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June 12, 2019, 04:25:12 AM
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This topic is to serve as the reference for flagging Vinsin as a scammer for the purpose of new flag system. 

On January 31, 2019 I agreed to loan Vinsin BTC0.007, which he was supposed to repay within a couple if days.  As of this time I have not been repaid.

Scammer's Profile: Vinsin - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=840084
Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5104698.msg49526004#msg49526004
Archive: http://archive.fo/HLjE1

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June 12, 2019, 04:33:31 AM
Last edit: June 12, 2019, 04:53:06 AM by suchmoon
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Flag for those who would like to support (or oppose) it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=31

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June 12, 2019, 05:53:32 AM
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This topic is to serve as the reference for flagging Vinsin as a scammer for the purpose of new flag system.  

On January 31, 2019 I agreed to loan Vinsin BTC0.007, which he was supposed to repay within a couple if days.  As of this time I have not been repaid.

Scammer's Profile: Vinsin - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=840084
Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5104698.msg49526004#msg49526004
Archive: http://archive.fo/HLjE1

This guy had one of the worse trust feedback back then. What more did you expect from him? Anyway let's see if I can flag the user. Sorry to hear your lose brother.

Edit:
I left him a red and also left support for your flag.

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June 12, 2019, 08:44:57 AM
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In this post, he acknowledged the debt (in a quoted post of his), and the repayment address, bc1q2nwf4njwkpeuyycx5a95nj6mf8m45djdk863xs which does not have a transaction receiving 0.01, the promised amount to be repaid.

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June 12, 2019, 02:03:21 PM
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This topic is to serve as the reference for flagging Vinsin as a scammer for the purpose of new flag system.  

On January 31, 2019 I agreed to loan Vinsin BTC0.007, which he was supposed to repay within a couple if days.  As of this time I have not been repaid.

Scammer's Profile: Vinsin - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=840084
Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5104698.msg49526004#msg49526004
Archive: http://archive.fo/HLjE1

This guy had one of the worse trust feedback back then. What more did you expect from him? Anyway let's see if I can flag the user. Sorry to hear your lose brother.

Edit:
I left him a red and also left support for your flag.

Yeah, I let him sweet talk his way into the equivalent of $23 (at the time.)  I figured if nothing else I would prevent an alcoholic from kicking his dog for a night or two.  Maybe.  I knew there was a significant risk of not getting repaid, but I guess I felt the experiment was worth it?  I was wrong.


In this post, he acknowledged the debt (in a quoted post of his), and the repayment address, bc1q2nwf4njwkpeuyycx5a95nj6mf8m45djdk863xs which does not have a transaction receiving 0.01, the promised amount to be repaid.

The fact that he offered to pay back 0.01 (which I declined) should have been a red flag to me.  I asked him to pay back 0.00735.  I did have an incoming transaction for BTC0.007 to that address in early February, but that was my first payment for the Bitblender campaign.  That transaction was posted by Hhampuz here.

To all who've supported the flag: thank you.


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June 12, 2019, 02:30:12 PM
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I wanted to write down (publicly) why I supported the flag in case I ever am asked about it long in the future.

I did notice some other transactions into that address, but I was able to reasonably conclude they were signature advertising (and other) payments.

Hopefully he will eventually return and repay you.

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June 13, 2019, 06:13:36 AM
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Yeah, I let him sweet talk his way into the equivalent of $23 (at the time.)  I figured if nothing else I would prevent an alcoholic from kicking his dog for a night or two.  Maybe.  I knew there was a significant risk of not getting repaid, but I guess I felt the experiment was worth it?  I was wrong.

Every lesson has a price. Consider it the price for it. Next time don't buy emotion instead of making decision based on the fact when it comes to directly dealing with money. That guy had a lot of red trust. The time you gave him loan, I think he had a case where he did not pay a website designer/developer for the work he (the IT guy) did for him.

Anyway, it's better to move on. In business there are risks, it's a part of the process.

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June 14, 2019, 04:06:08 PM
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@OP,

Are you sure this account does not belong to this scammer? VINSIN2

Archiving their last post history page here - http://archive.is/hGkuI

Notable references indicating a hacked older account :
http://archive.fo/1R93A#selection-883.1-917.43
http://archive.fo/Kz7JM#selection-1225.3-1259.138

Please check these links.

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June 14, 2019, 06:05:48 PM
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@OP,

Are you sure this account does not belong to this scammer? VINSIN2

Archiving their last post history page here - http://archive.is/hGkuI

Notable references indicating a hacked older account :
http://archive.fo/1R93A#selection-883.1-917.43
http://archive.fo/Kz7JM#selection-1225.3-1259.138

Please check these links.

It certainly looks like it.  Good catch, and thank you.  I'll tag this account as well.

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June 15, 2019, 08:00:11 AM
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Supported red flags since Vinsin broke written agreement with OP on the thread. And seems lent amount has not be returned yet. Although it was small amount but red flag is appropriate for him.

Sorry for your loss, but you shouldn't trust him since lot of DT's were not trust him and left negative feedback's. I don't think he will return lent amount.

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June 15, 2019, 04:25:09 PM
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It's totally clear.

Flag supported, negative trust feedback sent to VINSIN and negative trust feedback sent to VINSIN2 who has confirmed his old account username in the quoted link and in other messages from their post history where he-she also mentions VINSIN.

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