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June 14, 2019, 08:40:52 AM
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 #1

I'm interested to hear some feedback from everyone on the recent changes to the Stake.com campaign!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110093.0


What changes have been made? Official campaign member list?


Last week's pay rate - $3, $2, $1, $0.50 per 10 posts (rank based)
Current pay rate - $11 per 10 posts (all ranks)


Last week's total members - 125
Current total members - 27


Last week's total posts - 1521
Current total posts - A lot less


Last week's paid post limit - ∞
Current paid post limit - 30 (10 per day)


Last week's min character count - 25
Current character count - 100


Last week's min post requirement - 0
Current min post requirement - 0


Official campaign members list
 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/127282xBJq5UtDH9vI8U96GNxBWN_3-3o-P6vTT44Fec/edit#gid=380619948



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June 14, 2019, 08:44:41 AM
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You do no have to advertise it this way. Update your campaign OP. People will read from there. By the way, I do not think this is a reputation board topic. Please move it to the Service Discussion board if I am not wrong.

PS: The campaign looks better now.

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Archive: http://archive.is/KYrhD

Since it says "A signature campaign for everyone!", I would like to see some member and Jr. Member participants too or change the topic title with something Full Member+

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June 14, 2019, 08:48:34 AM
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Last week's pay rate - $3, $2, $1, $0.50 per 10 posts (rank based)
Current pay rate - $11 per 10 posts (all ranks)
How could you pay the same rate to JR. and Hero/Legendary member?
Show some respect at least for Hero & Legendary members, though seniors deserve more than a Jr member imo.

 
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June 14, 2019, 08:49:50 AM
 #4

Are you paying on stake account or on users addresses?

If you are paying on users address and you add this address on the spreadsheet it will help to find abusers, some users use even 50 accounts here on the forum.



For sure this is a good step to reduce the spam generate from some members.

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June 14, 2019, 08:53:42 AM
Last edit: June 14, 2019, 09:10:49 AM by CryptoBry
 #5

Unfortunately, I am not anymore included in the list but that is fine since I already feel that I should go as it has become too toxic for me lately.  Anyway, without any drama further, thanks a lot to Stake and Steve for this wonderful opportunity -- no single payment missed and always on schedule. Despite some shortcomings (especially in the eyes of his many critics), Steve is a good signature manager for me.

 
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June 14, 2019, 08:56:08 AM
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Last week's pay rate - $3, $2, $1, $0.50 per 10 posts (rank based)
Current pay rate - $11 per 10 posts (all ranks)
How could you pay the same rate to JR. and Hero/Legendary member?
Show some respect at least for Hero & Legendary members, though seniors deserve more than a Jr member imo.

I can't win with pay rates can I? I over triple the pay for Legendary/Hero and still get hate? Why is everyone always so worried what someone else is making compared to them worry about yourself and you'll make more in the end faster and easier...


Are you paying on stake account or on users addresses?

If you are paying on users address and you add this address on the spreadsheet it will help to find abusers, some users use even 50 accounts here on the forum.



For sure this is a good step to reduce the spam generate from some members.

I pay all at once directly to Stake accounts

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June 14, 2019, 09:06:28 AM
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I suggest to fix the post per week like 20-25 post to reduce the spam in this forun you made a 17week and stil running.
Its also better if you hire a trusted campaign manager to manage your campaign like sir Yahoo or other reputable member in this forum.

Edit: Also update your current campaign to make participant being aware of your changes.

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June 14, 2019, 09:09:40 AM
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Are you paying on stake account or on users addresses?

If you are paying on users address and you add this address on the spreadsheet it will help to find abusers, some users use even 50 accounts here on the forum.
Steve is paying through the website,straight to our accounts.
Its real some even have hundreds and have a small time company in spamming sigs in this forum,the usage of direct bitcoin wallet payout will be useful to eliminate spam yes,its up to steve if he'll change the rules to that.

 
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June 14, 2019, 09:11:46 AM
 #9

Are you paying on stake account or on users addresses?

If you are paying on users address and you add this address on the spreadsheet it will help to find abusers, some users use even 50 accounts here on the forum.
Steve is paying through the website,straight to our accounts.
Its real some even have hundreds and have a small time company in spamming sigs in this forum,the usage of direct bitcoin wallet payout will be useful to eliminate spam yes,its up to steve if he'll change the rules to that.

Why would someone be dumb enough use the same address multiple times on different accounts though?

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June 14, 2019, 09:12:15 AM
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Last week's pay rate - $3, $2, $1, $0.50 per 10 posts (rank based)
Current pay rate - $11 per 10 posts (all ranks)
How could you pay the same rate to JR. and Hero/Legendary member?
Show some respect at least for Hero & Legendary members, though seniors deserve more than a Jr member imo.

I can't win with pay rates can I? I over triple the pay for Legendary/Hero and still get hate? Why is everyone always so worried what someone else is making compared to them worry about yourself and you'll make more in the end faster and easier...



if you take a look at other signature campaigns you never saw the pay rate the same as other ranks

Why would someone be dumb enough use the same address multiple times on different accounts though?

actually there are many accounts found with the same address maybe you can read this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.0
it countains many account that use the same bitcoin address

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June 14, 2019, 09:20:56 AM
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I suggest for the rate to be not uniform, every rank should have different rate.

I guess the following rate would be competitive enough, you can already have a good poster that will be loyal to your campaign.

Here's my suggestion for 10 posts per rank.

Hero - 20 usd
Sr - 15 usd
Member - 11 usd




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June 14, 2019, 09:36:40 AM
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Current pay rate - $11 per 10 posts (all ranks)
Unrealistic pay rate. All rank same rate isn't wise decision. All user experiences isn't same. However its depend on you how are you going to pay participants, we can't make comment about it.

Main thing is monitor replies of your participants how their replies/post are potential. At least you have to monitor spammers as well in order to get good results.

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June 14, 2019, 09:43:02 AM
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Last week's pay rate - $3, $2, $1, $0.50 per 10 posts (rank based)
Current pay rate - $11 per 10 posts (all ranks)
How could you pay the same rate to JR. and Hero/Legendary member?
Show some respect at least for Hero & Legendary members, though seniors deserve more than a Jr member imo.
I can't win with pay rates can I? I over triple the pay for Legendary/Hero and still get hate? Why is everyone always so worried what someone else is making compared to them worry about yourself and you'll make more in the end faster and easier...
First of all, I'd like to say that my earlier post was not "hate", it was "logic".
Second, I haven't said anything about the pay rate you are paying per 10 posts, I said about the "comparison" between Jr and Senio/Hero/Legendary... It may also go to member/full member rank.
Third, it is your campaign and you have the right to pay whatever amount you want to pay to whatever rank. We, as a member of this forum, have the right to comment about it, either positive or negative.

I do appreciate the steps you have taken to cut out the spam. A big thanks to you!

But still, I'd say that you have logically underestimated Senior, Hero & Legendary members when compared with Jr/Member/F.Member.

 
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June 14, 2019, 09:45:01 AM
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Last week's pay rate - $3, $2, $1, $0.50 per 10 posts (rank based)
Current pay rate - $11 per 10 posts (all ranks)
How could you pay the same rate to JR. and Hero/Legendary member?
Show some respect at least for Hero & Legendary members, though seniors deserve more than a Jr member imo.
I can't win with pay rates can I? I over triple the pay for Legendary/Hero and still get hate? Why is everyone always so worried what someone else is making compared to them worry about yourself and you'll make more in the end faster and easier...
First of all, I'd like to say that my earlier post was not "hate", it was "logic".
Second, I haven't said anything about the pay rate you are paying per 10 posts, I said about the "comparison" between Jr and Senio/Hero/Legendary... It may also go to member/full member rank.
Third, it is your campaign and you have the right to pay whatever amount you want to pay to whatever rank. We, as a member of this forum, have the right to comment about it, either positive or negative.

I do appreciate the steps you have taken to cut out the spam. A big thanks to you!

But still, I'd say that you have logically underestimated Senior, Hero & Legendary members when compared with Jr/Member/F.Member.

You mean I'm over estimating the lower ranks? because this is over 3x what Legendary/hero was getting over 5x what Sr was getting. A Jr member can be a higher quality poster than a Legendary the only reason people do the pay gaps is for the banner

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June 14, 2019, 09:49:47 AM
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Last week's pay rate - $3, $2, $1, $0.50 per 10 posts (rank based)
Current pay rate - $11 per 10 posts (all ranks)
How could you pay the same rate to JR. and Hero/Legendary member?
Show some respect at least for Hero & Legendary members, though seniors deserve more than a Jr member imo.

Mind your own business. They can pay the same rate to anyone ? By the way, you are a hero member, let us know how can we respect you ?  Wink

Its also better if you hire a trusted campaign manager to manage your campaign like sir Yahoo or other reputable member in this forum.

Oh You are wearing SIR Yahoo Signature (Windice) already and you want all of the campaigns should be Manged by SIR Yahoo.

SIR  Grin

Here's my suggestion for 10 posts per rank.
Hero - 20 usd
Sr - 15 usd
Member - 11 usd

Become a campaign Manager and the implement these suggestions in your campaign and do not spam here.  Smiley


Main thing is monitor replies of your participants how their replies/post are potential. At least you have to monitor spammers as well in order to get good results.

Oh really ? You are wearing sportsbet signature.  They should monitor your posts as you are just spamming the thread. Spammers are already been handled by Steve in good way.  No need for you to spam and get pay for this spam post.  Smiley



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June 14, 2019, 09:52:51 AM
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Had a blast working with Steve for the last couple of months and I thought he was a decent manager overall due to the following factors :

- Always made payments on time without any long delays
- Acted professionally with everyone
- Cleared any queries immediately majority of the time

Only issue is that he tried doing something different(No limit posting in almost all boards etc) which is pretty gutsy due to the money constraints involved and he try his best to reduce spam wherever possible(Even in the telegram group), but the rules could have been stricter(Accepting fewer quality participants and higher rates per post) which could have reduced spam even further.

Don't really care what others feel about him. In my opinion, he tried his best to be a decent campaign manager at the end of the day and never failed to make a single payment which is why I would gladly join any of his future campaigns. So many members of this forum basically ganged up on him in a pathetic manner excluding a select few instead of advising him in a constructive manner. This is a bit similar to the aTriz situation who was another manager that I worked with in the past and am sad to see his current state.

Personally, I feel that I was removed due to many of my recent(Months) posts getting deleted(Somewhere around 20) which was weird since I never felt post deletion was the primary barometer to judge a poster in this forum unless the number of posts being deleted are crazy high. Honestly, I had a great time working on this campaign promoting Stake and winning the contests regularly and don't have any qualms against anyone.

Looking forward to working with you again in the future Steve. Thank you!

 
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June 14, 2019, 09:56:04 AM
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Here's my suggestion for 10 posts per rank.
Hero - 20 usd
Sr - 15 usd
Member - 11 usd

Become a campaign Manager and the implement these suggestions in your campaign and do not spam here.  Smiley

OP is asking for forum members feedback, I was just giving mine, it does not have to be implemented if he don't agree with it. Peace mate.

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June 14, 2019, 10:02:34 AM
Last edit: June 14, 2019, 10:15:52 AM by SteveStake
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 #18

Last week's pay rate - $3, $2, $1, $0.50 per 10 posts (rank based)
Current pay rate - $11 per 10 posts (all ranks)
How could you pay the same rate to JR. and Hero/Legendary member?
Show some respect at least for Hero & Legendary members, though seniors deserve more than a Jr member imo.

Mind your own business. They can pay the same rate to anyone ? By the way, you are a hero member, let us know how can we respect you ?  Wink

Its also better if you hire a trusted campaign manager to manage your campaign like sir Yahoo or other reputable member in this forum.

Oh You are wearing SIR Yahoo Signature (Windice) already and you want all of the campaigns should be Manged by SIR Yahoo.

SIR  Grin

Here's my suggestion for 10 posts per rank.
Hero - 20 usd
Sr - 15 usd
Member - 11 usd

Become a campaign Manager and the implement these suggestions in your campaign and do not spam here.  Smiley


Main thing is monitor replies of your participants how their replies/post are potential. At least you have to monitor spammers as well in order to get good results.

Oh really ? You are wearing sportsbet signature.  They should monitor your posts as you are just spamming the thread. Spammers are already been handled by Steve in good way.  No need for you to spam and get pay for this spam post.  Smiley



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Don't you see everyone here is spamming and yet they are ignored because they are not wearing stake signature  Grin

I can't win no matter what I do unless I sacrifice my life and bank account and even then someone will complain a Jr member got an extra few dollars. It's not even because people are unhappy I put the rates 3-5x higher, the highest they've ever been. It's just they think they're so much better than other people and need to be above them based on a rank that means nothing. I've realised the only thing ranks give are a better banner not quality of post. I'm a member and I know I can make higher quality posts than all of these spammers with hero/legendary that fill Bitcointalk


Had a blast working with Steve for the last couple of months and I thought he was a decent manager overall due to the following factors :

- Always made payments on time without any long delays
- Acted professionally with everyone
- Cleared any queries immediately majority of the time

Only issue is that he tried doing something different(No limit posting in almost all boards etc) which is pretty gutsy due to the money constraints involved and he try his best to reduce spam wherever possible(Even in the telegram group), but the rules could have been stricter(Accepting fewer quality participants and higher rates per post) which could have reduced spam even further.

Don't really care what others feel about him. In my opinion, he tried his best to be a decent campaign manager at the end of the day and never failed to make a single payment which is why I would gladly join any of his future campaigns. So many members of this forum basically ganged up on him in a pathetic manner excluding a select few instead of advising him in a constructive manner. This is a bit similar to the aTriz situation who was another manager that I worked with in the past and am sad to see his current state.

Personally, I feel that I was removed due to many of my recent(Months) posts getting deleted(Somewhere around 20) which was weird since I never felt post deletion was the primary barometer to judge a poster in this forum unless the number of posts being deleted are crazy high. Honestly, I had a great time working on this campaign promoting Stake and winning the contests regularly and don't have any qualms against anyone.

Looking forward to working with you again in the future Steve. Thank you!

Thank you and I wish you the best of luck with your next campaign

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June 14, 2019, 10:03:00 AM
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What changes have been made? Official campaign member list?


Last week's pay rate - $3, $2, $1, $0.50 per 10 posts (rank based)
Current pay rate - $11 per 10 posts (all ranks)
Hmm, for me that's a lot better compare to the previous pay rates. At least the participants will now become more motivated to create quality posts because of the reward increase.
Last week's total members - 125
Current total members - 27
There will be a two sides of the story regarding this matter. The 27 who got chosen will be glad of course but on the other hand the remaining which are all eliminanted will surely felt bad after reading this news (including me as well). Honestly, I'm worrying a little bit because there's a tendency for you to get bashed by members you removed so prepare for it and I hope you can handle them in all peace. Don't get me wrong, I'm not scaring you I'm just saying the upcoming possible scenarios.
Last week's total posts - 1521
Current total posts - A lot less
That's because of the lower ranked members you hired. As we look on the previous spreadsheet (why I can't gind it any longer?) most of them wasn't able to make even a single post. I don't exactly know the reason behind that but that's the sad truth.
Last week's paid post limit - ∞
Current paid post limit - 30 (10 per day)

Last week's min character count - 25
Current character count - 100
That was I great move because you are now complying to a typical signature campaign rules Smiley. I foresee that from now on this campaign will be more less toxic simply because participants are no longer pressured of creating tons of posts for the sake of increasing the reward they could get. This means less spams and shitposts.

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/127282xBJq5UtDH9vI8U96GNxBWN_3-3o-P6vTT44Fec/edit#gid=380619948

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Honestly I am very sad that my name wasn't on the list. Yeah! I'm aware of my lapses as your participant but it wasn't my intention at all. Sorry if I only made 5 posts last week, I already told you my reason but let me repeat it for the rest to know. It happened because I got sick that's why I don't have the energy to make greater number of posts (in which you understand, thanks) and for that I'm really sorry. I'm not saying this to make an excuse I'm just stating my own side to clear once and for all that I'm not a spammer, a shitposter or a member with poor attitude. I hope you will give me a chance once again to prove you that I'm also deserving to become part of your campaign.

This post is a proof that I'm not a shitposter. I consider this post as a quality post. I know it is not so technical/geeky like we can see in the Technical Discussions Section but at least this is not a shitty post. If you still demand a post with even more quality then I will gladly give you one with as much as I can. I hope you will consider me again, thanks Smiley.

 
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June 14, 2019, 10:49:42 AM
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Current pay rate - $11 per 10 posts (all ranks)
Some thoughts:
If you put the rate in the campaign's topic title, you'll get many applications.
According to Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns, these are the highest pay rates for lower ranks. Once word gets out, you can expect many applications including alt-accounts. I know from experience that checking posts from Members is a lot of work, as most of them aren't worth it. Jr. Members will be even worse.
You can make it less work by using Merit for selection first. If you happen to find a rare Jr. Member with good posts but no Merit, please report them here so we can Merit them.
You have the rare opportunity to mean something for lower ranks, it would be really nice to see that used to reward the rare good users. Just imagine when a Member wearing Stake signature means he's a great poster!

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