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December 19, 2019, 09:50:25 AM
Last edit: December 19, 2019, 04:15:31 PM by notbatman
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@Cryptotourist,

   "The lunar phase or phase of the Moon is the shape of the directly sunlit portion of the Moon" -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_phase

Different face, different shape, different phase; you lose.

NASA started this semantic pissing contest by changing 'face' to 'phase' so their propaganda agents could "work it", but they lose when a strict definition is used, as is the case when the scientific method is applied. The best part of their fail is confirmation, when all observers document the same lunar image (rotation and refraction not withstanding).

What they've attempted and failed to do is change their claims from what's observed i.e. the face, to what is theorized i.e. the sphere.

NASA is a deception and they're NOT A SPACE AGENCY but a propaganda agency, that's why it's NEVER A STRAIGHT ANSWER with them.

This classic NASA footage will help you understand the process better. | https://youtu.be/N-4BFfdGufo
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December 19, 2019, 10:02:22 AM
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In the 1950's two nations we're competing to achieve the first country to obtain space flight capabilities, of course it wasn't easy as expected, there were numerous trials and errors even russia decided to send a dog to space just to test out their rocket ship and what could be the complications in space, unfortunately the dog died and got burned while in the stratosphere and decided to give up and settled for earth orbital missions.
But after many years of experimenting and failures in 1969 US finally manage to be able to land on the moon.

Spaceflight and the apollo mission is real, if it isn't then we wouldn't learn how the galaxies and the solar system really works.

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December 19, 2019, 05:25:04 PM
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^^^ All observers see the same face, you're wrong or you're lying.

Nope, gotcha.

https://astronomy.stackexchange.com/questions/1840/how-far-apart-can-two-people-watch-the-moon-simultaneously

From Astronomy stack-exchange (yes I check his numbers).

If we take 6371.0 km as the mean radius of Earth, an apogee of Moon of 405503 km, and a perigee of 363295 km, we get ratios of 6371.0 km / 405503 km = 0.01571 = sin 0.9002° resp. 6371.0 km / 363295 km = 0.01754 = sin 1.005°. So on both sides of Earth between

40030 km⋅0.9002°/360°=100 km
and
40030 km⋅1.005°/360°=112 km,

with an average circumference of 2𝜋⋅6371 km=40030 km,
... the 20015 km of the half circumference of Earth as zone of visibility.

40030 km⋅0.9002°/360°=100 km


The calculation is simplified to the simultaneous visibility of a point at the distance of the center of moon. More precisely one part of the moon can be visible from one observer, while an other part of the moon is visible from a second observer. This adds between 29.3 and 34.1 arc minutes or between 54.3 (apogee) and 63.2 km (perigee) to the diameter of the zone of visibility.

Verifying this with a telescope shows the Moon to be a sphere.
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December 19, 2019, 06:11:55 PM
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^. Nice one, but hey - Houston we have a fucking problem.
Batty here, confuses face with phase. It's his NASA syndrome.

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December 20, 2019, 03:12:45 AM
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^. Nice one, but hey - Houston we have a fucking problem.
Batty here, confuses face with phase. It's his NASA syndrome.

Well, Moonbat has now been presented with a simple trig proof that the Moon is a sphere, or I guess a wacko could argue that it is only proven it is 51-52% a sphere, by two distant observers looking at the Moon.

And that it is only 59% a sphere, since one observer sees somewhat different parts at different times (libration).

None of his lying, story-making, or fantasies will help.

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December 20, 2019, 04:32:01 AM
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If you believe in such thing so much, how can you not believing thing in such a way so much too?
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December 20, 2019, 07:57:26 AM
Last edit: December 20, 2019, 08:20:44 AM by notbatman
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^^^ All observers see the same face, you're wrong or you're lying.

Nope, gotcha.

...

...If we take 6371.0 km as the mean radius of Earth...

They make an assumption that the earth's surface curves, it does not. You've proven nothing then accuse me of lying? Proof doesn't rely on assumptions, go find a length of rope asshole...

On top of that the fags at stackexchange are describing the theoretical area two simultaneous observers can view a theoretical moon globe from a theoretical earth globe. It doesn't even deal with reality or the question at hand and has nothing to do with empirical observations motherfucker!

The globe fails a distance to the horizon test (no curvature), a reproducible test that can be performed with a super-zoom camera.

Simultaneous observers see the same lunar face (rotation and refraction not withstanding), a reproducible test that can also be performed with super-zoom cameras.

You're a gatekeeping cock smoker pushing fairy tales and theoretical fancy.
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December 20, 2019, 09:23:31 AM
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They make an assumption that the earth's surface curves, it does not. ~

It's not an assumption you fucking moron.

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December 20, 2019, 09:45:13 AM
Last edit: December 21, 2019, 08:13:15 AM by notbatman
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They make an assumption that the earth's surface curves, it does not. ~

It's not an assumption you fucking moron.

...
   Flat Earth Proven Again - 11.22 Miles and ZERO Curvature [Wide Awake] -- https://youtu.be/6hqzqmY9ny8

^^^ There, you've been provided with documented evidence that the earth's surface doesn't curve. Anybody with a super-zoom camera can reproduce this distance to the horizon test and fail the globe with a wide margin of error.

You're defending an incorrect assumption and I just proved it with documented evidence, faggot.

The stackechange article that led this question of assumptions doesn't even deal with the question of whether all observers see the same face of the moon or not. You guys are so full of shit you have to move the goal posts and can't deal with the question at hand. Not only that, even when you move the goal posts I still hand you your ass on silver platter with documented reproducible evidence.

Fuck off and die.
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December 20, 2019, 10:57:41 AM
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I was not aware that youtube videos are scientific proof.

You can squeak n scream all you want, but at the end of the day, you are nothing but a dumb lying cunt.

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December 20, 2019, 11:13:01 AM
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^^^ I provide documented video evidence that can be reproduced, something you faggots can't do.

You're the cunt liar with your NASA propaganda.
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December 20, 2019, 12:37:58 PM
Last edit: December 20, 2019, 02:02:39 PM by Spendulus
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They make an assumption that the earth's surface curves, it does not. ~

It's not an assumption you fucking moron.
It would be an assumption if it had not previously been proved mathematically, which of course it has, hundreds of years ago. But let's prove the matter here and now, and for this purpose consider it an assumption.


^^^ All observers see the same face, you're wrong or you're lying.

Nope, gotcha.

...

...If we take 6371.0 km as the mean radius of Earth...

... fags at stackexchange ....empirical observations motherfucker.... gatekeeping cock smoker ....

Nope. You are done, buddy. Any amateur astronomer (down to a ten year old) knows the facts on this one. It's called "name the craters I can see in different phases of the Moon."

They make an assumption that the earth's surface curves, it does not. You've proven nothing then accuse me of lying? Proof doesn't rely on assumptions, go find a length of rope asshole...

This is backwards. Make the prediction (if earth is round then distant observers see different parts of the moon) and then do the math. If the results correspond with the observations, confirm the hypothesis.

The results do agree with the observations. Secondly, libration is impossible without a spherical moon. All observers of the moon see libration.

You are done. Now run along, cry to mama, maybe you'll get some hot milk and cookies with your blanket.
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December 20, 2019, 06:25:22 PM
Last edit: December 20, 2019, 06:52:40 PM by notbatman
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That's right folks, they can't refute the claim all observers see the same lunar face. All these clowns can do is dance around the subject, you know that dance that Jews do.

Mental acrobatics at its finest.



Here's video of them shutting it down. -- https://youtu.be/ubUooQ8wrwk

Currently all YouTube "Flat Earth" and "Moon Hoax" searches lead to nothing but globalist propaganda.
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December 20, 2019, 08:49:46 PM
Last edit: December 21, 2019, 12:48:33 AM by Spendulus
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That's right folks, they can't refute the claim all observers see the same lunar face. .....

They do not, and your little farce is over. How about admit it. You've got a moon that's a sphere and the earth is a sphere, approximately.

Or do you think that you can argue against a mathematical proof with insults.

If so, that's not going to get you an A. That will get you an F.

Since you like to use sexual-orientation directed insults, and since I'm half drunk, I have one for you. Well, really more of a joke than an insult.

How about you get some cojones (eg ... "balls"... eg  ... "SPHERES") and admit you have been wrong?
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December 21, 2019, 05:46:54 AM
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I feel pretty much the same after all these years trying to convince myself about this issue.

I know there are many proofs:
Lunar Ranging Retro Reflector (LRRR);
Hammer-feather drop; and
More moon landings.

And then I remember how primitive 60s cars and bikes are, and ask "really?"


It is interesting when you look at the facts about the launch and the mission itself, especially involving the technology that was used to actually get there. For example, they say they used only had 1Mb of memory space to utilize, and the actual hardware was the size of a stack of books. While some conspiracies and youtube videos can seem convincing, especially regarding the post-mission interview which if you haven't seen you it seems very fishy, the facts are undeniable. For example, how can one explain the rocks that have been brought back to the moon, rocks that have been sent to and tested by scientists and geologists nationwide, have never been identified as fakes. So many people would have to be lying, on such a grand scale, for this to be the case.

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December 21, 2019, 09:09:05 AM
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"...You've got a moon that's a sphere and the earth is a sphere, approximately.

Or do you think that you can argue against a mathematical proof with insults..."

I've posted reproducible documented empirical evidence the earth's surface doesn't curve, a sphere is both mathematically and physically impossible with a horizon beyond 11.22 miles for an observer 1 foot above sea level.



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   Flat Earth Proven Again - 11.22 Miles and ZERO Curvature [Wide Awake] -- https://youtu.be/6hqzqmY9ny8

^^^ There, you've been provided with documented evidence that the earth's surface doesn't curve. Anybody with a super-zoom camera can reproduce this distance to the horizon test and fail the globe with a wide margin of error.
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"...How about you get some cojones..."
I've proven my point with documented evidence and refuted your copy pasta from the fags at stackexchange that, BTW doesn't actually address empirical observations of the moon's face. Now, I've got the cojones to label you a lackluster cock smoker for not conceding the point and not directly addressing direct observations of the moon's face.

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December 21, 2019, 09:46:44 AM
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@Spendulus, there is no point to debate with Batty.
He'll dumb you down, and win from experience.

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@Spendulus, there is no point to debate with Batty.
He'll dumb you down, and win from experience.

Do not cast pearls before swine?

A crypto forum is the wrong place to argue against clear and simple math, lol.
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"...How about you get some cojones..."
I've proven my point with documented evidence and refuted your copy pasta from the fags....
You are done.
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December 21, 2019, 05:14:24 PM
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I had this feeling for a long time and always wondered why humans never went to moon again..?
A country like India is still not about to land it's Rover but USA landed and brought back their astronauts..?

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