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May 25, 2019, 05:30:55 PM
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Good day. I am sorry, I know English badly. I will try to tell you through the translator. Yesterday, all of my 0.24 btc coins were stolen from my wallet. I saved them for so long, I wanted to go on vacation with children, and now everything. I am in complete despair, I do not know what to do. How can I return the coins?
I had this program for a long time, a separate computer on OS Mac. I don't even work on it.
I had only a password, but friends of my friends said that it was necessary to have a 2FA wallet. Now I understand that it was necessary to update the new file with 2FA protection.
How can I return the coins Huh ((((((((



You can't, you were a victim of fraud. The message you saw was a trap sent by phishers and you downloaded and installed a fake wallet to steal your coins.

Never trust the internet, or your computer, especially with money or privacy. Double check first if its true or you are getting lied.

Internet is not a safe playground, it is dangerous, VERY dangerous. Apple is not going to protect you either, do not trust companies.

Your money is lost. Some people have lost millions, because they did not took due precautions, they didn't double/triple check before touching the software, or made sure to use a secure computer with a secure OS to handle large amounts of money.

In Bitcoin, all transactions are final.



Dimon why not, you can get this money back through the BTC settlement companies, Blockchain, they are also engaged in translations! In any case, they can block the wallet and return the money to the owner on the basis of evidence. The screenshots are proof between the owner of the money and the shameful scam !!!!!!

This is false. Translate this:

In Bitcoin, all transactions are final.



I can not agree with you.
It was in the official wallet (!) That the message was updated. Naturally, the address of the site was not indicated, I later extracted it from the history. The task of developers to close such vulnerabilities. The notification probably came from the block check servers, and who monitors and checks them. What work has been done to inform users about the existence of such vulnerabilities and to combat it. There is a fake site address, someone is paying for hosting and domain, maybe there is a chance to identify the perpetrators or at least their geography. There is a transcription address, following the block chain you can set the approximate damage and the scale of fraud. Unfortunately, most users do not have the knowledge and capabilities. This is a problem for both users and developers, and we need to fight it together!

There is a warning in the official Electrum page since version 3.3.3. This is not an attack to Electrum, but against users. Electrum cannot stop thieves from convincing you to download their fake software, if you do not put the smallest effort to investigate things BEFORE bad things happen. Electrum cannot police the world. This is not Electrum fault.

Of course a collective effort could be made to report such incidents, and exchanges or online services might agree to help freeze the funds if the thieves try to use their service.

You are not the only one, many people fall pray by internet thieves, because they exploit the weak human nature when the software is good.


This is the same as if you are going to the bank with your money to make a deposit, but the street is blocked because someone parked a large truck in the way. While you are waiting, an unknown person approaches you, shows you a Bank card and informs you he represents the bank, that you could trust your money to him. AND you decide to hand over your money, thinking he is honest. Then you never see your money or the individual ever again.

This is what a phisher does.


How are we going to stop people in the world to stop falling to the tricks of phishers? We try and try to warn people, but there are millions who never bother until its too late.

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May 28, 2019, 01:36:18 PM
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 I can not agree with you.
It was in the official wallet (!) That the message was updated. Naturally, the address of the site was not indicated, I later extracted it from the history. The task of developers to close such vulnerabilities. The notification probably came from the block check servers, and who monitors and checks them. What work has been done to inform users about the existence of such vulnerabilities and to combat it.
The problems have already been rectified. Since version 3.3.3. Electrum no longer shows any messages to users and if you are using a version older than 3.3.3. you can no longer connect to Electrum servers!

They have also warned users about the phishing messages on their github but the problems is that people don't read these or any other instructions until it is too late.

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To users: when you broadcast a transaction, servers can tell you about errors with the transaction. In Electrum versions before 3.3.3, this error is arbitrary text, and what's worse, it is HTML/rich text (as that is the Qt default). So the server you are connected to can try to trick you by telling you to install malware (disguised as an update). You should update Electrum from the official website so that servers can no longer do this to you. If you see these messages/popups, just make sure you don't follow them and that you don't install what they tell you to install. The messages are just messages, they cannot hurt you by themselves.

Read this: https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/issues/4968


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In which company do these guys work who control the private keys ??
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May 28, 2019, 04:20:00 PM
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B кaкoй кoмпaнии paбoтaют эти peбятa кoтopыe кoнтpoлиpyют зaкpытыe ключи??

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In which company do these guys work who control the private keys ??


One of the bitcoin slogans is "be your own bank"...
YOU should controll your OWN private keys... If you fall for a scam there is NO central bank you can complain to, there should be nobody controlling your keys but yourself.
There are a couple online wallets, but if you use them you are trusting them instead of yourself.

In your case, the only one you can actually blame is the scammer who took your money... You can (and should) go to the police, but you should realise they cannot give your money back and they can not force anybody to give you your money back... No central authority and confirmed transactions are virtually irreplaceable (unless you own billions of dollars worth of asic's)

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B кaкoй кoмпaнии paбoтaют эти peбятa, кoтopыe кoнтpoлиpyeт зaкpытыe ключи??

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In which company do these guys work who controls the private keys ??
there are no company. bitcoin isn't a company.
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In which company do these guys work who controls the private keys ??
There is no company or institution controlling Bitcoins or your private keys.
Only you and the people who know your private keys can move them from the associated addresses. Electrum doesn't know your keys either.
You have to understand that Bitcoin is not like your bank. Someone can't just block your bitcoin wallet or take your bitcoins from you.  

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May 29, 2019, 05:24:02 PM
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That's complete bullshit I just downloaded it on my PC brand new laptop straight from https://electrum.org

and it threw an error asking me to update on the FIRST RUN.

one of the github contributors is infecting the wallet.
Maybe you should show us where the heck is this “infected” code. After all, everything is freaking public. You know that, right? I’m still waiting for your virus proof in the other thread btw. Wink

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May 29, 2019, 05:36:01 PM
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He's telling the truth, They are infecting people by the mass... I have proof I'm compiling it all now... I've spent the last hour removing it from my main PC

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May 30, 2019, 10:16:11 AM
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He's telling the truth, They are infecting people by the mass... I have proof I'm compiling it all now...

Sure  Roll Eyes

Maybe you should stop blaming other and admit that you downloaded a fake version  Roll Eyes

You can't even properly download the correct version, but have proof that the original electrum is malicious. Sure.  Roll Eyes



I've spent the last hour removing it from my main PC

Then you're doing something wrong  Grin

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May 31, 2019, 09:03:22 AM
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He's telling the truth, They are infecting people by the mass... I have proof I'm compiling it all now... I've spent the last hour removing it from my main PC
Check the signature of the wallet you downloaded and compare with what it should be. You will notice that you most likely have a fake wallet.
You can find instructions how the verify the signatures on the download page on the official site.

Here is ThomasV's signature:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/spesmilo/electrum/master/pubkeys/ThomasV.asc

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i am pretty sure he has downloaded like me the fake version of electrum wallet from GitHub .. and thats how lost funds .i have myself a big lost, but to say truth i am pretty sure admins or workers from electrum wallet behind .. because i got a window to download wallet directly in wallet ! .

funds are gone for sure ...
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June 02, 2019, 04:58:55 AM
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but to say truth i am pretty sure admins or workers from electrum wallet behind .. because i got a window to download wallet directly in wallet ! .
No... It wasn't the "admins or workers". Unfortunately there was a "bug" in the Electrum code that meant that a "bad" server could return any message it liked to a client and include links. Scammers found the bug and then exploited it to send phishing messages advertising the fake versions from fake github sites Undecided This bug was then patched to prevent the phishing messages from being displayed.

Refer: https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/issues/4968


funds are gone for sure ...
Unfortunately, yes... that much is certain Sad

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