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June 17, 2019, 08:00:22 PM
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From what I see everybody is quoting the original post, with image. That helps Ver, not Bitoin; some will not read the posts and will just see the highlights, you know that, right?
I'm glad the OP didn't include also link to the article, then Ver wold have got some free backlinks too.

Ver does this bad propaganda for almost 2 years now. I'm unpleasantly surprised that there was no good solution found yet against him.
At least I've reported it to WOT for misleading content...
I'm actually saying the same thing where instead on reading up someones post or replies but those images is always been quoted which is painful in the eyes.
I'm aint surprised for this shit propaganda not only to Ver but also into others as well who do still continue to attack BTC.This is indeed a very misleading content that should really be
reported but even though if there were no actions taken,people/community does know on whats the truth the only sad thing that pure newbies would really be misleaded.

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June 17, 2019, 08:28:55 PM
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I view Roger Ver as a somewhat passable man sans the shots he had been firing bitcoin ever since he had this miscommunication with the core devs. All of what he does is basically just him trying to prop his failed iteration of bitcoin, just like a telemarketer trying to do outbound calls on uninterested prospects. Anyway, he could go on and rant all he wants, but we all know the story: BCH is a failure and only those pump and dump traders together with his die-hard fanatics and close friends would ever be interested in BCH.

A mining pool decided to use a 51% attack on BCH last month to "correct" some transactions they didn't like. This was easily done because their hashrate is so low. The fact that this is even possible means that BCH is no longer decentralized or censorship resistance. One mining pool has complete power over BCH, if they want it.

It is a failed coin kept alive by bag holders trying to lure in newbies.

This. Knowing that a single entity could cause a major problem in the network, why would anyone even use your creation?  Cheesy

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June 17, 2019, 08:38:56 PM
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It's worth noting that the millennials who will be jumping into bitcoin in the coming years are largely onto the scammy nature of Bitcoin Cash, or Bcash, if the Urban Dictionary is any indication:

Also known as Bcash, Btrash or Shitcoin, it is scam aimed to confuse new bitcoin buyers, it's a highly centralized shitcoin...

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June 17, 2019, 08:54:15 PM
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Also known as Bcash, Btrash or Shitcoin, it is scam aimed to confuse new bitcoin buyers, it's a highly centralized shitcoin...
We cant argue the urban dictionary on that.

Low move to confuse readers to make them believe that nonsense.

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June 17, 2019, 08:56:47 PM
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It's worth noting that the millennials who will be jumping into bitcoin in the coming years are largely onto the scammy nature of Bitcoin Cash, or Bcash, if the Urban Dictionary is any indication:

Also known as Bcash, Btrash or Shitcoin, it is scam aimed to confuse new bitcoin buyers, it's a highly centralized shitcoin...

This entry has 357 upvotes.
Your post really made my day, I wish I still had any merit I could send you, I really do..
Your post made me remember (and laugh a lot) about a video I have seen in the internet about 1 year ago, when he did rage quit an interview because he felt "insulted" because the interviewer said "Bcash".. that was just too epic, imma drop the link here if I can find it


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Found the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCOjCEth6xI   Grin Grin Grin

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June 17, 2019, 09:00:13 PM
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It's worth noting that the millennials who will be jumping into bitcoin in the coming years are largely onto the scammy nature of Bitcoin Cash, or Bcash, if the Urban Dictionary is any indication:

Also known as Bcash, Btrash or Shitcoin, it is scam aimed to confuse new bitcoin buyers, it's a highly centralized shitcoin...

This entry has 357 upvotes.

That must drive him nuts. That's the type of derision money can't erase because it's the will of the people.

I occasionally dig something he says but then remember he more than likely put together risible squit like this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCllEvfvgUY

I definitely remember a post from him on there telling people to concentrate on the lyrics. Now gone.
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June 18, 2019, 02:41:00 AM
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it is so absurd that they keep advertising "Satoshi vision" and talk about being the "original" while they are betraying the first and most important thing in bitcoin which is consensus (that is a part of being decentralized). basically they started the movement that any idiot with 1 to 5% hashrate started creating a fork of bitcoin and called his shitcoin the "real" bitcoin.
what you never see them talk about is how they are showing a middle finger to the "majority" by doing that. it is like if in a country 99% of the population voted for president X but Y were put in the seat of power instead whilst talking about democracy!

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June 18, 2019, 09:14:12 AM
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He tries to show good sides of his coin and can't blame for it.
No he doesn't, because it doesn't have any good sides. His coin can't stand up on its own merits, so all he can do is shit on actual bitcoin and trick newbies in to thinking his coin is something else. Go to his site, which I refuse to link, and tell me what you see. "Get started with Bitcoin". "Buy Bitcoin here". "Download the official Bitcoin wallet". Lies and trickery, and not much else.

Also, does it not worry you that you refer to it as "his coin"? Isn't crypto supposed to be decentralized?

it is so absurd that they keep advertising "Satoshi vision"
But haven't you heard!? Our lord and savior CSW proved he was Satoshi by filling in a copyright form. What more do you need? A signed message!?

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June 18, 2019, 09:23:08 AM
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Well this picture shows that he is just trying to show that bitcoin cash and bitcoin is same thing.. he is just misleading.. and this is not right...
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June 18, 2019, 10:15:59 AM
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A mining pool decided to use a 51% attack on BCH last month to "correct" some transactions they didn't like. This was easily done because their hashrate is so low. The fact that this is even possible means that BCH is no longer decentralized or censorship resistance. One mining pool has complete power over BCH, if they want it.

It's remarkable how little mention this got considering it's the 'real Bitcoin'. If the 'fake Bitcoin' did this everyone would pulls their pants over their head and run around screaming. It pretty much says it all.
But but big blocks and .com ....I mean if you own the .com domain and pay snoopdog to be in a commercial you gotta have the true coin right?
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June 18, 2019, 10:57:13 AM
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This is just one of many attempts from RogerShitVer, and I bet it's not the last one in the intention to show shitoforkcoin as some true / real bitcoin. However with time is proved what actually people think about it, and this is at the end only relevant. In this case the lie remains a lie even though it is spoken or written 1000 times.  Only people who follow him are some newbies who see cheap bitcoin, and are not aware of the differences between fake and real bitcoin, and those who hate real bitcoin from some reason.


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June 18, 2019, 11:03:24 AM
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is very easy now for everyone to sue Roger Ver and get from him easy money. He only need to buy bcash from his site and after that to claim that he misleading and lost money from this misleading.
Roger Ver play with fire there.

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June 18, 2019, 11:17:21 AM
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The topic is boring without franky1. Where is he? Cool

Roger Ver is also so disingenuous in making it look like that Bitcoin and BitcoinCash not only split, but that BitcoinCash already existed pre-fork. Roll Eyes

Remember everyone, BitcoinCash did not exist before it forked away. It's a new network.

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June 18, 2019, 11:24:14 AM
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The topic is boring without franky1. Where is he? Cool

Roger Ver is also so disingenuous in making it look like that Bitcoin and BitcoinCash not only split, but that BitcoinCash already existed pre-fork. Roll Eyes

Remember everyone, BitcoinCash did not exist before it forked away. It's a new network.

not only new but double forked network

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June 18, 2019, 12:45:20 PM
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it is so absurd that they keep advertising "Satoshi vision" and talk about being the "original" while they are betraying the first and most important thing in bitcoin which is consensus (that is a part of being decentralized). basically they started the movement that any idiot with 1 to 5% hashrate started creating a fork of bitcoin and called his shitcoin the "real" bitcoin.
what you never see them talk about is how they are showing a middle finger to the "majority" by doing that. it is like if in a country 99% of the population voted for president X but Y were put in the seat of power instead whilst talking about democracy!

not defending ver or wright coin, as they have no big merchant adoption.. but, even the likes of luke JR and greg maxwell admit that the august 2017 event was a TWO WAY SPLIT
to me all this drama is like comparing american dollar with canadian or australian or even zimbabwe dollar. where some cry babies are crying that people dont like others using the word dollar. even though no one should own completely and exclusively the brand dollar, not even USA.
(analogy swap dollar for bitcoin, swap usa for core, swap canada for ver, swap australia for wright)

segwits code is not the same as the pre split code. meaning the post-split code is different. so yes it is a
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also looking at the timestamps of the blocks of the split. cores blocks split first. and then vers coin reacted HOURS later.even the social drama shwows that core devs wanted a split first by talking about such months earlier.. and vers coin was only a reaction a few weeks befor the split.
i only say this because so many people wanna kiss ass soo much that facts get blurred out and over exaggerations start forming to try making one side or the other seem better/worse then they are
if you could sit on the fence and see both sides. your vision would be clearer

take the august 2017 split. to get the "99% core control" by november2017 which pooya87 mentions above. core had to mandate off controversially not just 1%, not just 5% but alot more than that in august 2017

the august 2017 was not a 99% vote for core. again even luke jr and greg maxwell know and mentioned it.

anyways
vers coin and wrights coin dont have merchant adoption or any real world publicity. so just leave them in the altcoin discussion category

if you want to continue to cry about that only core should own brand bitcoin. then you failed test one of decentralisation.
think about the word 'dollar' and its multi community usage in the world as an example analogy, it might wake you up

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June 18, 2019, 12:46:04 PM
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They should advertise the reversal of transactions, so little network power an order on nicehash can change everything!
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June 18, 2019, 01:15:54 PM
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Ohhh thats so sad.. this is not happening.. that is wrong way to misguide people.. must take an action. He is misleading  the people...
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June 19, 2019, 06:22:16 AM
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it is so absurd that they keep advertising "Satoshi vision" and talk about being the "original" while they are betraying the first and most important thing in bitcoin which is consensus (that is a part of being decentralized). basically they started the movement that any idiot with 1 to 5% hashrate started creating a fork of bitcoin and called his shitcoin the "real" bitcoin.
what you never see them talk about is how they are showing a middle finger to the "majority" by doing that. it is like if in a country 99% of the population voted for president X but Y were put in the seat of power instead whilst talking about democracy!

not defending ver or wright coin, as they have no big merchant adoption.. but, even the likes of luke JR and greg maxwell admit that the august 2017 event was a TWO WAY SPLIT
to me all this drama is like comparing american dollar with canadian or australian or even zimbabwe dollar. where some cry babies are crying that people dont like others using the word dollar. even though no one should own completely and exclusively the brand dollar, not even USA.
(analogy swap dollar for bitcoin, swap usa for core, swap canada for ver, swap australia for wright)

segwits code is not the same as the pre split code. meaning the post-split code is different. so yes it is a
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and not a
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There she goes, there she goes again. Racing through my brain.

But in all seriousness franky1, why don't you try sending some BitcoinCash to an old Bitcoin address before the fork. You should get out of /r/btc's echo chamber.

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June 19, 2019, 07:26:03 AM
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windfury. try reading some actual information. stop crying
i am not team bch. i just detest the core ass kissers that want centralisation. and that includes those advertising other networks that require middlemen authorisation just to make payments.

i find it soo funny that is someone isnt kissing core centric ass they must be on another team. thats the foolish mindset of people that cant understand the word independent.

learn what bitcoins ethos was 2009-2015 before all the rekt campaigns
learn what code was used, who used it and the results it caused
you can social drama your rhetoric all you like but the blockchain data can prove you wrong.
so try to learn whats real via code, stats and data. not by social drama
oh.. its called research by the way. i know you hate the word, but try it

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windfury. try reading some actual information. stop crying
i am not team bch. i just detest the core ass kissers that want centralisation. and that includes those advertising other networks that require middlemen authorisation just to make payments.


There's no crying here. But what should be dested are fraudsters telling newbies that "BitcoinCash is Bitcoin".

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i find it soo funny that is someone isnt kissing core centric ass they must be on another team. thats the foolish mindset of people that cant understand the word independent.


Which people are we talking about? Signatories of the NYA perhaps? Cool

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learn what bitcoins ethos was 2009-2015 before all the rekt campaigns
learn what code was used, who used it and the results it caused
you can social drama your rhetoric all you like but the blockchain data can prove you wrong.
so try to learn whats real via code, stats and data. not by social drama
oh.. its called research by the way. i know you hate the word, but try it


You post Roger Ver's "bilateral split" propaganda, and tell us we are causing social drama? Hahaha, ok.

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but, even the likes of luke JR and greg maxwell admit that the august 2017 event was a TWO WAY SPLIT


That is simply NOT true.

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