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June 13, 2019, 11:19:42 AM
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I don't know where to start.

Who i m?

I m a person who member of Turkish local forum for 3-4 years. I saw lots of things (tons of things), some of good some of bad.  I will tell you about our lovely small local forum. But i will not tell a 500 pages story about that,  its a brief story...

Our Local forum is a ville. Dogville,  did you watched Dogville movie from Lars von Trier?  Looking to our local forum from far away, its a lovely village. but when you look deep inside this villlage, it's a hell. like dogville.



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first of all;

Electing Trust members with alt accounts?  It's sounds good?  i think not, trust is not a thing like that.

You can't trust people that you don't relate to. But thousands of people in our local forum forced to trust they even know.


There are lots of hidden groups in our local forum, some groups for trading, some groups for chatting, some groups for bounties (for evaluate and critise bounties),  some groups for merit brotherhood,  some groups for spaming, some group for just lynching, some groups for trading accounts.

Common feature of all groups; they are hidden.  Nobody infects anyone in our lovely local forum, because of these hidden groups. Because anyone can be inside any of these groups.

Its a middle east culture. Its our realty.


There are 4 DT members ''elected'' in our local forum, by the organization of Matthias9515

Lydian
mhanbostanci
mindrust
PHI1618

lots of them same person or same group excluding mhanbostanci. (mhanbostanci is a different story, he is inside in these group for being DT. He have 2 or more legendary alts, yes DT member have lots of alts.)


One of the these dominant groups. - The undignifieds


shortly;
Lydian have 3-4 alts that i detected last year. AlyattesLydia and Lydian same person.

Matthias9515 is a bounty spammer with his alt accounts. he have 15-20 alts (Full-sr. mixed)

PHI1618, Lydian, mindrust in same group.  Halmater, 2run,  yussuf89,  by rallier,  Vispilio, RagingBull, tayfundeniz, cabsav, mindrust also in same telegram group. and they are maximum 3 or 4 people not much.

they sold 80-100 accounts from their farms that i know. before the merit, they were selling hero and legendary, now they are only selling their full members. they have tons of full member,

they have, 3 accounts for selling their farm accounts in marketplace. one of them is fullypak. They are using fullypak for farm accounts deal.




Mhanbostanci story;

I dont know him/her. I think He/she is not a bad person, But being Default Trust member with Legendary and senior alts? its a issue for people.


Everyone in our local forum knows mhanbostanci's alts.  For example Zz.  Everyone know in our village who the Zz is. It's a fun, and inside joke in our local forum.


a old member name is Zz_mhan, it's a parody account from 2018.  some messages from 2015, 2016, 2017 etc.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3492768.msg36597634#msg36597634

there is a fun topic for his alts too; he saying he is my nephew, we are in same room with 2 laptop.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1247502.5;

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1484902.msg14966460#msg14966460

there are nearly 40-50 post about mhanbostanci and Zz fun fact in our old forum from 2015. Imagine how small in 2015 our local forum was.

Everyperson know this funny reality.



The InterMerit gate in the marketplace.

Shh..
There are a gate in our village for merit abusing.  In marketplace there is a Wizard, its swapping merits to a alt-account to another alt-account. If a person have merit, the wizard finding this person, giving him a telegram name and asking him: hey give your merits, to these topics 2-2-1 and, 1 day later,  2-3 person will give merits to your account. (tg nick weekly changes)

Ahmad giving merit to Ali via wizard, 2 day later, Wizard find Omar, and Ali give some merit to Omar + Alt account via wizard,  Later, Omar giving merit to a Alt account via wizard, and alt account give merit to Khalil.  

alt-account to forum member  (no wizard)
Forum member To a alt account (wizard organise it)  

Why?

Because these group's alt-accounts, gave lots of merit each other, and these wizard swapping their merits from irrelevant and innocent accounts. In this way, the correlation between alt-accounts are dropping.

If you spend time in marketplace, you can easily to see these group's merit gateway and wizard account.  why they are trying to make a 2-3 alt-account to a merit source?  Bingo, The merit-gateway works great.









There are tons of things about our village, its a small text from a 500 pages book...


Trust system was half working but was a trustable system on our local forum, lots of people know each other via face to face. But now its a useless toy in a groups hands. And now %90 percent of people don't know these DTs.  they even not familiar their nick names.  Ask a randomly people who is mindrust? you can't find 5 people know him from Turkish forum.





TLDR;

We don't want

Lydian
mhanbostanci
mindrust
PHI1618


As a DT.

They are shit. They are a 2-3 people they have a alt-account army, they are a benefit group.   A DT member must be Trusted. You can't trust anyone who have legendary alts.



And We don't want erdogan.





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some space for other things.

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Ahmad giving merit to Ali via wizard, 2 day later, Wizard find Omar, and Ali give some merit to Omar + Alt account via wizard,  Later, Omar giving merit to a Alt account via wizard, and alt account give merit to Khalil.

Are you even serious? Grin You’re talking about Turkish forum so at least use some Turkish names when giving examples. Those names are arabic. Turkey has nothing to do with middle-east, you idiot. I don’t think you’re a Turk at all. Probably that’s the reason you can easily talk shit about the Turkish forum. You must be a pathetic, antisocial lonely person. It’s funny how you wasted your time to create a fake story. I enjoyed reading this joke.

Thanks, i think. lol
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Can you post the part about how you or someone else was harmed?

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Fuck off troll.

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shortly;
Lydian have 3-4 alts that i detected last year. AlyattesLydia and Lydian same person.

Kindergarten story I

I'm waiting for evidence! If you can not prove it, then ... no further comment, because I will not fall to your level!

PHI1618, Lydian, mindrust in same group.  Halmater, 2run,  yussuf89,  by rallier,  Vispilio, RagingBull, tayfundeniz, cabsav, mindrust also in same telegram group. and they are maximum 3 or 4 people not much.

Kindergarten story II

In which group? Red plain or just shut up!

And We don't want erdogan.

Kindergarten story III

What does this have to do with this forum? You are welcome to pursue politics elsewhere.
And we don't want terrorists!

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I just can speak about Lydian and he is posting in the German Board also and have done some good post there !
And on the german board there is no bad behave from his side .
The others i dont know .

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The only true thing in the story is that I'm an account seller Cheesy

This is real story about Turkish section.

First of all, he is not Turk. He is arab refugee who came from syria. Therefore, he can't write Turkish properly and he gave arabic names when he talked about Turks. His real name is mousthapha.

The arab refugee (mousthapha) is angry that he has failed to receive merit from trusted members of the local section.

And We don't want erdogan.

and, he want Erdoğan because when Erdoğan is gone we will kick rehberistan's arab refugee ass.

Rehberistan (ttombulyanak) is
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is it funny? You should give your merits to trusted users. Do your job carefully.



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Siz insanları eleştirirken açıklarınız olmadığını sanıyorsunuz halbuki eski üyeler tarafından tolere ediliyorsunuz.
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is it funny? You should give your merits to trusted users. Do your job carefully.
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Merits are not a certified "Truth Flag". Meriting a post does not imply that you agree with it, not that the content it states is true to the last punctuation mark. The content is decent enough, and serves the purpose to denounce a situation the OP believes to be true (which we now know is at least partially correct), whilst giving the opportunity to other readers to rebate or adhere totally/partially to the narrative.

Some posts are merited based on opinions, others based on proven facts. This one falls into the former category for now, and although it would be good to support it with clearer evidences, the OP’s content is open to debate on a situation that he has brought forward.

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There isn't anything to debate here. He is full of shit.

I merited that post because of his efforts. I liked the part where he mentioned that everybody is in a faction in the Middle East etc.

The only thing he was right about that you couldn't  count more than 5 people who knew me before the elections in the Turkish forum. The rest is outright bullshit.




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June 18, 2019, 09:37:16 AM
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its your localforum, you are part of it. why are your destroying your own local forum bro?  if they scam that's when you make actions, you could have posted it only in your localboard. learn from them because they are your fellow countrymen. you may live far from each other but time comes that you can start a meetups and together you may all be shaking hands.

 
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June 18, 2019, 09:42:29 AM
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I liked the part where he mentioned that everybody is in a faction in the Middle East etc.

Shut up kurd, Turkey isn’t in middle-east. move to your own country and live with goats.

its your localforum, you are part of it. why are your destroying your own local forum bro?  if they scam that's when you make actions, you could have posted it only in your localboard. learn from them because they are your fellow countrymen. you may live far from each other but time comes that you can start a meetups and together you may all be shaking hands.

You're an honorable man but mindrust and rehberistan are shit. I don’t want to talk about them, they lied many time about local section. Anyway, i wrote the true story.
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June 18, 2019, 02:09:47 PM
Last edit: June 18, 2019, 02:22:01 PM by Vispilio
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its your localforum, you are part of it. why are your destroying your own local forum bro?  if they scam that's when you make actions, you could have posted it only in your localboard. learn from them because they are your fellow countrymen. you may live far from each other but time comes that you can start a meetups and together you may all be shaking hands.


Some posts are merited based on opinions, others based on proven facts. This one falls into the former category for now, and although it would be good to support it with clearer evidences, the OP’s content is open to debate on a situation that he has brought forward.


There is a famous saying in Turkish, I'm sure also well known in English which goes like this:
"Even a broken clock shows the correct time twice a day".

The OP here is an obvious troll and his post is full of lies and holes, and yet I still find the post meaningful as it awakens many users including the Turks to the surprising depth and extent of the conspiracies surrounding a local section of the forum Smiley

I thank @electronicash @Loycev and @DdmrDdmr for their insightful comments, and for a much more nuanced and well grounded discussion of the intricacies of the Turkish section, I invite all readers to my Turkish boards focused merit source application thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5154371.0

looking forward to your valuable feedback.

 
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