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June 03, 2019, 03:52:11 PM
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I know people in this subection are probably going to be against this sort of rhetoric, though I know that most people here are avid gamblers. Which is fine, though there is a problem that arises when you gamble all the time -- you're not going to be making any money, and all you're doing is losing.

Wouldn't you much rather invest in the bankroll of a gambling website, so you'd be able to make some money off of people like you?

I do understand that there is risk in giving other people access to your BTC (or whatever coin you choose) though that same risk is present when you gamble and put coins on the platform.





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I know people in this subection are probably going to be against this sort of rhetoric, though I know that most people here are avid gamblers. Which is fine, though there is a problem that arises when you gamble all the time -- you're not going to be making any money, and all you're doing is losing.

There are ample examples available where people have made money which is out of their expectation from gambling! Also there are people who are consistently making money from gambling! Probably you have experienced the reverse side of it, but that doesn't mean people are not making money! 

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Wouldn't you much rather invest in the bankroll of a gambling website, so you'd be able to make some money off of people like you?

I do understand that there is risk in giving other people access to your BTC (or whatever coin you choose) though that same risk is present when you gamble and put coins on the platform.

A lot of gamblers are also investors of the gambling websites! I know at least a dozen of them and I am also one of them! It makes complete sense to invest in legal and trusted gambling websites and to make money out of it. However, I seriously didn't digest your statement " so you'd be able to make some money off of people like you?"! It's very derogatory and discriminating in nature! Gambling doesn't always mean negative things! People play to have fun and some adrenaline rush as well, not everyone is aiming to "get rich quick" from gambling!

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June 03, 2019, 04:34:10 PM
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I know people in this subection are probably going to be against this sort of rhetoric, though I know that most people here are avid gamblers. Which is fine, though there is a problem that arises when you gamble all the time -- you're not going to be making any money, and all you're doing is losing.

There are ample examples available where people have made money which is out of their expectation from gambling! Also there are people who are consistently making money from gambling! Probably you have experienced the reverse side of it, but that doesn't mean people are not making money! 

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Wouldn't you much rather invest in the bankroll of a gambling website, so you'd be able to make some money off of people like you?

I do understand that there is risk in giving other people access to your BTC (or whatever coin you choose) though that same risk is present when you gamble and put coins on the platform.

A lot of gamblers are also investors of the gambling websites! I know at least a dozen of them and I am also one of them! It makes complete sense to invest in legal and trusted gambling websites and to make money out of it. However, I seriously didn't digest your statement " so you'd be able to make some money off of people like you?"! It's very derogatory and discriminating in nature! Gambling doesn't always mean negative things! People play to have fun and some adrenaline rush as well, not everyone is aiming to "get rich quick" from gambling!

I mean with that same line of thinking, there are ample amounts of people that win the lottery -- that doesn't mean that winning the lottery is guaranteed. In the long run in any sort of gambling, the house is going to win. The house has an edge (which is different depending on the game and the site) and they're going to beat you.

So why try to beat someone that's going to inevitably beat you when you can just win by investing in them.




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June 03, 2019, 04:40:59 PM
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I agree that only small number of gamblers are actually able to make profits out of gambling but earning money is not the objective of every gambler. Fun element is primary and foremost reason of gambling. So I don't believe investing in bankroll is as enjoyable as placing bets, is it?  Roll Eyes
Moreover, if earning money is actual objective then there are many other options available for investors rather than going for investment in bankrolls. Most of the casinos pay 4-5% return on bankroll at maximum.  Such return is very low in crypto domain when compared to fluctuations in prices.
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June 03, 2019, 04:45:03 PM
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If I wanted to do that I would rather go and try to start my own casino instead.  It doesn't take much starting capital to make your own online casino and it is one of the best business models because you are guaranteed to make a profit.  Nothing like real life casinos that require a lot of money to run.
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If I wanted to do that I would rather go and try to start my own casino instead.  It doesn't take much starting capital to make your own online casino and it is one of the best business models because you are guaranteed to make a profit.  Nothing like real life casinos that require a lot of money to run.

Are you sure about that?  Grin
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For most people playing at casinos, gambling already became a habit because they are used to do it very often. They are used to sit in their comfortable coach and just enjoy playing and try to earn some extra money. Gamblers visit casinos to spend their time playing different games but if you are investing in the bankroll all the fun goes away,you have to find something else to do during the time you were usually gambling and also the profits are not very big.
We are talking about two different things here. Investing and gambling. It's pretty hard to convince an investor to stop investing and start gambling and so it is the other way.
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If I wanted to do that I would rather go and try to start my own casino instead.  It doesn't take much starting capital to make your own online casino and it is one of the best business models because you are guaranteed to make a profit.  Nothing like real life casinos that require a lot of money to run.

Are you sure about that?  Grin

Yes I'm sure, if you want to refute that with your reasons your open to do so.
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If I wanted to do that I would rather go and try to start my own casino instead.  It doesn't take much starting capital to make your own online casino and it is one of the best business models because you are guaranteed to make a profit.  Nothing like real life casinos that require a lot of money to run.

https://www.casino.org/blog/how-much-does-it-cost-to-start-your-own-casino/

So what you're saying is that you have about (and this is a conservative number) $1-2 million to pay for licensing cost, software, attorney fees, international banks, international credit card merchants, compliance and so on and so forth?

There's no way you have that amount.




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June 03, 2019, 05:12:04 PM
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I agree that only small number of gamblers are actually able to make profits out of gambling but earning money is not the objective of every gambler. Fun element is primary and foremost reason of gambling. So I don't believe investing in bankroll is as enjoyable as placing bets, is it?  Roll Eyes
Moreover, if earning money is actual objective then there are many other options available for investors rather than going for investment in bankrolls. Most of the casinos pay 4-5% return on bankroll at maximum.  Such return is very low in crypto domain when compared to fluctuations in prices.
Cases depends on  every interpretations of each gamblers, for those who are just aiming to have some fun investing with house bankroll would not be as entertaining as how they look at it, while for gamers who aiming to take some advantage, playing with casino bankroll will be enough to earned possible
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June 03, 2019, 05:13:50 PM
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If I wanted to do that I would rather go and try to start my own casino instead.  It doesn't take much starting capital to make your own online casino and it is one of the best business models because you are guaranteed to make a profit.  Nothing like real life casinos that require a lot of money to run.

https://www.casino.org/blog/how-much-does-it-cost-to-start-your-own-casino/

So what you're saying is that you have about (and this is a conservative number) $1-2 million to pay for licensing cost, software, attorney fees, international banks, international credit card merchants, compliance and so on and so forth?

There's no way you have that amount.

An online crypto casino costs nowhere near that,  sounds like casinos trying to discourage more people from starting their own casinos, doing anything to lessen the competition.

I'm talking about just opening a crypto only casino, software is basically free, no need for compliance and regulations when you operate in a good country.  I've been around this game for years, I know what these guys have to spend to open these casinos.  Its virtually nothing and they know how to do the work around.
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June 03, 2019, 05:24:02 PM
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Wouldn't you much rather invest in the bankroll of a gambling website, so you'd be able to make some money off of people like you?

Main reason? Profitability.

We all know that investing on Sites bankroll wont really give out big returns on a short period of time and most people doesnt really
prefer on looking at that way and thats the reason why they do gamble instead even knowing the risk of losing money is much more higher.

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If I wanted to do that I would rather go and try to start my own casino instead.  It doesn't take much starting capital to make your own online casino and it is one of the best business models because you are guaranteed to make a profit.  Nothing like real life casinos that require a lot of money to run.

https://www.casino.org/blog/how-much-does-it-cost-to-start-your-own-casino/

So what you're saying is that you have about (and this is a conservative number) $1-2 million to pay for licensing cost, software, attorney fees, international banks, international credit card merchants, compliance and so on and so forth?

There's no way you have that amount.

An online crypto casino costs nowhere near that,  sounds like casinos trying to discourage more people from starting their own casinos, doing anything to lessen the competition.

I'm talking about just opening a crypto only casino, software is basically free, no need for compliance and regulations when you operate in a good country.  I've been around this game for years, I know what these guys have to spend to open these casinos.  Its virtually nothing and they know how to do the work around.

Ok lets make that number half, or even 1/4th of the earlier number. Lets say you're able to find some of the best coders for the cheapest prices, you've good some good cheap lawyers, and so on and so forth.

Even at that, you're sitting in the range of having 250k-500k liquid to set this all up. That's not even talking about the site bankroll and continued marketing.

You're going to have to spend at least 10k a month for marketing, then more for salaries for support staff and such.




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June 03, 2019, 09:04:35 PM
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I know people in this subection are probably going to be against this sort of rhetoric, though I know that most people here are avid gamblers. Which is fine, though there is a problem that arises when you gamble all the time -- you're not going to be making any money, and all you're doing is losing.

Wouldn't you much rather invest in the bankroll of a gambling website, so you'd be able to make some money off of people like you?

I do understand that there is risk in giving other people access to your BTC (or whatever coin you choose) though that same risk is present when you gamble and put coins on the platform.


There is a limited number of casinos which offer investments in their bankroll and there is a reason: You can't prove that you are fair with investors because when you are owner, you know server seeds and can register and win as much as you wish which will automatically leads to loss for investors. I don't say some casinos do it but still this is the reason of why there is a limited number of investments welcome casinos.
Btw on another hand it's not much profitable to invest in casinos because they take additional fee from investors too in order to cover server/suppory and etc fees.

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June 03, 2019, 09:14:50 PM
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I know people in this subection are probably going to be against this sort of rhetoric, though I know that most people here are avid gamblers. Which is fine, though there is a problem that arises when you gamble all the time -- you're not going to be making any money, and all you're doing is losing.

Wouldn't you much rather invest in the bankroll of a gambling website, so you'd be able to make some money off of people like you?

I do understand that there is risk in giving other people access to your BTC (or whatever coin you choose) though that same risk is present when you gamble and put coins on the platform.


There is a limited number of casinos which offer investments in their bankroll and there is a reason: You can't prove that you are fair with investors because when you are owner, you know server seeds and can register and win as much as you wish which will automatically leads to loss for investors. I don't say some casinos do it but still this is the reason of why there is a limited number of investments welcome casinos.
Btw on another hand it's not much profitable to invest in casinos because they take additional fee from investors too in order to cover server/suppory and etc fees.
Possible but wont really be that frequent because gambling site owners will foreseen their business on long term aspect rather than on going or cheating on short time.They know that once
they do hit up the popularity then profitability would be next.It isnt bad to seek out for investors but you would really need some credibility before you would able to attain it.
Investing on gambling sites bankroll does really give small profits.

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June 03, 2019, 09:37:32 PM
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If I wanted to do that I would rather go and try to start my own casino instead.  It doesn't take much starting capital to make your own online casino and it is one of the best business models because you are guaranteed to make a profit.  Nothing like real life casinos that require a lot of money to run.

Are you sure about that?  Grin

Yes I'm sure, if you want to refute that with your reasons your open to do so.
Well, you must be rich on making your own crypto casino and that’s why its easy for you but as far as I know you must have a good capital to become a good crypto casino and not just for the sake of making money. If you invested small, then I doubt people will play with your site. Its better to gamble and have more investment, bankroll is good but playing is to have more fun.

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June 03, 2019, 09:50:49 PM
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Wouldn't you much rather invest in the bankroll of a gambling website, so you'd be able to make some money off of people like you?

The idea of investing in a gambling site's bankroll is really good. Gambling sites obviously will make profits in the long run. I really preferred that as one of a good method to earn BTC back then. Did that in just-dice, Moneypot as an example for years but all I can say is, the rewards are not good for the spent time. The number of users on these sites decreases as time passes by even they start to have a decent number of users on their peak.

Popular and reputable sites don't need to add this feature as it wasn't necessary anymore. Miss the old days where bankroll investment is quite popular.



I do understand that there is risk in giving other people access to your BTC (or whatever coin you choose) though that same risk is present when you gamble and put coins on the platform.

The risk is not the same. We do bet on popular and reputable sites. On the other hand, as I mentioned above, most of these sites don't have a bankroll investment feature.

Don't want to test waters on random sites just to try the bankroll investments.

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June 03, 2019, 11:01:38 PM
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I'm talking about just opening a crypto only casino, software is basically free, no need for compliance and regulations when you operate in a good country.  I've been around this game for years, I know what these guys have to spend to open these casinos.  Its virtually nothing and they know how to do the work around.

i think if you just using the free software it will be risky because you don't know if that software has no bug
based on this article https://www.softgamings.com/blog/online-casino-script/ the minimum total i think it will take around 50k$
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It's still good to remember there's still risk involved in investing in the bankroll of a casino. A whale winning large amounts of money can easily wipe you out if you're leveraged on your investment on a site that has such an option, though you will indeed see slow but steady gains most of the time due to the fact that most games are -EV and house edge is at work on all casinos. I used to invest in Crypto-Games and they produced good gains with how well the site's bankroll was managed, though I'm not sure how they're doing recently and even whether or not the site still allows you to invest into the bankroll.
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June 03, 2019, 11:27:39 PM
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Don't want to test waters on random sites just to try the bankroll investments.
Yeah, don't do that. Invest only to casinos that has built their reputation in the community just like bustadice.

though I'm not sure how they're doing recently and even whether or not the site still allows you to invest into the bankroll.
I think they are still allowing it because it's on their faq.

https://www.crypto-games.net/faq

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June 04, 2019, 12:58:48 AM
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I know people in this subection are probably going to be against this sort of rhetoric, though I know that most people here are avid gamblers. Which is fine, though there is a problem that arises when you gamble all the time -- you're not going to be making any money, and all you're doing is losing.

Wouldn't you much rather invest in the bankroll of a gambling website, so you'd be able to make some money off of people like you?

I do understand that there is risk in giving other people access to your BTC (or whatever coin you choose) though that same risk is present when you gamble and put coins on the platform.

Are there particular casinos you can suggest? A bit embarrassing to admit but I haven't thought of this before.

How does the process go? Do you simply send them money or are there papers you have to collect first for the process?
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June 04, 2019, 01:10:04 AM
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If I wanted to do that I would rather go and try to start my own casino instead.  It doesn't take much starting capital to make your own online casino and it is one of the best business models because you are guaranteed to make a profit.  Nothing like real life casinos that require a lot of money to run.
Yeah you may right that having own casino site is not need big capital but maintaining the site is one hard task that many has failed
Because if this is that easy as what you said then all gambling sites should be successful by now?But it’s not because more than many of them are closing or ending up scamming for the reason of harder for maintaining

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June 04, 2019, 08:33:15 AM
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Gambling has made some people rich and for those unlucky one they have made serious lose and now in debt. The house are still there and that means the house make money than the gamblers. Bankrolling is another opportunity for us to share the profits with the House. It is good you reduce your risk if you know that you cannot face the risk in gambling.
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So why try to beat someone that's going to inevitably beat you when you can just win by investing in them.

If it was that simple, people would stop working and would invest all their money in gambling sites and would live happily ever after. But it is not that simple. Even established gambling sites lose money during some periods of time, let alone newly appeared ones that go out of business one by one.

Also, when you gamble you know that you can lose so you are risking only the money you can afford to lose. But if you think you will surely win by investing in a gambling site, you can lose a really huge amount of money, like that gambler who relies on some "strategy that works".

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So why try to beat someone that's going to inevitably beat you when you can just win by investing in them.
Also, when you gamble you know that you can lose so you are risking only the money you can afford to lose. But if you think you will surely win by investing in a gambling site, you can lose a really huge amount of money, like that gambler who relies on some "strategy that works".
Investing in the gambling industry for me it seems like you are also gambling your money. They are both risks even you are investing on site that you don't know you will lose in the future or live happily ever after. ^ And you are right if investing in gambling site was so profitable maybe crypto enthusiast will stop trading cryptocurrency just only investing in a gambling site, but the fact is a big no.
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That's what I really wanted to do before but I did not. Maybe because, you're just gonna invest a not so big amount and I know the return is small as well. I mean you can't turn that small amount into big in a short period of time compared if you get lucky in playing. Plus it's not a guaranteed profit, that if you invested, you're just waiting for ROI daily, weekly, monthly, yearly. So i'd rather take control on my coins.
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June 04, 2019, 01:07:53 PM
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A big whale can still come through and completely wipe a casino out.  Most of these games are only 1 percent odds in favor in the house and with a few big bets they can go completely broke on their bankroll.  The safest way to make a return on your crypto is to just hold it.
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June 04, 2019, 01:20:19 PM
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Investing in the gambling website will be a good option, but not all gambling site will give a good return for us. We need to select the recommended gambling site so we can make a profit with them. But that doesn't always work since the house will get a lose too like the gambler, but they have a bigger chance to make a profit in the long term. So if we want to make a profit even for a small profit, we can try to invest with them.

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June 04, 2019, 01:25:29 PM
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A big whale can still come through and completely wipe a casino out.  Most of these games are only 1 percent odds in favor in the house and with a few big bets they can go completely broke on their bankroll.  The safest way to make a return on your crypto is to just hold it.
I personally agree to investing in a gambling home bankroll, it must be profitable than having to play gambling and lose faster better invest in a bankroll. Indeed its very risky but gambling has also been included in the risk, not our characteristic for hodl in gambling.

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Don't want to test waters on random sites just to try the bankroll investments.
Yeah, don't do that. Invest only to casinos that has built their reputation in the community just like bustadice.

though I'm not sure how they're doing recently and even whether or not the site still allows you to invest into the bankroll.
I think they are still allowing it because it's on their faq.

https://www.crypto-games.net/faq

Wouldn't invest in Bustadice until I seem some bankroll management like CryptoGames has. Any new site is going to have some massive wins and losses for those that invest in the bankroll because they can't manage their bankroll correctly YET.

Look at the growth of anyone that invests in CryptoGames. It's pretty steady, because a good gambling site makes steady money.




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June 04, 2019, 03:26:09 PM
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I haven't considered this before. How much would be the minimum amount I can invest in a casino like CryptoGames?

A big whale can still come through and completely wipe a casino out.  Most of these games are only 1 percent odds in favor in the house and with a few big bets they can go completely broke on their bankroll.  The safest way to make a return on your crypto is to just hold it.

Hodling is good but can't blame people for taking a few risks here and there. If the investment pays off then a part of that can be added back to the hodl savings.
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June 04, 2019, 03:37:14 PM
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I haven't considered this before. How much would be the minimum amount I can invest in a casino like CryptoGames?

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Check it here for a well-detailed explanation of how investment there works. Under ""How do investments work?".

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June 04, 2019, 04:06:26 PM
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If people had interesting something then the interest will be changed very easily the gambling is also one of the attraction and the interest by everyone so we cannot change their Minds it into different dimension very easily that's why I cannot choose any other field.

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most "trusted" dices pages are total overloaded at the bankroll .
So i have to invest huge amount to get at least a 0.01% share XD
I get currently much more from Lending on bitfinex.


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A big whale can still come through and completely wipe a casino out.  Most of these games are only 1 percent odds in favor in the house and with a few big bets they can go completely broke on their bankroll.  The safest way to make a return on your crypto is to just hold it.
I personally agree to investing in a gambling home bankroll, it must be profitable than having to play gambling and lose faster better invest in a bankroll. Indeed its very risky but gambling has also been included in the risk, not our characteristic for hodl in gambling.

It is better to invest in a trusted gambling site especially if you know that they are really distributing the profits fairly.
Playing alone will really make you broke at the end of the day.
With the bankroll investment, you have high percentage of getting your money back with profits
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Yes investing in bankroll is a far better option from gambling but it also has risks. just like when people invested in MoneyPot site there was like more than 5000 BTC invested in money pot and today there is barely 1 BTC bankroll. I don't know what happens on these years maybe people took their money or the casino was hit by a whale. anyway, you can win as long as people are losing in the casino.
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Gamblers want fast profit and some fun. To invest in bankroll won't work for them, as it will return small sums of profit only and there isn't any action. They can double their money in few hours playing the games, but it will take years to double their money through bankroll investment.
In addition, the rich gamblers, who really move the industry don't need more money, they have their profitable investments already, their sources of income.

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June 04, 2019, 10:10:43 PM
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Gamblers want fast profit and some fun. To invest in bankroll won't work for them, as it will return small sums of profit only and there isn't any action. They can double their money in few hours playing the games, but it will take years to double their money through bankroll investment.
In addition, the rich gamblers, who really move the industry don't need more money, they have their profitable investments already, their sources of income.
not all mate . some gamblers are just chill and they dont rush for the profit but they are actually aiming for a long term play because they want to earn big time  . earning big  is not achieavable overnight  but it takes a month or even years   . gambling is also risky but investing is less risky so aside from playing the actual gambling game , why  cant we just invest also ?  This doubles our potential profit and also minimize our losses   
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There many different gambler how gambling treats, as simple as explanation all gamblers used ng legit website to play gamble is bankroll investors and have own motivation about why olay gambling, some othe people play for money some other play for just having fun. So meaning not all gamblers are lucky to got win.
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Gamblers want fast profit and some fun. To invest in bankroll won't work for them, as it will return small sums of profit only and there isn't any action. They can double their money in few hours playing the games, but it will take years to double their money through bankroll investment.
In addition, the rich gamblers, who really move the industry don't need more money, they have their profitable investments already, their sources of income.
not all mate . some gamblers are just chill and they dont rush for the profit but they are actually aiming for a long term play because they want to earn big time  . earning big  is not achieavable overnight  but it takes a month or even years   . gambling is also risky but investing is less risky so aside from playing the actual gambling game , why  cant we just invest also ?  This doubles our potential profit and also minimize our losses   
This decision is good if you have a lot of money while you gamble at the site at the same time you also investing the bankroll. But investing in bankroll at least you know already the gambling site how reputable it is because that was most the problem maybe they will shut down and run all investments. These two options if you are very lucky then you have a huge profit to get not only in gambling and also in investing which gives you multi-benefits.

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Everyone who is patient enough should invest in a reputable casino bankroll as it will grow your money overtime.
You also need to have a good amount of money to invest in a casino bankroll,you need to have at least 0.5 bitcoin to invest because any other value lower than this won't do much to your bankroll.

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June 05, 2019, 08:23:14 AM
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Everyone who is patient enough should invest in a reputable casino bankroll as it will grow your money overtime.
You also need to have a good amount of money to invest in a casino bankroll,you need to have at least 0.5 bitcoin to invest because any other value lower than this won't do much to your bankroll.

And here's the catch. While gambling moderately, you can spend months wagering 0.5 BTC. You will probably lose around 0.01 along the way, but you'll be playing your favorite games relaxing from hard work or stressful life or whatever. But if you just invest 0.5 BTC in a casino bankroll, how that can make you relax? Yes you would make around 0.025 BTC in 12 months in the best case scenario, but can that amount earned in a year make you happy? Is that a good substitution for hours of and hours of playing during that year when you need it?

Notice that I'm not talking about making money with gambling, but rather about having fun with it. If someone thinks of making money only, then investing in a reputable casino would probably be the best choice for them.

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How profitable is the bankroll thing? And are the profits regular? I have heard alot about it on this section but not sure how to go about it.
I guess investment safety shouldn't be a problem as we have lots of reputable casinos here.
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How profitable is the bankroll thing? And are the profits regular? I have heard alot about it on this section but not sure how to go about it.
I guess investment safety shouldn't be a problem as we have lots of reputable casinos here.
The profits won't be regular. In fact, there's no guarantee of profit at all. It's almost as risky as gambling. The difference is that as bankroll investor the house edge is working in your favor.

Here are some example of bankroll investment results that some members have shared in the past

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How profitable is the bankroll thing? And are the profits regular? I have heard alot about it on this section but not sure how to go about it.
I guess investment safety shouldn't be a problem as we have lots of reputable casinos here.
The profits won't be regular. In fact, there's no guarantee of profit at all. It's almost as risky as gambling. The difference is that as bankroll investor the house edge is working in your favor.

Highlighted word- This is the main difference between as a player and an investor on the house itself since you know that House do always win which would
give out the edge if you are together with the house but as been said by most people here that profits aren't really that big that's why some wont consider on investing.

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June 05, 2019, 10:01:57 PM
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How profitable is the bankroll thing? And are the profits regular? I have heard alot about it on this section but not sure how to go about it.
I guess investment safety shouldn't be a problem as we have lots of reputable casinos here.
The profits won't be regular. In fact, there's no guarantee of profit at all. It's almost as risky as gambling. The difference is that as bankroll investor the house edge is working in your favor.

Here are some example of bankroll investment results that some members have shared in the past


According to the data most casinos are offering a steady profit that varies between 20 and 60 percent a year. This is extremely good compared to the average bank rates and if we add that bitcoin gains value over time you're getting at least additional 20% on top of your crypto investment.

For an average joe that gets some profit from his signature campaign and can invest it in the same casino that pays him without having to move the funds this is a great opportunity as long as he trusts the casino not to scam him.
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June 05, 2019, 10:35:14 PM
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I know people in this subection are probably going to be against this sort of rhetoric, though I know that most people here are avid gamblers. Which is fine, though there is a problem that arises when you gamble all the time -- you're not going to be making any money, and all you're doing is losing.

Wouldn't you much rather invest in the bankroll of a gambling website, so you'd be able to make some money off of people like you?

I do understand that there is risk in giving other people access to your BTC (or whatever coin you choose) though that same risk is present when you gamble and put coins on the platform.



Gambling is risky and investing in a bankroll is a much riskier. Now having other people to access your wallet is not a good idea but if you want to take the risk, then you might hit a jackpot like when you gamble. Anyways, I found your idea a must try one.

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But if you just invest 0.5 BTC in a casino bankroll, how that can make you relax?

Some people love to count their money :p and consider all the different factors behind making more of it and where to best place the cash roll for best returns and so on.   It is a different kind of game, not a common one I guess but I'm certain some people will derive some pleasure for the idea of gaining interest or returns on their held BTC especially in an environment where they believe crypto overall is gaining then its a double win.


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June 05, 2019, 11:16:07 PM
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I know people in this subection are probably going to be against this sort of rhetoric, though I know that most people here are avid gamblers. Which is fine, though there is a problem that arises when you gamble all the time -- you're not going to be making any money, and all you're doing is losing.

Wouldn't you much rather invest in the bankroll of a gambling website, so you'd be able to make some money off of people like you?

I do understand that there is risk in giving other people access to your BTC (or whatever coin you choose) though that same risk is present when you gamble and put coins on the platform.


There is a limited number of casinos which offer investments in their bankroll and there is a reason: You can't prove that you are fair with investors because when you are owner, you know server seeds and can register and win as much as you wish which will automatically leads to loss for investors. I don't say some casinos do it but still this is the reason of why there is a limited number of investments welcome casinos.
Btw on another hand it's not much profitable to invest in casinos because they take additional fee from investors too in order to cover server/suppory and etc fees.
Possible but wont really be that frequent because gambling site owners will foreseen their business on long term aspect rather than on going or cheating on short time.They know that once
they do hit up the popularity then profitability would be next.It isnt bad to seek out for investors but you would really need some credibility before you would able to attain it.
Investing on gambling sites bankroll does really give small profits.
I don't claim on any website that they do this, no but I know this was stated as a major reason of by some casinos why don't they accept investment in bankroll. On another hand that may happen because casino owner can collect great profit. Imagine you are in 100%, then 90%, then 110, then 85, then 105. During this movements if casino cheated, they did huge profit.
On another hand investment in gambling websites bankroll isn't that great profit, it was usually compared to cloud mining.

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June 06, 2019, 03:13:21 AM
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Investing in casino's bankroll is maybe the safest way to earn money in gambling, you go with the side of the operators, thus, you earn the advantage.
However, profit wise, this is not favorable for small investors and most gamblers does not have big money to invest as they are just here hoping they'll be lucky to win a big amount.

Maybe before investing in casino's bankroll is profitable due to the small competition but now, bigger sites who are most profitable, does not have the feature to allow investors to put in their casino. In short, they want to maximize their income..

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They said Investing in casino bankroll is maybe the safest way to earn money when it comes to gambling. but I did not try to invest in bankroll but, I want to try it someday I think.

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I know people in this subection are probably going to be against this sort of rhetoric, though I know that most people here are avid gamblers. Which is fine, though there is a problem that arises when you gamble all the time -- you're not going to be making any money, and all you're doing is losing.

Wouldn't you much rather invest in the bankroll of a gambling website, so you'd be able to make some money off of people like you?

I do understand that there is risk in giving other people access to your BTC (or whatever coin you choose) though that same risk is present when you gamble and put coins on the platform.

Are there particular casinos you can suggest? A bit embarrassing to admit but I haven't thought of this before.

How does the process go? Do you simply send them money or are there papers you have to collect first for the process?
When it comes to gambling, you have to be ready for a win and loss so I think not all the gamblers loose money and many out there make some great money as well as fame and name. You might know about Gonzalo Garcia who was famous for beating the casino and made great name in the history of gambling. He lost many games of course but it is this compounding that makes you the perfect gambler.
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They said Investing in casino bankroll is maybe the safest way to earn money when it comes to gambling. but I did not try to invest in bankroll but, I want to try it someday I think.
If you trust the website where you invest in and dont aim for a short time span it will gain interest. Take a look at the time they take for investment redraws just you dont run into unexpected delays.

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They said Investing in casino bankroll is maybe the safest way to earn money when it comes to gambling. but I did not try to invest in bankroll but, I want to try it someday I think.
If you trust the website where you invest in and dont aim for a short time span it will gain interest. Take a look at the time they take for investment redraws just you dont run into unexpected delays.
Yeah . investing basically works longer than compare to trade and gambling but its more safer as long as the website is also safe or has a good security so that it cant be hacked easily  . investing in a casino is a good addition on investing on cryptos but i think investing in cryptos is more profitable because of the volatility but lets not forget that primary use of gambling sites which is to play gambling .
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They said Investing in casino bankroll is maybe the safest way to earn money when it comes to gambling. but I did not try to invest in bankroll but, I want to try it someday I think.
If you trust the website where you invest in and dont aim for a short time span it will gain interest. Take a look at the time they take for investment redraws just you dont run into unexpected delays.
Yeah . investing basically works longer than compare to trade and gambling but its more safer as long as the website is also safe or has a good security so that it cant be hacked easily  . investing in a casino is a good addition on investing on cryptos but i think investing in cryptos is more profitable because of the volatility but lets not forget that primary use of gambling sites which is to play gambling .

First is that where you are investing is that gambling site genuine and have full security as their may be chances that hacker hack the loophole and then bets high and wins and run away. This way also it may cause lose to site and who even bankrolled in that site will be having loss. but comparing to gambling in casino investing is bets option and less risky.
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Everyone who is patient enough should invest in a reputable casino bankroll as it will grow your money overtime.
You also need to have a good amount of money to invest in a casino bankroll,you need to have at least 0.5 bitcoin to invest because any other value lower than this won't do much to your bankroll.
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They said Investing in casino bankroll is maybe the safest way to earn money when it comes to gambling. but I did not try to invest in bankroll but, I want to try it someday I think.
If you trust the website where you invest in and dont aim for a short time span it will gain interest. Take a look at the time they take for investment redraws just you dont run into unexpected delays.
Yeah . investing basically works longer than compare to trade and gambling but its more safer as long as the website is also safe or has a good security so that it cant be hacked easily  . investing in a casino is a good addition on investing on cryptos but i think investing in cryptos is more profitable because of the volatility but lets not forget that primary use of gambling sites which is to play gambling .
I agree on you.Investing in casino bankroll is still profitable as long as you do invest in a proven and trusted website.It's still safer than gambling in casinos wherein you only have rare moments to win than losing in gambling.And yes you're right,i also believe trading and investing in crypto is even more profitable than investing in gambling sites.

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Cryptogames offering investing at their "Bankroll", Honestly i was really interested with investing of the "Bankroll" at gambling sites. I reading their term & condition about the investment of bankroll, still can't understand about that. For right now i just found 1 site for investing at the Bankroll, I think this can be other option for the player who don't wants to a gamble.

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Cryptogames offering investing at their "Bankroll", Honestly i was really interested with investing of the "Bankroll" at gambling sites. I reading their term & condition about the investment of bankroll, still can't understand about that. For right now i just found 1 site for investing at the Bankroll, I think this can be other option for the player who don't wants to a gamble.
If you have enough money on your savings and not moving to earn, maybe it's time to grab any opportunities like that. But we have to be careful as it was still part of gambling strategies. Although bank roll system was the concern here, it doesn't give the assurance to earn more profit as other people expects. However, as bankroll run smoothly with strong funded betting games platform I think the potential profit is having a good future.
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June 08, 2019, 02:11:04 PM
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I haven't considered this before. How much would be the minimum amount I can invest in a casino like CryptoGames?

As of the FAQ's...

The minimum investment amounts are:
0.01 Bitcoin
0.25 Ether
0.5 Dash
1 Litecoin
1 Monero
0.1 Bitcoin Cash
20,000 Dogecoin
50 Peercoin
25 Stratis
15 NeoGas
5 Ether Classic


Check it here for a well-detailed explanation of how investment there works. Under ""How do investments work?".

https://www.crypto-games.net/faq

Thanks for providing this, pretty helpful.

I'd say that for people that are going to gamble, at least in first world countries, they're most likely going to be gambling this amount anyway. So why not just put the money to work at the casino, instead of working for the casino and losing your money.

Just remember that there still is risk with depositing your BTC somewhere else, not your keys not your coins. But that is still the same as when you're gambling anyway. So it'sa not like you're taking additional risk.




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June 09, 2019, 11:35:10 AM
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How profitable is the bankroll thing? And are the profits regular? I have heard alot about it on this section but not sure how to go about it.
I guess investment safety shouldn't be a problem as we have lots of reputable casinos here.
The profits won't be regular. In fact, there's no guarantee of profit at all. It's almost as risky as gambling. The difference is that as bankroll investor the house edge is working in your favor.

Highlighted word- This is the main difference between as a player and an investor on the house itself since you know that House do always win which would
give out the edge if you are together with the house but as been said by most people here that profits aren't really that big that's why some wont consider on investing.

Not only the profits are not that big, but you can lose also when investing in a gambling site. Read the two sentences by dbshck right before the text you highlighted. House wins only in those cases when the site has a very large turnover. I can be wrong, but I think that if you are the owner of a gambling site and you have less than 50 players online constantly, you will hardly be in profit, and thus people who invested in your site won't in profit either. And having enough players on your site so that it was profitable is not something that is easy to achieve.

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June 11, 2019, 05:49:02 AM
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I haven't considered this before. How much would be the minimum amount I can invest in a casino like CryptoGames?

As of the FAQ's...

The minimum investment amounts are:
0.01 Bitcoin
0.25 Ether
0.5 Dash
1 Litecoin
1 Monero
0.1 Bitcoin Cash
20,000 Dogecoin
50 Peercoin
25 Stratis
15 NeoGas
5 Ether Classic


Check it here for a well-detailed explanation of how investment there works. Under ""How do investments work?".

https://www.crypto-games.net/faq

Thanks for providing this, pretty helpful.

I'd say that for people that are going to gamble, at least in first world countries, they're most likely going to be gambling this amount anyway. So why not just put the money to work at the casino, instead of working for the casino and losing your money.

Just remember that there still is risk with depositing your BTC somewhere else, not your keys not your coins. But that is still the same as when you're gambling anyway. So it'sa not like you're taking additional risk.
I personally don’t support having anything to do with gambling, either playing or investing in bankrolls, because they are all very risk and not safe. There are too many place to invest with confidence just that the interest rate might not be as high as gambling.

I expect the interest in gambling to be the highest ever because there is more money in gambling than it is in other sectors. But if one must choose from either investing or playing, I think investing is still safer than playing, where one is not even sure of what would happen to the money in a very short time, and gambling is not something that can be learnt. So it’s better to invest.

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June 11, 2019, 10:21:46 AM
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I know people in this subection are probably going to be against this sort of rhetoric, though I know that most people here are avid gamblers. Which is fine, though there is a problem that arises when you gamble all the time -- you're not going to be making any money, and all you're doing is losing.

Wouldn't you much rather invest in the bankroll of a gambling website, so you'd be able to make some money off of people like you?

I do understand that there is risk in giving other people access to your BTC (or whatever coin you choose) though that same risk is present when you gamble and put coins on the platform.



Gambling is risky and investing in a bankroll is a much riskier. Now having other people to access your wallet is not a good idea but if you want to take the risk, then you might hit a jackpot like when you gamble. Anyways, I found your idea a must try one.

Yes, but investing in a bankroll can give additional profit for us because the house will win everything. But yes, we need to wait for a while before we can see our investment will increase. People, now it seems like to playing gambling than to invest in the gambling website because the return will need a long time and there is no guarantee to see the website will still online in a long time.

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June 11, 2019, 12:38:07 PM
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I know people in this subection are probably going to be against this sort of rhetoric, though I know that most people here are avid gamblers. Which is fine, though there is a problem that arises when you gamble all the time -- you're not going to be making any money, and all you're doing is losing.

Wouldn't you much rather invest in the bankroll of a gambling website, so you'd be able to make some money off of people like you?

I do understand that there is risk in giving other people access to your BTC (or whatever coin you choose) though that same risk is present when you gamble and put coins on the platform.



Investing in online casino bankrolls will indeed give us better results in the long term than we as active gamblers. But, such investments will require a significant amount of capital and we must be absolutely sure that casino owners will be in good faith forever.

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June 12, 2019, 02:46:24 PM
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Gambling is risky and investing in a bankroll is a much riskier. Now having other people to access your wallet is not a good idea but if you want to take the risk, then you might hit a jackpot like when you gamble. Anyways, I found your idea a must try one.
I disagree that investing in a bankroll has more risks than gambling. Investors are recommended to invest big just to receive a better profit share and there's a couple of risks to it like the possibility of the casino stealing the investors funds but that's unlikely on trusted casinos. When you invest on a bankroll you're not giving access to your wallet from my experience it's more similar to lending without the exact dates and interest.


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June 12, 2019, 02:52:22 PM
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Gambling is risky and investing in a bankroll is a much riskier. Now having other people to access your wallet is not a good idea but if you want to take the risk, then you might hit a jackpot like when you gamble. Anyways, I found your idea a must try one.
I disagree that investing in a bankroll has more risks than gambling. Investors are recommended to invest big just to receive a better profit share and there's a couple of risks to it like the possibility of the casino stealing the investors funds but that's unlikely on trusted casinos. When you invest on a bankroll you're not giving access to your wallet from my experience it's more similar to lending without the exact dates and interest.


Investing on bakroll is like having a share from profits based on how much we invested,right?

Gambling is one of the most profitable investment so if anyone invest on it have chances of losing their capital unless the site steal their money.
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Cryptogames offering investing at their "Bankroll", Honestly i was really interested with investing of the "Bankroll" at gambling sites. I reading their term & condition about the investment of bankroll, still can't understand about that. For right now i just found 1 site for investing at the Bankroll, I think this can be other option for the player who don't wants to a gamble.
If you have enough money on your savings and not moving to earn, maybe it's time to grab any opportunities like that. But we have to be careful as it was still part of gambling strategies. Although bank roll system was the concern here, it doesn't give the assurance to earn more profit as other people expects. However, as bankroll run smoothly with strong funded betting games platform I think the potential profit is having a good future.
You can see some statistics on dicesite.com, and you can see which sites offer bankroll investments, if you visit that site often, not all gambling sites get profit, some even get minus. so investing in a bankroll is not always profitable. but you're right when the gambling site has a big or strong bankroll, then the possibility of profit will still be there, it's worth to try anyway
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Investing access were available with very few number of gambling websites. What users get as a return out of the investment on gambling websites were very low. Some new tokens that were developed for the usage on gambling sites have a varied plan of providing with bigger earning access with based on the increased staking of the respective token.
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I haven't considered this before. How much would be the minimum amount I can invest in a casino like CryptoGames?

As of the FAQ's...

The minimum investment amounts are:
0.01 Bitcoin
0.25 Ether
0.5 Dash
1 Litecoin
1 Monero
0.1 Bitcoin Cash
20,000 Dogecoin
50 Peercoin
25 Stratis
15 NeoGas
5 Ether Classic


Check it here for a well-detailed explanation of how investment there works. Under ""How do investments work?".

https://www.crypto-games.net/faq

Thanks for providing this, pretty helpful.

I'd say that for people that are going to gamble, at least in first world countries, they're most likely going to be gambling this amount anyway. So why not just put the money to work at the casino, instead of working for the casino and losing your money.

Just remember that there still is risk with depositing your BTC somewhere else, not your keys not your coins. But that is still the same as when you're gambling anyway. So it'sa not like you're taking additional risk.
I personally don’t support having anything to do with gambling, either playing or investing in bankrolls, because they are all very risk and not safe. There are too many place to invest with confidence just that the interest rate might not be as high as gambling.

I expect the interest in gambling to be the highest ever because there is more money in gambling than it is in other sectors. But if one must choose from either investing or playing, I think investing is still safer than playing, where one is not even sure of what would happen to the money in a very short time, and gambling is not something that can be learnt. So it’s better to invest.


It is funny how you promote gambling on your signature while saying this lol.

Well, I think investing in gambling like poker or sports betting is worth trying. My only worry is the return of investment and whether the profit is sustainable/guaranteed. I have heard alot about this kind of investment but haven't really studied how it works.
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Of course that's true and everybody knows that, it is so damn true that the real casinos for example in the Las Vegas they also have card system so they give your card when you enter the Casino and then their track down your whole activities for example what brings you buy and what games do you play and then the use these informations whenever you go to casinos and with the modern technology like artificial intelligence they can get even more specifically on how to extract money from you. Investing in bankroll is much better than this
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Investing in the gambling company might sound good but if each one of us adds capital to the bankroll who remains playing from these casinos?

And just how attractive are these pay rates or the ROI from this sort of investment as compared to you doing the gambling because the company can't pay if no one plays.
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Of course that's true and everybody knows that, it is so damn true that the real casinos for example in the Las Vegas they also have card system so they give your card when you enter the Casino and then their track down your whole activities for example what brings you buy and what games do you play and then the use these informations whenever you go to casinos and with the modern technology like artificial intelligence they can get even more specifically on how to extract money from you. Investing in bankroll is much better than this
In any angle if we do try to look at,investing is much more better than gambling itself.We know the profits isnt really that attractable but when it comes to risk
then its lesser but also into its profits but if you do care about security then this one might be a good option for you but come to think that even these investments
do potentially have the risk of losing money because not all the times houses are profiting.

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And just how attractive are these pay rates or the ROI from this sort of investment as compared to you doing the gambling because the company can't pay if no one plays.

Its very much two different things, I dont think the return on bankroll is guaranteed.   It is possible for the gambling operation to not make a profit, unusual good luck on the part of the punters can occur and literally more is being paid out then comes in.   Thats the risk and the reason why the casino wants people to take part in the bankroll to enable the float of casino games.

Even in profit the returns for backing the house are far less then the potential wins available, a simple coin flip can yield easy money very fast and with instant ability to spend it.   The bankroll requires a boring amount of time waiting for results to occur, the potential for loss is far less with the bankroll.   So the two elements are not in competition, a gambler with good money management can easily justify doing both so I see no problem in competing overlapping markets

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June 13, 2019, 10:56:42 AM
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I haven't considered this before. How much would be the minimum amount I can invest in a casino like CryptoGames?

As of the FAQ's...

The minimum investment amounts are:
0.01 Bitcoin
0.25 Ether
0.5 Dash
1 Litecoin
1 Monero
0.1 Bitcoin Cash
20,000 Dogecoin
50 Peercoin
25 Stratis
15 NeoGas
5 Ether Classic


Check it here for a well-detailed explanation of how investment there works. Under ""How do investments work?".

https://www.crypto-games.net/faq

Thanks for providing this, pretty helpful.

I'd say that for people that are going to gamble, at least in first world countries, they're most likely going to be gambling this amount anyway. So why not just put the money to work at the casino, instead of working for the casino and losing your money.

Just remember that there still is risk with depositing your BTC somewhere else, not your keys not your coins. But that is still the same as when you're gambling anyway. So it'sa not like you're taking additional risk.
I personally don’t support having anything to do with gambling, either playing or investing in bankrolls, because they are all very risk and not safe. There are too many place to invest with confidence just that the interest rate might not be as high as gambling.

I expect the interest in gambling to be the highest ever because there is more money in gambling than it is in other sectors. But if one must choose from either investing or playing, I think investing is still safer than playing, where one is not even sure of what would happen to the money in a very short time, and gambling is not something that can be learnt. So it’s better to invest.
I think the summary of gambling investment is encapsulated in just a sentence. Flee away from anything that links with gambling, I always share with friends on the dangers of gambling. In trying to accelerate our wealth base, we should be careful the places we put in our money and gambling definitely shouldn’t be considered as one.

I play games for fun with no intention of making money but investing in bankrolls or playing recklessly with my hard earned money on a casino site is something I have never and will never do, I think that money is rather spent in a an orphanage home than in making an unknown casino owner  richer than he already is.
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June 13, 2019, 11:11:28 AM
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Investing in the bankroll is pointless, the amount you will get back you are better putting the money into almost anything else (IE Masternodes,, or even Yobits invester thing. If you look at this one site, https://crashdice.com/stats, you can see they are down almost 1million USD. So investing in that bankroll is pointless
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June 13, 2019, 12:12:56 PM
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I know people in this subection are probably going to be against this sort of rhetoric, though I know that most people here are avid gamblers. Which is fine, though there is a problem that arises when you gamble all the time -- you're not going to be making any money, and all you're doing is losing.

Wouldn't you much rather invest in the bankroll of a gambling website, so you'd be able to make some money off of people like you?

I do understand that there is risk in giving other people access to your BTC (or whatever coin you choose) though that same risk is present when you gamble and put coins on the platform.


Well in that case some people may preferred gambling although investing is good but some people wants more be entertained in gambling since it can make people emotional it will be happy or it will going to be sad when they but the thing is atleast they want to gamble to have fun while investing is risky like gambling but not that to worky, I mean you can enjoy it every single. That was only my opinion.
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June 13, 2019, 02:04:41 PM
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Investing access were available with very few number of gambling websites. What users get as a return out of the investment on gambling websites were very low. Some new tokens that were developed for the usage on gambling sites have a varied plan of providing with bigger earning access with based on the increased staking of the respective token.
It's ll about passive income, if you are willing to take the risk and wait for much longer time period chances to get something out from the
casino site is always possible, not that much but if you wanted to lessen the risk and avoid big loses you can try investing with the house
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June 13, 2019, 02:23:29 PM
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Investing in the bankroll is pointless, the amount you will get back you are better putting the money into almost anything else (IE Masternodes,, or even Yobits invester thing. If you look at this one site, https://crashdice.com/stats, you can see they are down almost 1million USD. So investing in that bankroll is pointless
Its more like traditional investment even if the idea related to a crypto site.

But there are lot of opportunities to make more money with the same capital but there are different kind of risks as well.

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June 13, 2019, 08:32:02 PM
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I haven't considered this before. How much would be the minimum amount I can invest in a casino like CryptoGames?

As of the FAQ's...

The minimum investment amounts are:
0.01 Bitcoin
0.25 Ether
0.5 Dash
1 Litecoin
1 Monero
0.1 Bitcoin Cash
20,000 Dogecoin
50 Peercoin
25 Stratis
15 NeoGas
5 Ether Classic


Check it here for a well-detailed explanation of how investment there works. Under ""How do investments work?".

https://www.crypto-games.net/faq

Thanks for providing this, pretty helpful.

I'd say that for people that are going to gamble, at least in first world countries, they're most likely going to be gambling this amount anyway. So why not just put the money to work at the casino, instead of working for the casino and losing your money.

Just remember that there still is risk with depositing your BTC somewhere else, not your keys not your coins. But that is still the same as when you're gambling anyway. So it'sa not like you're taking additional risk.
I personally don’t support having anything to do with gambling, either playing or investing in bankrolls, because they are all very risk and not safe. There are too many place to invest with confidence just that the interest rate might not be as high as gambling.

I expect the interest in gambling to be the highest ever because there is more money in gambling than it is in other sectors. But if one must choose from either investing or playing, I think investing is still safer than playing, where one is not even sure of what would happen to the money in a very short time, and gambling is not something that can be learnt. So it’s better to invest.
Investing is undoubtedly has a lower return on the investment compared to risky ways of making money like gambling. Surely, gambling can be profitable way to double even triple the initial bankroll but the end will be bloody as usual. Safe play is not "safe" option in gambling in my opinion, investing can be the safest option for getting compound interest. Either playing higher odd games or investing in the reliable companies has its risks, risk management is the key to both.

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June 14, 2019, 10:43:30 AM
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I know people in this subection are probably going to be against this sort of rhetoric, though I know that most people here are avid gamblers. Which is fine, though there is a problem that arises when you gamble all the time -- you're not going to be making any money, and all you're doing is losing.

Wouldn't you much rather invest in the bankroll of a gambling website, so you'd be able to make some money off of people like you?

I do understand that there is risk in giving other people access to your BTC (or whatever coin you choose) though that same risk is present when you gamble and put coins on the platform.


Okay here is the reason that some people are not going to consider bank roll. You invest in bank roll and you make a percentage based on how much you invested. Most of the people you see gamble with just little money and they keep trying their luck to win. If they are going to need to invest in bank roll that means that they are going to need a bigger amount to be able to make big profit and they are not even sure to whether the bank roll they are investing is legit. But whatever… it's all about risk.

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I've been investing in bankrolls of a few casinos for 3 years already, and I never regretted it - though there were some moments when my investment dropped by a lot  (while still being profitable), in the long run it showed very decent returns, I believe it's one of the safest ways to invest your crypto, much safer than ICO's or other security offerings, loaning, investing in crypto business, and not to mention hyips and other blatant scams.

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I know people in this subection are probably going to be against this sort of rhetoric, though I know that most people here are avid gamblers. Which is fine, though there is a problem that arises when you gamble all the time -- you're not going to be making any money, and all you're doing is losing.

Wouldn't you much rather invest in the bankroll of a gambling website, so you'd be able to make some money off of people like you?

I do understand that there is risk in giving other people access to your BTC (or whatever coin you choose) though that same risk is present when you gamble and put coins on the platform.


Well in that case some people may preferred gambling although investing is good but some people wants more be entertained in gambling since it can make people emotional it will be happy or it will going to be sad when they but the thing is atleast they want to gamble to have fun while investing is risky like gambling but not that to worky, I mean you can enjoy it every single. That was only my opinion.
I am agree with you, it is much better to gamble than to invest your money in banks as holding your money in banks it like making it get rusted, but when you use it for gambling you will be able to obtain profit, so better use gambling it is now a day on trend at the same time it gives you an opportunity to earn money with fun and enjoyment.
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June 15, 2019, 07:17:04 AM
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I've been investing in bankrolls of a few casinos for 3 years already, and I never regretted it - though there were some moments when my investment dropped by a lot  (while still being profitable), in the long run it showed very decent returns, I believe it's one of the safest ways to invest your crypto, much safer than ICO's or other security offerings, loaning, investing in crypto business, and not to mention hyips and other blatant scams.

I, too, think that investing in the bankroll of a reputable casino is one of the safest bets regarding investment. I agree with you in that regard, but I disagree with OP and with the title of this thread. To me it sounds like "Instead of paying for watching movies in theaters invest in a film distribution company". I mean gambling is not an investment, it's entertainment. If you want to make money with gambling you are wrong from the very beginning because you should never see gambling as such a way, and then indeed it is much better to invest in the bankroll. But if gambling for you is a way of having fun, you can't replace it with another activity that, although more profitable, but not funny and entertaining. We humans are built that way - we can't spend all our time making money, we must relax occasionally. And for some of us this relaxation is gambling.

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June 15, 2019, 07:55:47 AM
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Of course, there are a lot of gamblers that also investors, it's up to your budget if you can afford to invest in bankroll or just you are only a gambler. Nevertheless, it is a safe way to invest in reputed bankroll in a gambling site and I think this forum who accepted ads of gambling were helping you to find a reputable gambling site, since gambling industry that related crypto was recently growing like a bunch of mushrooms.









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I've been investing in bankrolls of a few casinos for 3 years already, and I never regretted it - though there were some moments when my investment dropped by a lot  (while still being profitable), in the long run it showed very decent returns, I believe it's one of the safest ways to invest your crypto, much safer than ICO's or other security offerings, loaning, investing in crypto business, and not to mention hyips and other blatant scams.
It's much better to treat as passive income even you are waiting for much longer time, as dividends is not that big compared to icos if the project
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June 15, 2019, 09:29:15 PM
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Of course, there are a lot of gamblers that also investors, it's up to your budget if you can afford to invest in bankroll or just you are only a gambler. Nevertheless, it is a safe way to invest in reputed bankroll in a gambling site and I think this forum who accepted ads of gambling were helping you to find a reputable gambling site, since gambling industry that related crypto was recently growing like a bunch of mushrooms.
That is a nice review I think that when it comes to investing in the bankroll, the risk and uncertainty of gaining profits are lower than what you face if you are gambling. This means that the prospects of making money in investment is far more than what it is in gambling. But people not just gamble for money and many might be here to enjoy which you do not get to do when you are an investor and not gambler.
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June 16, 2019, 09:36:52 AM
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Investing in the bankroll would only be good if the gambler isn't really great at gambling,
And also if the gambler is looking for a continues profit of course it would take sometime before you could see your profit but it is worth it if you they are looking for the long run.
But choosing a good casino to invest in is also one of the thing that you need to search there are so many new crypto casino right now so investor should be cautious on the site that they would invest,
There are already some crypto casino that are trusted and have a huge amount of gambler so those are safe for investment for my opinion.

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Invest on gambling site doesn't always you can be earn profit in the end. One of popular thread, https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@btcmillionaire/bitcoin-casino-investments-50-week-49-of-52 you can see how's the return after week 49, which turned his 43 btc investment to only 10 btc (Down 76%).

There are already some crypto casino that are trusted and have a huge amount of gambler so those are safe for investment for my opinion.
Why don't you said where are some trusted casino  we can invest?
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Actually, there are two things you can do to earn in gambling and being a gambler is not one of it. First is by being a house then you got your surewin everytime there would be a game and this is called the house edge. The other thing is that by putting your money on the gambling site to become its investor and got some shares in it. I dont know the terms but a friend of mine do it before.

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June 17, 2019, 10:22:32 AM
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I know people in this subection are probably going to be against this sort of rhetoric, though I know that most people here are avid gamblers. Which is fine, though there is a problem that arises when you gamble all the time -- you're not going to be making any money, and all you're doing is losing.

Wouldn't you much rather invest in the bankroll of a gambling website, so you'd be able to make some money off of people like you?

I do understand that there is risk in giving other people access to your BTC (or whatever coin you choose) though that same risk is present when you gamble and put coins on the platform.


Okay here is the reason that some people are not going to consider bank roll. You invest in bank roll and you make a percentage based on how much you invested. Most of the people you see gamble with just little money and they keep trying their luck to win. If they are going to need to invest in bank roll that means that they are going to need a bigger amount to be able to make big profit and they are not even sure to whether the bank roll they are investing is legit. But whatever… it's all about risk.
Proper research is necessary and if that is the case, it doesn’t scare me at all to invest in bank roll because I know I will never make any mistake of risking a large amount of money without being 100 percent sure of where I am throwing my money.

For me I prefer bank roll and any other project that will not be based on luck than to use small money to gamble in a game that does not even have 50:50 chances of being successful. I know we have some gamblers that do win big, but in all sincerity, what is really their ratio to losers, I could tell you that it is going to be something like 20:80. Most gamblers are addict and losers.

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June 17, 2019, 11:11:49 AM
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I know people in this subection are probably going to be against this sort of rhetoric, though I know that most people here are avid gamblers. Which is fine, though there is a problem that arises when you gamble all the time -- you're not going to be making any money, and all you're doing is losing.

Wouldn't you much rather invest in the bankroll of a gambling website, so you'd be able to make some money off of people like you?

I do understand that there is risk in giving other people access to your BTC (or whatever coin you choose) though that same risk is present when you gamble and put coins on the platform.


Okay here is the reason that some people are not going to consider bank roll. You invest in bank roll and you make a percentage based on how much you invested. Most of the people you see gamble with just little money and they keep trying their luck to win. If they are going to need to invest in bank roll that means that they are going to need a bigger amount to be able to make big profit and they are not even sure to whether the bank roll they are investing is legit. But whatever… it's all about risk.
That's definitely true you're not going to triple your bankroll investment overnight but the risk isn't the same, I think it comes down to diversifying your moves.

We could invest even in the small money, but we cannot expect to get a lot of return from the investment. But still, we could get a nice profit if we have the patience to see the investment will grow bigger. But that will not always guarantee for us to see the amount of the investment will go to bigger because there will be a time for the investment to reduces, especially if the house loses some money.

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June 18, 2019, 08:02:24 AM
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Investing in the bankroll would only be good if the gambler isn't really great at gambling,
And also if the gambler is looking for a continues profit of course it would take sometime before you could see your profit but it is worth it if you they are looking for the long run.
But choosing a good casino to invest in is also one of the thing that you need to search there are so many new crypto casino right now so investor should be cautious on the site that they would invest,
There are already some crypto casino that are trusted and have a huge amount of gambler so those are safe for investment for my opinion.
Well for me, I see nothing wrong with betting directly and that’s even more of a profitable investment, the only challenge is with gamblers who have problems with Bankroll management. There is every possibility of optimal organization and distribution of money for betting but it’s always necessary for us to create and determine our own bankroll management strategies, the implication of these is for a player to determine his stakes and the expected number of picks he intend taking over some period of time they intend to bet.

In my opinion, I would rather play as a smart gambler, while ill  be great investor than  Bankroll, because applying  all the strategies in managing my bankroll definitely make me get the most profitable and best statistical results needed for my bets.
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Investing in the bankroll would only be good if the gambler isn't really great at gambling,
And also if the gambler is looking for a continues profit of course it would take sometime before you could see your profit but it is worth it if you they are looking for the long run.
But choosing a good casino to invest in is also one of the thing that you need to search there are so many new crypto casino right now so investor should be cautious on the site that they would invest,
There are already some crypto casino that are trusted and have a huge amount of gambler so those are safe for investment for my opinion.
Well for me, I see nothing wrong with betting directly and that’s even more of a profitable investment, the only challenge is with gamblers who have problems with Bankroll management. There is every possibility of optimal organization and distribution of money for betting but it’s always necessary for us to create and determine our own bankroll management strategies, the implication of these is for a player to determine his stakes and the expected number of picks he intend taking over some period of time they intend to bet.

In my opinion, I would rather play as a smart gambler, while ill  be great investor than  Bankroll, because applying  all the strategies in managing my bankroll definitely make me get the most profitable and best statistical results needed for my bets.
  You cannot say that gambling is not worth investing your time and money in because it is the $530 billion dollar industry and though there have been the rule of risk and probability in this part of the industry, it is still worth going for gambling if you have the experience to do so. However, the flow of profits could be way too constant and promising if you go for investment.

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June 18, 2019, 07:59:03 PM
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Investing in the bankroll would only be good if the gambler isn't really great at gambling,
And also if the gambler is looking for a continues profit of course it would take sometime before you could see your profit but it is worth it if you they are looking for the long run.
But choosing a good casino to invest in is also one of the thing that you need to search there are so many new crypto casino right now so investor should be cautious on the site that they would invest,
There are already some crypto casino that are trusted and have a huge amount of gambler so those are safe for investment for my opinion.
Well for me, I see nothing wrong with betting directly and that’s even more of a profitable investment, the only challenge is with gamblers who have problems with Bankroll management. There is every possibility of optimal organization and distribution of money for betting but it’s always necessary for us to create and determine our own bankroll management strategies, the implication of these is for a player to determine his stakes and the expected number of picks he intend taking over some period of time they intend to bet.

In my opinion, I would rather play as a smart gambler, while ill  be great investor than  Bankroll, because applying  all the strategies in managing my bankroll definitely make me get the most profitable and best statistical results needed for my bets.
  You cannot say that gambling is not worth investing your time and money in because it is the $530 billion dollar industry and though there have been the rule of risk and probability in this part of the industry, it is still worth going for gambling if you have the experience to do so. However, the flow of profits could be way too constant and promising if you go for investment.


Investment is always been ideal compared if you do gamble which is really totally different.Yes, gambling industry is way too big which it signifies on how many people do really loves to gamble as a house investor you can always presume that probability of profitability is high.

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June 18, 2019, 09:44:31 PM
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I know people in this subection are probably going to be against this sort of rhetoric, though I know that most people here are avid gamblers. Which is fine, though there is a problem that arises when you gamble all the time -- you're not going to be making any money, and all you're doing is losing.

Wouldn't you much rather invest in the bankroll of a gambling website, so you'd be able to make some money off of people like you?

I do understand that there is risk in giving other people access to your BTC (or whatever coin you choose) though that same risk is present when you gamble and put coins on the platform.


We have our different styles in consuming our money. It is good to invest your money in bankroll or cryptocurrency. But we have the rights to leisure. In fact, it was indicated in UDHR. We need also to have things that will give us enjoyment and I think gambling help us to release our stress. However, too much of it cause us to a stress also. So, we need to do things moderately.

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I know people in this subection are probably going to be against this sort of rhetoric, though I know that most people here are avid gamblers. Which is fine, though there is a problem that arises when you gamble all the time -- you're not going to be making any money, and all you're doing is losing.

Wouldn't you much rather invest in the bankroll of a gambling website, so you'd be able to make some money off of people like you?

I do understand that there is risk in giving other people access to your BTC (or whatever coin you choose) though that same risk is present when you gamble and put coins on the platform.


We have our different styles in consuming our money. It is good to invest your money in bankroll or cryptocurrency. But we have the rights to leisure. In fact, it was indicated in UDHR. We need also to have things that will give us enjoyment and I think gambling help us to release our stress. However, too much of it cause us to a stress also. So, we need to do things moderately.
Yes, investing on cryptocurrencies were the best one can do for a bigger profiting. Gambling causes stress than relieving, as very few users spend with lot of funds. Even a loss won't affect their living, while majority of the users were into compulsion of winning as they've spend their hard earnings into gambling which could ruin the living standard.
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June 19, 2019, 03:44:46 AM
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Yes, investing on cryptocurrencies were the best one can do for a bigger profiting.
no thats not always the case that happens  . so many people invest on cryptos because they heard that investing in cryptos can provide them easy and huge money but only few are succesful and most of them have failed because they maybe impatient enough to wait or they arent knwoledgeable enough to choose the right coin  .

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Gambling causes stress than relieving, as very few users spend with lot of funds. Even a loss won't affect their living, while majority of the users were into compulsion of winning as they've spend their hard earnings into gambling which could ruin the living standard.

depends on what type of gambler you are  . if your playing for fun then you wont mind loosing because you will still enjoy even of you loose all you balance but if your playing for the money then you will feel pressured and depressed/stress if ever you loose .
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June 19, 2019, 05:22:23 AM
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Invest on gambling site doesn't always you can be earn profit in the end. One of popular thread, https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@btcmillionaire/bitcoin-casino-investments-50-week-49-of-52 you can see how's the return after week 49, which turned his 43 btc investment to only 10 btc (Down 76%).

There are already some crypto casino that are trusted and have a huge amount of gambler so those are safe for investment for my opinion.
Why don't you said where are some trusted casino  we can invest?
Well if you mean the casinos sites that are trustworthy to invest in, I would like to tell you that you will definitely find a very wide variety of choice .But my advice for you as a player is to choose the best online casino sites that goes along with your personal needs. Everyone always prefers big payouts, but trust me, there is more to that

I am not saying that payouts are not important as a matter of fact it’s the most vital but also put technology, graphics, bonuses and services into consideration. So before you decide on a casino site that is trustworthy enough for you to invest, Put all this into consideration and be sure that the site is licensed. You can check out fortune jack for this.
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June 19, 2019, 07:59:00 AM
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Actually, there are two things you can do to earn in gambling and being a gambler is not one of it. First is by being a house then you got your surewin everytime there would be a game and this is called the house edge. The other thing is that by putting your money on the gambling site to become its investor and got some shares in it. I dont know the terms but a friend of mine do it before.
I have friends that also do this and according to them, they first of all look for very attractive sites that offers good percentage of betting volume, casino sites that share a lot of its profit with investors, some casino sites are stingy with sharing their profits, the more they give, the better if you want to do that it’s better. It’s always better to look out for sites that are willing to share profits and loses with its investors; investors prefer to choose this type.

So its not really that difficult, once you find sites that offer all these terms then its easy to invest, this is what so many people do these days rather than gambling directly.
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I sometimes do this, specially on places I enjoy gambling myself but unfortunately many of the places I actually love to play do not give us this option. For example if there was an option to support stake and give them my money for investment to their bankroll I would do that in heartbeat and they would have many people who would do the same and they would totally break the investment record for a crypto casino.

However, since they do not exist and I do not trust the wobbly ups and downs of a casinos investment I prefer a more straight and consistent investment. For example freebitco.in has a 4% yearly one which is basically bitcoin staking for your purposes, if you trust them and put your money there you will be making a decent return, with high enough money the interest could be your living wage.
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June 20, 2019, 03:53:47 PM
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Of course, there are a lot of gamblers that also investors, it's up to your budget if you can afford to invest in bankroll or just you are only a gambler. Nevertheless, it is a safe way to invest in reputed bankroll in a gambling site and I think this forum who accepted ads of gambling were helping you to find a reputable gambling site, since gambling industry that related crypto was recently growing like a bunch of mushrooms.
These bunch of mushrooms don't affect the reputable gambling sites which offers all  features of the best gambling sites in single place. I deny the fact experienced gambler will not be able to see the difference between good and bad ones. The investment opportunities can show itself on price charts several times during a year but inside voice related to gambling don't pop up every year. Just my 2 cents.

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June 21, 2019, 07:25:57 AM
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I know people in this subection are probably going to be against this sort of rhetoric, though I know that most people here are avid gamblers. Which is fine, though there is a problem that arises when you gamble all the time -- you're not going to be making any money, and all you're doing is losing.

Wouldn't you much rather invest in the bankroll of a gambling website, so you'd be able to make some money off of people like you?

I do understand that there is risk in giving other people access to your BTC (or whatever coin you choose) though that same risk is present when you gamble and put coins on the platform.


Okay here is the reason that some people are not going to consider bank roll. You invest in bank roll and you make a percentage based on how much you invested. Most of the people you see gamble with just little money and they keep trying their luck to win. If they are going to need to invest in bank roll that means that they are going to need a bigger amount to be able to make big profit and they are not even sure to whether the bank roll they are investing is legit. But whatever… it's all about risk.
That's definitely true you're not going to triple your bankroll investment overnight but the risk isn't the same, I think it comes down to diversifying your moves.

We could invest even in the small money, but we cannot expect to get a lot of return from the investment. But still, we could get a nice profit if we have the patience to see the investment will grow bigger. But that will not always guarantee for us to see the amount of the investment will go to bigger because there will be a time for the investment to reduces, especially if the house loses some money.
Anything investment is meant for patient people and a good investor understands that the return is always very small but with patience it grows big and meaningful over the years, I think is just better to commit an amount of money that doesn’t really have effect on our financial base and forget it for a while. The good thing about investment is that it would always come back in bigger fold.

But for those who do not have patience, there is an option of learning all the skill and strategies in playing, so it’s important to learn so as to be getting constant money, I know of people who make their daily living from gambling but at the altar of sacrifices, nothing comes easy.
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June 21, 2019, 08:22:21 AM
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I sometimes do this, specially on places I enjoy gambling myself but unfortunately many of the places I actually love to play do not give us this option. For example if there was an option to support stake and give them my money for investment to their bankroll I would do that in heartbeat and they would have many people who would do the same and they would totally break the investment record for a crypto casino.

However, since they do not exist and I do not trust the wobbly ups and downs of a casinos investment I prefer a more straight and consistent investment. For example freebitco.in has a 4% yearly one which is basically bitcoin staking for your purposes, if you trust them and put your money there you will be making a decent return, with high enough money the interest could be your living wage.
It's a yearly wage it's good if the value of bitcoin will keep rising up investing it with passive returns will be a good options for your money, but if the market will make a sideways and bitcoin value will fall then chances to get any good benefits will not be possible, it's best to learn more about your
target places and invest with money you are willing to wait and let go.
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June 21, 2019, 10:27:24 AM
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It's a yearly wage it's good if the value of bitcoin will keep rising up investing it with passive returns will be a good options for your money, but if the market will make a sideways and bitcoin value will fall then chances to get any good benefits will not be possible, it's best to learn more about your
target places and invest with money you are willing to wait and let go.
In short it is still what we called gambling knowing the things where we will go and put our money. However, one should have the initiative and common sense in order to gain. Whatever purpose may it be for bitcoin investment or other adversities in gambling or investing as long as one does know when to profit or not.
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June 22, 2019, 06:08:54 AM
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I sometimes do this, specially on places I enjoy gambling myself but unfortunately many of the places I actually love to play do not give us this option. For example if there was an option to support stake and give them my money for investment to their bankroll I would do that in heartbeat and they would have many people who would do the same and they would totally break the investment record for a crypto casino.

However, since they do not exist and I do not trust the wobbly ups and downs of a casinos investment I prefer a more straight and consistent investment. For example freebitco.in has a 4% yearly one which is basically bitcoin staking for your purposes, if you trust them and put your money there you will be making a decent return, with high enough money the interest could be your living wage.
Frankly speaking, investing with a trusted casino site is the best and safest thing to do, although every investment comes with a level and most at times its based on the rate of return. From my observation, the safest bankroll investments are better with the sites that off the lowest return and most of the times some sites that offer high returns can be quite risky. Like you mention 4% for stakes, I think that’s quite fair, but most gamblers will never be cool with it considering that 4% yearly return is small.

I think it’s better safe than being lost. I would rather keep my money safe and get a minimum return than invest in a site without hope of getting back my money.

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June 22, 2019, 06:48:42 AM
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People chooses gambling for east and lot of money so they are going to take risk to make it possible.

But investing on their bankroll is kind of transdtional investment can can give constant realistic investment but it is not going to suit for the people like gamblers.
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It's a yearly wage it's good if the value of bitcoin will keep rising up investing it with passive returns will be a good options for your money, but if the market will make a sideways and bitcoin value will fall then chances to get any good benefits will not be possible, it's best to learn more about your
target places and invest with money you are willing to wait and let go.
In short it is still what we called gambling knowing the things where we will go and put our money. However, one should have the initiative and common sense in order to gain. Whatever purpose may it be for bitcoin investment or other adversities in gambling or investing as long as one does know when to profit or not.
By common sense I can assume you mean the ability to evaluate the risk in a particular business as compared to risk in another business. This is a very common for an investor and he would always avoid the kind of investment that would make him profits under the banner of uncertainty and risk. That being said, for me, investment in bankroll is something more attractive to stay safe.
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June 23, 2019, 12:50:10 AM
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People chooses gambling for east and lot of money so they are going to take risk to make it possible.

But investing on their bankroll is kind of transdtional investment can can give constant realistic investment but it is not going to suit for the people like gamblers.
So you choose trading for west?
What do you mean by traditional investment? Is there any new investment? Investment on gambling site is simply put your money on a site and then let it be. It also prevent you to lose more money if you tell someone to set password so you can't use it for gambling too much
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June 24, 2019, 10:30:15 AM
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I know people in this subection are probably going to be against this sort of rhetoric, though I know that most people here are avid gamblers. Which is fine, though there is a problem that arises when you gamble all the time -- you're not going to be making any money, and all you're doing is losing.

Wouldn't you much rather invest in the bankroll of a gambling website, so you'd be able to make some money off of people like you?

I do understand that there is risk in giving other people access to your BTC (or whatever coin you choose) though that same risk is present when you gamble and put coins on the platform.


Man there's nothing wrong with what you have said! Cause it is the truth. There's time that it will reach and the house will have more advantage and the players will just be losing their games. So it's a better idea to invest in their bankroll, there will be a better chance there. And also there are other options as well for investment if anyone feels like they are tired of gambling. Buying and Hodl Bitcoin is already a good investment and is better to do than gambling, cause you're sure that you're going to make profit especially at this time that prices are upping.
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June 25, 2019, 02:56:46 AM
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People chooses gambling for east and lot of money so they are going to take risk to make it possible.

But investing on their bankroll is kind of transdtional investment can can give constant realistic investment but it is not going to suit for the people like gamblers.

At least, investing with the casino will give them a chance to make money from gambling. But for the real gamblers, they feel that they will not make them satisfied because they cannot feel any sensation in the gambling games. They will prefer to choose to play any games they want while they can use their money to invest too.

Investing in the casino can prevent us from losing the money because we use some money with them and we can wait for a while until we can see the investment money can grow. In a long time, I guess I can give another return to us.
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People chooses gambling for east and lot of money so they are going to take risk to make it possible.

But investing on their bankroll is kind of transdtional investment can can give constant realistic investment but it is not going to suit for the people like gamblers.
Yeah, gamblers wants a fast profit and in gambling its possible. They have different goals in playing, gamblers know how to play the game they want and for them its their strength. Investin on bankroll can make small profit but not big as the jackpot on slot machine, the excitement are also on playing so i doubt gamblers will focus on investing than playing. 
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I think it’s better safe than being lost. I would rather keep my money safe and get a minimum return than invest in a site without hope of getting back my money.

Frankly speaking, I bet half of you guys all talk about investing in a casino bankroll but none of you actually do it. Typical in this gambling forum I guess. I say this because so few of you are talking about the real risk of losing money, not just by the casino taking off and taking all your money in an exit scam (yes, even those who started out trusted can do this, just check the forum if you don't believe me). But also from actually losing money to lucky players.

Better safe than being lost indeed!

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People chooses gambling for east and lot of money so they are going to take risk to make it possible.

But investing on their bankroll is kind of transdtional investment can can give constant realistic investment but it is not going to suit for the people like gamblers.
Yeah, gamblers wants a fast profit and in gambling its possible. They have different goals in playing, gamblers know how to play the game they want and for them its their strength. Investin on bankroll can make small profit but not big as the jackpot on slot machine, the excitement are also on playing so i doubt gamblers will focus on investing than playing. 
Just what it said, gamblers mostly focus with quick profits and not thinking of the other side only few who are interested with passive investment
and its' just small portions of real numbers of those gamblers who are involved with this market, maybe for some it have some value but for many
they will play and take the chance.
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June 25, 2019, 08:14:18 AM
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Investing in the bankroll would only be good if the gambler isn't really great at gambling,
And also if the gambler is looking for a continues profit of course it would take sometime before you could see your profit but it is worth it if you they are looking for the long run.
But choosing a good casino to invest in is also one of the thing that you need to search there are so many new crypto casino right now so investor should be cautious on the site that they would invest,
There are already some crypto casino that are trusted and have a huge amount of gambler so those are safe for investment for my opinion.
Well for me, I see nothing wrong with betting directly and that’s even more of a profitable investment, the only challenge is with gamblers who have problems with Bankroll management. There is every possibility of optimal organization and distribution of money for betting but it’s always necessary for us to create and determine our own bankroll management strategies, the implication of these is for a player to determine his stakes and the expected number of picks he intend taking over some period of time they intend to bet.

In my opinion, I would rather play as a smart gambler, while ill  be great investor than  Bankroll, because applying  all the strategies in managing my bankroll definitely make me get the most profitable and best statistical results needed for my bets.
Yes you are making a great point and you just wrote out my mind. Gambling is far the easiest and safest thing to do but not for everyone and talking about bankroll management, what will you say of a player who gambles everything they have in the name of taking risk? That’s absolute dumbness and mismanagement, I feel if the rules of gambling are being adhered to, then there would be no need for investment in bankroll, rather we would have better players.

Like you mentioned strategies, martingale strategy is one of such that has saved and been saving gamblers from time immemorial lol.
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June 25, 2019, 10:29:41 AM
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Basically its all about preferences or about passion. People who are gambling vs people who are investing in the site's bankroll has their own passion/preferences as well as has their own reasons why they choose to gamble or to invest. I myself prefer to gamble as I don't have huge amount of money to invest to earn good amount of money while I can gamble my small amount of money with a chance to win big. The chance that is unavailable in investing. Surely I know the risk of gambling, but as long as I enjoy it then I'll still do it.

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People chooses gambling for east and lot of money so they are going to take risk to make it possible.

But investing on their bankroll is kind of transdtional investment can can give constant realistic investment but it is not going to suit for the people like gamblers.
Did you think it is easy to make money through gambling. Taking risk when you know you are going to lose is not a good investment strategy. Bankrolling is less risk and if you can manage it well in a long time you will be in profits. Gambling on the other hand is all about making it today and losing it tomorrow.
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People chooses gambling for east and lot of money so they are going to take risk to make it possible.

But investing on their bankroll is kind of transdtional investment can can give constant realistic investment but it is not going to suit for the people like gamblers.
Did you think it is easy to make money through gambling. Taking risk when you know you are going to lose is not a good investment strategy. Bankrolling is less risk and if you can manage it well in a long time you will be in profits. Gambling on the other hand is all about making it today and losing it tomorrow.
  There is always a factor of uncertainty when it comes to making money with gambling because you are not promised by the market forces a rise in value but only by your intelligence and experience. In trade and business, the market forces can also go in favor of a rise in the value of the assets you trade or deal in, hence a profit. However, after you spend some time in the gambling industry, you start making some money.
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June 26, 2019, 06:09:06 AM
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Actually, there are two things you can do to earn in gambling and being a gambler is not one of it. First is by being a house then you got your surewin everytime there would be a game and this is called the house edge. The other thing is that by putting your money on the gambling site to become its investor and got some shares in it. I dont know the terms but a friend of mine do it before.
I have friends that also do this and according to them, they first of all look for very attractive sites that offers good percentage of betting volume, casino sites that share a lot of its profit with investors, some casino sites are stingy with sharing their profits, the more they give, the better if you want to do that it’s better. It’s always better to look out for sites that are willing to share profits and loses with its investors; investors prefer to choose this type.

So its not really that difficult, once you find sites that offer all these terms then its easy to invest, this is what so many people do these days rather than gambling directly.
Maybe you should ask your friends very well and if they will be nice enough to share some of the challenges with this investment. Do you really think most of these sites are willing to share their profit? And how much percentage do they offer?  I don’t really buy into this investment idea because is like getting a drop of water from an ocean when you can work to get drums of water from same ocean.

Casino sites make a lot of money and the fastest way too get enough out of this is to learn the methods to playing well and making wins, it pays more to win in gambling than investment. That investment only comes with minor moneys while gambling yourself gives us the opportunity to explore and make more.
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June 26, 2019, 08:00:56 AM
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If I wanted to do that I would rather go and try to start my own casino instead.  It doesn't take much starting capital to make your own online casino and it is one of the best business models because you are guaranteed to make a profit.  Nothing like real life casinos that require a lot of money to run.

Well, if you have the resources to create one then why not, I think casinos whether online or real life casinos are profitable depending on how you manage them, besides they are both gambling websites so they can generate profits but it’s up to you if you don’t find online casino a good business then better go with the real life casino but it would require a lot of money.

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July 03, 2019, 12:15:54 AM
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People chooses gambling for east and lot of money so they are going to take risk to make it possible.

But investing on their bankroll is kind of transdtional investment can can give constant realistic investment but it is not going to suit for the people like gamblers.
Did you think it is easy to make money through gambling. Taking risk when you know you are going to lose is not a good investment strategy. Bankrolling is less risk and if you can manage it well in a long time you will be in profits. Gambling on the other hand is all about making it today and losing it tomorrow.
Bet 1btc on 95% winning chance and you will get easy 100k satoshis or $11 from each of your bet. Doesn't sound bad right? (If you want to risk 1 btc though).

Investment in long time doesn't guarantee you will get higher profit than gambling because there should be a case when a big whale won a lot in a gambling site and your investment could be decreased or the worse is it will wipe out all of your investment
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I haven't tried that bankroll thing, and I wish I could learn that kind of in investments aside from gambling with online bets like sports betting. My friend told me about that investment at gambling sites who had bank roll system for their gambling site. I dreamed to gain full knowledge about and hope this is more profitable than playing gambling games.

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July 03, 2019, 02:14:29 AM
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If I wanted to do that I would rather go and try to start my own casino instead.  It doesn't take much starting capital to make your own online casino and it is one of the best business models because you are guaranteed to make a profit.  Nothing like real life casinos that require a lot of money to run.

Well, if you have the resources to create one then why not, I think casinos whether online or real life casinos are profitable depending on how you manage them, besides they are both gambling websites so they can generate profits but it’s up to you if you don’t find online casino a good business then better go with the real life casino but it would require a lot of money.

Yes, making a new casino will be better to make a profit because if we are only playing gambling, we just spend the money without having a profit in a long time. That is why for people who have much money, they will consider building a new casino because they know that will help them to gain more profit. But once we know and we can build the casino, and we can see how much profit the casino, we will build another casino to generate more profits in a long time. But will depends on how much money we have to create a new casino.
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July 03, 2019, 12:37:27 PM
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I haven't tried that bankroll thing, and I wish I could learn that kind of in investments aside from gambling with online bets like sports betting. My friend told me about that investment at gambling sites who had bank roll system for their gambling site. I dreamed to gain full knowledge about and hope this is more profitable than playing gambling games.
Why don't try on yolodice? Afaik they offer you investment option too for all people. While you invest, i don't think yoy need to get full knowledge about that, just find a trusted gambling site, deposit your money and let it go.
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July 03, 2019, 03:11:38 PM
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I know people in this subection are probably going to be against this sort of rhetoric, though I know that most people here are avid gamblers. Which is fine, though there is a problem that arises when you gamble all the time -- you're not going to be making any money, and all you're doing is losing.

Wouldn't you much rather invest in the bankroll of a gambling website, so you'd be able to make some money off of people like you?

I do understand that there is risk in giving other people access to your BTC (or whatever coin you choose) though that same risk is present when you gamble and put coins on the platform.


Well, I believe that every is risky. Even it was gambling or not everything that money involved is risky. You can't just tell that banroll is easy, everything but really investing on something need the strong decision tht even you win or not you should invest because looking on that project seems like interesting and can make great opportunity for you, again it's risky. The strategy in life can make win.
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The difference lies in the time-frame of realization of profits in bankrolls. Gambling can yield you significant amounts of money in a short-amount of time but the risk is proportional to the amount you gamble. That is the reason on why most gamblers prefer gambling than investing money. Furthermore, gambling requires a relative to no skill at all to participate whereas bankroll investing requires knowledge and experience in order to lower the risk of losing your investment.

I haven't tried that bankroll thing, and I wish I could learn that kind of in investments aside from gambling with online bets like sports betting. My friend told me about that investment at gambling sites who had bank roll system for their gambling site. I dreamed to gain full knowledge about and hope this is more profitable than playing gambling games.

Well that is the ideal situation but it would require you some degree of knowledge to participate. But in all honesty, I hope that people open their eyes in reality that gambling cannot be a profitable venture in the long-run especially if you view it as a way to answer your financial problems.

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July 03, 2019, 04:54:08 PM
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Anyway, if you make sports bets and do not play in online casinos, here for a gambler there will be certain ways for maneuver and the opportunity to really calculate your results for a possible win.

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