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May 29, 2019, 03:58:26 AM
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Panibagong mixer na naman ang nagsara, bale dalawang mixer na ngayong month pa lang.

1 bestmixer
2 bitblender

Ano sa tingin nyu ang future ng mixer at ano ang possibling dahil ng pagsasara nila, at anong epekto nito sa crypto space?

For me this the nature of their business talaga. Alam nila yung risk involved ang nakakatakot lang talaga eh yung pagsara ng bitblender. Ano ang ang udyok sa kanila? Under pressure pa talaga sila sa gobyerno kaya they chooses to exit na lang kaya matagal tagal na sila sa business. Of course may impact to sa tong mga crypto enthusiast although marami pa naman options jan.

Naalala ko tuloy ang sinabi ni BITMIXER.IO, yung mga wala pa dito ng 2017, yan dati ang pinakamatibay na tumbler service sa community, wala pa Chipmixer nun.

Hi all!
Despite the huge profit we earn, we are closing our activity. Let me explain why.

I'm bitcoin enthusiast since 2011. When we started this service I was convinced that any Bitcoin user has a natural right to privacy. I was totally wrong. Now I grasped that Bitcoin is transparent non-anonymous system by design. Blockchain is a great open book. I believe that Bitcoin will have a great future without dark market transactions. You may use Dash or Zerocoin if you want to buy some weed. Not Bitcoin.

I hope our decision will help to make Bitcoin ecosystem more clean and transparent. I hope our competitors will hear our message and will close their services too. Very soon this kind of activity will be considered as illegal in most of countries.

Cheers,
Bitmixer.IO


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May 29, 2019, 04:51:09 AM
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Panibagong mixer na naman ang nagsara, bale dalawang mixer na ngayong month pa lang.

1 bestmixer
2 bitblender

Ano sa tingin nyu ang future ng mixer at ano ang possibling dahil ng pagsasara nila, at anong epekto nito sa crypto space?

For me this the nature of their business talaga. Alam nila yung risk involved ang nakakatakot lang talaga eh yung pagsara ng bitblender. Ano ang ang udyok sa kanila? Under pressure pa talaga sila sa gobyerno kaya they chooses to exit na lang kaya matagal tagal na sila sa business. Of course may impact to sa tong mga crypto enthusiast although marami pa naman options jan.

Naalala ko tuloy ang sinabi ni BITMIXER.IO, yung mga wala pa dito ng 2017, yan dati ang pinakamatibay na tumbler service sa community, wala pa Chipmixer nun.

Hi all!
Despite the huge profit we earn, we are closing our activity. Let me explain why.

I'm bitcoin enthusiast since 2011. When we started this service I was convinced that any Bitcoin user has a natural right to privacy. I was totally wrong. Now I grasped that Bitcoin is transparent non-anonymous system by design. Blockchain is a great open book. I believe that Bitcoin will have a great future without dark market transactions. You may use Dash or Zerocoin if you want to buy some weed. Not Bitcoin.

I hope our decision will help to make Bitcoin ecosystem more clean and transparent. I hope our competitors will hear our message and will close their services too. Very soon this kind of activity will be considered as illegal in most of countries.

Cheers,
Bitmixer.IO


Siguro kalimitan sa gumagamit ng Bitcoin Mixer ay ginagamit sa mga transaction sa darkweb  At ang darkweb sa pagkakaalam ko, at pwedeng gamitin sa illegal na gawain kaya siguro natatakot na din ang mga founder ng mga bitcoin mixer na ito na baka masangkot sila sa illegal na gawain ng mga user nila.

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May 29, 2019, 05:47:19 AM
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Siguro kalimitan sa gumagamit ng Bitcoin Mixer ay ginagamit sa mga transaction sa darkweb  At ang darkweb sa pagkakaalam ko, at pwedeng gamitin sa illegal na gawain kaya siguro natatakot na din ang mga founder ng mga bitcoin mixer na ito na baka masangkot sila sa illegal na gawain ng mga user nila.

Hindi siguro kalimitan, usually for anonymity lang talaga, yung money launderer, konte lang sila pero yung volume ng transaction nila napaka laki.
Mayroon namang privacy coins as option. Based on my opinion, hindi naman masama ang mixer kaya dapat tingnan rin ang benefits nito hindi lang yung bad side, napaka unfair ng government, gusto nilang alam lahat ginagawa natin at dahil diyan posibling maging target rin tayo ng mga kriminal dahil kung corrupt sila, pwede nilang i leak ang information natin.

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May 29, 2019, 06:06:04 AM
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Siguro kalimitan sa gumagamit ng Bitcoin Mixer ay ginagamit sa mga transaction sa darkweb  At ang darkweb sa pagkakaalam ko, at pwedeng gamitin sa illegal na gawain kaya siguro natatakot na din ang mga founder ng mga bitcoin mixer na ito na baka masangkot sila sa illegal na gawain ng mga user nila.

Hindi siguro kalimitan, usually for anonymity lang talaga, yung money launderer, konte lang sila pero yung volume ng transaction nila napaka laki.
Mayroon namang privacy coins as option. Based on my opinion, hindi naman masama ang mixer kaya dapat tingnan rin ang benefits nito hindi lang yung bad side, napaka unfair ng government, gusto nilang alam lahat ginagawa natin at dahil diyan posibling maging target rin tayo ng mga kriminal dahil kung corrupt sila, pwede nilang i leak ang information natin.

Tama ka, hindi naman lahat, kahit naman average Joe o casual investors/trader na gusto lang making anonymous eh pwede mag mixer. Siguro lang talaga dahil sikat ang bitcoin, yung mga illegal na transactions o yung mga criminal heto ang ginagamit parin sa ngayon kaya mainit parin sa batas.

Pero kung titingnan mo, maraming privacy coins pero kokonti parin ang gumagamit dahil nga hindi sila familiar o baka hindi pa nila alam kung paano mag convert sa fiat nang madalian.

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May 29, 2019, 06:11:26 AM
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One big issue ng mixer is magagamit tlga ito sa ano mang klase ng illegal transactions dahil nga daw magiging mas anonymous yung transaction mo if you are going to use one of this.

Pero recently lang na proved sa lahat na ang pag mix ng coins are still tracable (it was proven by the Europool saying that "You are not anonymous". Therefore kung pag babasihan mo ang statement nila providing the fact that na traced nga nila ang mga certain addresses coming from US and Canada if I am not mistaken. Chipmixer nlng ang natitirang medyo malaking mixing company ngaun and for sure they are under investigation as well.


Kaya hindi na nakakapag taka na kaya i shutdown lahat ng mixing type of services sa crypto industry.


Sa case ng Bitblender hindi natin cla masisi although kahit na hindi pa cla nakakasuhan or being hunted by the authority inonahan na nila ito para hindi pa lumalala ang issue. We can't blame them for that as long as na sa uli naman lahat ng funds. Kumbaga trying to play safe na muna cla ngaun habang mainit pa sa authority ang gantong services.
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May 29, 2019, 06:55:53 AM
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Yeah, right. As long as we have the Black Markets, several mixers will still appear, besides this is were the mixers get an enormous amount of money for the services they offer.  So possibilities for the mixers to be gone completely would be impossible.
It’s not what I’m talking about though. I’m talking about in the future where you won’t need to mix because you are using a different coin like Grin. You could look it up.

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Yeah, right. As long as we have the Black Markets, several mixers will still appear, besides this is were the mixers get an enormous amount of money for the services they offer.  So possibilities for the mixers to be gone completely would be impossible.
It’s not what I’m talking about though. I’m talking about in the future where you won’t need to mix because you are using a different coin like Grin. You could look it up.
Bitcoin is more popular, kaya ito pa rin ang gagamitin ng mga tao.
Yung volatility compared to altcoins, mas less ang bitcoin, speaking of Grin, yung volume niyan masyadong maliit compared to the bitcoins that were being mix through mixers.

If I understand it right, yung process ay kailangan mo pang i trade ang BTC to grin, di ba? kung ganyan, hussle na sa kanila yan, and in the future, posibleng fully compliant na ang exchanges, so need na ang KYC.

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May 29, 2019, 11:27:51 AM
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Siguro kalimitan sa gumagamit ng Bitcoin Mixer ay ginagamit sa mga transaction sa darkweb  At ang darkweb sa pagkakaalam ko, at pwedeng gamitin sa illegal na gawain kaya siguro natatakot na din ang mga founder ng mga bitcoin mixer na ito na baka masangkot sila sa illegal na gawain ng mga user nila.

Hindi din, Bitmixer tackled Bitcoin usage in general. Given the privacy and anonymity of Blockchain, Hindi or malabo na ma itrace back eto sa Bitmixer "Based on what you've said". Bitmixer's knows the risk like others said, pero hindi ko nakikita na naging rason nito yung "masasangkot sila sa illegal". One of the advantages of engaging in crypto ika nga is anonymous tayo. Nasa naging path ng pag gamit ng mga users eto, There are a lot of Bitcoin user are engaging now in illegal activities na medyo taliwas sa nakita ni Satoshi before, Bitcoin is created as an investment and somehow a new mode currency (digitally) pero dahil mabilis na pag angat at pag upgrade ng Bitcoin nag bukas din eto ng pinto, that questions the illegality of transacting Bitcoin.

Napansin eto ni Bitmixer, and as for his/her Faith in Bitcoin not to diminish, he decided to stop operating not because of the threats but because of his/her belief.

*Ps. Opinyon lang po Smiley
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May 29, 2019, 11:55:34 AM
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Hi all!
Despite the huge profit we earn, we are closing our activity. Let me explain why.

I'm bitcoin enthusiast since 2011. When we started this service I was convinced that any Bitcoin user has a natural right to privacy. I was totally wrong. Now I grasped that Bitcoin is transparent non-anonymous system by design. Blockchain is a great open book. I believe that Bitcoin will have a great future without dark market transactions. You may use Dash or Zerocoin if you want to buy some weed. Not Bitcoin.

I hope our decision will help to make Bitcoin ecosystem more clean and transparent. I hope our competitors will hear our message and will close their services too. Very soon this kind of activity will be considered as illegal in most of countries.

Cheers,
Bitmixer.IO


Mukhang nakita nila ang mga susunod na mangyayari. Kung mapapansin natin, naging mainit lalo ang mata ng mga regulators sa bitcoin noon 2017 kaya hindi na din siguro nakapagtataka yung mga crackdown na nangyari.
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May 29, 2019, 12:49:35 PM
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para sakin simple lang naman ang dahilan kung bakit nagsara ang bitblender ito ay dahil sa walang nag mimix marahil ng coin so kung walang nag mimix walang papasok ng profit para sa kanila kaya pinatigil na din ang advertising thru signature campaign kasi walang profit wala nang ipang papasweldo sa mga participants pero mas maganda kung ibabalik nila kahit sa ibang pangalan pa yan.

Aware ang bitmixer sa transaction sa darkweb kaya sila nag shutdown marahil ito din kaya ang dahilan ng bitblender kaya sila nag sara? masyado naman sigurong mababaw ang dahilan kung magsasara sila dahil sa walang nagmimix pero still possible pa din naman.
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para sakin simple lang naman ang dahilan kung bakit nagsara ang bitblender ito ay dahil sa walang nag mimix marahil ng coin so kung walang nag mimix walang papasok ng profit para sa kanila kaya pinatigil na din ang advertising thru signature campaign kasi walang profit wala nang ipang papasweldo sa mga participants pero mas maganda kung ibabalik nila kahit sa ibang pangalan pa yan.

Aware ang bitmixer sa transaction sa darkweb kaya sila nag shutdown marahil ito din kaya ang dahilan ng bitblender kaya sila nag sara? masyado naman sigurong mababaw ang dahilan kung magsasara sila dahil sa walang nagmimix pero still possible pa din naman.

Alanganin yung dahilan na lugi sila since may demand sa ganitong mga services. Kung hindi ka pa aware, yung bestmixer (not bitmixer) ay ipinasara ng Europol kamakailan lang. Tingin mo coincidence lang na bigla titigil ang bitblender?
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para sakin simple lang naman ang dahilan kung bakit nagsara ang bitblender ito ay dahil sa walang nag mimix marahil ng coin so kung walang nag mimix walang papasok ng profit para sa kanila kaya pinatigil na din ang advertising thru signature campaign kasi walang profit wala nang ipang papasweldo sa mga participants pero mas maganda kung ibabalik nila kahit sa ibang pangalan pa yan.

Aware ang bitmixer sa transaction sa darkweb kaya sila nag shutdown marahil ito din kaya ang dahilan ng bitblender kaya sila nag sara? masyado naman sigurong mababaw ang dahilan kung magsasara sila dahil sa walang nagmimix pero still possible pa din naman.

Alanganin yung dahilan na lugi sila since may demand sa ganitong mga services. Kung hindi ka pa aware, yung bestmixer (not bitmixer) ay ipinasara ng Europol kamakailan lang. Tingin mo coincidence lang na bigla titigil ang bitblender?
Baka ayaw ng bitblender makaharap yung mga police kaya nag sara nalang sila, kesa e risk mo yung sarili mo na ma kulong at yung mga profits ng website mo ay kukunin din, i would also do the same thing if i was bitblender.
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Baka ayaw ng bitblender makaharap yung mga police kaya nag sara nalang sila, kesa e risk mo yung sarili mo na ma kulong at yung mga profits ng website mo ay kukunin din, i would also do the same thing if i was bitblender.
Ayun na nga siguro. Ewan ko lang kung maglalabas ang bitblender ng official statement tungkol sa pagsasara nila. Malamang hindi nila sasabihin na tinatakasan nila mga pulis kaya nila ginawa yun.
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Ewan ko lang kung maglalabas ang bitblender ng official statement tungkol sa pagsasara nila...
I doubt they'll do that, syempre itatago nila ang isyu at mga ngyari, besides hindi naman ata necessary na malaman pa ng publiko ang buong pangyayari at details kung bakit sila nagsara. In fact, we already have a hint, so I think that would be enough already. Not to mention the other mixers if that happens to them too, then the same output and the move will they be doing.

Official statement from bitblender will not be given, dahil kung mayroon man, dapat ipinost na nila ito nung nakaraan pa lang sa kanilang ANN.



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@cabalism13 ~ Wake up sleepy head, medyo hindi maayos pagkakaquote mo sa post ng iba Cheesy. It should be like this or not?

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Ewan ko lang kung maglalabas ang bitblender ng official statement tungkol sa pagsasara nila...
I doubt they'll do that, syempre itatago nila ang isyu at mga ngyari, besides hindi naman ata necessary na malaman pa ng publiko ang buong pangyayari at details kung bakit sila nagsara. In fact, we already have a hint, so I think that would be enough already. Not to mention the other mixers if that happens to them too, then the same output and the move will they be doing.
Official statement from bitblender will not be given, dahil kung mayroon man, dapat ipinost na nila ito nung nakaraan pa lang sa kanilang ANN.

Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm just trying to figure out what you really mean.



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May 30, 2019, 04:50:46 PM
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Panibagong mixer na naman ang nagsara, bale dalawang mixer na ngayong month pa lang.

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Ano sa tingin nyu ang future ng mixer at ano ang possibling dahil ng pagsasara nila, at anong epekto nito sa crypto space?

I am surprised with the closure of Bitblender which I assumed is doing a brisk business. Some are speculating that this has something to do with what happened to Bestmixer. Oh well, that means that Chipmixer can be receiving a bulk of the market now for this service. I can see a gloomy prospect for this type of business as of the moment. Maybe when the dust has settled, we can see new sites offering the same service again to the market.
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May 30, 2019, 06:54:08 PM
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Posible nga na may kinalaman ito sa pagsara ng Bestmixer, pero mas mabuti na rin ang ginawa ng Bitblender kaysa magkaroon pa sila ng problemang legal.  Sayang nga lang at marami ang nawalan ng pagkakakitaan sa signature camp.
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May 31, 2019, 02:15:31 AM
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Posible nga na may kinalaman ito sa pagsara ng Bestmixer, pero mas mabuti na rin ang ginawa ng Bitblender kaysa magkaroon pa sila ng problemang legal.  Sayang nga lang at marami ang nawalan ng pagkakakitaan sa signature camp.

talagang magkakaroon ng problema sa legal dahil tinutulungan nila ang mga criminal na hindi ma-trace ang bitcoin.

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May 31, 2019, 06:52:50 AM
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Posible nga na may kinalaman ito sa pagsara ng Bestmixer, pero mas mabuti na rin ang ginawa ng Bitblender kaysa magkaroon pa sila ng problemang legal.  
Posible nga na yan ang dahilan kasi ibang usapan na yan kapag nakipag interact na yung interpol at iba pang agency ng gobyerno na ang trabaho mag seize ng mga kumpanya na may ganitong service.

Sayang nga lang at marami ang nawalan ng pagkakakitaan sa signature camp.
Wala na tayong magagawa, sayang talaga kasi isa yan sa pinakamatagal na campaign.

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May 31, 2019, 06:57:43 AM
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Panibagong mixer na naman ang nagsara, bale dalawang mixer na ngayong month pa lang.

1 bestmixer
2 bitblender

Ano sa tingin nyu ang future ng mixer at ano ang possibling dahil ng pagsasara nila, at anong epekto nito sa crypto space?
when? @@
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