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June 11, 2019, 12:28:01 AM
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Never use your first email to sign up for a bounty or to airdrop (create a new special email for this purpose) and for sure don't share your scanned documents and selfies (KYC).

Before the crypto boom began, I was in internet marketing already for a few years, where the basic principle that I understood very quickly was: "BUILD YOUR EMAIL LIST".

People were able to pay up to 3,000$ (or even to kill  Wink) for a good list with 2,000 precisely targeted emails. That is about $1.5 per email (ONLY) and these rates are still actual.
I will not forget it, because every time you talked with someone from the industry, the same questions were asked: "...the dating list, how many lids you have?", "...the losing weight list still sells well? ", "and the crypto list...? ". The LIST was always the main subject.

We have crypto-times and people (FOR FREE) will give their email, documents, phone number, and they will do a selfie with 2 documents in hand when standing on the head  Wink if you only ask them to and offer in exchange not existing or almost always worthless in the end tokens.

Such a set of documents with selfies in the industry is called "Fullz" or "made-ups", you can get up to 20$ per piece. Only emails from airdrops and bounties can be sold instantly because they fit a couple of marketing niches perfectly: business, banking, money, crypto, stock, forex, and many others, even dating and sex is enough to separate young, old, women and men from data that we have. When we add that every airdrop has 20.000 paarticipants then the amount of money which can be made only on selling emails becomes very significant. Of course, selling is no problem and I will explain and even show where to do it a little later.

10 years ago and still these days is not easy to convince average people to leave email and subscribe to the list. Special websites are built or blogs created and targeted with specific content for a long period of time. Of course, google rankings and all that SEO shit, changing Google algorithms, linking, social media (social media proof) and many, even more complicated, time-consuming, expensive tricks are used just to get the EMAIL, subscription or in the best case both. All this hard work costs a lot of time, money and effort, so when we compare how easy it is to get emails from airdrops, then this is no brainer for many people. Especially, that airdrop participants will be very happy to subscribe to the list (which is needed to sell the emails further for even more) and to do a couple of additional tasks (airdrop requirements). At the start of airdrops, only the Bitcointalk account was enough to participate automatically for almost 3 years, with payout each month (Bitsend).

The conversion rate per click at the beginning of 2008 was still high, but with time it was worse and finally, only 3% of LIDS, left email address and only 1% become subscribers for a longer period of time. The business was coming to an end and big websites already developed to services, with more than a few main pages and additional subpages. Many of such services started to show up very fast (now this is already a standard). Small blogs and niche websites, started to become a thing of the past. Google started to change the algorithm frequently and this business, was not so easy anymore, although it seems to me, that it has never been. It was such a big expense of time, money and the results were mediocre. Suddenly, bounty and airdrops appeared, entire lists were available with emails for free, one could only copy it and already have a ready to sell list, with 20K people very interested in cryptocurrencies.

This is a targeted list which one can sell for big $$$ right away. For example here and this is just one of many websites I know. The professional name is Solo Ads Swaps (SAS) and the topic is old but hardly anyone knows about it.

https://udimi.com/my

And that's how it looks inside because one has to log in to see this. Look at the offers and how many customers bought this swaps, these are the best sellers from last week or two.
Prices in the corner for 1 email.



This is what one can do only with email and I know services on the Dark Web, which buy the entire sets of KYC data from bounties or airdrops, using the dark escrow services.
That's why I never participated in shit airdrops or bounties that required full KYC. Even to state offices, such scans are not sent, so why to airdrop or bounty, people have no imagination.

I warn you, every time you see airdrop or bounty, where is full KYC required, then 99% of the time, your documents are the most important commodity.

You can see how easy it is to sell only the e-mail, multiple times for a lot of money and I will not mention the entire sets of KYC documents, especially if you sell them for only half of the market price. Don't be stupid and think twice, why someone wants all these scans of your documents and if it's wise to send them to a stranger?

Never use your first email to sign up for a bounty or to airdrop (create a new special email for this purpose) and for sure don't share your scanned documents and selfies (KYC).

 
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I hear you, dude.  I have multiple throwaway e-mail addresses and don't often give any of them out when asked--and all of the spam I get on my gmail account gets routed very efficiently to my spam folder.  Gotta hand it to Google, they've at least done that one thing very nicely.

Amazing to me that people actually make money with mailing lists like that these days.  I remember in the early days of the internet if you got targeted for spam, your inbox was toasted indefinitely with ads for Viagra alternatives, penis enhancement, Nigerian prince scams, and all that bullshit that I thought would have been archaic by now.  Apparently not.

But as far as giving away any KYC info to these bounty people, SCREW THAT.  Most of them are at least as bad as any scammers you'll come across online, so there's no way anyone ought to be providing their real info to any of them.  You might as well put up all your dox on the darkweb yourself.

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June 11, 2019, 01:37:14 AM
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I remember this kind of enormous case bounty/airdrop with required KYC around 2017 bull run which even trash bounty or airdrop required you to pass KYC to get your rewards. Most of the airdrop forms before are using google form with enabled "must sign-in" before filling the form, then it's easy for them to farm different email addresses.

You can use these websites below to generate your disposable or throwaway email addresses:
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June 11, 2019, 01:56:11 AM
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There is this 10 minute email 10minutemail.com that you can use. It is temporary and it is disposable, that's how they describe themselves. You can use this when you just need to give an email address to verify something like if you register to a new site, buy tickets. Although, there are sites out there that doesn't allow such use of email and wan'ts email coming from a personal domain.

You can use these websites below to generate your disposable or throwaway email addresses:
https://temp-mail.org/en/
https://www.throwawaymail.com/en
https://www.guerrillamail.com/
Thank you for sharing this. Its a good alternative to what I am using now.

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There are many ways of verifying the identity of a person. The ICO, bounty and airdrops are collecting the personal identities illegally and selling them in the dark market.
That's why I'd rather talk to the bounty manager personally in a video call but never provide my personal documents.



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June 11, 2019, 02:18:39 AM
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There is this 10 minute email 10minutemail.com that you can use. It is temporary and it is disposable, that's how they describe themselves. You can use this when you just need to give an email address to verify something like if you register to a new site, buy tickets. Although, there are sites out there that doesn't allow such use of email and wan'ts email coming from a personal domain.

You can use these websites below to generate your disposable or throwaway email addresses:
https://temp-mail.org/en/
https://www.throwawaymail.com/en
https://www.guerrillamail.com/
Thank you for sharing this. Its a good alternative to what I am using now.
https://protonmail.com is also the place to create good junk mail. You can refer to it. I think even big Facebook guy sells personal data. ico projects they forced KYC users to manage, but they actually used other things like selling data or manipulating votes ...

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June 11, 2019, 02:23:48 AM
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Thanks for the information. To be exact, I am always against providing any personal details and documents in the name of bounty or airdrop. My point is why such thinks like KYC details are required for a firm. And who is responsible for misuse of our personal data or details? If these things are guaranteed, then it is okay. Otherwise not.

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Yup, I am always careful with this, I am also a person who works in marketing so I understand the issue of mailists, where marketers hunt mailists that are suitable for market share and targeted. Even worse if it really is sold illegally, therefore I have never used a primary email address as a condition of joining bounty, airdrop or something like that.

My advice is for others, always use a separate email and never use your primary email address to be published, it's your privacy and only certain people you can tell.


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June 11, 2019, 06:17:09 AM
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Thank you for all your suggestions in this review, very useful. For me KYC is something very important, and very careless if given without clear business. My question is, what about someone or many people who have already shared KYC that might have been very long? Of course it will be regret. Thank you in advance sir.

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June 11, 2019, 06:22:24 AM
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Passing your personal data to unknown persons is the most recent thing. Anonymity for me is in the first place and I will never pass the KYC procedure with my documents. E-mail can still provide, phone too, as there is a mail and phone number that I do not use. I can only provide my documents to the Bank, but I will never do it on the Internet. This is stupid. what a man can do. After all, it is not known what will happen to these documents later.
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June 11, 2019, 06:44:18 AM
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It's madness that people give away their personal details for just a few worthless tokens, if they really want to make money a better option would be to sell their own ID on the dark web themselves

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June 11, 2019, 06:55:40 AM
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Sincerely, one has to check it real well,  now because right from time,  giving out sensitive information details about one self carelessly can come back and hurt one to the marrows. There have been cases of people who have been declared wanted just because a crime was committed using these documents. I'll rather earn some few bucks rather than enter serious problems from my careless attitude.

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June 11, 2019, 07:27:00 AM
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We need to think about our security in sending the document to them, and we don't want to get bad things that might happen in the future. When the document was sent on the internet, then they can free to use our document to any purposes that they want, and I think they will not take responsibilities if somehow the data was stolen by other hackers and then it sold in the dark web. We need to prevent this by not sending any document if the program or the projects were not reliable, and they cannot protect the data.

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June 11, 2019, 07:33:47 AM
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I don't do KYC ON airdrops only on legit campaign and exchange, and about email, I just marked it as spam once an email was marked spam all the succeeding emails will go to the spam folders and if 10 or more people marked it, Gmail will just mark it spam and restrict or even ban that email sender.

 
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June 11, 2019, 07:40:03 AM
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I don't do KYC ON airdrops only on legit campaign and exchange, and about email, I just marked it as spam once an email was marked spam all the succeeding emails will go to the spam folders and if 10 or more people marked it, Gmail will just mark it spam and restrict or even ban that email sender.

Same here .  I dont also do a kyc on an airdrop or on a bounty but even on ico , exchange , gambling site or anything that requires a kyc i wont do them all because i dont have the required id for a kyc  but i do give my email because that is their requirement in order to verify your account and recieve important updates  . If they spam you can just mark them spam and that will fix the problem  .

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June 11, 2019, 07:53:45 AM
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I agree and I am tired of people arguing that KYC prevents duplicate accounts in bounties. The problem is that projects obtaining these sensitive documents is ripe for abuse. These documents are valuable and can be used for criminal or terroristic activities. It is time for people to take a stand against excessive KYC.
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June 11, 2019, 08:02:33 AM
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This is generally a good advice but I think this option may apply to some bounty campaigns that are worthy but in a case to case basis. The trick is to find some suitable bounty campaigns thru research and has justified the use of KYC for their bounty. With regards to airdrops, I think its more risky and is not necessarily needed most of the time.
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June 11, 2019, 08:07:49 AM
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Don't be stupid and think, why someone wants all the scans of your documents and if it's wise to send them to a stranger.


source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5152738.msg51423455#msg51423455

I'm always careless about things like this, I always believed that once I trust a project then running their kyc isn't supposed to be a big deal, but looking at this now. I'm highly enlightened. I didn't know they way harsh implications like this. Although I never did kyc for airdrops.

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June 11, 2019, 08:13:10 AM
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When reading this information, I also fear that personal information obtained from bounty will be used similarly like this.
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June 11, 2019, 08:13:48 AM
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I remember this kind of enormous case bounty/airdrop with required KYC around 2017 bull run which even trash bounty or airdrop required you to pass KYC to get your rewards. Most of the airdrop forms before are using google form with enabled "must sign-in" before filling the form, then it's easy for them to farm different email addresses.

You can use these websites below to generate your disposable or throwaway email addresses:
https://temp-mail.org/en/
https://www.throwawaymail.com/en
https://www.guerrillamail.com/

Thanks for these.
The question remains, why can't kyc be stopped?
Because right now from what I've learnt today, even if a project is legit, they may still be selling their participants identities to the dark market. How can all this be stopped. Not everyone knows of this. I mean I that have been in the Crypto business for 2 years is just knowing about this now, what about the rest?

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