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June 10, 2019, 01:57:40 PM
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Can we all agree on a number for deleted post counts that's undeniably from spam?
You got it all wrong, that is number of deleted constructive posts  Roll Eyes

Why is everyone so angry? I thought this is what you wanted rather than posting in random places all over the forum about spam we can do it in one place now
Ok, lets do it your way then:

Bitcointalk username: SteveStake
From campaign: Stake signature campaign - manager
Accusation: Trolling spammer

Evidence 1: Report a Signature Campaign Spammer!

Evidence 2:
This is for all campaigns not only 1! Smiley Let's stay on topic and keep this thread for improving Bitcointalk as a whole!

Evidence 3:
Feedback for the Stake signature campaign should be posted here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110093

Let's not be spammers! Grin

Evidence 4:
Why is everyone so angry?
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June 10, 2019, 02:23:51 PM
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Are you firing shots at someone specific or is this more general? I've seen the thread about the stake campaign and honestly, any campaign that pays you PER 10 posts that you make will always incentivize spam so perhaps we should start there?

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June 10, 2019, 02:34:10 PM
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If people actually reported sig spammers in this thread (and it's subjective anyway) and the thread stayed unlocked long enough, it would probably be one of the longest threads in existence on bitcointalk.  Probably it'd get to 10X the size of the Wall Observer thread, and that's saying something.

The subjectivity I mentioned is the key.  People will name and shame just out of spite, and a thread like this wouldn't do much to help anyway.  That's what the merit system is for, and this is why campaign managers need to do a better job of keeping shitposters out of their campaigns.

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June 10, 2019, 02:39:50 PM
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This is for all campaigns not only 1! Smiley Let's stay on topic and keep this thread for improving Bitcointalk as a whole!

This reminds me of the late URSS propaganda.
It's called whataboutism.

You have clearly not opened this topic to clean up your campaign, your motive is quite obvious for one that has followed your history around here, what you try now is to somehow bury the avalanche of reports against stake between others campaigns (who undoubtedly have spammers also) in order to try and minimize the fallout, trying to point at others > They spam too!!!

At least half of the participants are spammers and about another half are shitposters.

You don't care about removing spammers as they do their job, every topic has it's first page filled with stake sigs for pennies, that's why you don't want to clean your campaign, you won't get good posters at those rates and you know it pretty well.

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June 10, 2019, 03:44:37 PM
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Why is everyone so angry?

You will never understand why everyone is angry on you. The problem is that these few people only want to earn themselves and they will never accept you, no matter what changes you make to make this a good campaign.

Indirectly or directly, all of them are begging to manage this campaign and earn  Cheesy




and now you want the "community" to do the work for you for free. GTFO.

Please resign!
I'm willing to do this job,

maybe you should make a change by doing your job. or you could give it to someone who actually can.

LOL I stopped reading here. How much will stake pay us to do your job?  Cheesy

Do I look like I am willing to do your job for you? Incompetent.

Lolzzzz ... Shocked


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June 10, 2019, 03:52:00 PM
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Why is everyone so angry?

You will never understand why everyone is angry on you. The problem is that these few people only want to earn themselves and they will never accept you, no matter what changes you make to make this a good campaign.

Indirectly or directly, all of them are begging to manage this campaign and earn  Cheesy




and now you want the "community" to do the work for you for free. GTFO.

Please resign!
I'm willing to do this job,

maybe you should make a change by doing your job. or you could give it to someone who actually can.

LOL I stopped reading here. How much will stake pay us to do your job?  Cheesy

Do I look like I am willing to do your job for you? Incompetent.

Lolzzzz ...Beggers  Shocked


only 1 of those users has actually offered his services. The others are just telling him to actually do his job. It's obvious he has not been doing his job and honestly the whole campaign needs a facelift.

Starting with changing rates, kicking out megaspammers, and getting the most bang for their buck but keeping the forum as clean as possible.

I would also offer my services to help with the problem, that doesn't make me or any of the other users beggars. We are looking to make some money sure, but it's not only for monetary gain. Some of us actually care about the forum. Some actually like to read the forum but get pissed off when they open a thread and see three pages of responses that make 0 sense before you get to 1 intelligent response.

Steve doesn't have to resign but he needs some help, otherwise we will not be seeing Stake signature soon. They will blacklist them and who knows it may also carry over to Primedice being blacklisted as well since they're connected.

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June 10, 2019, 04:05:36 PM
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only 1 of those users has actually offered his services. The others are just telling him to actually do his job. It's obvious he has not been doing his job and honestly the whole campaign needs a facelift.

The rest also want to manage this campaign. Lets give them a offer and see  Wink


I would also offer my services to help with the problem, that doesn't make me or any of the other users beggars. We are looking to make some money sure, but it's not only for monetary gain.

That's a decent way of applying for a Job. Good Luck !  Smiley


Steve doesn't have to resign but he needs some help, otherwise we will not be seeing Stake signature soon. They will blacklist them and who knows it may also carry over to Primedice being blacklisted as well since they're connected.

So if you don't hire us, We will fire you.    Wink
Also stake and primedice may lose the business and in coming days, these sites might close down if it is not managed by us (The Gang)  Tongue

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June 10, 2019, 04:13:06 PM
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I support Stakes initiative.


Where does forum rules demand to have a BM who checks the content of his poster for spam?
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June 10, 2019, 04:17:03 PM
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No one from “The Gang” needs to manage the campaign. I’m pretty sure everybody would be happy with any manager that actually cares about what their participants are posting.

Now, the fact that you and the other users need to pull out this “the gang” card everywhere and every single time in the forum makes your whole case (about the DT abuse and etc) go down. And no one is ever going to take you seriously because of that.

I actually dislike many of these users attitudes (so no asskissing here), but you are just plain stupid. Going full-troll is never the answer.

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June 10, 2019, 04:25:37 PM
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Why is everyone so angry?

You will never understand why everyone is angry on you. The problem is that these few people only want to earn themselves and they will never accept you, no matter what changes you make to make this a good campaign.

Indirectly or directly, all of them are begging to manage this campaign and earn  Cheesy




and now you want the "community" to do the work for you for free. GTFO.

Please resign!
I'm willing to do this job,

maybe you should make a change by doing your job. or you could give it to someone who actually can.

LOL I stopped reading here. How much will stake pay us to do your job?  Cheesy

Do I look like I am willing to do your job for you? Incompetent.

Lolzzzz ... Shocked



Interesting point I guess I never realised how many people are actually begging me in pm and Telegram for a job in this campaign since day 1 lol

I want to point out I'm not asking anyone to do this job. The point of this thread isn't so I don't have to clear out potential spammers. The point of this thread is to show I am making the effort to not only clean the forum from any spam in my campaign but also general spam at the same time. Let's be honest, the general post quality is super low with or without the Stake campaign. It's not even that I'm creating the people who are being called spammers because they were here long before the campaign and they will be here long after in other campaigns. Again I'm not looking to hire anyone I just noticed people are posting about some of the members so here's your place to put it where I'll surely see it and then be able to take action against those members. This is a good thing for the forum.


Are you firing shots at someone specific or is this more general? I've seen the thread about the stake campaign and honestly, any campaign that pays you PER 10 posts that you make will always incentivize spam so perhaps we should start there?

This is at nobody specific I just figured it could all be done at the same time for all campaigns. You can also be paid for 1 post, 7 posts, 12 posts ect it's not just in increments of 10

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June 10, 2019, 04:53:14 PM
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Let's be honest, the general post quality is super low with or without the Stake campaign.

To be more honest, it is not about the spam only, it is also about the greed for the managing of the BTC paying campaigns .

Just go to the altcoins bounty section, where Newbie managers are accepting even one liners shit posters plus the red trusted ones also. Stake might have 100 of users while those campaigns have 1000 of users. The condition is more than worse in those bounties.

Is any of the Gang members willing to help those managers also?  Are the gang members willing to take over those alt campaigns and manage them too (to stop the spam) ?  Why can't they help them.

No way, Why would they ? They are not willing to take altcoins (which have no value) to remove the spam.

Let's accept the truth. Everything is not as clear as it seems to be. Sad  

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June 10, 2019, 04:53:44 PM
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I have seen many users get tagged for account buying/selling, with a standard text like "Account selling encourages spam"

But this user, Steve Stake, is paying for spam openly. He really encourages it.

Omg, he pays for every 10 posts without a limit, accept everyone even with 0 merit and doesnt care about quality... that´s so crazy.

Shouldn't he be tagged as well, as he is clearly a person who encourages spam?

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June 10, 2019, 04:58:52 PM
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here's your place to put it where I'll surely see it and then be able to take action against those members. This is a good thing for the forum.

I don't know how many different ways you need to be told this, but no, it isn't. You already know who the members of your spam campaign are. You got some extra help just recently with the stats provided by QS and LoyceV. Fire the spammers. Start over if you need to. Hire help if you need to.

All you're doing here is trying to weasel out of responsibility and hide behind the overall spam issue. You're part of the problem. You're paying them for spam and other garbage posts and you're incentivizing such posts with ludicrous requirements and no oversight. Take care of your own issues and if you do a good job then you can tell us how to clean up the rest of the forum.
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June 10, 2019, 05:03:49 PM
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Hire help if you need to.

Why Hire help ?  Can't you help without getting paid ?  Roll Eyes

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June 10, 2019, 05:05:55 PM
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the fact of the discussion among the respected members of this forum about this signature campaign gives hope, unlike the yo*it campaign, when everyone was banned without warning
as legendary i confirm that i never dropped to spam in my messages, but we are still here for Mr. Profit, yeah ?
Stephen, you should change rules - high threshold of entry, high rewards, high requirements
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June 10, 2019, 05:22:07 PM
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Let's be honest, the general post quality is super low with or without the Stake campaign.

To be more honest, it is not about the spam only, it is also about the greed for the managing of the BTC paying campaigns .

Just go to the altcoins bounty section, where Newbie managers are accepting even one liners shit posters plus the red trusted ones also. Stake might have 100 of users while those campaigns have 1000 of users. The condition is more than worse in those bounties.

Is any of the Gang members willing to help those managers also?  Are the gang members willing to take over those alt campaigns and manage them too (to stop the spam) ?  Why can't they help them.

No way, Why would they ? They are not willing to take altcoins (which have no value) to remove the spam.

Let's accept the truth. Everything is not as clear as it seems to be. Sad  

Noone is offering to help for free, least from what i'm reading they aren't. I'm sure managers would be willing to help the piss poor bounty managers too, if they were paid fairly for the job. Most bounty campaigns want to pay slave wages or tokens to a manager which is why newbies get the jobs.

Show me 1 bounty campaign with 1000 users in their signature campaign. I haven't seen 1 yet but I suppose there could be 1.

The altcoin section is no different then the BTC sections. Many bounty companies have had their threads removed for multiple reasons. You're just bitter over your red profile obviously but you're not helping here.

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June 10, 2019, 05:42:16 PM
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Hire help if you need to.

Why Hire help ?  Can't you help without getting paid ?  Roll Eyes

Sure. Here is some free advice: terminate the campaign. Instant net benefit for the forum.

Other options require someone to do some actual work so appropriate compensation is appropriate.
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June 10, 2019, 05:56:22 PM
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Why are always the same people bashing campaigns and bringing themselves into the game as BM ?
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June 10, 2019, 06:01:45 PM
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Noone is offering to help for free, least from what i'm reading they aren't.

You know what make you better than rest of the gang members , You have the courage to speak the truth publicly.


Sure. Here is some free advice: terminate the campaign. Instant net benefit for the forum.

Other options require someone to do some actual work so appropriate compensation is appropriate.

This is now going too far.  Two of the things may happen soon

Either this campaign will be forcefully banned or one of you will be hired  Wink

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June 10, 2019, 06:07:30 PM
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Biggest scam BM's of all.
Only accepting their buddies and alts with their BS rules.
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