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May 12, 2020, 03:33:23 PM
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Guys, is RX5700 better than Radeon VII ? Because presently the Radeon VII is the highest AMD graphics card with better hashrate when mining cryptonight coins, I haven't have the privilege to try them head to head

Better have a Vega 56 with Vega 64 bios. VII is ways too expensive.
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May 12, 2020, 05:34:35 PM
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Guys, is RX5700 better than Radeon VII ? Because presently the Radeon VII is the highest AMD graphics card with better hashrate when mining cryptonight coins, I haven't have the privilege to try them head to head

I had 12 Radeon VII's and 9 burned up and had to be RMAed.  Radeon VIIs are notorious for failing, I wish it wasn't so or I would have lots of them.  RX 5700 is great I have 18 with zero problems.
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May 13, 2020, 02:25:50 PM
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Guys, is RX5700 better than Radeon VII ? Because presently the Radeon VII is the highest AMD graphics card with better hashrate when mining cryptonight coins, I haven't have the privilege to try them head to head

I had 12 Radeon VII's and 9 burned up and had to be RMAed.  Radeon VIIs are notorious for failing, I wish it wasn't so or I would have lots of them.  RX 5700 is great I have 18 with zero problems.

RedPandaMining had to RMA all of his VII's in one of his videos because he had them connected to breakout boards.
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May 15, 2020, 08:28:03 PM
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I bought a new card, RX 5700XT Gigabyte, I can do 53.5 with 105w 1280 cc, 735mv, Memory at 1870mhz
The core temperature is very good, 60c to 65c, but the memory temperature is 102c  Huh

is it normal to have such temperature at memory? I know these new AMDs are hot, but never seen this temperature on my GPUs

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May 15, 2020, 09:55:10 PM
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I bought a new card, RX 5700XT Gigabyte, I can do 53.5 with 105w 1280 cc, 735mv, Memory at 1870mhz
The core temperature is very good, 60c to 65c, but the memory temperature is 102c  Huh

is it normal to have such temperature at memory? I know these new AMDs are hot, but never seen this temperature on my GPUs


Its probably one of those early cards with faulty coolers that have some distance between cooler and memory
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May 16, 2020, 11:15:00 AM
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I bought a new card, RX 5700XT Gigabyte, I can do 53.5 with 105w 1280 cc, 735mv, Memory at 1870mhz
The core temperature is very good, 60c to 65c, but the memory temperature is 102c  Huh

is it normal to have such temperature at memory? I know these new AMDs are hot, but never seen this temperature on my GPUs


Its probably one of those early cards with faulty coolers that have some distance between cooler and memory

This is my temps running Furmark



I'm doubt, because this card was bought last week, it's a new batch of cards, I'm aware that some of cards have that problems with thermal pads not touching dissipators
Anyone with 5700XT can tell me the normal memory temperatures?

I search in a lot of places, there is some talk about this temp being only the junction temperature of the memory, not the surface temp as we are used to measure in GPUs

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May 16, 2020, 11:53:11 AM
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I bought a new card, RX 5700XT Gigabyte, I can do 53.5 with 105w 1280 cc, 735mv, Memory at 1870mhz
The core temperature is very good, 60c to 65c, but the memory temperature is 102c  Huh

is it normal to have such temperature at memory? I know these new AMDs are hot, but never seen this temperature on my GPUs


Its probably one of those early cards with faulty coolers that have some distance between cooler and memory

This is my temps running Furmark



I'm doubt, because this card was bought last week, it's a new batch of cards, I'm aware that some of cards have that problems with thermal pads not touching dissipators
Anyone with 5700XT can tell me the normal memory temperatures?

I search in a lot of places, there is some talk about this temp being only the junction temperature of the memory, not the surface temp as we are used to measure in GPUs
You can try increasing the fan speed. If mem temperature barely decreases, it could be bad contact between the memory modules and the heatsink.
That being said, memory temps on reference cards are around 90º with auto fan.
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May 16, 2020, 11:55:12 AM
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Also, my experience with Gigabyte cards is that memory cooling is not great. I wouldn't be surprised that is the case.
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May 16, 2020, 01:17:39 PM
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Also, my experience with Gigabyte cards is that memory cooling is not great. I wouldn't be surprised that is the case.

I already did some adjustments on the fan curve and updated the bios of this GPU
I didn't disassembly this card because it's under warranty, but looking to the backplate it looks good, the thermal pads are in touch with the heat sink and there's thermal pads between the board and the backplate too

I tested with some games, and it looks good, 74°c on the vram, but with mining or under stress it's 100°c

I'll wait for more tips, and if someone have this same model, please share your temps

Thanks

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May 17, 2020, 12:37:18 PM
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Good morning to everybody

I have modified the original bios of my Gigabyte 5700XT, only copying the value of the VRAM that appeared in the 1550 field in the rest of the fields. I have flashed that BIOS and now I get 56/57 MHS with a consumption of 123W.

I am a newbie to AMD and I ask for help, how can I modify the BIOS to obtain less electricity consumption? Is there a way to reach 61Mhs as I have seen in some Internet video?

I have no AMD experience, I have never modified BIOS, can I download a Bios Mod for my card from somewhere?

Thank you very much and sorry for the inconvenience.
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May 17, 2020, 03:12:17 PM
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Good morning to everybody

I have modified the original bios of my Gigabyte 5700XT, only copying the value of the VRAM that appeared in the 1550 field in the rest of the fields. I have flashed that BIOS and now I get 56/57 MHS with a consumption of 123W.

I am a newbie to AMD and I ask for help, how can I modify the BIOS to obtain less electricity consumption? Is there a way to reach 61Mhs as I have seen in some Internet video?

I have no AMD experience, I have never modified BIOS, can I download a Bios Mod for my card from somewhere?

Thank you very much and sorry for the inconvenience.

You are already mining with excelent hashrate, do you know the temperature of your vram? (memory temperature) while mining?
I have the same card as you, but I didn't touch in the bios and mine are doing 53mhs with 110w

With this tool: More power tool : https://www.igorslab.de/morepowertool-amd-radeon-rx-5700-und-rx-5700-xt-tweaking-and-overclocking-software/

You can decrease the core clock voltage to 725mv and you'll reduce the power, usage it's easy to use and you will only change the parameters that your windows reads of your card, leaving the bios untouched

And about that videos with 61mhs it's only a command you put on the .bat of your miner, but it's not stable, your card will submit almost all invalid shares

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May 17, 2020, 04:42:33 PM
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Good morning to everybody

I have modified the original bios of my Gigabyte 5700XT, only copying the value of the VRAM that appeared in the 1550 field in the rest of the fields. I have flashed that BIOS and now I get 56/57 MHS with a consumption of 123W.

I am a newbie to AMD and I ask for help, how can I modify the BIOS to obtain less electricity consumption? Is there a way to reach 61Mhs as I have seen in some Internet video?

I have no AMD experience, I have never modified BIOS, can I download a Bios Mod for my card from somewhere?

Thank you very much and sorry for the inconvenience.

You are already mining with excelent hashrate, do you know the temperature of your vram? (memory temperature) while mining?
I have the same card as you, but I didn't touch in the bios and mine are doing 53mhs with 110w

With this tool: More power tool : https://www.igorslab.de/morepowertool-amd-radeon-rx-5700-und-rx-5700-xt-tweaking-and-overclocking-software/

You can decrease the core clock voltage to 725mv and you'll reduce the power, usage it's easy to use and you will only change the parameters that your windows reads of your card, leaving the bios untouched

And about that videos with 61mhs it's only a command you put on the .bat of your miner, but it's not stable, your card will submit almost all invalid shares


Thank you very much for answering. I was going crazy trying to find a way to get 61 Mhs, and in the end it turns out I'm having a good hashrate ...

Temp of my card is 46º with 60% FAN speed

I have tried to lower the core voltage with MSI Aferburner to 750mV, but when doing this the card always returns 0Mhs, and I must restart the computer to return it to normal.

Are you saying that with MorePowerTool I can lower the power without having to flash the BIOS again? Could you tell me where is the value that I should modify?

Many thanks.
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Thank you very much for answering. I was going crazy trying to find a way to get 61 Mhs, and in the end it turns out I'm having a good hashrate ...

Temp of my card is 46º with 60% FAN speed

I have tried to lower the core voltage with MSI Aferburner to 750mV, but when doing this the card always returns 0Mhs, and I must restart the computer to return it to normal.

Are you saying that with MorePowerTool I can lower the power without having to flash the BIOS again? Could you tell me where is the value that I should modify?

Many thanks.

No problem
It's better if you watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X77N4sDXP9g
Because you can understand better

And I'll add this: forget MSI Afterburner, you will only use Radeon Software to set your card
With Radeon you can decrease the clock voltage, the clocks of core and vram, fans and power limit
If you decrease the power limit you can save power (do it slowly until you see a hashrate decrease)

And with this software More Power Tool you can "trick" windows and GPU to let you decrease even more the voltage clock of your CPU, because it's limited to a minimum of 750mv, and you will probably need 725mv, reducing the power usage

And yes, with this software you don't need to flash bios again, it's awesome

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Thank you very much for answering. I was going crazy trying to find a way to get 61 Mhs, and in the end it turns out I'm having a good hashrate ...

Temp of my card is 46º with 60% FAN speed

I have tried to lower the core voltage with MSI Aferburner to 750mV, but when doing this the card always returns 0Mhs, and I must restart the computer to return it to normal.

Are you saying that with MorePowerTool I can lower the power without having to flash the BIOS again? Could you tell me where is the value that I should modify?

Many thanks.

No problem
It's better if you watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X77N4sDXP9g
Because you can understand better

And I'll add this: forget MSI Afterburner, you will only use Radeon Software to set your card
With Radeon you can decrease the clock voltage, the clocks of core and vram, fans and power limit
If you decrease the power limit you can save power (do it slowly until you see a hashrate decrease)

And with this software More Power Tool you can "trick" windows and GPU to let you decrease even more the voltage clock of your CPU, because it's limited to a minimum of 750mv, and you will probably need 725mv, reducing the power usage

And yes, with this software you don't need to flash bios again, it's awesome

hmm i tried all these tricks, MPT mpt , copying straps from 1500 down , even tried 1800 on these new 5700 MSI cards i grabbed to play with no luck on anything

any ideas ?
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I bought a new card, RX 5700XT Gigabyte, I can do 53.5 with 105w 1280 cc, 735mv, Memory at 1870mhz
The core temperature is very good, 60c to 65c, but the memory temperature is 102c  Huh

is it normal to have such temperature at memory? I know these new AMDs are hot, but never seen this temperature on my GPUs

Those temperatures are seen on 5700 line of cards which have the thermal pad problem and even had asus do a revision on theirs to the evo line due to customer complaints.

I had a question for you concerning the memory speed. Does the boost clock memory affect mining in any way? There are cards which can do 2035mhz in their boost but have around the same as the one you listed above for their regular core memory speed.
Now as I was discussing here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5244869
Could you post your response there because I asked someone what manufacturer of cards they were using but did not reply back.
Thanks. Smiley

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May 22, 2020, 01:44:57 PM
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hmm i tried all these tricks, MPT mpt , copying straps from 1500 down , even tried 1800 on these new 5700 MSI cards i grabbed to play with no luck on anything

any ideas ?

Ok, but what are you trying to achieve?
You said you tried these things but what's your objective?





Those temperatures are seen on 5700 line of cards which have the thermal pad problem and even had asus do a revision on theirs to the evo line due to customer complaints.

I had a question for you concerning the memory speed. Does the boost clock memory affect mining in any way? There are cards which can do 2035mhz in their boost but have around the same as the one you listed above for their regular core memory speed.
Now as I was discussing here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5244869
Could you post your response there because I asked someone what manufacturer of cards they were using but did not reply back.
Thanks. Smiley

I find that it's normal temperatures
There are no problems with this model, I opened my rig and put the fans on 60% and the temperature now is 85c, completely normal, because the memory is on 95% load
I tested in games and the temperatura is normal too

I'll read your thread

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May 22, 2020, 03:09:28 PM
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hmm i tried all these tricks, MPT mpt , copying straps from 1500 down , even tried 1800 on these new 5700 MSI cards i grabbed to play with no luck on anything

any ideas ?

Ok, but what are you trying to achieve?
You said you tried these things but what's your objective?





Those temperatures are seen on 5700 line of cards which have the thermal pad problem and even had asus do a revision on theirs to the evo line due to customer complaints.

I had a question for you concerning the memory speed. Does the boost clock memory affect mining in any way? There are cards which can do 2035mhz in their boost but have around the same as the one you listed above for their regular core memory speed.
Now as I was discussing here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5244869
Could you post your response there because I asked someone what manufacturer of cards they were using but did not reply back.
Thanks. Smiley

I find that it's normal temperatures
There are no problems with this model, I opened my rig and put the fans on 60% and the temperature now is 85c, completely normal, because the memory is on 95% load
I tested in games and the temperatura is normal too

I'll read your thread

my stock hashrate is 49 max and power use is high around 140 watts in gpuz

tying to get to the 56 or even 53 mhs and 100 watt in gpu z but the straps amd bios mod seem to do nothing
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May 22, 2020, 03:48:38 PM
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my stock hashrate is 49 max and power use is high around 140 watts in gpuz

tying to get to the 56 or even 53 mhs and 100 watt in gpu z but the straps amd bios mod seem to do nothing

Ah ok now
You can use More Power Tools to decrease the minimum voltage to 725mv on the clock core

Now you go to Wattman (Radeon Settings) and try the following: 1280mhz core clock, 735mv, 1870 memory speed and decrease the power limit to -35

This is the best settings for me, my card is doing 54mhs stable, without any bios mod

Your memory clock is the most important to achieve more hashrate

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May 22, 2020, 05:02:28 PM
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my stock hashrate is 49 max and power use is high around 140 watts in gpuz

tying to get to the 56 or even 53 mhs and 100 watt in gpu z but the straps amd bios mod seem to do nothing

Ah ok now
You can use More Power Tools to decrease the minimum voltage to 725mv on the clock core

Now you go to Wattman (Radeon Settings) and try the following: 1280mhz core clock, 735mv, 1870 memory speed and decrease the power limit to -35

This is the best settings for me, my card is doing 54mhs stable, without any bios mod

Your memory clock is the most important to achieve more hashrate

So bios strap mod is not importan ? you dont need to flash the MPPT settings ?
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May 22, 2020, 05:15:06 PM
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So bios strap mod is not importan ? you dont need to flash the MPPT settings ?

I prefer not to use bios mod to not lose warranty if I need

You have to understand that with bios mod you are flashing the bios of your card, on hardware level and with MorePowerTool you'll modify the values of the software on Windows, so your Windows will read the values of MorePowerTool, without need to flash the bios, you just need to use the program and restart your computer

I suggest you to read: https://www.igorslab.de/morepowertool-amd-radeon-rx-5700-und-rx-5700-xt-tweaking-and-overclocking-software/

There's plenty of information on Youtube too

In my case, I didn't touch the bios and my card is doing 54Mhs, it's good enough for me, I don't want to take risks to achieve 56Mhs, but it's up to you

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