Bitcoin usage and misaligned expectations

[bitbunnny]

The point is that people are often exposed to campaigns that show Bitcoin as a tool for easy money over night. Even here on forum. There are lot of misleading and false information and when people who don't know anything about Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies come to that the result could be very wrong.
There is no such thing as free lunch and the same is with Bitcoin. Sometimes I.think that many still don't have clear and precise picture about Bitcoin.

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[Wind_FURY]

Sometimes it depends on who gets to the newbies first. There's a constant misinformation campaign against Bitcoin, and they're very good in gaslighting.

So our work is to make sure the newbies get the proper information. I think that is what a forum is for and even though you wont able to make everyone happy those who want to know more about it will seek out the correct information.

But no one is doing that job except for a few users, like Doomad, because of fear of going into a long debate against "smart" and intimidating people in the forum like franky1.

[TheUltraElite]

There is no such thing as free lunch and the same is with Bitcoin. Sometimes I.think that many still don't have clear and precise picture about Bitcoin.

Free lunch is a false concept introduced by governments of few countries for improving the below poverty line class and idiots extrapolated that for the working class who have a decent earning. Blame that on human imagination and also that they dont have a clear picture of what bitcoin is and how it works. Those who want to pump and dump their coins will be there to do that even after bitcoin (so to speak) and were there even before bitcoin. 

But no one is doing that job except for a few users, like Doomad, because of fear of going into a long debate against "smart" and intimidating people in the forum like franky1.

Instead of calling out names, I feel that what one person can achieve with their own efforts is more important than seeing what the rest of the opposing team is doing. Truely, false propaganda cannot be curbed, because they do it for their own benefit and stopping it means taking away freedom of speech. Focus on what you can do and not what others say about you or your work.

[Chrisdstar]

Bitcoin would soon exceed those expectations and there is alot more hidden potentials in its block chain yet to be discovered

[Wind_FURY]

There is no such thing as free lunch and the same is with Bitcoin. Sometimes I.think that many still don't have clear and precise picture about Bitcoin.

Free lunch is a false concept introduced by governments of few countries for improving the below poverty line class and idiots extrapolated that for the working class who have a decent earning. Blame that on human imagination and also that they dont have a clear picture of what bitcoin is and how it works. Those who want to pump and dump their coins will be there to do that even after bitcoin (so to speak) and were there even before bitcoin. 

But no one is doing that job except for a few users, like Doomad, because of fear of going into a long debate against "smart" and intimidating people in the forum like franky1.

Instead of calling out names, I feel that what one person can achieve with their own efforts is more important than seeing what the rest of the opposing team is doing. Truely, false propaganda cannot be curbed, because they do it for their own benefit and stopping it means taking away freedom of speech. Focus on what you can do and not what others say about you or your work.

It's OK for Roger Ver, and his sockpuppets, to misinform, gaslight, and continue their fraudulent behavior because "freedom of speech"? What about OUR freedom of speech.

[DooMAD]

But no one is doing that job except for a few users, like Doomad, because of fear of going into a long debate against "smart" and intimidating people in the forum like franky1.

Instead of calling out names, I feel that what one person can achieve with their own efforts is more important than seeing what the rest of the opposing team is doing. Truely, false propaganda cannot be curbed, because they do it for their own benefit and stopping it means taking away freedom of speech. Focus on what you can do and not what others say about you or your work.

It's OK for Roger Ver, and his sockpuppets, to misinform, gaslight, and continue their fraudulent behavior because "freedom of speech"? What about OUR freedom of speech.

I'd say we do enough with our freedom of speech.  We call them out on their shenanigans and it seems to work for the most part.  Hopefully only a very small number of people still go away with the wrong impression after we've intervened to combat any FUD.  It's not the easiest job sometimes, but it keeps us in good practice for when the next troll inevitably appears.

[ghost424]

I believe there are some people in the community who are in the standpoint that "Bitcoin isn't successful" unless they can use it for "almost-zero fee" coffee transactions. But is it truly a failure?

I always thought of Bitcoin being free in someway because of its versatile ways on how we can get our hands on it. There are a lot of ways where we can gain Satoshis. People saying that Bitcoin is not successful are those people who have at least lost a lot while they are earning for more Cryptos. They might have created many mistake and might not want to take the blame for it. We can already say that Bitcoin is one of the beat Digital Asset there can be and Blockchain Technology is a revolutionary technology which created even more opportunities to the e-commece.

[TheUltraElite]

I'd say we do enough with our freedom of speech.  We call them out on their shenanigans and it seems to work for the most part.  Hopefully only a very small number of people still go away with the wrong impression after we've intervened to combat any FUD.  It's not the easiest job sometimes, but it keeps us in good practice for when the next troll inevitably appears.

Truely that is what I have been trying to tell. Both sides have full authority to say anything that want. Without looking at what others say about you make some enlightening discussions about bitcoin and its good and bad properties. How people have tried to make it look bad and what others think about it. Make a discssion which is both constructive, promotes constructive thinking and is objective enough and not too subjective.

We have only the power to telling people to become aware of frauds and we cannot make people not invest in them. So if we do our part, I think thats enough for one human to do their part than waste time on trolling trolls.

[Turk Ace]

When you look at what the banking fees are and not just for transactions I mean the monthly fees. The costs are the same or cheaper. If you make few transactions bitcoin will be cheaper. Especially bigger purchases.
If you make many transactions a bank may be cheaper with a special monthly deal for traders and business owners. However, if you use eth or another crypto for cheaper purchases then it will certainly be cheaper then any bank.

[DooMAD]

I'd say we do enough with our freedom of speech.  We call them out on their shenanigans and it seems to work for the most part.  Hopefully only a very small number of people still go away with the wrong impression after we've intervened to combat any FUD.  It's not the easiest job sometimes, but it keeps us in good practice for when the next troll inevitably appears.

Truely that is what I have been trying to tell. Both sides have full authority to say anything that want. Without looking at what others say about you make some enlightening discussions about bitcoin and its good and bad properties. How people have tried to make it look bad and what others think about it. Make a discssion which is both constructive, promotes constructive thinking and is objective enough and not too subjective.

We have only the power to telling people to become aware of frauds and we cannot make people not invest in them. So if we do our part, I think thats enough for one human to do their part than waste time on trolling trolls.

I'm content to do both, heh.  The arguments in support of Bitcoin are nearly self-evident at this stage, so it can get a bit stale repeating the same things time and again.  It's refreshing to open fire on an unsuspecting troll every once in a while.  Like how people appreciate a floorshow with their meal sometimes.  Adds a bit of extra flavour, heh.