly) about this case and will neutralize -ve. PM unblocked...

Thank you. I can only hope that after some time you will adjust this trust rating accordingly when I stop to merit my friend.