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June 13, 2019, 11:39:34 AM
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We were given 3 days warning to withdraw. I had a few thousand Euro in my account. I was watching my withdraw addresses in Electrum. Today all of remaining coin was withdrawn. Blender seemed very professional before BestMixer was taken down. Now, I feel like the service left and didn't care whether people lost coin or not. This is seeming more and more like an exit scam.
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June 13, 2019, 11:56:46 AM
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If you lost money you can add a scammer flag (use the third option): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;addflag=229601

Post a link to the flag here so people can support it.

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June 13, 2019, 12:08:38 PM
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This thread is already there: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153756

If you lost money you can add a scammer flag (use the third option): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;addflag=229601
And the flag is already there: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=72

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June 13, 2019, 12:17:16 PM
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The flag they have created is option 1, which only results in a newbie warning. The creator of the topic you mentioned can't make a scammer flag because he didn't suffer any damages. The OP of this thread claims to have lost money, therefor he is allowed to create a scammer flag (resulting in a proper warning signal for other users).

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June 13, 2019, 01:01:13 PM
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I apologize for being 'New' but my issue is I have lost a lot of coin on three days notice. All of my coin was moved to these two address within the last hour give or take.

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If Blender is lurking, the service should log here and contact those that are owed. No one has perfect opsec and if LE was after the service I would think not stealing from former customers would be a priority to maintain further protection and good standing in the community.
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June 13, 2019, 01:29:11 PM
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If you lost money you can add a scammer flag (use the third option): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;addflag=229601

Post a link to the flag here so people can support it.

Follow those steps to open a scammer flag to make more people aware.

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June 13, 2019, 01:58:52 PM
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Hopefully I did this correctly

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=229601;page=iflags
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Looks good, well done! I have added support.

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June 13, 2019, 04:30:08 PM
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Seems they have already red flag by Darkstar_ and I support it as well. This wasn't wise decision closed website before withdrawal all of user fund. Their given time wasn't enough in my opinions. Sorry for them who have lost their fund with them. We are able to leave feedback and raise red flags only.

Darkstar opened a different flag (newbie flag). The flag made by OP is a scammer flag.
Got it and supported already.

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Seems they have already red flag by Darkstar_ and I support it as well. This wasn't wise decision closed website before withdrawal all of user fund. Their given time wasn't enough in my opinions.



Darkstar opened a different flag (newbie flag). The flag made by OP is a scammer flag.

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Thanks for your help mate, it's much appreciated. I can only hope Blender is waiting until heat blows over and logs here again. Regardless, running like that without at least moving to a new .onion address or something comparable leans me toward exit scam. I'm at a 0.67 loss as of now.
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June 13, 2019, 05:04:03 PM
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Correct link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=78

Sorry for your loss Sad, tough lessons to learn.

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I have supported your flag, and I am true sorry to hear about your loss  Sad
They should have given people more time withdraw their money. It's not like they had already been seized or something

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June 13, 2019, 08:27:42 PM
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What is the standard of evidence required to prove you're a victim and should be allowed?

Do we just take an OP's word for it?  Cause no one will ever lie on BTCT /s

I'm not trying to trash this OP I believe he lost money but since the new system requires proof of contract violation what counts as proof you're a victim and therefor have a legal claim as a victim?

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June 13, 2019, 08:33:57 PM
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What is the standard of evidence required to prove you're a victim and should be allowed?

Do we just take an OP's word for it?  Cause no one will ever lie on BTCT /s

I'm not trying to trash this OP I believe he lost money but since the new system requires proof of contract violation what counts as proof you're a victim and therefor have a legal claim as a victim?

I asked the same question in the flag thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153344.msg51457666#msg51457666

This is quite important seeing what happened to the cat.

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June 13, 2019, 10:54:58 PM
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What is the standard of evidence required to prove you're a victim and should be allowed?

Do we just take an OP's word for it?  Cause no one will ever lie on BTCT /s

I'm not trying to trash this OP I believe he lost money but since the new system requires proof of contract violation what counts as proof you're a victim and therefor have a legal claim as a victim?

What is the standard of evidence? I can try to post what I know is 'true' which I have been watching/dealing with today.

I've been attempting to find anyone that can contact Blender. I sent a PM to Hhampuz because it appears he may have the ability to contact the service outside of the now defunct .onion support page. (This was a few hours ago so I am waiting for a reply)

Here is the TXID and two address where my coin was moved today 6-13:

5c5c6348e93f70ab9d2e8138ca00251d182b57567b0d8ab0a67bf115abb8cf55

bc1q4xghsyec6a75e00w3fc5tkdhy97mche4fqsym7  0.71927023

(As I previously stated I lost over a few thousand Euro) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=436467.new#new

These are the two addresses that received over 10.54369583 Bitcoin today 6-13:

bc1q4xghsyec6a75e00w3fc5tkdhy97mche4fqsym7

bc1qny6dwae6m8p2ezhcph3h8e60wt86telrwg4wtd

So thinking about the service 1-3% fee why would that much Bitcoin be moved to those two addresses roughly two weeks after the site went down? If you export those address into Electrum, there is no way Blender made that much in fees a week after the service closed. Especially the larger transactions, 4 Bitcoin, 2 Bitcoin, etc. (That is where it makes this seem like an exit scam) You can see a bunch of small 'fee' transactions, but obviously the larger amounts belong to a former user of the BitBlender service.

In addition, I have an 'acquaintance' that was using BitBlender as a wallet. I know  Roll Eyes

Blender is still moving deposits made well after the service said it was shutting down. This is the information that was given to me after I watched my coin withdrawn from him.

There was a deposit made on 6-9 to this address:

3JNpdU5dD1PC94NvppAo1yfM75qWbDqAa3  0.05

On 6-13 this deposit was withdrawn to these two addresses in this TXID:

d9c83d4dbe8a7edcb8015924b0640ea8dc4ca201c7ca1d0ca7289ff7c30b3df0

bc1q6hm75c4ukt3x0p4cc2rcg5k8vk6yh3e04ue5jl  0.02774847

bc1q4xghsyec6a75e00w3fc5tkdhy97mche4fqsym7  0.02204822

If this isn't an exit scam why is Blender still moving coin that was deposited well after the service was 'supposed' to be shut down? If this isn't an exit scam why were users given a couple days to withdraw with no backup plan for people that had no idea it was shutting down? I can't imagine that with LE hot on a mixing services trail and knowing many of the addresses used by that service that continuing to move any coin would be good opsec if you as the owner of said business had concerns. All I am stating is something is definitely not right here and hopefully this proves it.

TBPH, I sincerely hope this isn't an exit scam and that one way or another someone can contact Blender which will give me the ability to email/message my PGP ownership so I can retrieve what is rightfully mine. That is truthfully all I care about because the service is clearly offline for good though still moving Bitcoin.

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June 14, 2019, 04:19:01 AM
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TBH I don't personally doubt you!  My question didn't really fit in your thread, it was meant as much more of a meta questions which suchmoon had posted already (in the right spot) and I hadn't seen yet.  I'll take the conversation to the right thread now.

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June 14, 2019, 05:04:31 AM
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I was watching my withdraw addresses in Electrum. Today all of remaining coin was withdrawn. Blender seemed very professional before BestMixer was taken down. Now, I feel like the service left and didn't care whether people lost coin or not. This is seeming more and more like an exit scam.
You have completed your responsibility by letting us know about that and honestly bitblender's recent activity doesn't smells good atleast.

My support submission done on the flag and expecting more there.   

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Hhampuz got back to me and unfortunately has no way to get in contact with Blender. I do hope everyone interested in the situation follows the addresses I posted. I also didn't mean to sound/come off like a jerk in any way. Losing this amount has been stressful and I can only keep my fingers crossed that Blender will eventually resurface at a later date, though I am not holding my breath.
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Do you have their bank account details?

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