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November 10, 2011, 11:31:01 PM
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I am now regaining my login information for the domain. Once I retrieve it (and if I retrieve it), I want to present it to you as a gift in exchange for the value of you being you.

Contact me if you wish to claim this personal favor. Thanks.

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November 11, 2011, 12:23:30 AM
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gift != favor
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November 11, 2011, 12:25:56 AM
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I am now regaining my login information for the domain. Once I retrieve it (and if I retrieve it), I want to present it to you as a gift in exchange for the value of you being you.

Contact me if you wish to claim this personal favor. Thanks.

gift != favor

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November 11, 2011, 12:54:08 AM
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Egomaniacal tirade? Check. Entanglement in a web of half-truths? Check. Contradictions even within the same sentence? Check.

Try humility some time. It's nice to have respect.
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November 11, 2011, 02:18:52 AM
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value. 

How many times have you used this word, and how have you still not figured out what the real definition is?
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November 11, 2011, 03:24:48 AM
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value.  

How many times have you used this word, and how have you still not figured out what the real definition is?

I understand what your definition is. I don't agree with it nor abide by it. Applies to "favor" as well, pedants.
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November 11, 2011, 03:30:18 AM
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Egomaniacal tirade? Check. Entanglement in a web of half-truths? Check. Contradictions even within the same sentence? Check.

Try humility some time. It's nice to have respect.

I have gotten pretty far by being myself. Humility is for the insecure. It is only a virtue to the weak and the enslaved. I do not obey and I do not submit. I recognize and revere the virtues and accomplishments of others while retaining my value as a human being. I am not lower than any cause, entity or person. I only act and love out of my existence. To provide value is to be of value and that I shall remain.
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November 11, 2011, 03:32:49 AM
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Egomaniacal tirade? Check. Entanglement in a web of half-truths? Check. Contradictions even within the same sentence? Check.

Try humility some time. It's nice to have respect.

I have gotten pretty far by being myself. Humility is for the insecure. It is only a virtue to the weak and the enslaved.

This one is epic.  

I laughed so hard after reading this.

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1. Submitting to God and legitimate authority.

2. Recognizing virtues and talents that others possess, particularly those that surpass one's own (sounds like stockholm jealousy), and giving due honor (Since when is honor owed? I value people because I want to.) and, when required, obedience

3. Recognizing the limits of one's talents, ability, or authority (Forget authority. I rule nobody and nobody rules me); and, not reaching for what is beyond one's grasp.


Looking at religious views of humility makes me hate its current definition even more.

I stand by the idea of it as garbage. I believe every man should hold himself high and as a valuable human being -- not in shame. This to me is irrational, this idea of lowering yourself. It's bunk.

You are all capable of creating tremendous value! Do not shun it! Don't limit yourself in the name of this false virtue!

This whole philosophy is disgusting.

DURR I AM UNWORTHY. I AM WORTHLESS. YOU'RE GREATER. NO, YOU'RE GREATER. DURR HURR

Why can't we be ourselves? Why we can't all celebrate each others greatness while not degrading ourselves?
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November 11, 2011, 05:47:23 AM
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value.  

How many times have you used this word, and how have you still not figured out what the real definition is?

I understand what your definition is. I don't agree with it nor abide by it. Applies to "favor" as well, pedants.

If you're going to use a language, learn to use it right. This is first grade stuff here, and you still haven't caught on.

Fucking up the definitions and usage of simple words make you come across as a moron that refuses to learn anything. For all you go on about how you know nothing except of your ignorance, you sure do refuse to improve yourself.
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November 11, 2011, 07:00:03 AM
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Egomaniacal tirade? Check. Entanglement in a web of half-truths? Check. Contradictions even within the same sentence? Check.

Try humility some time. It's nice to have respect.

I have gotten pretty far by being myself. Humility is for the insecure. It is only a virtue to the weak and the enslaved. I do not obey and I do not submit. I recognize and revere the virtues and accomplishments of others while retaining my value as a human being. I am not lower than any cause, entity or person. I only act and love out of my existence. To provide value is to be of value and that I shall remain.

Has this been translated into several different languages through Google translate before finally being translated back to English?

All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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November 11, 2011, 08:22:14 AM
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One time I took my value named Fido on a walk. Fido valued everywhere! I had to pull out my value and use it to scoop up the poop. Values can be really messy sometimes.

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1. Submitting to God and legitimate authority.

2. Recognizing virtues and talents that others possess, particularly those that surpass one's own (sounds like stockholm jealousy), and giving due honor (Since when is honor owed? I value people because I want to.) and, when required, obedience

3. Recognizing the limits of one's talents, ability, or authority (Forget authority. I rule nobody and nobody rules me); and, not reaching for what is beyond one's grasp.


Looking at religious views of humility makes me hate its current definition even more.

I stand by the idea of it as garbage. I believe every man should hold himself high and as a valuable human being -- not in shame. This to me is irrational, this idea of lowering yourself. It's bunk.

You are all capable of creating tremendous value! Do not shun it! Don't limit yourself in the name of this false virtue!

This whole philosophy is disgusting.

DURR I AM UNWORTHY. I AM WORTHLESS. YOU'RE GREATER. NO, YOU'RE GREATER. DURR HURR

Why can't we be ourselves? Why we can't all celebrate each others greatness while not degrading ourselves?


Because no one is perfect, and the sooner we accept this the sooner we can get a clearer understanding of how the world works.

Also Value is highly subjective and you keep treating it like an objective good or goal.

Part of holding yourself high as a valuable human being is the act of holding other humans high as valuable people too.

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November 11, 2011, 09:19:16 AM
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Ah, I love the raging hormone levels of the 17 year old. Unfortunately it's going to be such a "fall of the mighty" when biologically inevitably endogeneous levels will drop in 4 years. For people like Atlas who are cursed with such a strong emotional response to their hormones, this will mean a harder fall then for most. One can only hope, he'll live through it all.

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November 11, 2011, 09:25:46 AM
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I honestly think that Matthew should clarify whether his statement that Atlas had stolen from himself and other members of his group was just a hyperbolic reference to Atlas not having transferred this domain to him.  If it was, then that was a pretty dramatic and misleading description of events.  If the reference was to something else, then I wish Matthew would put all his cards on the table once and for all now instead of revealing stuff in episodic fashion like the writer of some badly produced, low budget soap opera.

So what did Atlas steal?  

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November 11, 2011, 10:48:23 AM
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Egomaniacal tirade? Check. Entanglement in a web of half-truths? Check. Contradictions even within the same sentence? Check.

Try humility some time. It's nice to have respect.

I have gotten pretty far by being myself. Humility is for the insecure. It is only a virtue to the weak and the enslaved. I do not obey and I do not submit. I recognize and revere the virtues and accomplishments of others while retaining my value as a human being. I am not lower than any cause, entity or person. I only act and love out of my existence. To provide value is to be of value and that I shall remain.

It's like seeing a piano student try to play like Rachmaninov: he hits most of the right notes but the rhythm is completely off and it all sounds stilted and broken.

Atlas, you do not sound intelligent when you write like this. Your sentences don't flow at all and most of the longer words that you use don't quite mean what you think that they do. Your grammar and syntax are "good" in that they follow grammatical rules in a mechanical sense but none of it strings together well; a copy-editor would slap the shit out of you. Worse, when you write this sort of confused paragraph on how great you are and how humility is for those who lack confidence, you merely come across as immature and/or stupid.

Oh, and saying that you're not "insecure" is just silly: you've created a dozen accounts to hide your mistakes and you've threatened suicide on these forums. If you were truly secure in who you are, you'd make a mistake and be able to learn from it and walk on with your head held high instead of hiding it poorly behind a new persona that any idiot could spot because your writing style is so obvious. If you were able and experienced enough to be that secure then you wouldn't do/say any of the things that you have been.

You're a kid, be a kid. Step away from the computer, have fun with your youth, accept that you can be a dumbfuck sometimes (because, like all 17yos, you are), and stop trying to be a pompous adult.
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November 11, 2011, 11:20:11 AM
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More proof that Atlas still hasn't been able to buy a thesaurus with bitcoins, he somehow has equated humility with subjugation.

Is there a literary form of selective hearing? Where he can ignore entire sentences, or just gloss over them?
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November 11, 2011, 01:33:15 PM
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I never called anyone perfect. Also, stop giving me advice. It's worthless. I understand it completely. It's wrong.
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1. Submitting to God and legitimate authority.

2. Recognizing virtues and talents that others possess, particularly those that surpass one's own (sounds like stockholm jealousy), and giving due honor (Since when is honor owed? I value people because I want to.) and, when required, obedience

3. Recognizing the limits of one's talents, ability, or authority (Forget authority. I rule nobody and nobody rules me); and, not reaching for what is beyond one's grasp.


Looking at religious views of humility makes me hate its current definition even more.

I stand by the idea of it as garbage. I believe every man should hold himself high and as a valuable human being -- not in shame. This to me is irrational, this idea of lowering yourself. It's bunk.

You are all capable of creating tremendous value! Do not shun it! Don't limit yourself in the name of this false virtue!

This whole philosophy is disgusting.

DURR I AM UNWORTHY. I AM WORTHLESS. YOU'RE GREATER. NO, YOU'RE GREATER. DURR HURR

Why can't we be ourselves? Why we can't all celebrate each others greatness while not degrading ourselves?


Because no one is perfect, and the sooner we accept this the sooner we can get a clearer understanding of how the world works.

Also Value is highly subjective and you keep treating it like an objective good or goal.

Part of holding yourself high as a valuable human being is the act of holding other humans high as valuable people too.

I value imperfection and value is objective. It may not be unilateral in consensus but people do things because they value them. We exchange out of value. It is the objective good that makes the world go round. Selfish pleasure is the ultimate end.
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November 11, 2011, 03:23:12 PM
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Humility is for the insecure. It is only a virtue to the weak and the enslaved.

I agree with the sentiment, but have you given any thought that maybe you're pretty weak and insecure yourself for requiring this much attention on a daily basis and generally being a very emotional person?

I have and then I realized it's pointless. In the end, it's only a matter of perception. People can think what they wish.
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I don't really know who you are, but is English your second language?  If it is that's cool, I can't imagine talking in your primary language, but you should cut out the big words, most of them don't mean what you seem to think they mean. 

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I don't really know who you are, but is English your second language?  If it is that's cool, I can't imagine talking in your primary language, but you should cut out the big words, most of them don't mean what you seem to think they mean. 
Give some examples, please.
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November 11, 2011, 05:34:32 PM
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Well gift is something given with no expectation of repayment.  A favor is generally something given with expectation of it being paid back, as in repay the favor.  

Unilateral decision means one of two or more sides, you are speaking about people in general in the sentence you used it in, there is no other side.  A better word would be unanimous, which means in complete agreement, which fits the context of what you were trying to say much better.  

Additionally, your talk of "creating value" is odd, you don't create value.  You create or do things that are valued, or have value, you don't create value.  

Also your writing style in general is odd, the many sentence fragments really break up the rhythm of what you are trying to say.  I also saw what you said about not agreeing with the definition of the words, but that just doesn't make sense.  It's the definition whether you agree or not, isn't it?

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November 11, 2011, 05:58:08 PM
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Not to take sides, but I found this post interesting, then compelled to Google "creating value" (included quotes). With over 2M results, I opted to link to this one: http://www.fool.com/investing/value/2011/09/29/markels-management-is-creating-value.aspx


As always, context is king. 

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A positive EVA momentum reading means a company has created more value by increasing its EVA while a negative EVA momentum reading means EVA has decreased, signaling less value creation...

There is a reason most of those links were to dry business documents  Wink

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Well gift is something given with no expectation of repayment.  A favor is generally something given with expectation of it being paid back, as in repay the favor.  

I disagree on principle. I give gifts because the repayment is inherent; the value of the person I'm giving to.

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Unilateral decision means one of two or more sides, you are speaking about people in general in the sentence you used it in, there is no other side.  A better word would be unanimous, which means in complete agreement, which fits the context of what you were trying to say much better.  

I agree with you here. Unanimous is the better choice of word. Thanks. : )

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Additionally, your talk of "creating value" is odd, you don't create value.  You create or do things that are valued, or have value, you don't create value.
Once again, I disagree on principle. People go into an exchange to receive more than what they had before; value is created.


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Yeah, it could use some work.
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November 11, 2011, 06:55:58 PM
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When you say humility is for the weak, you ignore the most imporant aspects (bold converted to emphasis, my own bolding added):

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2. Recognizing virtues and talents that others possess, particularly those that surpass one's own (sounds like stockholm jealousy), and giving due honor (Since when is honor owed? I value people because I want to.) and, when required, obedience

3. Recognizing the limits of one's talents, ability, or authority (Forget authority. I rule nobody and nobody rules me); and, not reaching for what is beyond one's grasp.

Without humility, it is impossible to exchange value to everybody's mutual benefit.

However, since you seem to have a strange definition of "value", maybe my argument doesn't apply.

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I see where you're coming from, and I'm with you.  But what I'm saying is, repayment for a gift is different from that of a favor.  When you are doing someone a favor, equal(ish) value is expected to be returned at some point (calling in a favor).  Which is putting them in your debt (a matter of dignity for those who don't like owing others).  A gift has no such stigma associated with it, regardless of what is received.      

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When you say humility is for the weak, you ignore the most imporant aspects (bold converted to emphasis, my own bolding added):

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1. Submitting to God and legitimate authority.

2. Recognizing virtues and talents that others possess, particularly those that surpass one's own (sounds like stockholm jealousy), and giving due honor (Since when is honor owed? I value people because I want to.) and, when required, obedience

3. Recognizing the limits of one's talents, ability, or authority (Forget authority. I rule nobody and nobody rules me); and, not reaching for what is beyond one's grasp.

Without humility, it is impossible to exchange value to everybody's mutual benefit.

However, since you seem to have a strange definition of "value", maybe my arguement doesn't apply.


I value people and their virtues so I am humble? I know I am human so I am humble?
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You may have noticed the defintions of humility you quoted don't mention value.

Everybody has things they are better at than the average person, while conversely, everybody has things they are worse at than the average person. People humble enough to recongnize this can exchange goods and services to their mutual benefit. If you do not recognize your limits or the ablilites of others, any exchange you enter into will likely be inefficient and sub-optimal.

To force people to accept a sub-optimal exchange involves coersion.

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You may have noticed the defintions of humility you quoted don't mention value.

Everybody has things they are better at than the average person, while conversely, everybody has things they are worse at than the average person. People humble enough to recongnize this can exchange goods and services to their mutual benefit. If you do not recognize your limits or the ablilites of others, any exchange you enter into will likely be inefficient and sub-optimal.

To force people to accept a sub-optimal exchange involves coersion.

So people who are not humble steal?
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You may have noticed the defintions of humility you quoted don't mention value.

Everybody has things they are better at than the average person, while conversely, everybody has things they are worse at than the average person. People humble enough to recongnize this can exchange goods and services to their mutual benefit. If you do not recognize your limits or the ablilites of others, any exchange you enter into will likely be inefficient and sub-optimal.

To force people to accept a sub-optimal exchange involves coersion.

So people who are not humble steal?

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Well, the whole definition of humility at this point is 3p7548-98875=60943;nksdf;dsfg;m ds; ,m ;mp /;,mcx,h. It's not consistent.

humble:

1. not proud or arrogant; modest: to be humble although successful.
2. having a feeling of insignificance, inferiority, subservience, etc.: In the presence of so many world-famous writers I felt very humble.
3. low in rank, importance, status, quality, etc.; lowly: of humble origin; a humble home.

This is what I am going by.
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You may have noticed the defintions of humility you quoted don't mention value.

Everybody has things they are better at than the average person, while conversely, everybody has things they are worse at than the average person. People humble enough to recongnize this can exchange goods and services to their mutual benefit. If you do not recognize your limits or the ablilites of others, any exchange you enter into will likely be inefficient and sub-optimal.

To force people to accept a sub-optimal exchange involves coersion.

So people who are not humble steal?

Considering your aversion to humility and the fact that you indeed stole, the answer seems self-evident.

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You may have noticed the defintions of humility you quoted don't mention value.

Everybody has things they are better at than the average person, while conversely, everybody has things they are worse at than the average person. People humble enough to recongnize this can exchange goods and services to their mutual benefit. If you do not recognize your limits or the ablilites of others, any exchange you enter into will likely be inefficient and sub-optimal.

To force people to accept a sub-optimal exchange involves coersion.

So people who are not humble steal?

Considering your aversion to humility and the fact that you indeed stole, the answer seems self-evident.
I swear on my life that I haven't stolen anything of value.
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You may have noticed the defintions of humility you quoted don't mention value.

Everybody has things they are better at than the average person, while conversely, everybody has things they are worse at than the average person. People humble enough to recongnize this can exchange goods and services to their mutual benefit. If you do not recognize your limits or the ablilites of others, any exchange you enter into will likely be inefficient and sub-optimal.

To force people to accept a sub-optimal exchange involves coersion.

So people who are not humble steal?

Considering your aversion to humility and the fact that you indeed stole, the answer seems self-evident.
I swear on my life that I haven't stolen anything of value.
Theft is theft regardless of value

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You may have noticed the defintions of humility you quoted don't mention value.

Everybody has things they are better at than the average person, while conversely, everybody has things they are worse at than the average person. People humble enough to recongnize this can exchange goods and services to their mutual benefit. If you do not recognize your limits or the ablilites of others, any exchange you enter into will likely be inefficient and sub-optimal.

To force people to accept a sub-optimal exchange involves coersion.

So people who are not humble steal?

Considering your aversion to humility and the fact that you indeed stole, the answer seems self-evident.
I swear on my life that I haven't stolen anything of value.
Theft is theft regardless of value
I couldn't care less. I haven't revoked any significant value from anybody. If there is no victim, why should I care?  I'll steal all I damn please if it doesn't cost anybody anything.

No victim, no problem.

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November 11, 2011, 08:10:08 PM
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You may have noticed the defintions of humility you quoted don't mention value.

Everybody has things they are better at than the average person, while conversely, everybody has things they are worse at than the average person. People humble enough to recongnize this can exchange goods and services to their mutual benefit. If you do not recognize your limits or the ablilites of others, any exchange you enter into will likely be inefficient and sub-optimal.

To force people to accept a sub-optimal exchange involves coersion.

So people who are not humble steal?

Considering your aversion to humility and the fact that you indeed stole, the answer seems self-evident.
I swear on my life that I haven't stolen anything of value.
Theft is theft regardless of value
I couldn't care less. I haven't revoked any significant value from anybody. If there is no victim, why should I care?  I'll steal all I damn please if it doesn't cost anybody anything.

No victim, no problem.

Victimless crimes are only marks of tyranny.
Victimless? a crime has a victim by definition

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November 11, 2011, 08:11:41 PM
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You may have noticed the defintions of humility you quoted don't mention value.

Everybody has things they are better at than the average person, while conversely, everybody has things they are worse at than the average person. People humble enough to recongnize this can exchange goods and services to their mutual benefit. If you do not recognize your limits or the ablilites of others, any exchange you enter into will likely be inefficient and sub-optimal.

To force people to accept a sub-optimal exchange involves coersion.

So people who are not humble steal?

Considering your aversion to humility and the fact that you indeed stole, the answer seems self-evident.
I swear on my life that I haven't stolen anything of value.
Theft is theft regardless of value
I couldn't care less. I haven't revoked any significant value from anybody. If there is no victim, why should I care?  I'll steal all I damn please if it doesn't cost anybody anything.

No victim, no problem.

Victimless crimes are only marks of tyranny.
Victimless? a crime has a victim by definition
The crime of stealing something that has no value is victimless and hence not a crime. The state and the sheep can whine about it insulting their sensibilities all they want but their claim has no merit.
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November 11, 2011, 08:14:43 PM
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You may have noticed the defintions of humility you quoted don't mention value.

Everybody has things they are better at than the average person, while conversely, everybody has things they are worse at than the average person. People humble enough to recongnize this can exchange goods and services to their mutual benefit. If you do not recognize your limits or the ablilites of others, any exchange you enter into will likely be inefficient and sub-optimal.

To force people to accept a sub-optimal exchange involves coersion.

So people who are not humble steal?

Considering your aversion to humility and the fact that you indeed stole, the answer seems self-evident.
I swear on my life that I haven't stolen anything of value.
Theft is theft regardless of value
I couldn't care less. I haven't revoked any significant value from anybody. If there is no victim, why should I care?  I'll steal all I damn please if it doesn't cost anybody anything.

No victim, no problem.

Victimless crimes are only marks of tyranny.
Victimless? a crime has a victim by definition
The crime of stealing something that has no objective value is victimless and hence not a crime.
The value of anything stolen is determined by the rightful owner not the thief, if the rightful owner did not contester it of any value it would be given freely and not something that could be stolen in the first place.

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November 11, 2011, 08:17:07 PM
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You may have noticed the defintions of humility you quoted don't mention value.

Everybody has things they are better at than the average person, while conversely, everybody has things they are worse at than the average person. People humble enough to recongnize this can exchange goods and services to their mutual benefit. If you do not recognize your limits or the ablilites of others, any exchange you enter into will likely be inefficient and sub-optimal.

To force people to accept a sub-optimal exchange involves coersion.

So people who are not humble steal?

Considering your aversion to humility and the fact that you indeed stole, the answer seems self-evident.
I swear on my life that I haven't stolen anything of value.
Theft is theft regardless of value
I couldn't care less. I haven't revoked any significant value from anybody. If there is no victim, why should I care?  I'll steal all I damn please if it doesn't cost anybody anything.

No victim, no problem.

Victimless crimes are only marks of tyranny.
Victimless? a crime has a victim by definition
The crime of stealing something that has no objective value is victimless and hence not a crime.
The value of anything stolen is determined by the rightful owner not the thief, if the rightful owner did not contester it of any value it would be given freely and not something that could be stolen in the first place.
Well, they did give their sub-fractions of pennies in electricity voluntarily by accepting to run any software that was on my blog. Thank you for clearing this up: I haven't stolen from anybody.
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November 11, 2011, 08:18:55 PM
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Well, they did give their sub-fractions of pennies in electricity voluntarily by accepting to run any software that was on my blog. Thank you for clearing this up.

And the hundreds of dollars in bitcoins you stole from the person who won your wager when you decided you didn't want to pay?
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November 11, 2011, 08:19:33 PM
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Well, they did give their sub-fractions of pennies in electricity voluntarily by accepting to run any software that was on my blog. Thank you for clearing this up.

And the hundreds of dollars in bitcoins you stole from the person who won your wager when you decided you didn't want to pay?
No such crime occurred.
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November 11, 2011, 08:53:00 PM
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You may have noticed the defintions of humility you quoted don't mention value.

Everybody has things they are better at than the average person, while conversely, everybody has things they are worse at than the average person. People humble enough to recongnize this can exchange goods and services to their mutual benefit. If you do not recognize your limits or the ablilites of others, any exchange you enter into will likely be inefficient and sub-optimal.

To force people to accept a sub-optimal exchange involves coersion.

So people who are not humble steal?

Considering your aversion to humility and the fact that you indeed stole, the answer seems self-evident.
I swear on my life that I haven't stolen anything of value.
Theft is theft regardless of value
I couldn't care less. I haven't revoked any significant value from anybody. If there is no victim, why should I care?  I'll steal all I damn please if it doesn't cost anybody anything.

No victim, no problem.

Victimless crimes are only marks of tyranny.
Victimless? a crime has a victim by definition

You seem to be confused. Who is the victim if I walk out my back door and pop a couple rounds off into the tree trunk back there? Cause it's super-illegal...

http://gawker.com/5858759/100000-atlas-shrugged-dvds-recalled-for-perfectly-hilarious-reason

This is why I came back to this thread...
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November 11, 2011, 08:54:32 PM
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You may have noticed the defintions of humility you quoted don't mention value.

Everybody has things they are better at than the average person, while conversely, everybody has things they are worse at than the average person. People humble enough to recongnize this can exchange goods and services to their mutual benefit. If you do not recognize your limits or the ablilites of others, any exchange you enter into will likely be inefficient and sub-optimal.

To force people to accept a sub-optimal exchange involves coersion.

So people who are not humble steal?

Considering your aversion to humility and the fact that you indeed stole, the answer seems self-evident.
I swear on my life that I haven't stolen anything of value.
Theft is theft regardless of value
I couldn't care less. I haven't revoked any significant value from anybody. If there is no victim, why should I care?  I'll steal all I damn please if it doesn't cost anybody anything.

No victim, no problem.

Victimless crimes are only marks of tyranny.
Victimless? a crime has a victim by definition

You seem to be confused. Who is the victim if I walk out my back door and pop a couple rounds off into the tree trunk back there? Cause it's super-illegal...

http://gawker.com/5858759/100000-atlas-shrugged-dvds-recalled-for-perfectly-hilarious-reason

This is why I came back to this thread...
Laws aren't morality and I don't stand under them. I do what I prefer. It's not a matter of who is going to let me do something. It's a matter of who's going to stop me. Who's going to stop me from firing weapons on my own property? Probably nobody. My neighbors are very friendly and I can do it regularly despite the local ordinances.

Anyways, my preference dictates no aggression. As long as I don't aggress against anybodies person or property, I'll have no qualms acting as I please.
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November 11, 2011, 08:58:49 PM
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You may have noticed the defintions of humility you quoted don't mention value.

Everybody has things they are better at than the average person, while conversely, everybody has things they are worse at than the average person. People humble enough to recongnize this can exchange goods and services to their mutual benefit. If you do not recognize your limits or the ablilites of others, any exchange you enter into will likely be inefficient and sub-optimal.

To force people to accept a sub-optimal exchange involves coersion.

So people who are not humble steal?

Considering your aversion to humility and the fact that you indeed stole, the answer seems self-evident.
I swear on my life that I haven't stolen anything of value.
Theft is theft regardless of value
I couldn't care less. I haven't revoked any significant value from anybody. If there is no victim, why should I care?  I'll steal all I damn please if it doesn't cost anybody anything.

No victim, no problem.

Victimless crimes are only marks of tyranny.
Victimless? a crime has a victim by definition

You seem to be confused. Who is the victim if I walk out my back door and pop a couple rounds off into the tree trunk back there? Cause it's super-illegal...

http://gawker.com/5858759/100000-atlas-shrugged-dvds-recalled-for-perfectly-hilarious-reason

This is why I came back to this thread...
Laws aren't morality and I don't stand under them. I do what I prefer. It's not a matter of who is going to let me do something. It's a matter of who's going to stop me. Who's going to stop me from firing weapons on my own property? Probably nobody. My neighbors are very friendly and I can do it regularly despite the local ordinances.



You know who else does what they want...Cartman.

That's you! Did you ever see your life hitting such lows, where you were the cartman amongst a bunch of pasty computer dweebs that aren't getting laid? I mean...that's gotta suck.
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November 11, 2011, 09:01:55 PM
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You may have noticed the defintions of humility you quoted don't mention value.

Everybody has things they are better at than the average person, while conversely, everybody has things they are worse at than the average person. People humble enough to recongnize this can exchange goods and services to their mutual benefit. If you do not recognize your limits or the ablilites of others, any exchange you enter into will likely be inefficient and sub-optimal.

To force people to accept a sub-optimal exchange involves coersion.

So people who are not humble steal?

Considering your aversion to humility and the fact that you indeed stole, the answer seems self-evident.
I swear on my life that I haven't stolen anything of value.
Theft is theft regardless of value
I couldn't care less. I haven't revoked any significant value from anybody. If there is no victim, why should I care?  I'll steal all I damn please if it doesn't cost anybody anything.

No victim, no problem.

Victimless crimes are only marks of tyranny.
Victimless? a crime has a victim by definition

You seem to be confused. Who is the victim if I walk out my back door and pop a couple rounds off into the tree trunk back there? Cause it's super-illegal...

http://gawker.com/5858759/100000-atlas-shrugged-dvds-recalled-for-perfectly-hilarious-reason

This is why I came back to this thread...
Laws aren't morality and I don't stand under them. I do what I prefer. It's not a matter of who is going to let me do something. It's a matter of who's going to stop me. Who's going to stop me from firing weapons on my own property? Probably nobody. My neighbors are very friendly and I can do it regularly despite the local ordinances.



You know who else does what they want...Cartman.

That's you! Did you ever see your life hitting such lows, where you were the cartman amongst a bunch of pasty computer dweebs that aren't getting laid? I mean...that's gotta suck.

Heh, I love how South Park is written by two Libertarians. Anyways, Cartman is awesome. Fuck you, man.

In an online forum (South Park Studios Chat, 10 May 2001),[4] Parker and Stone responded to a participant's question:

    Q: Are you two guys liberal or conservative? Me and my friends have had debates about this.
    TREY: We avoid extremes but we hate liberals more than conservatives and we hate them [conservatives].
    MATT: I hate conservatives but I really fucking hate liberals.
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November 11, 2011, 09:03:24 PM
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I swear on my life that I haven't stolen anything of value.

You don't get to determine what is of value to others.  Just because something may be of little material value of of no value at all to you doesn't mean that it's of no value to the person who possesses it.

And why would you steal something which is of no value to you?  The act of stealing on its own implies that you want the thing you're stealing - that it has some value to you.

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November 11, 2011, 09:06:43 PM
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I swear on my life that I haven't stolen anything of value.

You don't get to determine what is of value to others.  Just because something may be of little material value of of no value at all to you doesn't mean that it's of no value to the person who possesses it.

And why would you steal something which is of no value to you?  The act of stealing on its own implies that you want the thing you're stealing - that it has some value to you.
Look, you're taking my time right now. It might be small but to me that is worth over $100. I am going to have to bill you.

Anyways:

So what if it has value to me? Are you jealous, bro? You hate that I derive so much value my sub-Bitcoin fractions of a cent? Are you going to call mommy because I am having so much fun without you? Look, I'll help you out, man. I'll send you some Bit-fractions tonight. Heck, everyone can have some. There's enough for everyone! I am just awesome like that.
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November 11, 2011, 09:11:56 PM
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Good. Send me the BTC you still owe me while you're at it.

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Good. Send me the BTC you still owe me while you're at it.
I don't owe you any BTC.
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November 11, 2011, 10:05:13 PM
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Guys..

I've never had the feeling more than I do now after reading this thread..


Atlas is maybe a clever troll..  Props..



He has responded god knows how many times on this thread alone, and they all have been complete utter ridiculousness, one more wilder and bizzare than the next, complete lack of basic human compassion, common sense and moral center. Its hilarious!

They all have gotten a furry of responses (emotion) back from each new statement of craziness from us.


Its fascinates me this person Atlas could actually be and act as he describes himself. But it MUST be an act? it HAS to be an act..



We have been trolled..  this is one big long troll..  


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November 11, 2011, 10:40:36 PM
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Guys..

I've never had the feeling more than I do now after reading this thread..


Atlas is maybe a clever troll..  Props..



He has responded god knows how many times on this thread alone, and they all have been complete utter ridiculousness, one more wilder and bizzare than the next, complete lack of basic human compassion, common sense and moral center. Its hilarious!

They all have gotten a furry of responses (emotion) back from each new statement of craziness from us.


Its fascinates me this person Atlas could actually be and act as he describes himself. But it MUST be an act? it HAS to be an act..



We have been trolled..  this is one big long troll..  


 Cheesy






I think the same thing, but then I remember how stupid and cocksure I must have been at 17 and I start to doubt my doubts....
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November 11, 2011, 10:52:29 PM
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It's a matter of semantics. I agree with the general definition of humility here and I'll leave it at that.
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November 11, 2011, 10:53:27 PM
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Look, you're taking my time right now. It might be small but to me that is worth over $100. I am going to have to bill you.

Good try, but can't call you reading his post him taking your time.

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Look, you're taking my time right now. It might be small but to me that is worth over $100. I am going to have to bill you.

Good try, but can't call you reading his post him taking your time.

Especially when he could put me on ignore and not even have to take the time to scroll past my posts.  Reading my posts is absolutely voluntary as is me reading his.  Whether either of us believes it was a worthwhile use of our time after the fact is irrelevant.

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PinkiePie was a better troll. Oh, PinkiePie. Sad
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November 11, 2011, 11:19:15 PM
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Yeah, unfortunately it's just an Atlas gimmick.  Embarrassed

The real Atlas would have screamed bloody murder and have accused me of being a scammity fraudster again for mentioning that bitcoin he owes me.

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November 11, 2011, 11:33:42 PM
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Yeah, unfortunately it's just an Atlas gimmick.  Embarrassed

The real Atlas would have screamed bloody murder and have accused me of being a scammity fraudster again for mentioning that bitcoin he owes me.

I don't know...maybe our little forum clown is growing up?
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November 12, 2011, 11:29:05 AM
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You know what the best part is? Atlas saying his crimes are victimless, even when he is stealing and taking advantage of others, makes him a parasite. The one thing he can't stand.

And no, Atlas, before you even begin. A parasite does not take things by force, that's predation. A parasite takes from others without providing anything to the host in return. All the "value" you provide to your victims is not reimbursement for your parasitism.
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November 12, 2011, 04:56:46 PM
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You know what the best part is? Atlas saying his crimes are victimless, even when he is stealing and taking advantage of others, makes him a parasite. The one thing he can't stand.

And no, Atlas, before you even begin. A parasite does not take things by force, that's predation. A parasite takes from others without providing anything to the host in return. All the "value" you provide to your victims is not reimbursement for your parasitism.
A parasite requires a victim. The host is harmed in the process. I've harmed nobody. I am not a parasite.

Your definition of parasitism is wrong.

If I am not providing the correct value in return for what I am taking, it's stealing. I have not stolen anything of value. Parasites steal. If I cost my host nothing, I am only a symbiont: I can only create value.
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November 12, 2011, 05:37:05 PM
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A parasite requires a victim. The host is harmed in the process. I've harmed nobody. I am not a parasite.

Your definition of parasitism is wrong.

This coming from you is hilarious. Parasitism does not involve taking something by force, which is what you contended on somehting awful:"Parasites are people who take by force. Rapists, The IRS, etc. " When you learn the proper definition, you can try correcting people.

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If I am not providing the correct value in return for what I am taking, it's stealing. I have not stolen anything of value. Parasites steal. If I cost my host nothing, I am only a symbiont: I can only create value.

Like hijacking someone's computer for your own purpose, without telling them, and potentially harming their hardware and/or increasing their electic bill while you reap the benefits. Yep, that's value right there.

Que your response that nothing of value was stolen, the amount stolen was miniscule, blah blah. If you repeat something enough, you think people will give in. You know, when everyone around you tells you you're doing wrong, they just might be right.
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A parasite requires a victim. The host is harmed in the process. I've harmed nobody. I am not a parasite.

Your definition of parasitism is wrong.

This coming from you is hilarious. Parasitism does not involve taking something by force, which is what you contended on somehting awful:"Parasites are people who take by force. Rapists, The IRS, etc. " When you learn the proper definition, you can try correcting people.

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If I am not providing the correct value in return for what I am taking, it's stealing. I have not stolen anything of value. Parasites steal. If I cost my host nothing, I am only a symbiont: I can only create value.

Like hijacking someone's computer for your own purpose, without telling them, and potentially harming their hardware and/or increasing their electic bill while you reap the benefits. Yep, that's value right there.

Que your response that nothing of value was stolen, the amount stolen was miniscule, blah blah. If you repeat something enough, you think people will give in. You know, when everyone around you tells you you're doing wrong, they just might be right.
I'll stand by my definition.

Parasitism is a type of symbiotic relationship between organisms of different species where one organism, the parasite, benefits at the expense of the other, the host.

-Wikipedia

It requires force to take.

Anyways, when people go to a website, they accept to run all the software that is on it.


You know, when everyone around you tells you you're doing wrong, they just might be right.
This is a dangerous mentality. The will of the collective is easily altered by social pressures; primal emotion.

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November 12, 2011, 07:17:13 PM
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A parasite requires a victim. The host is harmed in the process. I've harmed nobody. I am not a parasite.

Your definition of parasitism is wrong.

This coming from you is hilarious. Parasitism does not involve taking something by force, which is what you contended on somehting awful:"Parasites are people who take by force. Rapists, The IRS, etc. " When you learn the proper definition, you can try correcting people.

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If I am not providing the correct value in return for what I am taking, it's stealing. I have not stolen anything of value. Parasites steal. If I cost my host nothing, I am only a symbiont: I can only create value.

Like hijacking someone's computer for your own purpose, without telling them, and potentially harming their hardware and/or increasing their electic bill while you reap the benefits. Yep, that's value right there.

Que your response that nothing of value was stolen, the amount stolen was miniscule, blah blah. If you repeat something enough, you think people will give in. You know, when everyone around you tells you you're doing wrong, they just might be right.
I'll stand by my definition.

Parasitism is a type of symbiotic relationship between organisms of different species where one organism, the parasite, benefits at the expense of the other, the host.

-Wikipedia

It requires force to take.

Anyways, when people go to a website, they accept to run all the software that is on it.


You know, when everyone around you tells you you're doing wrong, they just might be right.
This is a dangerous mentality. The will of the collective is easily altered by social pressures; primal emotion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9UlQFRoajs





Copying and pasting a wikipedia entry does not qualify you as understanding parasitism. There are plenty of cases of debatable parasitism, such a zooxanthellae reproducing in corals, where it in unclear that there is any detriment to the host, as the coral sequesters the dinoflagelletes and consumes their waste products of photosynthesis, but there is a clear detriment to the parasite: it is no longer free living and it's population is bioregulated by the host coral and they are digested at will. One could argue that it is mutualism, as both organisms can survive independent of one another, but only one thrives in combination. So what say you to the host benefiting from the parasite? The same could be said about much of your gut flora.
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November 12, 2011, 07:23:15 PM
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A parasite requires a victim. The host is harmed in the process. I've harmed nobody. I am not a parasite.

Your definition of parasitism is wrong.

This coming from you is hilarious. Parasitism does not involve taking something by force, which is what you contended on somehting awful:"Parasites are people who take by force. Rapists, The IRS, etc. " When you learn the proper definition, you can try correcting people.

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If I am not providing the correct value in return for what I am taking, it's stealing. I have not stolen anything of value. Parasites steal. If I cost my host nothing, I am only a symbiont: I can only create value.

Like hijacking someone's computer for your own purpose, without telling them, and potentially harming their hardware and/or increasing their electic bill while you reap the benefits. Yep, that's value right there.

Que your response that nothing of value was stolen, the amount stolen was miniscule, blah blah. If you repeat something enough, you think people will give in. You know, when everyone around you tells you you're doing wrong, they just might be right.
I'll stand by my definition.

Parasitism is a type of symbiotic relationship between organisms of different species where one organism, the parasite, benefits at the expense of the other, the host.

-Wikipedia

It requires force to take.

Anyways, when people go to a website, they accept to run all the software that is on it.


You know, when everyone around you tells you you're doing wrong, they just might be right.
This is a dangerous mentality. The will of the collective is easily altered by social pressures; primal emotion.

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Copying and pasting a wikipedia entry does not qualify you as understanding parasitism. There are plenty of cases of debatable parasitism, such a zooxanthellae reproducing in corals, where it in unclear that there is any detriment to the host, as the coral sequesters the dinoflagelletes and consumes their waste products of photosynthesis, but there is a clear detriment to the parasite: it is no longer free living and it's population is bioregulated by the host coral and they are digested at will. One could argue that it is mutualism, as both organisms can survive independent of one another, but only one thrives in combination. So what say you to the host benefiting from the parasite? The same could be said about much of your gut flora.

In any case, when there is no victim, I show no concern. A woman disgusted with my front door and the fecal matter she had stepped in on her way to it is no victim in my view. She can take my home as-is.
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November 12, 2011, 09:49:29 PM
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So when you repeatedly say you have stole nothing of value..

So you have stole something that is in your eyes worthless ?

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November 12, 2011, 09:52:47 PM
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So when you repeatedly say you have stole nothing of value..

So you have stole something that is in your eyes worthless ?
Not necessarily. I can admire a woman and gain tremendous value from her beauty without taking anything of value but a slight wisp of the air she has breathed. She might look in the mirror and see an abhorrent creature. It's never a zero-sum game.

Anyways, I haven't stolen anything but if you wish to consider it stealing, in this case, it happens to be of little value to me.

If I were to take tremendous benefit from it, it would be no crime. The only "injustice" that would be felt is jealousy.

To quote my writing:

Jealousy is simply hating a person for experiencing pleasure or good fortune. How senseless. Primal -- but senseless. From this basis comes the absurd concept of "fairness"; the sense of entitlement from another's fortune. The only result of acting on this emotion is destruction.
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The only "injustice" that would be felt is jealousy.

To quote my writing:

Jealousy is simply hating a person for experiencing pleasure or good fortune. How senseless. Primal -- but senseless. From this basis comes the absurd concept of "fairness"; the sense of entitlement from another's fortune. The only result of acting on this emotion is destruction.

Unsurprisingly, you're using another word wrongly.  What you're describing is envy, not jealously.  The two words aren't synonyms.  Jealousy is about keeping what one has whereas envy is about resentment caused by not having what one wants.

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November 12, 2011, 10:28:29 PM
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The only "injustice" that would be felt is jealousy.

To quote my writing:

Jealousy is simply hating a person for experiencing pleasure or good fortune. How senseless. Primal -- but senseless. From this basis comes the absurd concept of "fairness"; the sense of entitlement from another's fortune. The only result of acting on this emotion is destruction.

Unsurprisingly, you're using another word wrongly.  What you're describing is envy, not jealously.  The two words aren't synonyms.  Jealousy is about keeping what one has whereas envy is about resentment caused by not having what one wants.
For the sake of the argument, when I say jealousy I mean envy; however, from what I am seeing in actual dictionary definitions, they should be synonyms.
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Why do you try so hard to use big words?

Your response to me was bizzare and very out there..

Your idea of "adult talk" is warped, very few people speak with no emotion, or like a robot professor would talk.. Im at a loss of how to describe it.

It is not having the effect your looking for.  fyi

And quoting yourself..  I wont even go there..   Like its the gospel  Smiley

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Why do you try so hard to use big words?

Your response to me was bizzare and very out there..

Your idea of "adult talk" is warped, very few people speak with no emotion, or like a robot professor would talk.. Im at a loss of how to describe it.

It is not having the effect your looking for.  fyi


My writing is fine. I am typing with little effort, frankly. I would prefer you to address the discussion at hand.
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Your writing is fine, but its when your trying soooo hard to sound smart, is where you lose us.

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Your writing is fine, but its when your trying soooo hard to sound smart, is where you lose us.
Trying, heh? I am really not trying to do anything. I actually feel I don't give these arguments and their participants their due effort sometimes. Anyways, your loss and mine too. I would of been happy to hear you refute me with your wisdom, teflone.
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Why do you try so hard to use big words?

Your response to me was bizzare and very out there..

Your idea of "adult talk" is warped, very few people speak with no emotion, or like a robot professor would talk.. Im at a loss of how to describe it.

It is not having the effect your looking for.  fyi


My writing is fine. I am typing with little effort, frankly. I would prefer you to address the discussion at hand.

Judgement as to quality of the writing is best reserved to those who read said writing rather than the writer. As to typing with "little effort" you are clearly typing with "little thought" as well. I begin to suspect that you are nothing more than one of those clever bots that regurgitates cadged snippets of forum conversation in an attempt to see who can go the longest before being caught out at the deception. Although, I must admit the bit about the woman approaching your door, stepping in shit, and thus being forced to accept your fecal-enhanced lifestyle prima facie, gives me pause as to your level of machine intelligence even.

And since you are so desperately crying out for a dose of grammar Nazi salts- the loss you reference in relation to teflone's statement would be more accurately be introduced by "would have...", "would of..." is a misinterpretation of the colloquialism that you were reaching for, and as the entire subject matter under discussion here is in written form, you would be far more on topic to to write that you have "read his refute", as written wisdom cannot be heard. Unless, of course you are reading out loud, and trying to sound out the difficult words.

Which would explain a lot. It really would of.

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Why do you try so hard to use big words?

Your response to me was bizzare and very out there..

Your idea of "adult talk" is warped, very few people speak with no emotion, or like a robot professor would talk.. Im at a loss of how to describe it.

It is not having the effect your looking for.  fyi


My writing is fine. I am typing with little effort, frankly. I would prefer you to address the discussion at hand.

And since you are so desperately crying out for a dose of grammar Nazi salts- the loss you reference in relation to teflone's statement would be more accurately be introduced by "would have...", "would of..." is a misinterpretation of the colloquialism that you were reaching for, and as the entire subject matter under discussion here is in written form, you would be far more on topic to to write that you have "read his refute", as written wisdom cannot be heard. Unless, of course you are reading out loud, and trying to sound out the difficult words.

Which would explain a lot. It really would of.
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Gentlemen, I think this discussion is very meaningful.  Please keep talking about grammar in the off-topic forum and wasting your time.

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Why do you try so hard to use big words?

Your response to me was bizzare and very out there..

Your idea of "adult talk" is warped, very few people speak with no emotion, or like a robot professor would talk.. Im at a loss of how to describe it.

It is not having the effect your looking for.  fyi


My writing is fine. I am typing with little effort, frankly. I would prefer you to address the discussion at hand.

And since you are so desperately crying out for a dose of grammar Nazi salts- the loss you reference in relation to teflone's statement would be more accurately be introduced by "would have...", "would of..." is a misinterpretation of the colloquialism that you were reaching for, and as the entire subject matter under discussion here is in written form, you would be far more on topic to to write that you have "read his refute", as written wisdom cannot be heard. Unless, of course you are reading out loud, and trying to sound out the difficult words.

Which would explain a lot. It really would of.
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Why do you try so hard to use big words?

Your response to me was bizzare and very out there..

Your idea of "adult talk" is warped, very few people speak with no emotion, or like a robot professor would talk.. Im at a loss of how to describe it.

It is not having the effect your looking for.  fyi


My writing is fine. I am typing with little effort, frankly. I would prefer you to address the discussion at hand.

And since you are so desperately crying out for a dose of grammar Nazi salts- the loss you reference in relation to teflone's statement would be more accurately be introduced by "would have...", "would of..." is a misinterpretation of the colloquialism that you were reaching for, and as the entire subject matter under discussion here is in written form, you would be far more on topic to to write that you have "read his refute", as written wisdom cannot be heard. Unless, of course you are reading out loud, and trying to sound out the difficult words.

Which would explain a lot. It really would of.
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Why do you try so hard to use big words?

Your response to me was bizzare and very out there..

Your idea of "adult talk" is warped, very few people speak with no emotion, or like a robot professor would talk.. Im at a loss of how to describe it.

It is not having the effect your looking for.  fyi


My writing is fine. I am typing with little effort, frankly. I would prefer you to address the discussion at hand.

And since you are so desperately crying out for a dose of grammar Nazi salts- the loss you reference in relation to teflone's statement would be more accurately be introduced by "would have...", "would of..." is a misinterpretation of the colloquialism that you were reaching for, and as the entire subject matter under discussion here is in written form, you would be far more on topic to to write that you have "read his refute", as written wisdom cannot be heard. Unless, of course you are reading out loud, and trying to sound out the difficult words.

Which would explain a lot. It really would of.
Pedantry.

Pedantry? No, child, it is was unabashed sarcasm, with a healthy dose of condescending disdain.

However, it is indeed illuminating that you chose "pedantry" as your dismissive retort. Pedantry is often used in medical literature to describe the precursor behavior that will eventually lead to a diagnosis of Asperger Syndrome, which I expect, given your intimate knowledge of obsessive-compulsive behaviors, and the incessant display of same, might be something that you have heard the adults around you discussing.

Prepare yourself for the next visit:

DSM-IV definition of Asperger Syndrome (called "Asperger Disorder") (APA, 1994)

    A. Qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following: (1) marked impairment in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body postures, and gestures to regulate social interaction

(2) failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level
(3) a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interests, or achievements with other people
(4) lack of social or emotional reciprocity

    B. Restricted repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests, and activities, as manifested by at least one of the following:

(1) encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus
(2) apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals
(3) stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms
(4) persistent preoccupation with parts of objects

    C. The disturbance causes clinically significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning

    D. There is no clinically significant general delay in language (e.g., single words used by age 2 years, communicative phrases used by age 3 years)

    E. There is no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or in the development of age-appropriate self-help skills, adaptive behavior (other than in social interaction), and curiosity about the environment in childhood

    F. Criteria are not met for another specific Pervasive Developmental Disorder or Schizophrenia.

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Why do you try so hard to use big words?

Your response to me was bizzare and very out there..

Your idea of "adult talk" is warped, very few people speak with no emotion, or like a robot professor would talk.. Im at a loss of how to describe it.

It is not having the effect your looking for.  fyi


My writing is fine. I am typing with little effort, frankly. I would prefer you to address the discussion at hand.

And since you are so desperately crying out for a dose of grammar Nazi salts- the loss you reference in relation to teflone's statement would be more accurately be introduced by "would have...", "would of..." is a misinterpretation of the colloquialism that you were reaching for, and as the entire subject matter under discussion here is in written form, you would be far more on topic to to write that you have "read his refute", as written wisdom cannot be heard. Unless, of course you are reading out loud, and trying to sound out the difficult words.

Which would explain a lot. It really would of.
Pedantry.

Pedantry? No, child, it is was unabashed sarcasm, with a healthy dose of condescending disdain.

However, it is indeed illuminating that you chose "pedantry" as your dismissive retort. Pedantry is often used in medical literature to describe the precursor behavior that will eventually lead to a diagnosis of Asperger Syndrome, which I expect, given your intimate knowledge of obsessive-compulsive behaviors, and the incessant display of same, might be something that you have heard the adults around you discussing.

Prepare yourself for the next visit:

DSM-IV definition of Asperger Syndrome (called "Asperger Disorder") (APA, 1994)

    A. Qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following: (1) marked impairment in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body postures, and gestures to regulate social interaction

(2) failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level
(3) a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interests, or achievements with other people
(4) lack of social or emotional reciprocity

    B. Restricted repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests, and activities, as manifested by at least one of the following:

(1) encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus
(2) apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals
(3) stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms
(4) persistent preoccupation with parts of objects

    C. The disturbance causes clinically significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning

    D. There is no clinically significant general delay in language (e.g., single words used by age 2 years, communicative phrases used by age 3 years)

    E. There is no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or in the development of age-appropriate self-help skills, adaptive behavior (other than in social interaction), and curiosity about the environment in childhood

    F. Criteria are not met for another specific Pervasive Developmental Disorder or Schizophrenia.

LMAO, LoupGaroux, for this reason: I envisioned somebody learning about Bitcoin and, upon a Google search, finding this post (and this thread) first before anything else to get up to speed. His only two reactions come to mind: where do I sign up and WTF. I'm pretty sure the latter will be the one crossing his mind. That said, very interesting post. TY.

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Fun fact: I was diagnosed with Aspergers four years ago.
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Fun fact: I was diagnosed with Aspergers four years ago.

Sorry to hear (read) that, bro.

Aside: I'm surprised Matthew's not commenting on this thread. Do you think his in time-out for a couple days?

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Fun fact: I was diagnosed with Aspergers four years ago.

Sorry to hear (read) that, bro.

Aside: I'm surprised Matthew's not commenting on this thread. Do you think his in time-out for a couple days?


theyomos has banned him for three days.  It's in the thread in Meta.

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It wasn't hard to spot. Learn to live some of your dogma, and embrace your challenges, and stop picking fights that nobody wins. You went and got Matthew grounded with your silly spat. It's a frickin' domain. The users in this community probably control 500,000 domains collectively. Don't be a giant putz about it, give it to him with some class and walk away from the battle, it really isn't worth it. Then people will admire your maturity and your disciplined approach to handling conflict.

Don't let this silly shit here get to you. There are actually some really good people out in the world that might serve as a reasonable example if you can take a moment and listen without going ballistic trying to compete/fit-in/rule the world.

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It wasn't hard to spot. Learn to live some of your dogma, and embrace your challenges, and stop picking fights that nobody wins. You went and got Matthew grounded with your silly spat. It's a frickin' domain. The users in this community probably control 500,000 domains collectively. Don't be a giant putz about it, give it to him with some class and walk away from the battle, it really isn't worth it. Then people will admire your maturity and your disciplined approach to handling conflict.

Don't let this silly shit here get to you. There are actually some really good people out in the world that might serve as a reasonable example if you can take a moment and listen without going ballistic trying to compete/fit-in/rule the world.
Are you trying to get a high off being a mentor or something? Hahaha. Look, I act as I please. I don't need a father figure.
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Fun fact: I was diagnosed with Aspergers four years ago.

Sorry to hear (read) that, bro.

Aside: I'm surprised Matthew's not commenting on this thread. Do you think his in time-out for a couple days?

Bah, it's a load of bunk. I'm far from socially inept. I've gotten job offers to just turn them down. They just saw me as different and threw the a-word on me.

Wait, receiving job offers is a sign of being socially adept? Quick, update the PDR! All those greeters at Walmart aren't retarded.
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It wasn't hard to spot. Learn to live some of your dogma, and embrace your challenges, and stop picking fights that nobody wins. You went and got Matthew grounded with your silly spat. It's a frickin' domain. The users in this community probably control 500,000 domains collectively. Don't be a giant putz about it, give it to him with some class and walk away from the battle, it really isn't worth it. Then people will admire your maturity and your disciplined approach to handling conflict.

Don't let this silly shit here get to you. There are actually some really good people out in the world that might serve as a reasonable example if you can take a moment and listen without going ballistic trying to compete/fit-in/rule the world.
Are you trying to get a high off being a mentor or something? Hahaha. Look, I act as I please. I don't need a father figure.

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It wasn't hard to spot. Learn to live some of your dogma, and embrace your challenges, and stop picking fights that nobody wins. You went and got Matthew grounded with your silly spat. It's a frickin' domain. The users in this community probably control 500,000 domains collectively. Don't be a giant putz about it, give it to him with some class and walk away from the battle, it really isn't worth it. Then people will admire your maturity and your disciplined approach to handling conflict.

Don't let this silly shit here get to you. There are actually some really good people out in the world that might serve as a reasonable example if you can take a moment and listen without going ballistic trying to compete/fit-in/rule the world.
Are you trying to get a high off being a mentor or something? Hahaha. Look, I act as I please. I don't need a father figure.

No, you worthless little fuck-wit, I have no interest in being a father figure to a simpleton. The mentoring that I do does not involve spoiled little brats with too much time on their hands, delusions of grandeur and internet connections. I was offering you advice on how to gracefully get out of the septic tank you have created out of your reputation in this community. What a waste of breath! Keep digging shit miner, that hole has a bottom somewhere down there.

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It wasn't hard to spot. Learn to live some of your dogma, and embrace your challenges, and stop picking fights that nobody wins. You went and got Matthew grounded with your silly spat. It's a frickin' domain. The users in this community probably control 500,000 domains collectively. Don't be a giant putz about it, give it to him with some class and walk away from the battle, it really isn't worth it. Then people will admire your maturity and your disciplined approach to handling conflict.

Don't let this silly shit here get to you. There are actually some really good people out in the world that might serve as a reasonable example if you can take a moment and listen without going ballistic trying to compete/fit-in/rule the world.
Are you trying to get a high off being a mentor or something? Hahaha. Look, I act as I please. I don't need a father figure.

No, you worthless little fuck-wit, I have no interest in being a father figure to a simpleton. The mentoring that I do does not involve spoiled little brats with too much time on their hands, delusions of grandeur and internet connections. I was offering you advice on how to gracefully get out of the septic tank you have created out of your reputation in this community. What a waste of breath! Keep digging shit miner, that hole has a bottom somewhere down there.

Heh, I only take advice from people who have attempted to understand me first; I only take advice from friends.

Anyways, I am not in a septic tank. I have no regrets.
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I only take advice from friends.

See, that's your first mistake.
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It wasn't hard to spot. Learn to live some of your dogma, and embrace your challenges, and stop picking fights that nobody wins. You went and got Matthew grounded with your silly spat. It's a frickin' domain. The users in this community probably control 500,000 domains collectively. Don't be a giant putz about it, give it to him with some class and walk away from the battle, it really isn't worth it. Then people will admire your maturity and your disciplined approach to handling conflict.

Don't let this silly shit here get to you. There are actually some really good people out in the world that might serve as a reasonable example if you can take a moment and listen without going ballistic trying to compete/fit-in/rule the world.
Are you trying to get a high off being a mentor or something? Hahaha. Look, I act as I please. I don't need a father figure.

No, you worthless little fuck-wit, I have no interest in being a father figure to a simpleton. The mentoring that I do does not involve spoiled little brats with too much time on their hands, delusions of grandeur and internet connections. I was offering you advice on how to gracefully get out of the septic tank you have created out of your reputation in this community. What a waste of breath! Keep digging shit miner, that hole has a bottom somewhere down there.

Heh, I only take advice from people who have attempted to understand me first; I only take advice from friends.

Anyways, I am not in a septic tank. I have no regrets.

You know, maybe LoupGaroux wasnt tactful enough, but he was giving good advice in my eyes, and you returned the favour by slapping him in the face.

He had your number, hit the nail on the head..  Maybe you could suck it up a little and think about what he said.

Your Ass-purgers syndrome shouldnt be an excuse for you to act the way you do, it should be a hurdle for you to strive to climb over..

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It wasn't hard to spot. Learn to live some of your dogma, and embrace your challenges, and stop picking fights that nobody wins. You went and got Matthew grounded with your silly spat. It's a frickin' domain. The users in this community probably control 500,000 domains collectively. Don't be a giant putz about it, give it to him with some class and walk away from the battle, it really isn't worth it. Then people will admire your maturity and your disciplined approach to handling conflict.

Don't let this silly shit here get to you. There are actually some really good people out in the world that might serve as a reasonable example if you can take a moment and listen without going ballistic trying to compete/fit-in/rule the world.
Are you trying to get a high off being a mentor or something? Hahaha. Look, I act as I please. I don't need a father figure.

No, you worthless little fuck-wit, I have no interest in being a father figure to a simpleton. The mentoring that I do does not involve spoiled little brats with too much time on their hands, delusions of grandeur and internet connections. I was offering you advice on how to gracefully get out of the septic tank you have created out of your reputation in this community. What a waste of breath! Keep digging shit miner, that hole has a bottom somewhere down there.

Heh, I only take advice from people who have attempted to understand me first; I only take advice from friends.

Anyways, I am not in a septic tank. I have no regrets.

You know, maybe LoupGaroux wasnt tactful enough, but he was giving good advice in my eyes, and you returned the favour by slapping him in the face.

He had your number, hit the nail on the head..  Maybe you could suck it up a little and think about what he said.

Your Ass-purgers syndrome shouldnt be an excuse for you to act the way you do, it should be a hurdle for you to strive to climb over..

Oh, I thought about it and refuted most of it based on the fact that it's nothing novel. Also, I am apathetic to most of his presumptions.

Desire is suffering. I don't strive to change myself so I can be more appealing to your sensibilities. It isn't relevant to my happiness.
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Well, we all would love to think that..

But..

Reality is different my friend.


You will find things and life fall into place a bit easier when the whole world isnt against you.

When you constantly fail everyones lessons and for the most part simple advice.  No one will take the time to show you anymore, and it compounds this problem you might be having, or will have in the future.


Cant help people that dont want to be helped.


Does this fit you ?

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Well, we all would love to think that..

But..

Reality is different my friend.


You will find things and life fall into place a bit easier when the whole world isnt against you.

When you constantly fail everyones lessons and for the most part simple advice.  No one will take the time to show you anymore, and it compounds this problem you might be having, or will have in the future.


Cant help people that dont want to be helped.


Does this fit you ?
Heh. If somebody had given me great advice, I would of certainly taken it. I consider everything that is said. Unfortunately and oh-so-sadly most of it is inflated garbage coming from pretentious old men. "Oh, I have had life experience! I'll teach this at risk youth what it means to live!" And they boast and they brag about their adventures and what it means to be a man. Oh, how cock-sure they are in their words of wisdom for they have lived and suffered. To speak about it all in good light can assure it wasn't in vain. Maybe if they are able to sell me on their words can they take ownership over my success and accomplishments.

I am my own man, teflone. All of you are trying to be my parent. If I were to ever consider you my friends, you would have to assume I know what is best for myself.
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Well, we all would love to think that..

But..

Reality is different my friend.


You will find things and life fall into place a bit easier when the whole world isnt against you.

When you constantly fail everyones lessons and for the most part simple advice.  No one will take the time to show you anymore, and it compounds this problem you might be having, or will have in the future.


Cant help people that dont want to be helped.


Does this fit you ?
Heh. If somebody had given me great advice, I would of certainly taken it. I consider everything that is said. Unfortunately and oh-so-sadly most of it is inflated garbage coming from pretentious old men. "Oh, I have had life experience! I'll teach this at risk youth what it means to live!" And they boast and they brag about their adventures and what it means to be a man. Oh, how cock-sure they are in their words of wisdom for they have lived and suffered. To speak about it all in good light can assure it wasn't in vain. Maybe if they are able to sell me on their words can they take ownership over my success and accomplishments.

I am my own man, teflone. All of you are trying to be my parent. If I were to ever consider you my friends, you would have to assume I know what is best for myself.

I havent tried to be rude with you, but in a nutshell, all these people are bothered by your lack of thought.

We all here see something..  it bothers us.  nothing to a great deal (most of us)

But we wish you would learn something, we hope you will learn something.

We get upset at how the "lessons" are wasted, or rejected for no other reason than to reject them.



Age is wisdom, and if you pride yourself on thinking your smart, then suck this stuff up like a sponge, and dont reject it as nonsense just because its old guys spitting out parental advice for no reason.

Its much more relevant than you are clearly allowing it to be. 

Being the bigger man is sometimes the best and hardest thing to do - in regards of this domain drama.

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Well, we all would love to think that..

But..

Reality is different my friend.


You will find things and life fall into place a bit easier when the whole world isnt against you.

When you constantly fail everyones lessons and for the most part simple advice.  No one will take the time to show you anymore, and it compounds this problem you might be having, or will have in the future.


Cant help people that dont want to be helped.


Does this fit you ?
Heh. If somebody had given me great advice, I would of certainly taken it. I consider everything that is said. Unfortunately and oh-so-sadly most of it is inflated garbage coming from pretentious old men. "Oh, I have had life experience! I'll teach this at risk youth what it means to live!" And they boast and they brag about their adventures and what it means to be a man. Oh, how cock-sure they are in their words of wisdom for they have lived and suffered. To speak about it all in good light can assure it wasn't in vain. Maybe if they are able to sell me on their words can they take ownership over my success and accomplishments.

I am my own man, teflone. All of you are trying to be my parent. If I were to ever consider you my friends, you would have to assume I know what is best for myself.

I havent tried to be rude with you, but in a nutshell, all these people are bothered by your lack of thought.

We all here see something..  it bothers us.  nothing to a great deal (most of us)

But we wish you would learn something, we hope you will learn something.

We get upset at how the "lessons" are wasted, or rejected for no other reason than to reject them.



Age is wisdom, and if you pride yourself on thinking your smart, then suck this stuff up like a sponge, and dont reject it as nonsense just because its old guys spitting out parental advice for no reason.

Its much more relevant than you are clearly allowing it to be. 

Being the bigger man is sometimes the best and hardest thing to do - in regards of this domain drama.

Im out!. Cheers, I wish you well


No, I have plenty of thought. You just don't agree with it.
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I would of certainly taken it.

The real Atlas wouldn't have made this error. You need to invest more time into proofreading your gimmick.

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Fun fact: I was diagnosed with Aspergers four years ago.

You and 50% of this forum, ALPHA..

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I would of certainly taken it.

The real Atlas wouldn't have made this error. You need to invest more time into proofreading your gimmick.

What are you saying, greyhawk? That ALPHA is not Atlas? I thought I read something by Matthew that the ISPs were the same, or something to that fact.

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The ISP resolves to Greenfield, Texas. It is a massive AT&T account that includes all of the wifi for Starbucks worldwide. Resolving to that is essentially worthless.

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The ISP resolves to Greenfield, Texas. It is a massive AT&T account that includes all of the wifi for Starbucks worldwide. Resolving to that is essentially worthless.

Dumb. The wifi in a Starbucks in Korea does most certainly not resolve to Texas.

I'm convinced OP is Atlas but I'm still confused as tohos sincerity. If all that's required to end this is to accept the domain as a 'gift', then so be it. My pride in all of this doesn't even matter. I'm doing this for the people who've actually worked and are working on that site to make it something interesting.

I've already e-mailed "alpha.harvy" as soon as I got banned but still no response. I'll be waiting to hear something.

A note to the community: you may not think these boards are for personal arguments, random rants or every whimsical turd that formulates in your mind, but it's all relative to perception. I look at these forums of 'very serious' conversations and see mostly turds bouncing around. I'd love to start a voting thread asking who wants me to leave or how people think I should act differently etc but it doesn't really seem to matter because at the end if the day this forum by policy allows multiple sock puppet accounts and lying about your identity. Why else would I act the way I do? Spare me the internet psychology and character mockery for a name, location and attitude that you don't even know if it's real or not.


You forgot to add "Nikki the Bitch" at the end of your post.  Wink

Refresh my memory. What's the domain name that Atlas is speaking of?

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November 14, 2011, 04:18:44 PM
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Atlas, I agree with you on your opinions of most of the "advice" the people here give you. The only advice I'll ever give you is the following

Rebel against "growing up." It's not all it's cracked up to be. Neither are the "grownups."
If you know what you want to do with your life, stop and reconsider, because you're wrong.
Have fun and put your own needs first.

Everything else I might ever say or suggest is just a personal subjective opinion. Likewise for others' "advice."

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He that humbleth himself wishes to be exalted.

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I want neither exaltation nor your definition of success. I have already achieved happiness.

I don't want people to show me the way. I don't need them to hold doors for me nor close them when I have become dependent on their guidance. I will not become a servant to another's whim. It will never be a matter of who lets me do things but only of who is going to stop me!

I'll act on my own virtues. I'll enjoy stumbling upon knowledge on my own as man has done for the majority of civilization. To me that is the most rewarding journey.

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November 14, 2011, 06:46:41 PM
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He that humbleth himself wishes to be exalted.

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I want neither exaltation nor your definition of success. I have already achieved happiness.

I don't want people to show me the way. I don't need them to hold doors for me nor close them when I have become dependent on their guidance. I will not become a servant to another's whim. It will never be a matter of who lets me do things but only of who is going to stop me!

I'll act on my own virtues. I'll enjoy stumbling upon knowledge on my own as man has done for the majority of civilization. To me that is the most rewarding journey.

For a self made man you do beg strangers for money and labor quite a bit.
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He that humbleth himself wishes to be exalted.

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I want neither exaltation nor your definition of success. I have already achieved happiness.

I don't want people to show me the way. I don't need them to hold doors for me nor close them when I have become dependent on their guidance. I will not become a servant to another's whim. It will never be a matter of who lets me do things but who is going to stop me!

I'll act on my own virtues. I'll enjoy stumbling upon knowledge on my own as man has done for the majority of civilization. To me that is the most rewarding journey.



Civilization has evolved. What you call 'getting back to roots', most educators would call counter-progressive.

I call them ducks. Most educators are not educators at all but merely rhetoricians in the art of provisioned self-esteem. I will not go to them for knowledge. I will accept things through my own understanding and refutation; not through another man's whims.
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He that humbleth himself wishes to be exalted.

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I want neither exaltation nor your definition of success. I have already achieved happiness.

I don't want people to show me the way. I don't need them to hold doors for me nor close them when I have become dependent on their guidance. I will not become a servant to another's whim. It will never be a matter of who lets me do things but only of who is going to stop me!

I'll act on my own virtues. I'll enjoy stumbling upon knowledge on my own as man has done for the majority of civilization. To me that is the most rewarding journey.

For a self made man you do beg strangers for money and labor quite a bit.
I do not beg. I exchange. I wish no man to interact with me if he has nothing to gain.
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He that humbleth himself wishes to be exalted.

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I want neither exaltation nor your definition of success. I have already achieved happiness.

I don't want people to show me the way. I don't need them to hold doors for me nor close them when I have become dependent on their guidance. I will not become a servant to another's whim. It will never be a matter of who lets me do things but only of who is going to stop me!

I'll act on my own virtues. I'll enjoy stumbling upon knowledge on my own as man has done for the majority of civilization. To me that is the most rewarding journey.

For a self made man you do beg strangers for money and labor quite a bit.

I think he has split-personality disorder or difficulties with jealousy possibly. How else could he attempt to get rich off an idea involving markets, development, electronics etc, and then downplay the success of others his age in doing the same thing?

What is it you want to be exactly? The next christ? A shining beacon of knowledge, truth and justice? The next unibomber? I've heard 'I'm still deciding' from you, but it doesn't take a genius to take people's conversation patterns and habitual rants and formulate a hypothesis if their intended direction. Okay, maybe it does.

I think you want to be recognized, and as someone with no skills you stick to what you know (the things you read) and the get rich quick schemes. I understand the fear of education and the anxiety, as well as the difficulties in believing you're not the center of the universe (it's classic aspergers stuff), but what I don't get is why you don't then try to be a jack of all trades?



I don't recall downplaying anybody. I would love to see direct evidence of me degrading people. Haha. I have complete admiration for Zhou. I feel nothing but happiness in regards to him. Well, some apathy considering Bitcoinica isn't generating much wealth at the moment and remains to be a zero-sum gambling operation.
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I think you want to be recognized, and as someone with no skills you stick to what you know (the things you read) and the get rich quick schemes. I understand the fear of education and the anxiety, as well as the difficulties in believing you're not the center of the universe (it's classic aspergers stuff), but what I don't get is why you don't then try to be a jack of all trades?

I don't really have strong desires in regards to any of these matters. I just want to create value and sustain myself. I will be happy with whatever pleasures this brings me. There is really no end goal nor anxiety over the purported journey as a whole.
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He that humbleth himself wishes to be exalted.

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I want neither exaltation nor your definition of success. I have already achieved happiness.

I don't want people to show me the way. I don't need them to hold doors for me nor close them when I have become dependent on their guidance. I will not become a servant to another's whim. It will never be a matter of who lets me do things but who is going to stop me!

I'll act on my own virtues. I'll enjoy stumbling upon knowledge on my own as man has done for the majority of civilization. To me that is the most rewarding journey.



Civilization has evolved. What you call 'getting back to roots', most educators would call counter-progressive.

I call them ducks. Most educators are not educators at all but merely rhetoricians in the art of provisioned self-esteem. I will not go to them for knowledge. I will accept things through my own understanding and refutation; not through another man's whims.

Good educators present issues and only assess a student's abilities to critically examine the issues, not their opinions on it. One thing we learn as teachers is TTT (teacher talk time). It's a style of lecture teaching and it's super easy to fall into as a teacher when you're passionate about the topic (you for example would be in TTT mode 100% of the time as a teacher no doubt), but many educators understand that STT is a better model-- it focuses on debate style learning and involving students, encouraging them to share opinions with each other, only 'teaching' how to deliver those opinions effectively, not which opinions are 'right' or 'wrong'.

I was homeschooled by an overly religious group of mental children and pressured to think the school system, government etc is all out to get me (the same way you talk). The funny thing is, despite their attempts to brainwash me, I grew up perfectly understanding the difference on my own. What's more likely Atlas, that I'm a genius, or that with commonsense any 'bad' teachers can still teach something useful?

Side-question: your teachers must be shit. I didn't go to publuc school but I can't say I've heard many good things about it.



Critical examination and the end opinion go hand-in-hand. False premises can lead to bad answers and there are bad answers in regards to unanimous human desires. Debating style is useless when you end up with a world of incomplete objectives. You will inevitably end up with a bubble of artificial reality that we see in academia today.

A world with no principles is one of only evil. In a compromise between a purported good and evil, evil will always win.

Debate is fun and all but in regards to the world we live in, I prefer sound opinions. The delivery is just flowers and pedantry.

An education shouldn't be about conformity but about giving an individual information to achieve his personal objectives.

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November 14, 2011, 07:21:58 PM
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He that humbleth himself wishes to be exalted.

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I want neither exaltation nor your definition of success. I have already achieved happiness.

I don't want people to show me the way. I don't need them to hold doors for me nor close them when I have become dependent on their guidance. I will not become a servant to another's whim. It will never be a matter of who lets me do things but who is going to stop me!

I'll act on my own virtues. I'll enjoy stumbling upon knowledge on my own as man has done for the majority of civilization. To me that is the most rewarding journey.



Civilization has evolved. What you call 'getting back to roots', most educators would call counter-progressive.

I call them ducks. Most educators are not educators at all but merely rhetoricians in the art of provisioned self-esteem. I will not go to them for knowledge. I will accept things through my own understanding and refutation; not through another man's whims.

Good educators present issues and only assess a student's abilities to critically examine the issues, not their opinions on it. One thing we learn as teachers is TTT (teacher talk time). It's a style of lecture teaching and it's super easy to fall into as a teacher when you're passionate about the topic (you for example would be in TTT mode 100% of the time as a teacher no doubt), but many educators understand that STT is a better model-- it focuses on debate style learning and involving students, encouraging them to share opinions with each other, only 'teaching' how to deliver those opinions effectively, not which opinions are 'right' or 'wrong'.

I was homeschooled by an overly religious group of mental children and pressured to think the school system, government etc is all out to get me (the same way you talk). The funny thing is, despite their attempts to brainwash me, I grew up perfectly understanding the difference on my own. What's more likely Atlas, that I'm a genius, or that with commonsense any 'bad' teachers can still teach something useful?

Side-question: your teachers must be shit. I didn't go to publuc school but I can't say I've heard many good things about it.



Critical examination and the end opinion go hand-in-hand. False premises can lead to bad answers and there are bad answers in regards to unanimous human desires. Debating style is useless when you end up with a world of incomplete objectives. You will inevitably end up with a bubble of artificial reality that we see in academia today.

A world with no principles is one of only evil. In a compromise between a purported good and evil, evil will always win.

Debate is fun and all but in regards to the world we live in, I prefer sound opinions. The delivery is just flowers and pedantry.

An education shouldn't be about conformity but teaching an individual to achieve his objectives.



Yeah, I guess you're right. All those faggots at Harvard are just wasting their time arguing issues in debates based on gentlemanly rules. They should just beat each other up or name call instead! Good idea!

They are and they are just burning money in general. What they achieve is the same result of name calling; a lot like one-sided arguments on Something Awful..

They should be trying to achieve objectives that create wealth and innovation in the end instead of trying to achieve prestige through pseudo-academic papers and notoriety.

Again, debate etiquette is subjective and pedantry. Your idea of humility is a pretentious one: It's all about respecting sensibilities and stroking cocks all the way to the top of a mountain of waste and corpses.
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In short, I am a proud philistine in regards to the appearance to the means of education. I only care about the end. Rugged collectivism in an argument and discussion to notable ends leads to nothing but waste and destruction.
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Your idea of humility is a pretentious one.

It must not be pretentious enough for you judging by your posts against humility.
Go make your friends, Matthew. I'll make what I wish and those who like it will come. Whether anybody comes or not is of no concern to me.
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Your idea of humility is a pretentious one.

It must not be pretentious enough for you judging by your posts against humility.
Go make your friends, Matthew. I'll make what I wish and those who like it will come. Whether anybody comes or not is of no concern to me.
Wouldn't making things that people like be equivalent to making friends as well? Don't you like friends? Didn't you say a few million posts back that you only take advice from friends? Isn't that worse and more insecure than open debate to everyone regardless of position, affiliation, topics etc?

News flash-- making things that no one cares about is a bad way to feed yourself.
All I mean is I make things for me and people happen to like them. Everything I make isn't unilaterally dependent on the approval of others. Sometimes I will derive more pleasure by catering to the desires of others but that isn't the only means to living a pleasurable life.

Being happy with who you are and your choices is more valuable than an open debate compromisable to the most potent whim.

News flash--slavery and servitude is not preferred either.
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Your idea of humility is a pretentious one.

It must not be pretentious enough for you judging by your posts against humility.
Go make your friends, Matthew. I'll make what I wish and those who like it will come. Whether anybody comes or not is of no concern to me.
Wouldn't making things that people like be equivalent to making friends as well? Don't you like friends? Didn't you say a few million posts back that you only take advice from friends? Isn't that worse and more insecure than open debate to everyone regardless of position, affiliation, topics etc?

News flash-- making things that no one cares about is a bad way to feed yourself.
All I mean is I make things for me and people happen to like them. Everything I make isn't unilaterally dependent on the approval of others. Sometimes I will derive more pleasure by catering to the desires of others but that isn't the only means to living a pleasurable life.

Being happy with who you are and your choices is more valuable than an open debate compromisable to the most potent whim.

News flash--slavery and servitude is not preferred either.

See this is where all that philosophy can't protect you talking out if your ass.

What have you ever made that anyone liked? Since you don't believe in humility, I can just say it: this is where the aspergers is fucking with you Atlas.


Heh, everything I do isn't on Skype and bitcointalk.org

I bring a good amount of people value. I have little to prove and I continue to gain.

Take care of yourself, Matthew.
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Your idea of humility is a pretentious one.

It must not be pretentious enough for you judging by your posts against humility.
Go make your friends, Matthew. I'll make what I wish and those who like it will come. Whether anybody comes or not is of no concern to me.
Wouldn't making things that people like be equivalent to making friends as well? Don't you like friends? Didn't you say a few million posts back that you only take advice from friends? Isn't that worse and more insecure than open debate to everyone regardless of position, affiliation, topics etc?

News flash-- making things that no one cares about is a bad way to feed yourself.
All I mean is I make things for me and people happen to like them. Everything I make isn't unilaterally dependent on the approval of others. Sometimes I will derive more pleasure by catering to the desires of others but that isn't the only means to living a pleasurable life.

Being happy with who you are and your choices is more valuable than an open debate compromisable to the most potent whim.

News flash--slavery and servitude is not preferred either.

See this is where all that philosophy can't protect you talking out if your ass.

What have you ever made that anyone liked? Since you don't believe in humility, I can just say it: this is where the aspergers is fucking with you Atlas.


Heh, everything I do isn't on Skype and bitcointalk.org

I bring a good amount of people value.

(besides cheatersnetwork telling people its okay to break the law).
You have to prove this bullshit first. I've never touched that website.
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Your idea of humility is a pretentious one.

It must not be pretentious enough for you judging by your posts against humility.
Go make your friends, Matthew. I'll make what I wish and those who like it will come. Whether anybody comes or not is of no concern to me.
Wouldn't making things that people like be equivalent to making friends as well? Don't you like friends? Didn't you say a few million posts back that you only take advice from friends? Isn't that worse and more insecure than open debate to everyone regardless of position, affiliation, topics etc?

News flash-- making things that no one cares about is a bad way to feed yourself.
All I mean is I make things for me and people happen to like them. Everything I make isn't unilaterally dependent on the approval of others. Sometimes I will derive more pleasure by catering to the desires of others but that isn't the only means to living a pleasurable life.

Being happy with who you are and your choices is more valuable than an open debate compromisable to the most potent whim.

News flash--slavery and servitude is not preferred either.

See this is where all that philosophy can't protect you talking out if your ass.

What have you ever made that anyone liked? Since you don't believe in humility, I can just say it: this is where the aspergers is fucking with you Atlas.


Heh, everything I do isn't on Skype and bitcointalk.org

I bring a good amount of people value.

(besides cheatersnetwork telling people its okay to break the law).
You have to prove this bullshit first. I've never touched that website.


I'll retract since I can't prove it at the moment. Continue.

I make a lot of people happy, Matthew. I can't prove that without giving you references. That's going to be open to abuse.
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What? I was in a meeting. You still crushing on Atlas? Just confess already...

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Another day on Bitcointalk.
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November 14, 2011, 09:50:48 PM
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*takes a long drag out of his e-cig*

Another day on Bitcointalk.

Wouldn't that be illegal?

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November 14, 2011, 10:05:52 PM
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What? I was in a meeting. You still crushing on Atlas? Just confess already...

Matthew, are you secretly Bruce Wagner, who having fled from the US due to various legal complications, is now trying to lure Atlas, a minor, to your love nest in Bangkok?
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November 14, 2011, 10:06:24 PM
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*takes a long drag out of his e-cig*

Another day on Bitcointalk.

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November 14, 2011, 10:24:38 PM
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*takes a long drag out of his e-cig*

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Wouldn't that be illegal?
Nope.

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November 14, 2011, 10:39:48 PM
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Can't you two get married already? This is worse than those sitcom romances.

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November 14, 2011, 10:46:53 PM
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Can't you two get married already? This is worse than those sitcom romances.

No, because it's unrequited love...

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November 15, 2011, 04:30:25 AM
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If I was a gay deluted selfimportant obsessed with Thai boys I'd probably choose someone less conplicated than Atlas-- he is against slavery afterall.



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November 17, 2011, 01:59:32 AM
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I make a lot of people happy, Matthew. I can't prove that without giving you references. That's going to be open to abuse.

I cam verify that, being part of this summer's most popular internet forum-based situational comedy "The Bitcoin Forums", Atlas does make people happy and is rated among the most favorite characters, next to the whimsical yet incompetent swindler/token gay character Bruce Wagner.

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November 18, 2011, 12:22:10 AM
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I make a lot of people happy, Matthew. I can't prove that without giving you references. That's going to be open to abuse.

I cam verify that, being part of this summer's most popular internet forum-based situational comedy "The Bitcoin Forums", Atlas does make people happy and is rated among the most favorite characters, next to the whimsical yet incompetent swindler/token gay character Bruce Wagner.

And Matthew, that persistent doller of sage wisdom who then fires himself up at a moments notice for the role of savior, only to creep out and become your stalker ex...a perfect cast of characters!

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November 18, 2011, 05:07:41 AM
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HOLY JEJUS, can someone get these two in a ring, and then they can fight it out or screw it out, whatever comes naturally

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November 18, 2011, 05:52:17 AM
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PPV tickets can be pruchased here for .25 btc each
the show will air live one week from being able to afford airfare for whichever is cheaper to get to the other one's location
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November 18, 2011, 06:00:16 AM
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PPV tickets can be pruchased here for .25 btc each
the show will air live one week from being able to afford airfare for whichever is cheaper to get to the other one's location
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Is this the leak footage from the PPV? If so, I suggest doubling the cost to view the show.


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PPV CANCELLED DUE TO LACK OF INTEREST
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November 18, 2011, 08:55:28 PM
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Omg...  Cheesy

best post ever..

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November 18, 2011, 09:30:03 PM
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PPV CANCELLED DUE TO LACK OF INTEREST

But, for one night only, can be viewed on the Discover Channel on Wednesday Night, directly after the two hour special addition of Mike Rowe's "They Took my Job!"



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