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June 17, 2019, 09:46:05 AM
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Hey everyone over the last two days my miner has recorded I have found two blocks while solo mining bitcoin sv on bsod.pw , the problem being that I have not received any payouts for them both which should total 25 Bec coins which is fair amount of money! I emailed their support and they suggest it is only a possible block recorded? How can I find out as I think they maybe scamming me out of my coins ?? Any help would be greatly appreciated cheers I have screen shots but don’t know how to post them on here
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June 17, 2019, 09:47:51 AM
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Well... i guess we'll need a bit more info about your setup... You say you were solo mining, do you mean you are running a daemon on your local network and connect to this daemon, or are you mining on one of those solo mining pools?

EDIT: never mind, i just re-read your post and realised you're mining on a solo mining pool... I completely missed this on the initial reading of your post Smiley

If you're mining on a solo mining pool, are you sure you're not finding shares instead of having solved a block?



About the images: upload them to a free image hosting service that allows hotlinking, then post the link... The images won't show up because you need a higher rank in order to show images in your post, but at leas we'll be able to see your screenshots.

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June 17, 2019, 09:49:23 AM
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Hey everyone over the last two days my miner has recorded I have found two blocks while solo mining bitcoin sv on bsod.pw , the problem being that I have not received any payouts for them both which should total 25 Bec coins which is fair amount of money! I emailed their support and they suggest it is only a possible block recorded? How can I find out as I think they maybe scamming me out of my coins ?? Any help would be greatly appreciated cheers I have screen shots but don’t know how to post them on here

It is possible that your "found block" was orphaned in which case there is no payout.

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June 17, 2019, 09:57:21 AM
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Can you tell me how to post a screen shot so you can have a look it says on my antminer found blocks 2 which both have come in the last 48 hrs I’m sure it’s not just shares as I’ve been mining a little while now and mined other coins and never had a payout problem when I’ve hit a block until now. How can I check if they were orphaned blocks or not?
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June 17, 2019, 10:00:46 AM
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Can you tell me how to post a screen shot so you can have a look it says on my antminer found blocks 2 which both have come in the last 48 hrs I’m sure it’s not just shares as I’ve been mining a little while now and mined other coins and never had a payout problem when I’ve hit a block until now. How can I check if they were orphaned blocks or not?

Use an image server like imgur.com and post the link here.

You don't have enough merit and activity yet to post images.

Bitcoin SV is experiencing some serious issues with re-orgs.
https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2019/04/19/bitcoinsv-reorg-blockchain-orphan-enormous/

It is not a coin I would support as a miner but it does provide some interesting data.

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June 17, 2019, 10:14:46 AM
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Hi guys here is the link http://imgur.com/JGxzcRg
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June 17, 2019, 10:23:18 AM
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Hi guys here is the link http://imgur.com/JGxzcRg



Are you sure that the found blocks are not from your fallover pools ? It looks like it had some getworks from them.

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June 17, 2019, 10:28:05 AM
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As I said they only showed up the last two days and the last shares from the failover pools was well over 72 hrs and if you search occ block explorer ect no blocks have been paid out to those addresses either so am pretty confident they are not what has registered as blocks found
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June 17, 2019, 10:34:09 AM
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https://imgur.com/gallery/8yqXGQe Here’s the failover balance on bsod
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June 17, 2019, 10:41:05 AM
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https://imgur.com/gallery/14myQwn Here’s the link to the bsod.pw wallet balance when I should have found 2 blocks but not paying it?
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June 17, 2019, 11:03:42 AM
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source: https://support.bitmain.com/hc/en-us/articles/360013577314-Miner-status-page-explained
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Number of the block that the miner has helped the pool to solve.

Note that the numbers don't mean you are getting the full block payment because it's a pool mining. Payout will be based on how much work your miner has contributed to solve this block (if reported).
source: https://support.bitmain.com/hc/en-us/articles/360013577314-Miner-status-page-explained

Foundblocks doesn't mean that you've found a nonce for which the sha256d hash of 2 blockheaders is under the current target, it just means that the pool you're mining on has solved 2 blocks while you were submitting shares. Since you are solo mining, you will not receive any income for those shares. If you were not solo mining, you would have received a small part of the profits of those 2 blocks once they had matured....

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June 17, 2019, 11:08:04 AM
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https://imgur.com/gallery/9TSw6cm I’m solo mining on bsod so any blocks should be paid out to me minus their 1% fee?
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June 17, 2019, 11:10:33 AM
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https://imgur.com/gallery/9TSw6cm I’m solo mining on bsod so any blocks should be paid out to me minus their 1% fee?

yes... But only IF you solve a block... The "Foundblocks" statistic on your antminer overview does not mean YOU have solved a block, it just means that 2 other people using the same pool found a block... And since you were solo mining, you'll not receive a part of the profits...

The odds of you having solved 2 blocks with a 2.9 Th ASIC in just 19 days would have been astronomically small anyways...
https://www.coincalculators.io/coin/bitcoin-cash-sv?Hashrate=2.6&HashFactor=Th&Watt=4000&ElectricityPrice=0.1&PoolFee=0&HardwareCost=0&LH=&Difficulty=24
estimated earnings: 1.46098229 SV a year... Block reward = 12.5 SV, so the average time to find 2 blocks with 2.9 Th at this moment in time (at current difficulty) would be around 17 years...

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June 17, 2019, 11:14:40 AM
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https://imgur.com/gallery/9TSw6cm I’m solo mining on bsod so any blocks should be paid out to me minus their 1% fee?

yes... But only IF you solve a block... The "Foundblocks" statistic on your antminer overview does not mean YOU have solved a block, it just means that 2 other people using the same pool found a block... And since you were solo mining, you'll not receive a part of the profits...

Incorrect.

Foundblocks are on the individual miner GUI. It means that actual miner has found a block. It doesn't however show if it was an orphaned block or on which pool it was found (in this case both fallover pools show some activity).

The found block could be on a shorter chain in which case it is orphaned or it could be reported to a node after the block which makes up the chain was found - in which case it was orphaned.


The odds of you having solved 2 blocks with a 2.9 Th ASIC in just 19 days would have been astronomically small anyways...
https://www.coincalculators.io/coin/bitcoin-cash-sv?Hashrate=2.6&HashFactor=Th&Watt=4000&ElectricityPrice=0.1&PoolFee=0&HardwareCost=0&LH=&Difficulty=24
estimated earnings: 1.46098229 SV a year... Block reward = 12.5 SV, so the average time to find 2 blocks with 2.9 Th at this moment in time (at current difficulty) would be around 17 years...

I do agree that it is very unlikely that you found a valid block - let alone 2
It is more likely that it may have been mining on an invalid chain or on one of the fallovers.

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June 17, 2019, 11:15:47 AM
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EDIT: after re-reading the defenition, xtraelv might be correct tough...

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June 17, 2019, 11:18:17 AM
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From my experience when ever I have solo mined other altcoins and my ant miner has recorded a block in the blocks found I have received the full block payment minus fees? If you click on their recorded blocks that the pool has found the last one was two weeks ago https://imgur.com/gallery/WGbM8nN seems like I’ve been scammed tbh . Is there anyway I can double check or find out?
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Incorrect.

Foundblocks are on the individual miner GUI. It means that actual miner has found a block. It doesn't however show if it was an orphaned block or on which pool it was found (in this case both fallover pools show some activity).

The found block could be on a shorter chain in which case it is orphaned or it could be reported to a node after the block which makes up the chain was found - in which case it was orphaned.

That's not what bitmain's support page told me...

source: https://support.bitmain.com/hc/en-us/articles/360013577314-Miner-status-page-explained
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Number of the block that the miner has helped the pool to solve.

Note that the numbers don't mean you are getting the full block payment because it's a pool mining. Payout will be based on how much work your miner has contributed to solve this block (if reported).

FoundBlocks
Number of the block that the miner has helped the pool to solve.


The miner found the blocks but due to the payout methods of some pools th payout is based on shares - not on blocks found.

The blocks found on the GUI of the miner are the actual blocks found by that specific miner (Trust me - I've owned a fair amount of antminers and innosilicon miners.)

It doesn't however show if they are valid blocks - only the network nodes will determine that. Orphans don't always show since it may be a delayed found block or the chain on which it was found may be invalid.

An invalid chain may have very low difficulty - which may explain that blocks were easily found.



Your difficulty looks too low. The Bitcoin SV difficulty is currently 159,411,217,135 https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin%20sv/

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June 17, 2019, 11:25:26 AM
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FoundBlocks
Number of the block that the miner has helped the pool to solve.


The miner found the blocks but due to the payout methods of some pools th payout is based on shares - not on blocks found.

The blocks found on the GUI of the miner are the actual blocks found by that specific miner (Trust me - I've owned a fair amount of antminers and innosilicon miners.)

It doesn't however show if they are valid blocks - only the network nodes will determine that. Orphans don't always show since it may be a delayed found block or the chain on which it was found may be invalid.

An invalid chain may have very low difficulty - which may explain that blocks were easily found.




At the time you were writing this reply, i had already edited my post... You are right, i misread the defenition... In my country, the electricity price is so high i stopped mining after my U2's were no longer profitable, so i have never actually used the web interface referenced by the OP and i was going on a misinterpretation of the defenition given my bitmain.

Sorry for the confusion!

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June 17, 2019, 11:27:02 AM
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I have checked the failover addresses on block explorer and nothing comes up to say that they found a block and also as I said earlier the last shares for the failover at the time where more than 72 hrs ago and the two blocks came in the last 48hrs or so so I don’t think that the blocks found would be from those . Is there anyway to find out whether they were orphaned or on an invalid chain or actually I did get lucky and find them??
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June 17, 2019, 11:30:39 AM
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I have checked the failover addresses on block explorer and nothing comes up to say that they found a block and also as I said earlier the last shares for the failover at the time where more than 72 hrs ago and the two blocks came in the last 48hrs or so so I don’t think that the blocks found would be from those . Is there anyway to find out whether they were orphaned or on an invalid chain or actually I did get lucky and find them??

I think mocacinno is correct and identified the problem here:


The odds of you having solved 2 blocks with a 2.9 Th ASIC in just 19 days would have been astronomically small anyways...
https://www.coincalculators.io/coin/bitcoin-cash-sv?Hashrate=2.6&HashFactor=Th&Watt=4000&ElectricityPrice=0.1&PoolFee=0&HardwareCost=0&LH=&Difficulty=24
estimated earnings: 1.46098229 SV a year... Block reward = 12.5 SV, so the average time to find 2 blocks with 2.9 Th at this moment in time (at current difficulty) would be around 17 years...


I think this is your issue:




Your difficulty looks too low. The Bitcoin SV difficulty is currently 159,411,217,135 https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin%20sv/



I don't think you are connecting to a valid version of the bitcoin SV chain.

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