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Just for confirmation, if OP locks thread, that "box" won't be visible any more, or?
I have no idea. What happens if the thread is deleted? Well, I tagged a user by the name of iramsarwar. He was nuked later on, so the thread that I was using was deleted along with everything else. However, the trust score still had the # symbol and if you go into his trust history, people can still support or oppose my flag. (Not that it matter since he'll never post again, anyway.) To cover my ass, I posted the archive to one of his threads as a negative trust comment. I'm hoping it does not become necessary to open up a whole new thread just to give a newbie-warning tags to small time wannabe scammers. That's good to know. However, this shows another flaw in the system: Flags can't be edited. Flags can't be deleted. You can post 1 flag per user per 180 days. If the reference link is dead, the old flag is useless (regardless of support/opposition).
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So can anyone in support of this flag define the damages for me?
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June 13, 2019, 10:31:39 AM |
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So can anyone in support of this flag define the damages for me?
You of all people would probably be the last one I'd suspect to oppose this flag. It is a type-1 flag and it is very self explanatory (including the information you can find in this thread). Are you just opposing it for opposing?
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June 13, 2019, 10:49:34 AM |
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Are you just opposing it for opposing?
Did you just create the flag just to flag QS?
Your characteristic became like this: Yes boss, Yes boss. Come on, you are not a slave of anyone to obey their orders? Or are you? I am pretty much sure that Lauda asked you to create this flag because she was not able to create another one for the same user. It does not matter even if she doesn't (the ask). Your new image reflects the suspension. https://media.giphy.com/media/p4NXFVyrA1K1O/giphy.gif
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June 13, 2019, 11:50:07 AM |
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So can anyone in support of this flag define the damages for me?
You of all people would probably be the last one I'd suspect to oppose this flag. It is a type-1 flag and it is very self explanatory (including the information you can find in this thread). Are you just opposing it for opposing? So is that a no? Was this act years ago suspect and slimy? Sure. Was it anything worse than other so called trusted members have done? Absolutely not. He just happened to be the one who got caught. He was out of control and needed to be taken down a few pegs and that is exactly what happened. He misrepresented himself but he didn't steal from anyone. Furthermore this was a time in the forum where things were more fast and loose and there were no clear lines of what was acceptable. I don't condone it but I think this flag is motivated out of retribution rather than a genuine belief he intends to defraud anyone. As long as he can control himself I think the forum is better off with him than without him, and that is said as a former target of his. If we aren't providing an avenue for reform all that is going to happen is he s going to regress to his previous behavior. Giving him this opportunity means he has incentive now to earn back his reputation instead of just shit slinging. You can only beat some mules with a stick so many times before they stop caring, some times you need to try carrots too.
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Hhampuz
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June 13, 2019, 11:51:35 AM |
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So is that a no? Was this act years ago suspect and slimy? Sure. Was it anything worse than other so called trusted members have done? Absolutely not. He just happened to be the one who got caught. He was out of control and needed to be taken down a few pegs and that is exactly what happened. He misrepresented himself but he didn't steal from anyone. Furthermore this was a time in the forum where things were more fast and loose and there were no clear lines of what was acceptable. I don't condone it but I think this flag is motivated out of retribution rather than a genuine belief he intends to defraud anyone.
As long as he can control himself I think the forum is better off with him than without him, and that is said as a former target of his. If we aren't providing an avenue for reform all that is going to happen is he s going to regress to his previous behavior. Giving him this opportunity means he has incentive now to earn back his reputation instead of just shit slinging. You can only beat some mules with a stick so many times before they stop caring, some times you need to try carrots too.
I gave him an opportunity to even earn some a while back.. see where that got me? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
Do you honestly believe that the numerous baseless claims and accusations is something the forum really needs? The only reason I even hired QS in one of my campaigns was because of how much he does in the beginners section, which I do acknowledge and can even respect to certain level. But then it's like a 360 and he comes up with something new that is dodgy to say the least, mostly targeted at someone that would otherwise be considered "more respectable". Believe you me, if he came after you with something I would have the exact same reaction. The flag is needed, now that their profile doesn't look too shady.
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June 13, 2019, 11:58:21 AM |
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So is that a no? Was this act years ago suspect and slimy? Sure. Was it anything worse than other so called trusted members have done? Absolutely not. He just happened to be the one who got caught. He was out of control and needed to be taken down a few pegs and that is exactly what happened. He misrepresented himself but he didn't steal from anyone. Furthermore this was a time in the forum where things were more fast and loose and there were no clear lines of what was acceptable. I don't condone it but I think this flag is motivated out of retribution rather than a genuine belief he intends to defraud anyone.
As long as he can control himself I think the forum is better off with him than without him, and that is said as a former target of his. If we aren't providing an avenue for reform all that is going to happen is he s going to regress to his previous behavior. Giving him this opportunity means he has incentive now to earn back his reputation instead of just shit slinging. You can only beat some mules with a stick so many times before they stop caring, some times you need to try carrots too.
I gave him an opportunity to even earn some a while back.. see where that got me? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
Do you honestly believe that the numerous baseless claims and accusations is something the forum really needs? The only reason I even hired QS in one of my campaigns was because of how much he does in the beginners section, which I do acknowledge and can even respect to certain level. But then it's like a 360 and he comes up with something new that is dodgy to say the least, mostly targeted at someone that would otherwise be considered "more respectable". Believe you me, if he came after you with something I would have the exact same reaction. The flag is needed, now that their profile doesn't look too shady. None of this other jibber jabber matters. Provide me some evidence of damages and we will talk.
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Hhampuz
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June 13, 2019, 12:03:33 PM |
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None of this other jibber jabber matters. Provide me some evidence of damages and we will talk.
You do not think that the scam accusations, the obvious ramp up in posting over different topics/sections while wearing questionable signatures is harmful and potentially causes damage?
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June 13, 2019, 12:05:34 PM |
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Are you just opposing it for opposing?
Did you just create the flag just to flag QS?
Your characteristic became like this: Yes boss, Yes boss. Come on, you are not a slave of anyone to obey their orders? Or are you? I am pretty much sure that Lauda asked you to create this flag because she was not able to create another one for the same user. It does not matter even if she doesn't (the ask). Your new image reflects the suspension. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2Fp4NXFVyrA1K1O%2Fgiphy.gif&t=665&c=HszM8zhGsPDCWg) Good bye from mightyDTs
You can start posting from your main account now.
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June 13, 2019, 12:49:52 PM |
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So is that a no? Was this act years ago suspect and slimy? Sure. Was it anything worse than other so called trusted members have done? Absolutely not. He just happened to be the one who got caught. He was out of control and needed to be taken down a few pegs and that is exactly what happened. He misrepresented himself but he didn't steal from anyone. Furthermore this was a time in the forum where things were more fast and loose and there were no clear lines of what was acceptable. I don't condone it but I think this flag is motivated out of retribution rather than a genuine belief he intends to defraud anyone.
As long as he can control himself I think the forum is better off with him than without him, and that is said as a former target of his. If we aren't providing an avenue for reform all that is going to happen is he s going to regress to his previous behavior. Giving him this opportunity means he has incentive now to earn back his reputation instead of just shit slinging. You can only beat some mules with a stick so many times before they stop caring, some times you need to try carrots too.
I gave him an opportunity to even earn some a while back.. see where that got me? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
Do you honestly believe that the numerous baseless claims and accusations is something the forum really needs? The only reason I even hired QS in one of my campaigns was because of how much he does in the beginners section, which I do acknowledge and can even respect to certain level. But then it's like a 360 and he comes up with something new that is dodgy to say the least, mostly targeted at someone that would otherwise be considered "more respectable". Believe you me, if he came after you with something I would have the exact same reaction. The flag is needed, now that their profile doesn't look too shady. but then you took it away via non transparent means with no explanation at all? that is shady Now you are just laudas bitch and also a trust abuser. When you line up all of your recent actions 1. refusal to be transparent regarding your campaign selection/refusal 2. supporting a dox and risking the boards money and the safety of the boards treasurer 3. Trust abusing people 4. apparently stealing 0.5btc from a project? then we can see that QS does not look so bad in comparison to you does he? you are fortunate that QS has not started a flag for you hhampuz because that would seem to be perhaps worthy of a higher flag level than his own. To be fair QS escrowing "danger" seems less worrying that laudas own escrowing debacle.
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June 13, 2019, 01:18:47 PM |
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None of this other jibber jabber matters. Provide me some evidence of damages and we will talk.
You do not think that the scam accusations, the obvious ramp up in posting over different topics/sections while wearing questionable signatures is harmful and potentially causes damage? Irrelevant. You know damned well you aren't going to get anywhere with me with these semantic games. You don't seem to be internalizing the idea that the trust system should not be a tool for you to settle interpersonal disputes. It was used that way and look at the constant cluster fuck that resulted. The trust system is to help protect people from fraud and theft, not as a stick to hit your opponents with. He is free to be a shithead and make accusations all he likes. I don't endorse it, but all you are doing is further incentivizing it by trying to pretend this is about protecting others from theft when everyone knows damned well this is just about retaliation for him accusing you. Furthermore I really don't buy that you believe this caused you any demonstrable harm other than your agitation. All you are doing is harming your own reputation pushing this, more than he ever could with his accusation threads.
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Hhampuz
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June 13, 2019, 01:23:45 PM |
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None of this other jibber jabber matters. Provide me some evidence of damages and we will talk.
You do not think that the scam accusations, the obvious ramp up in posting over different topics/sections while wearing questionable signatures is harmful and potentially causes damage? Irrelevant. You know damned well you aren't going to get anywhere with me with these semantic games. You don't seem to be internalizing the idea that the trust system should not be a tool for you to settle interpersonal disputes. It was used that way and look at the constant cluster fuck that resulted. The trust system is to help protect people from fraud and theft, not as a stick to hit your opponents with. He is free to be a shithead and make accusations all he likes. I don't endorse it, but all you are doing is further incentivizing it by trying to pretend this is about protecting others from theft when everyone knows damned well this is just about retaliation for him accusing you. Furthermore I really don't buy that you believe this caused you any demonstrable harm other than your agitation. All you are doing is harming your own reputation pushing this, more than he ever could with his accusation threads. Alright so no need to discuss anything with you anymore again then. Since you'll choose to be blind.
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June 13, 2019, 01:28:36 PM |
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I believe that anyone dealing with Quickseller is at a high risk of losing money It's not true. I sent him first couple times more than 1btc total. Without any issue. so your statement is false or what you think is not true.
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June 13, 2019, 01:29:09 PM |
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I believe that anyone dealing with Quickseller is at a high risk of losing money It's not true. I sent him first couple times more than 1btc total. Without any issue. so your statement is false or what you think is not true. I'm sure some people got money back from bitconnect, TradeFortress and other scammers. What's your point?
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June 13, 2019, 01:32:47 PM |
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I'm sure some people got money back from bitconnect, TradeFortress and other scammers. What's your point?
I am not making any point here. I was just saying the truth. did he scam you? Just to confirm, you are not allowed to create a contract violation flag unless you were personally harmed, correct?
Correct.
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June 13, 2019, 01:33:15 PM |
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I'm sure some people got money back from bitconnect, TradeFortress and other scammers. What's your point?
I am not making any point here. I was just saying the truth. did he scam you? Just to confirm, you are not allowed to create a contract violation flag unless you were personally harmed, correct?
Correct. I did not create a contract violation flag, now did I?
Also, why didn't you leave positive trust for QS for sending him up to 1 BTC first? Last recorded trust you left for QS was in 2017 and you used Og as an escrow. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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June 13, 2019, 01:42:35 PM |
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Alright so no need to discuss anything with you anymore again then. Since you'll choose to be blind.
Unless you have any evidence to present then, no not really. Is that supposed to bother me that you are going to ignore me? You calling me blind could also be interpreted as you being wrong, but that is not possible now is it?
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