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With the bull market mining is again profitable, but I haven't seen much info about new GPUs in here...
Would be nice to share what we know and always there is some guy from factory or wholesale which has good info about the new GPUs so hopefully we can hear good news from someone like that also Cheesy

As far as I know the RX 600 series is a rebrand of old Polaris again and recently there are news about RX 3000 (5000) Navi series? What a stupid idea to change the series to be alike Nvidia's... Hopefully it will be RX 5000 at least.


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Update 13 June:
RX 5700 https://www.amd.com/en/products/graphics/amd-radeon-rx-5700
RX 5700 XT https://www.amd.com/en/products/graphics/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt

Update 21 June
https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt-specs-release-date-price-and-everything-we-know/





New NAVI RX 3000 (5000) specs
https://i.imgur.com/JmOdaUK.png
Source: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-navi-everything-we-know,38242.html


Polaris rebrand RX 600

Source: https://www.tomshardware.co.uk/amd-radeon-rx-640-radeon-630-graphics-card,news-60635.html


Update 3 June 2019: https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/navi-rx-5000-gpu-release-date-performance

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i am afraid navi prices will be a bit higher.

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With the bull market mining is again profitable, but I haven't seen much info about new GPUs in here...
Would be nice to share what we know and always there is some guy from factory or wholesale which has good info about the new GPUs so hopefully we can hear good news from someone like that also Cheesy

As far as I know the RX 600 series is a rebrand of old Polaris again and recently there are news about RX 3000 (5000) Navi series? What a stupid idea to change the series to be alike Nvidia's... Hopefully it will be RX 5000 at least.



New NAVI RX 3000 (5000) specs

Source: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-navi-everything-we-know,38242.html

Polaris rebrand RX 600

Source: https://www.tomshardware.co.uk/amd-radeon-rx-640-radeon-630-graphics-card,news-60635.html
Hey, matthew is this already launched? As far as i know, if this is still rumour or speculation because I was reading from some sites. NaVi series is created to be a competitor for RX series, and that's the only thing that I can catch from AMD's live presentation about that.  Cheesy
but if that's cheap and more efficient and I will move to that series. I just heard this series would be launched in the next months.

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June 02, 2019, 10:14:37 AM
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Hey, matthew is this already launched? As far as i know, if this is still rumour or speculation because I was reading from some sites. NaVi series is created to be a competitor for RX series, and that's the only thing that I can catch from AMD's live presentation about that.  Cheesy
but if that's cheap and more efficient and I will move to that series. I just heard this series would be launched in the next months.
Yeah, just rumours. RX should be just rebranded Polaris, according to the Tom's Hardware the Navi should be pretty powerful and cheap.

Navi prototype
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/navi-prototype-cards,39528.html

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These are just rumors for now. More info will be release at E3
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Hey, matthew is this already launched? As far as i know, if this is still rumour or speculation because I was reading from some sites. NaVi series is created to be a competitor for RX series, and that's the only thing that I can catch from AMD's live presentation about that.  Cheesy
but if that's cheap and more efficient and I will move to that series. I just heard this series would be launched in the next months.
Yeah, just rumours. RX should be just rebranded Polaris, according to the Tom's Hardware the Navi should be pretty powerful and cheap.

Navi prototype
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/navi-prototype-cards,39528.html

The series is really interesting and the main thing is very competitive when compared with what other companies offer.
But it still needs to be tested.
Intel should definitely think about it and offer its own option or level the prices of its products so as not to lose the market.
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Good news that they will release new AMD cards around June or July.

What do you think will be the hashrate of these cards?

It seems it is more cheaper than buying Nvidia cards. I hope that we will get news here in my country from the distributor about this card I'm planning to start mining with AMD and let me test if the hashrate is higher than rx400 series.
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If the price is not inflated and the above is indeed MSRP, then I'm sure it will sell great.
AMD is really giving Intel and Nvidia a run for the money.
With Ryzen 3700 and RX3080, it will be a bomb sub $1000 PC to build in Q4 2019.
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Didnt they say that the price for the 2 navi cards that they talked about would be 399 & 499 usd?

But If prices are as in the slide u linked it will surely be pure awesomeness.

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Funny those price rumors, reminds us about ryzen 3000 series price rumors. If the gpu can compete x a rtx 2070, it will not cost 50% less than that. Rumors saying the 3080 will cost $249 is ludicrous. RTX 2070 price point is around $499, so expect the 3080 if is indeed on par x the rtx 2070 to cost as much as 20% cheaper and that is a lot, 20% cheaper is $100, so $399 and that is being very generous. Remember AMD knows stupid miners will pay a lot for them. But even if rx 3080 is $100 cheaper, I myself see nvidia having a slightly edge in performance and a little higher power consumption. I myself think rx 3080 will have a brighter future than the rtx 2070 in the next 2 years or so.

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Funny those price rumors, reminds us about ryzen 3000 series price rumors. If the gpu can compete x a rtx 2070, it will not cost 50% less than that. Rumors saying the 3080 will cost $249 is ludicrous. RTX 2070 price point is around $499, so expect the 3080 if is indeed on par x the rtx 2070 to cost as much as 20% cheaper and that is a lot, 20% cheaper is $100, so $399 and that is being very generous. Remember AMD knows stupid miners will pay a lot for them. But even if rx 3080 is $100 cheaper, I myself see nvidia having a slightly edge in performance and a little higher power consumption. I myself think rx 3080 will have a brighter future than the rtx 2070 in the next 2 years or so.
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This says more realistic pricing, RX 5080 should be priced at 499 USD.
https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/navi-rx-5000-gpu-release-date-performance

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Latest rumours point to the prices being very close to their respective nVidia equivalents. We'll see.
What will be most interesting imo is whether we'll be able to tweak GDDR6 timings. If so, there might be a good advantage to getting some Navi cards vs Team Green... which afaik have not opened up turing memory settings (read-only as I've been told).



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Hey, matthew is this already launched? As far as i know, if this is still rumour or speculation because I was reading from some sites. NaVi series is created to be a competitor for RX series, and that's the only thing that I can catch from AMD's live presentation about that.  Cheesy
but if that's cheap and more efficient and I will move to that series. I just heard this series would be launched in the next months.
Yeah, just rumours. RX should be just rebranded Polaris, according to the Tom's Hardware the Navi should be pretty powerful and cheap.

Navi prototype
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/navi-prototype-cards,39528.html

Intel should definitely think about it and offer its own option or level the prices of its products so as not to lose the market.

Intel?  You sound like a bot that is post farming with generic responses.

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This says more realistic pricing, RX 5080 should be priced at 499 USD.
https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/navi-rx-5000-gpu-release-date-performance

That is on par with my analysis, amd is pricing it high because there will be stupid miners that will buy it because they know coin prices are rising and will keep rising. You have to justify the purchased with performance x power consumption and miners will want the rx 5080 because power consumption matters for them, gamers would careless about that. Stupid gamers trade off 5 fps for 300 watts hehe, their psu burns their houses for only 5 fps more performance and they are happy with it, miners trade off 20% lower consumption for 10% lower performance and that is where rx 5080 is heading x rtx 2070.

I'm tired with the bullshit, I want the days of polaris to return rx 480 for $160, not sure if we will see it return in our generation, 30 - 50 years or so. I think that is over if cryptocoins keep rising. AMD and Nvidia will always have an excuse to price higher their products if cryptocoins keep rising, I think both have been pumping cryptocoins hehe.

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June 04, 2019, 01:57:09 PM
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This says more realistic pricing, RX 5080 should be priced at 499 USD.
https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/navi-rx-5000-gpu-release-date-performance

That is on par with my analysis, amd is pricing it high because there will be stupid miners that will buy it because they know coin prices are rising and will keep rising. You have to justify the purchased with performance x power consumption and miners will want the rx 5080 because power consumption matters for them, gamers would careless about that. Stupid gamers trade off 5 fps for 300 watts hehe, their psu burns their houses for only 5 fps more performance and they are happy with it, miners trade off 20% lower consumption for 10% lower performance and that is where rx 5080 is heading x rtx 2070.

I'm tired with the bullshit, I want the days of polaris to return rx 480 for $160, not sure if we will see it return in our generation, 30 - 50 years or so. I think that is over if cryptocoins keep rising. AMD and Nvidia will always have an excuse to price higher their products if cryptocoins keep rising, I think both have been pumping cryptocoins hehe.
160 USD for RX 480 on Newegg? I wish we have something like this in EU also Cheesy

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This says more realistic pricing, RX 5080 should be priced at 499 USD.
https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/navi-rx-5000-gpu-release-date-performance

That is on par with my analysis, amd is pricing it high because there will be stupid miners that will buy it because they know coin prices are rising and will keep rising. You have to justify the purchased with performance x power consumption and miners will want the rx 5080 because power consumption matters for them, gamers would careless about that. Stupid gamers trade off 5 fps for 300 watts hehe, their psu burns their houses for only 5 fps more performance and they are happy with it, miners trade off 20% lower consumption for 10% lower performance and that is where rx 5080 is heading x rtx 2070.

I'm tired with the bullshit, I want the days of polaris to return rx 480 for $160, not sure if we will see it return in our generation, 30 - 50 years or so. I think that is over if cryptocoins keep rising. AMD and Nvidia will always have an excuse to price higher their products if cryptocoins keep rising, I think both have been pumping cryptocoins hehe.
160 USD for RX 480 on Newegg? I wish we have something like this in EU also Cheesy

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Didnt they say that the price for the 2 navi cards that they talked about would be 399 & 499 usd?

But If prices are as in the slide u linked it will surely be pure awesomeness.


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The latest rumours claim a $499 price tag for the top Navi XT card and $399 for its Navi Pro sibling.
https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/navi-rx-5000-gpu-release-date-performance

They did it but it's still speculation. But i thought that that makes sense for the top of NAVI card will be priced at that rate. If that was true and i will try to get it rather than spend a lot of money on rtx2080. I can get two for how much money that i must spend to buy one rtx 2080.

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June 05, 2019, 07:06:18 AM
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New Sapphire 570s were £199 a few weeks back on Amazon.

They were $160 back in July 2016 and if the mining crazy never happened then the 5070 would be the same value next month.

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June 11, 2019, 11:08:09 AM
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So we got the information now.

379 USD and 449 USD for the new navi cards...

Will be intresting to see how they perform but pricing seems 100 USD to high for my taste.
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June 11, 2019, 11:23:42 AM
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As for me - we have to wait and to see the real prices. And to compare with NVIDIA GPUs. If everything would be similar - i`d prefer NVIDIA surely. But if would be like as TS says - AMD can become better choice.

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