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June 17, 2019, 09:18:56 PM
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I have a 24 word bip39 seed and all the words are in the bip39 word list.
Somehow it is not a valid bip39 seed, i think the checksum fails.

I have tried to replace words with similar looking words from the list, no help.

The seed is from a Nano S.

Any advice or script to check for errors in the seed?
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June 17, 2019, 11:07:30 PM
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What did you use to recover the seed? https://iancoleman.io/bip39/ is a web-based solution, and Electrum another alternative.

Is the seed still in your Nano S? https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000609933-Lost-device-PIN-code-or-recovery-phrase

Please note entering your seed anywhere but in your device you will basically remove all the security from it.

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I have a 24 word bip39 seed and all the words are in the bip39 word list.
Somehow it is not a valid bip39 seed, i think the checksum fails.

I have tried to replace words with similar looking words from the list, no help.
MOst of words combination are not valid, even if all words are valid.

The seed is from a Nano S.

Any advice or script to check for errors in the seed?

How was your seed generated?Did you bought ledger from official retailer? Did the seed came written in a piece of paper or did you generate it when you turned your ledger on the first time?
Please give us more information. Your seed may be incorrect.

You can try to recover it in Electrum (Electrum.org) or iancoleman tool, as poordeveloper mentioned.

Please note entering your seed anywhere but in your device you will basically remove all the security from it.
This is correct. Also, anyway you should create a new wallet with a new seed even if you manage to recover your funds.



Edit: Are you sure this seed is from a ledger nano? Electrum uses a different algorithm, and it is not bip39. Your seed may work in Electrum if that is the case.

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June 18, 2019, 06:43:44 AM
Last edit: June 18, 2019, 07:08:21 AM by djhomeschool
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I know it's not Electrum and i know all the words are right but i think some of the words (2 or 3) are not in the right order.....

I have tried the bip39 tool on an offline pc and it says invalid mnemonic but all the words are bip39 words.
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June 18, 2019, 07:44:55 AM
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Although I've never used it myself, I think that you'll have to try recovering with seedrecover (from btcrecover) ; from my research, that's what others also recommend.
I assume that you know at least a couple of addresses from that wallet...

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June 18, 2019, 07:53:38 AM
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i think some of the words (2 or 3) are not in the right order.....

You need to think back to the time when you backed up these words and remember what you did that changed the order and try to have some idea about which words you changed. Like this user. Then it would be easy to write a simple code to check the variations and find the correct seed phrase. Basically anything you can think of that can reduce the number of possibilities and come up with an algorithm.

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June 18, 2019, 08:11:30 AM
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I read this suggestion before (but didn't bookmark the link), so I'll reproduce it: Could it be you wrote the words in a different order:
Say:
1 2
3 4
5 6
7 8
And now you're going 1 3 5 7 ...... 2 4 6 8 ......?

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June 18, 2019, 06:06:05 PM
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I know it's not Electrum and i know all the words are right but i think some of the words (2 or 3) are not in the right order.....

I have tried the bip39 tool on an offline pc and it says invalid mnemonic but all the words are bip39 words.

If you absolutely have no idea which words are on wrong position, even checking script can't help much because there are many possible permutation (24! / (24! - 24!) or 620448401733239439360000 possible permutation).

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June 18, 2019, 06:53:33 PM
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Just wanted to add that you should be very careful now. Bad guys will read your post here, too, and may try to scam you. If anyone offers you help eg. per PM requesting you to send him the seed, dont reply and stay away.

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June 19, 2019, 09:02:12 AM
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Just wanted to add that you should be very careful now. Bad guys will read your post here, too, and may try to scam you. If anyone offers you help eg. per PM requesting you to send him the seed, dont reply and stay away.
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June 19, 2019, 09:07:42 AM
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Found it guys, thanks for the help everybody.

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June 19, 2019, 09:08:02 AM
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I read this suggestion before (but didn't bookmark the link), so I'll reproduce it: Could it be you wrote the words in a different order:
Say:
1 2
3 4
5 6
7 8
And now you're going 1 3 5 7 ...... 2 4 6 8 ......?

This is what i did  Grin
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