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May 30, 2019, 07:34:57 PM
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I have been part of a casino project for a while and have recent come to find out that the "MintDice" account is banned for plagiarism or spamming.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1346119

To the best of my knowledge, the account never spammed or plagiarized anything. As a matter of fact, it's only goal was to help other users. Of course, anything is possible and differing views on "spamming" will vary from person to person. Regardless, I am extremely apologetic to the community if any harm was caused.

All that said, I am looking to launch the product with that account right about now and would really like access restored. I'll make sure any use on the account is extremely conservative with respect to any potential boundaries that could be or have been crossed.
I am even willing to pay a fee / make a donation to BitcoinTalk if that helps expedite the situation.

Thank you so much for your help.




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May 30, 2019, 07:38:23 PM
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I have been part of a casino project for a while and have recent come to find out that the "MintDice" account is banned for plagiarism or spamming.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1346119

To the best of my knowledge, the account never spammed or plagiarized anything. As a matter of fact, it's only goal was to help other users. Of course, anything is possible and differing views on "spamming" will vary from person to person. Regardless, I am extremely apologetic to the community if any harm was caused.

All that said, I am looking to launch the product with that account right about now and would really like access restored. I'll make sure any use on the account is extremely conservative with respect to any potential boundaries that could be or have been crossed.
I am even willing to pay a fee / make a donation to BitcoinTalk if that helps expedite the situation.

Thank you so much for your help.


User   Date   Risked BTC amount   Reference   Comments
theskillzdatklls   2018-01-05   50.00000000      Held onto an investment for a while, paid back amount in full.
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User   Date   Risked BTC amount   Reference   Comments
theskillzdatklls   2018-01-27   50.00000000      Investor
SFR10   2018-02-20   0.01800000   Reference   Designed signatures for MintDice following prepayment, thank you.
MintDiceSupport   2018-03-17   0.00000000      Official support for MintDice.
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May 30, 2019, 07:41:56 PM
 #3

I have been part of a casino project for a while and have recent come to find out that the "MintDice" account is banned for plagiarism or spamming.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1346119

To the best of my knowledge, the account never spammed or plagiarized anything. As a matter of fact, it's only goal was to help other users. Of course, anything is possible and differing views on "spamming" will vary from person to person. Regardless, I am extremely apologetic to the community if any harm was caused.

All that said, I am looking to launch the product with that account right about now and would really like access restored. I'll make sure any use on the account is extremely conservative with respect to any potential boundaries that could be or have been crossed.
I am even willing to pay a fee / make a donation to BitcoinTalk if that helps expedite the situation.

Thank you so much for your help.


User   Date   Risked BTC amount   Reference   Comments
theskillzdatklls   2018-01-05   50.00000000      Held onto an investment for a while, paid back amount in full.
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User   Date   Risked BTC amount   Reference   Comments
theskillzdatklls   2018-01-27   50.00000000      Investor
SFR10   2018-02-20   0.01800000   Reference   Designed signatures for MintDice following prepayment, thank you.
MintDiceSupport   2018-03-17   0.00000000      Official support for MintDice.

Yes, I am associated with the account. I made this fully clear in the OP. Because I myself have an association with the account and have helped to create a business, is that a damnation for all things ever to come?




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May 30, 2019, 08:02:38 PM
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Yes, I am associated with the account. I made this fully clear in the OP. Because I myself have an association with the account and have helped to create a business, is that a damnation for all things ever to come?

Let's dispense with the ambiguous "associations". Is it your account? Did you use it to post on this forum?

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May 30, 2019, 08:08:17 PM
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Yes, I am associated with the account. I made this fully clear in the OP. Because I myself have an association with the account and have helped to create a business, is that a damnation for all things ever to come?

Let's dispense with the ambiguous "associations". Is it your account? Did you use it to post on this forum?

Multiple people have posted with the account, including myself. Probably 5 people. But all content was 100% original non-spam non-plagiarized content designed solely to help users.

Going forward, the account will be limited to just one or two people. (Unless there is some site-wide policy that I am unaware of that restricts the use to single users, in which case I apologize and will not allow that to happen going forward.)




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May 30, 2019, 08:13:51 PM
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Yes, I am associated with the account. I made this fully clear in the OP. Because I myself have an association with the account and have helped to create a business, is that a damnation for all things ever to come?

Let's dispense with the ambiguous "associations". Is it your account? Did you use it to post on this forum?

Multiple people have posted with the account, including myself. Probably 5 people. But all content was 100% original non-spam non-plagiarized content designed solely to help users.

Going forward, the account will be limited to just one or two people. (Unless there is some site-wide policy that I am unaware of that restricts the use to single users, in which case I apologize and will not allow that to happen going forward.)

There's a "ban evasion" rule that doesn't allow you to use any other accounts while one of your accounts is banned (except to create an appeal thread such as this one). You're already breaking that rule and that can earn you a permaban.

25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.[e]

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25. If you get banned (temporarily or permanently) and create a new account to continue posting / sending PMs, it's considered ban evasion. The only exception is creating a thread in Meta about your ban.

Another problem - your sent and received trust ratings and merits, which may earn you red trust.

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You'll just have to wait, unfortunately. Be careful with these types of companies though...they are like banks. They don't hold your coins like they should, they gamble with it and try to make profits with it. Now while price chart is going up that huge, many customers try to get out their funds and they are simply not solvent enough. You have to wait a couple of hours/days/months until new users added funds to pay you out.

Best of luck!

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These companies are like banks. They don't hold your coins like they should, they gamble with it and try to make profits with it. Now while price chart is going up that huge, many customers try to get out their funds and they are simply not solvent enough. You have to wait a couple of hours/days/months until new users added funds to pay you out. Roll Eyes



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This includes both copying parts or the entirety of other users' posts or threads and copying content from external sources (e.g. other websites) and passing it as your own.

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May 30, 2019, 08:20:14 PM
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Yes, I am associated with the account. I made this fully clear in the OP. Because I myself have an association with the account and have helped to create a business, is that a damnation for all things ever to come?

Let's dispense with the ambiguous "associations". Is it your account? Did you use it to post on this forum?

Multiple people have posted with the account, including myself. Probably 5 people. But all content was 100% original non-spam non-plagiarized content designed solely to help users.

Going forward, the account will be limited to just one or two people. (Unless there is some site-wide policy that I am unaware of that restricts the use to single users, in which case I apologize and will not allow that to happen going forward.)

There's a "ban evasion" rule that doesn't allow you to use any other accounts while one of your accounts is banned (except to create an appeal thread such as this one). You're already breaking that rule and that can earn you a permaban.

Another problem - your sent and received trust ratings, which may earn you red trust.

I see. Well this account has existed since 2013 and I'm certainly not trying to evade any bans. I stand by anything that was done so far because I don't think anything was done maliciously. In my own opinion, I also don't think any lines were crossed, but as I've said I'm happy to donate retributions to any mods/bitcointalk for any damage done and lead a very conservative posting moving forward. I don't know what else I can say to that effect.

The trust ratings I also justify because I am applying part of my own reputation behind the company and have made an investment within. Again, maybe there are rules surrounding the legality of this that I don't know. But, from my perspective, if there were a brand new casino out there I'd be much happier to know that an established member of the community was backing the website than a 0 post 0 trust 0-anything. Do you understand where I'm coming from? How else do you fix a gap in knowledge to new users otherwise? If it's illegal for me to back a product I'm endorsing, I guess I don't know what else to say.




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You'll just have to wait, unfortunately. Be careful with these types of companies though...they are like banks. They don't hold your coins like they should, they gamble with it and try to make profits with it. Now while price chart is going up that huge, many customers try to get out their funds and they are simply not solvent enough. You have to wait a couple of hours/days/months until new users added funds to pay you out.

Best of luck!

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These companies are like banks. They don't hold your coins like they should, they gamble with it and try to make profits with it. Now while price chart is going up that huge, many customers try to get out their funds and they are simply not solvent enough. You have to wait a couple of hours/days/months until new users added funds to pay you out. Roll Eyes



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I stand corrected on this, I have no excuse other than I have no idea who did that and will find out. I still feel like there must be a way to make amends. It seems like a huge move to permaban for that.




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You'll just have to wait, unfortunately. Be careful with these types of companies though...they are like banks. They don't hold your coins like they should, they gamble with it and try to make profits with it. Now while price chart is going up that huge, many customers try to get out their funds and they are simply not solvent enough. You have to wait a couple of hours/days/months until new users added funds to pay you out.

Best of luck!

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These companies are like banks. They don't hold your coins like they should, they gamble with it and try to make profits with it. Now while price chart is going up that huge, many customers try to get out their funds and they are simply not solvent enough. You have to wait a couple of hours/days/months until new users added funds to pay you out. Roll Eyes



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I stand corrected on this, I have no excuse other than I have no idea who did that and will find out. I still feel like there must be a way to make amends. It seems like a huge move to permaban for that.
Permaban would be the domino effect of you creating this topic and seeing that affiliated accounts you obviously & own have given yourself false trust,
we dont want problems to arrive from this false security you've attempted to create.
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Permaban would be the domino effect of you creating this topic and seeing that affiliated accounts you obviously & own have given yourself false trust,
we dont want problems to arrive from this false security you've attempted to create.

I'm not fighting you or anyone here. I'm on your side. If you think you need to permaban every single account I have because that is the correct thing to do then by all means, go ahead and do that.

Personally, I don't think this is justified. I am extremely apologetic that there was plagiarism on the account. I have absolutely no excuse and am trying to figure that one out as we speak. But I would like a second chance and can promise nothing else bad will come of it.

I'm not sure what else I can offer since me offering to donate money to efforts of bitcointalk or other seem to have fallen on deaf ears.




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I see. Well this account has existed since 2013 and I'm certainly not trying to evade any bans.

You made at least two posts outside of this thread while your other account was banned. That's ban evasion.

You're also breaking another rule by posting twice in a row. You should really spend 5 minutes reading the rules - getting banned is a good incentive for that.

I stand by anything that was done so far because I don't think anything was done maliciously. In my own opinion, I also don't think any lines were crossed, but as I've said I'm happy to donate retributions to any mods/bitcointalk for any damage done and lead a very conservative posting moving forward. I don't know what else I can say to that effect.

You can't bribe your way out of this.

The trust ratings I also justify because I am applying part of my own reputation behind the company and have made an investment within. Again, maybe there are rules surrounding the legality of this that I don't know. But, from my perspective, if there were a brand new casino out there I'd be much happier to know that an established member of the community was backing the website than a 0 post 0 trust 0-anything. Do you understand where I'm coming from? How else do you fix a gap in knowledge to new users otherwise? If it's illegal for me to back a product I'm endorsing, I guess I don't know what else to say.

Trust ratings and merits (for the most part) are not moderated. It's up to other users whether they see it as untrustworthy. Generally speaking, sending positive trust ratings and merits to your alts is considered untrustworthy even though that doesn't break any forum rules.

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I see. Well this account has existed since 2013 and I'm certainly not trying to evade any bans.

You made at least two posts outside of this thread while your other account was banned. That's ban evasion.

You're also breaking another rule by posting twice in a row. You should really spend 5 minutes reading the rules - getting banned is a good incentive for that.

I stand by anything that was done so far because I don't think anything was done maliciously. In my own opinion, I also don't think any lines were crossed, but as I've said I'm happy to donate retributions to any mods/bitcointalk for any damage done and lead a very conservative posting moving forward. I don't know what else I can say to that effect.

You can't bribe your way out of this.

The trust ratings I also justify because I am applying part of my own reputation behind the company and have made an investment within. Again, maybe there are rules surrounding the legality of this that I don't know. But, from my perspective, if there were a brand new casino out there I'd be much happier to know that an established member of the community was backing the website than a 0 post 0 trust 0-anything. Do you understand where I'm coming from? How else do you fix a gap in knowledge to new users otherwise? If it's illegal for me to back a product I'm endorsing, I guess I don't know what else to say.

Trust ratings and merits (for the most part) are not moderated. It's up to other users whether they see it as untrustworthy. Generally speaking, sending positive trust ratings and merits to your alts is considered untrustworthy even though that doesn't break any forum rules.


Ok, thank you very much for your explanation, it all makes sense. I will refrain from making any outside posting for the time being. I will not attempt to bribe my way out of this. I will wait at least 5 minutes between posting. I'm glad to know that trust ratings can work in the way I intended without breaking rules.

Is there anything else that I should do for the time being or just wait for a resolution from a moderator?




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Doesn't it make fully sense to get banned because of a few lines and being attacked by suchshit as scammer ?

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Is there anything else that I should do for the time being or just wait for a resolution from a moderator?

Considering your situation your only option for a successful appeal would be to show how unbanning that account would be good for the forum. Other than that - you're just gonna have to wait for a global mod/admin to see this thread.

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Is there anything else that I should do for the time being or just wait for a resolution from a moderator?

Considering your situation your only option for a successful appeal would be to show how unbanning that account would be good for the forum. Other than that - you're just gonna have to wait for a global mod/admin to see this thread.

Thank you very much SuchMoon, you've been extremely helpful.

To the mod reading this, here is my plea:

I have been a long time fan of cryptocurrency, my historical posting dating back to 2013 should show this. I have always wanted to help the Bitcoin community in a big way and get involved. Starting in March of 2017 with over 10 of us working we have begun developing this product from the ground up. We really want to do a casino the right way. It will have not only high quality gambling features built from the ground up, but also an investment platform and bot resistant skill gaming. This should appeal to many members of your community due to it's diverse offerings.

This is not a small project that is lightly being thrown onto your forum as spam. This is a very long coming high development project that has had a lot of time/money/resources spent on it to do things the right way. There is a lot of planned continued development into the project as well to further help cryptocurrency space with our innovative and coming Masternode Sharing project, among others.

Being that BitcoinTalk is the best single way to communicate with the community and that we have a fairly large project with an ongoing roadmap, it's best that we have a way to have an open dialogue with the community, for both our and their sake. We have a commitment to ongoing development to offering more robust services with time and that information is best dispelled here through open dialogue that your community members would probably like to both see and voice an opinion on that we can react to accordingly.

Additionally, given that this is no small project, the additions of meaningful projects in general to the cryptocurrency space will help grow it's overall economy. This, in turn, benefits everyone. By shutting down high quality projects like this, everyone loses and the pie shrinks.

I hope you'll keep an open mind and really consider the fact that I meant no ill will and will abide by very strict requirements moving forward.

Thank you.




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Hey Guys, this is Doug Polk. (Ive done some cryptocurrency videos on YouTube and own a crypto media site called CoinCentral.) Happy to prove its me if it ends up mattering.

I dont post much here, but I wanted to just chime in on this subject for skllzdatklls. I have known him for a very long time, we used to live together, and I have done many large transactions with him.  He is one of the most standup guys that I know, and I think there was some confusion here on his end.

From a standpoint of being good for the forum(and bitcoin), we are not bitcoin OG's, but we did get involved back in 2013. This guy absolutely loves bitcoin, he has been way too all in on it for some time, and he even bought me https://i.imgur.com/AJH0nu0.jpg as a birthday present a year ago lol.

Im not fluent on the rules of the forum, so if he has stepped too far over the line then so be it. But what I can say is that sometimes forum rules can be missed and sometimes people make mistakes. If there is a way he can fix this moving forward, so that he can be a member of this community, he would greatly appreciate that.

If I can somehow help in some capacity, or need to prove its me, happy to do that. But I think it would be kind of sad here if such a small mistake ends up costing him the ability to post on this forum at all.

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Question to anyone whom can answer or provide clarity please:

I discovered the person who plagiarized since they admitted to it. Of course, I accept responsibility being affiliated with the account and if that account needs to remain banned permanently, so be it when resolution is decided upon. I'll let the mods or admins decide whatever they think is fair when the time comes. A shame because it's only goal was literally to help BitcoinTalk members during it's early stages.

That said, I feel like my access to BitcoinTalk shouldn't be prohibited with this account. I personally did not plagiarize. IP addresses, computer system metrics or other of any plagiarized post could 100% be checked because there's zero chance they would correlate back to me if verification was needed. For this reason, am I allowed to post? Or does the fact that an affiliated person plagiarized strike against my ability to post until resolution? To my knowledge, I've never committed any offense.

If I'm not allowed to post ever until resolution is reached, is there a general time frame resolutions tend to take?

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If I'm not allowed to post ever until resolution is reached, is there a general time frame resolutions tend to take?

Thank you

Since you already associated yourself with banned account so any posting by you outside of this thread is ban evasion.

I will suggest you to PM Theymos / Hilariousandco about this situation and ask then for you to be not to be considered for ban evasion. Most importantly, you need to give the plagarist account here that can also be booked for plagariasm. 


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If I'm not allowed to post ever until resolution is reached, is there a general time frame resolutions tend to take?

Thank you

Since you already associated yourself with banned account so any posting by you outside of this thread is ban evasion.

I will suggest you to PM Theymos / Hilariousandco about this situation and ask then for you to be not to be considered for ban evasion. Most importantly, you need to give the plagarist account here that can also be booked for plagariasm.  



I sent a PM to Hilariousandco a little while ago detailing this exact situation simply asking if I could go on posting and received no response. I'm sure they are busy.

The plagiarist doesn't have any account of their own on BitcoinTalk. I know their real name if they should be doxxed here but I doubt that's what anyone wants. But if that's procedure, I'm happy to provide that information to the proper parties and a screenshot of their stated confession that was written to me earlier. I could provide details/screenshots from messengers that go all the way back to the beginning of time with this particular individual if that was necessary, though I doubt anyone would want to see that.

As I formerly asked, if outside posting is not allowed, is there a general time frame resolutions take?

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