Liberated: LoyceV's Legendary Little Lightning Loans Lowered

[LoyceV]

See this pictureas an example of what I believe the issue to be.

Maybe. Or maybe it's a flaw in routing, I've experienced before that I couldn't send a transaction directly, but I could send it to another service first, and complete it from there. That means a route is possible.

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[Rath_]

@LoyceV, could you post a screenshot of that error message? I am quite sure that it used to look different. One month ago, Eclair Mobile got an update in which they fixed an issue in route calculation for direct payments. Do you have the latest update? Also, can you try paying the following invoice? Don't worry, I won't rip you off

Code:

lightning:lnbc1u1pwklmz9pp5987tgmjjphl4vzgdehzkcz60dqv2rdjk5c25nanndddh3pkrjcvsdp223jhxapqw3exzmnnv93hg6t0dcsxvmmjypxx77trv5xqr4rqrzjqwryaup9lh50kkranzgcdnn2fgvx390wgj5jd07rwr3vxeje0glc7zxq2cqqj8cqqqqqqqlgqqqqqeqqjqhs579ahpp79u9wzp0xlgpn6fx79cr4enq8ld0zqeukjj0w6prxns54qwrk8wkmnc4pz67qy7a07jkqg4u5jy93rmjv9mmjcu0luaveqq7zj7e9

lightning:lnbc100u1pwklj00pp52src254vfseudduyxhw39sfd2kjl2fnaculgewvf43xahm9ukuxqdqqxqr4r qrzjq2jl4pzdxy84stfqnlnyjdftyf2ypw99femnv8eznwujacnreplx7zgv6qqqnqgqqqqqqqlgqqq qqeqqjqt2df0c90fsnvxf50fnmw0yfq02yp2eaddd3j96h0hlxh55m74wyklsm6k7m90r6xwtl7tjqd rtmhf0y4mpw8m6sjxcnyjds5tnrlmucql8t0e6

I got a different error. "Processing node does not know the next peer in the route".

[DireWolfM14]

It is also possible that the channel that DireWolfM14 is connected to is a node that is not well connected to the rest of the LN network. I ruled out this being the case for LoyceV because he used both his local LN wallet and a custodial wallet that I believe to be well connected to the LN network.

That's possible.  I chose the node based on proximity using the map found here: https://explorer.acinq.co/
I'm connected to BonsaiSoftware's node, peer ID: 02a5fa844d310f582d209fe649352b225440b8a54e77361f229bb92ee263c87e6f

[LoyceV]

@LoyceV, could you post a screenshot of that error message?

That's terrible on mobile, I'll just type it:

Alert

API error: Payment failed. Does the receiver have enough inbound capacity? (code 10)

I'm using Bluewallet, and Android doesn't tell me there's a newer version. I could pay your request, but I can pay the same amount to lightning-roulette.com.

[Rath_]

I'm connected to BonsaiSoftware's node, peer ID: 02a5fa844d310f582d209fe649352b225440b8a54e77361f229bb92ee263c87e6f

It seems to be well-connected. ACINQ, satoshilabs, bitreffil, LNBIG.com nodes have open channels with this node, so the liquidity shouldn't be the issue.

[LoyceMobile]

I sent 10000 sat from Bluewallet to Eclair: that worked.
I tried 100 sat after this: same error as before.
I sent 25253 sat from Bluewallet to Coinplaza: that worked.

[DireWolfM14]

I closed the channel with BonsaiSoftware and tried to open one with ACINQ, but I don't have enough funds in the wallet anymore.  I'll fund the wallet soon and try again with a different node.  I may even try Bluewallet next to see if I run into fewer errors. 

[LoyceMobile]

I've funded my Eclair again, I'll try different paths next time.

[Timelord2067]

I've funded my Eclair again, I'll try different paths next time.

I've now got four channels on each of my three devices, so I'll try again with the only one that has an incoming channel.

Code:

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

(Adding a 4th channel is a bit redundant as it doesn't have the inbound on it as yet)

[LoyceV]

Code:

lnbc1pwh2vk2pp50qj48fd3xzg9h5s5tj2uh3dj9xa0qu9v7686n880fssmg938t8sqdqu2fhkzmtfdenjqnzwyptkzmrvv46qxqr4rqrzjqwryaup9lh50kkranzgcdnn2fgvx390wgj5jd07rwr3vxeje0glc7z89q5qqssqqqqqqqqlgqqqqqeqqjqrzjqw2sxwe993h5pcm4dxzpvttgza8zhkqxpgffcrf5v25nwpr3cmfg7z80dyqq2cqqqqqqqqlgqqqqqeqqjqrzjqwxtjcva9yaumdy42vxws7p32n9ljqj4ch9v58t2mtl77hh8lzrzvzgwlgqqszqqqqqqqqlgqqqqqeqqjqrzjqfs04d3nqehd0vwehxu2p7kg0c2hn5tsn6r5629q69c6rawy8wu8wzgr6qqqsjsqqqqqqqlgqqqqqeqqjq38jt8u508v98hqckpdscj55vdlha9p7nm4zdfjst8wz7udx2rq9p23wx5t8f5uu25q6hy7n54l7sywn9xeuu6kcknsamr7870j0j6ngqhvlkya

I still can't send a payment
Bluewallet gives the same error as last time:

Alert
API error: Payment failed. Does the receiver have enough inbound capacity? (code 10)

Eclair made 10 attempts, and alternates different errors:

• channel is currently disabled
• processing node does not know the next peer in the route
• payment fee was below the minimum required by the channel

From both wallets, I also tried sending a few satoshi. This failed too.

[Timelord2067]

Inbound channel is 0.01 so should be good...

Code:

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

[LoyceV]

Code:

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

I get the same error.

[LoyceV]

I'm closing this topic for a while. I couldn't even send a few satoshis from Bluewallet to my Eclair wallet, so I closed the channel for now.
I may reopen this in a couple of months.

[LoyceV]

It's been almost 4 months since I locked this thread, and I saw bitmover missed my thread, so I've opened it again. Let's see if LN has improved a bit now. Most of my other LN-payments to well-connected nodes work without problems.
Payment requests in BlueWallet should now expire in 24 hours instead of 1 hour, so that should make things much easier.

[Timelord2067]

It's been almost 4 months since I locked this thread, and I saw bitmover missed my thread, so I've opened it again. Let's see if LN has improved a bit now. Most of my other LN-payments to well-connected nodes work without problems.
Payment requests in BlueWallet should now expire in 24 hours instead of 1 hour, so that should make things much easier.

Welcome back - I'll be the first cab off the rank:

Code:

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(24 hour expiry)

[LoyceV]

Code:

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

Sent! It worked at first try (using BlueWallet), with 32 satoshi fee. Which wallet do you use now?

[Timelord2o67]

Sent! It worked at first try (using BlueWallet), with 32 satoshi fee. Which wallet do you use now?

Still using Zap (on the PC) for incoming and Éclair on mobile for outgoing.

Thanks to CoinPlaza I've been boosting my Zap wallet's to eight X BTC 0.011  channels by setting up the Chanel, cashing out BTC 0.01 and repeating as well as sending BTC 0.005 to the Éclair wallet via only inbound (paid for) with the other channels cancelled until I can fix up that problem I was telling you about.


Feel free to send over a repayment request. (I've got to repay Jack when he comes back online too)

[Timelord2067]

Hi, Can you post a 24 hour request for repayment, so that I can repay the testing of the network. Thanks.

[LoyceV]

eight X BTC 0.011  channels

Did you use different nodes for each channel? If so: how do you select them?
Judging by my transaction, at least one of them is now well-connected

Don't know if I am doing it correctly.
But downloaded the wallet. Didn't say anything about request option.

I've deleted your post (and I'm not quoting your Bitcoin address for you).
Feel free to apply again after you've installed a LN-compatible wallet. If you don't know how, at least start by saying which wallet you're trying to use.

Hi, Can you post a 24 hour request for repayment, so that I can repay the testing of the network. Thanks.

I had kids-day yesterday, hence the delay:

Code:

lnbc100500n1p0qnjxppp5ljauujm8tppqcm26g2wkn5p9r9tyucsrwzw3nvuq9fkv67gwyadsdr92fjhgatjdcs8getnwskzqjfqvdex2ct5v4jzqcfqdejhwgrhv9kxcet5yp5kugzzd36k24mpd3kx2apqdf6hxapqvehhygr5dp5hxcqzpgxqyz5vqtraga3fgwvv94j2xdt5jenet0mvyrwu328pu4mjd5df7vmejqrz5pahxq95hwp90u3jrllgq8zmq9l0xvm925jwtzyncxx2g0h9g6tcqpvxwhx

I created a new wallet in BlueWallet just for this payment. That's one of the perks of being custodial

[Timelord2o67]

I'll have to reply to your question later as I've just arrived at work and it'll take a bit of typing.

Have repaid testing loan:

Code:

fcbbce4b6758420c6d5a429d69d02519564e6203709d19b3802a6ccd790e275b

Regards,