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May 29, 2019, 07:12:21 PM
Last edit: July 01, 2019, 09:49:38 PM by PassThePopcorn
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So a quick little review of the A1041.

Physical Dimensions:

Height:         11.5in
Width:          7.5in with PSU
PSU width:    2.25in
Depth:          7.5in
Without Fan: ~6in (depth without fan)

The login and dashboard pages are slightly different than the previous generations. And by slightly I mean very. But it is very intuitive.

Hashrate:

125
Displayed Average: 31.4 TH (60min)
Pool Average:         35TH (10min) | 27TH (60min)

97
Displayed Average: 31.8 TH (60min)
Pool Average:         33TH (10min) | 32TH (60min)



Power Draw:
240 3 phase**
2000-2200W @ 125F
1900-2000W @ 97F

**The operating environment is above 40C which will account for the increase in power from advertised specs. The miner will be moved around to be tested at different temperatures including manufacturer recommended 25-35C.

Some small issues:

When changing the pool there only seems to be an apply option and nothing to reset/restart cgminer. After entering in the new pool you need to reboot the miner.

Pictures:

Login:



Dashboard:



Log:



Pool Config:



Network:



Admin:



Front:



PSU Side:




Popin back in.

Got a few more in today with the bigger PSU. The bigger PSU does not mount onto the A10, it might just be a development / prototype.

Had a small issue with the first one that was setup it seems to be reporting two bad hashboards, but the second one out of the box seems to work fine.

It is daisy chained to the first one in the OP running two different firmware's and they seem to be getting along fine. From the looks of it the controllers just pass through, I'll need to check on the next one that gets setup but it looked like it won't work with DHCP and I had to set them to static because the default dns wasn't replying.

So far I'm liking them, my only real complaint is having to login so much as it keeps kicking me out of the ui.

Now I'll reiterate that these numbers are in extreme temps but in the short term it looks like in turbo mode:

Poolside - 38-40TH/s
UI         - 35 TH/s
Power Consumption ~ 2.7-2.9kw

Power consumption in turbo is also a calculated estimate as the original A10 is running on the same meter, I'll split it off at some point and get a reading on just the turbo mode.



Notes:

Software - This version of the software is not final and is still being developed, anything software related may change at any time.
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May 29, 2019, 07:12:47 PM
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Any questions or requests?

Looking good. What's the sound like? I haven't been keeping up on the Avalons is this the version that doesn't require a controller?

Sound is very similar to the 851, I don't have it segregated but if I had to guess it is just a bit less than the hum of the 851's. Decibel meter reads between 68-75 but there are other machines and large fans also in the background.

So I take it that for folks who ordered early the A10's have started shipping?

Not to my knowledge, a distributor sent this one for testing.
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May 29, 2019, 07:17:54 PM
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Looking good. What's the sound like? I haven't been keeping up on the Avalons is this the version that doesn't require a controller?


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May 29, 2019, 07:19:55 PM
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So I take it that for folks who ordered early the A10's have started shipping?
And it's running at 109F per yer sshot? Woof!

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And it's running at 109F per yer sshot? Woof!

Got it hovering at a nice 118 Wink seeing what it can handle and how it handles it.
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May 29, 2019, 08:28:43 PM
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"Welecom" - noun

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an instance or manner of greeting someone. Often spelled Welcome in the non crypto space.
"you will receive a warm welecom when your miner over heats"



Not to my knowledge, a distributor sent this one for testing.

This distributor trying to send another for testing. I am thinking Taserz 24 hour mining in my basement then Taserz 24h mining outside in the heat then Taserz 24h mining in the freezer. Followed by Taserz 2.4 minutes deep cleaning with a paint brush. Followed by taserz 24 minutes write up.

But I just want to buy one and get it like now Smiley

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I lol'd a bit at the welecom.

The distributor deals with medium-large customers, if anyone is looking for 50+ shoot me a PM and I'll get you their contact info.
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May 29, 2019, 09:20:56 PM
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Thanks for the report,
cool to see one of these in the wild already. Smiley

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May 30, 2019, 01:22:50 AM
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Ja though of course Kano has been seeing them on his pool for over a month as that's where Canaan does the burn-in testing. Assuming that 109-118F is chip temp gotta say I'm impressed. What's the measured power draw?

Can't wait for the one I ordered a couple weeks ago to ship in July Cheesy

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May 30, 2019, 01:35:39 AM
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Pretty sure he means one is out of the factory / testing area and is actually in someone's hands.

Measured power draw is in the OP about 2kW but it should be noted that this is due to the heat, the miner itself is right around 31TH on the pool and goes between 30-32. The miner is doing everything to stay at the target hashrate even in the extreme temperatures / power draw increase is being caused by the loss of efficiency due to the heat. *Based on the temps and power draw it is right around par with what occurred in testing except I think in their video they only went up to ~40C.
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May 30, 2019, 04:49:34 PM
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My question is does the psu  label read 12.33 volts at 150 amps?

as that would be 1849.50 watts

your watt readings were higher.

2000-2200 at 125f

1900-2000 at 97f

both exceed that label  

unless I read it wrong and it reads 12.33 volts at 180 amps  which makes a lot more sense as that would be 2215 watts

While we don't need 50 units I may want 10-17 units  so if someothers want 10-20 usa based maybe 3-5 people could get a 50 pack.

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My question is does the psu  label read 12.33 volts at 150 amps?

12.35 volts and 150 amps is what the sticker says, however it supposedly can adjust in real-time between 12-14.5V and model number suggests it's rated for 2100 watts.
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okay 2100 works fine.

as 14.5 x 150 = 2175 watts.

so popcorn is pushing gear hard in a hot room and so far it holds up.

that's cool (pun intended).

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May 30, 2019, 11:50:04 PM
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I think the first batch shipping is slated July, next batch available is in August. Demo's are live in the wild obviously.

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okay 2100 works fine.

as 14.5 x 150 = 2175 watts.

so popcorn is pushing gear hard in a hot room and so far it holds up.

that's cool (pun intended).

Yes sir, it still held up all weekend averaging 30.5-32th/s in +110F temps.

The 97F was in an AC'd room however it had poor airflow so I think the area around the miner just warmed up.

12.35 volts and 150 amps is what the sticker says, however it supposedly can adjust in real-time between 12-14.5V and model number suggests it's rated for 2100 watts.

I believe this it is the PSU supplied by Avalon and I was told it auto adjusted, this is the standard miner so no turbo mode.
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I finally got around to updating the Competitive hardware thread, and linked your review under it. Nice to see Avalons still handle the heat, my 741's were great for that on those bordereline days when I wasn't around to tweak them.


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hi guys I am back.

we have  completed our enviromental testing up to 40C,  for all the modes of the miner and yes they can take the heat.

More samples should be going out shortly , we had some software tweaks and  wanted to test the first few thousand machines in all the modes, especially turbo.

We  will open up the ordering. Demand is running pretty high, and manufacturers are light on inventory so first come first serve

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Looks like we're listing for August on 1041 while it's available.

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Bottom line.  It is selling out pretty quickly so that now most large customers are pre purchasing  Sept/Oct.

capacity at the fabs  ( TSMC and Samsung) is pretty tight which means  NO ONE will be able to build a huge wack of machines  ( unlike Q1 and Q2 of 2018 )

With Upstream supply tight and BTC mooning  even old shitty stuff is flying out the door. We just started selling 850! which is basically 851  that didnt met the spec. Moving like crazy.

it looks to me like we will have a repeat of end of 2017  when demand was 10X  the supply. If BTC holds or goes higher then you can expect shortages.

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I will try to reserve some quantity for smaller customers and put some aside for Nick at blokforge. he stuck with bitcoin and us through thick and thin.

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Ja, it's pretty crazy right now. Glad I ordered my A10 through Blokforge in time for the early July delivery. Speaking of which, any better info on when the early July batch will be shipping?

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