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What happened: Fake team members, stealing people's identity!

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  • I found a few fake team members but I believe everyone listed there is fake, all names sound way too generic.
  • Their website is just 5 days old, no whitepaper and of course fake LinkedIn profiles.
  • One of the team members with fake identity is actually a somewhat famous former NHL player - Mike Komisarek

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Marvin Miller = Mike Komisarek



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Kelly Johnson = Dulcy Freeman





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Gabriel Silva = Eric ?



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June 20, 2019, 01:54:56 PM
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Yeah just look at the 1st guy, either he's an anime character or clearly photoshopped

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Yeah just look at the 1st guy, either he's an anime character or clearly photoshopped

"Darrell" indeed has a weird look but I don't think he is shopped, it's just a stolen picture from someones' portfolio or something.


Lol, they were quick to remove those fake team members:

Hi, unfortunately due to caching issues while setting up cloudflare templated team members were shown and we have removed them, thanks for noticing!

I guess they will blame cloudfare for fake LinkedIn profiles as well  Grin

https://www.linkedin.com/in/darrel-jackson-85a199184/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabriel-silva-10a485182/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/marvin-miller-9b5068182/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/clifford-erickson-85a069182/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancy-morgan-b58b50181/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-johnson-541068182/

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June 20, 2019, 02:16:05 PM
Last edit: June 20, 2019, 02:29:25 PM by claymoretoken
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Apologies for this accident, it happened due to setting up cloudflare and wordpress caching. We have outsourced frontend development and those were used as placeholder pictures while we are still working on designing the actual team section as you can tell from templated parallax background having some icons of original template. We are a bit in a hurry due to how market is behaving so we rushed with our airdrop without checking everything from external frontend cache hit.

The reason why those pictures and names ended up on linkedin accounts is due having outsourced frontend and social media manager so what was displayed on website was also used on linkedin accounts

If you find any more mistakes please do let us know!  Smiley
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Last edit: June 21, 2019, 02:24:55 PM by plasmoske
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Even one of their admin (Lily) in Telegram has a fake picture.

is of a underground Mexican model lol.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bxu8XWfgqpv/?igshid=lpgyeblckmd0

Another admin (Lucy C) also has a fake picture of some random Russian girl (image search throws up a lot of hits).

Another admin (channel creator) telegram name is literally "CEO of Claymore". Like come on. CEO of Claymore? What is this? Corporate company now? lol At least write your name or something.

Their website lists partnerships with Ethereum, Metamask and MEW.

Lists upcoming exchanges, Mercatox, coinexchange and... Binance lol

Website looks to be created by someone in their teens. Poor use of the English language and website layout barely displays properly on mobile.

Summary: Anonymous team/person with fake names/photos, fake partnerships, fake LinkedIn profiles and fake exchange promises. Also website is brand new (5 days old)/poorly written. Also their Bitcointalk response is borderline laughable. CloudFlare cache? lol. How about explaining the fake LinkedIn profiles?

So it looks extremely likely to be a scam coin / get rich quick scheme for the creator(s). Anonymous/fake team means they can cash out without anyone being able to identify them.
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June 21, 2019, 05:20:27 PM
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Good catch OP. Tagged and supported newbie flag from my side. Its look to me that they have photoshopped their most of picture which is highly suspicious. That's why a little search could save lot of people's from scam. Personally I can't trust any project who have used fake team members.

If you find any more mistakes please do let us know!  Smiley
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June 21, 2019, 05:50:09 PM
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We are a bit in a hurry due to how market is behaving so we rushed with our airdrop without checking everything from external frontend cache hit.

Thats a funny answer for me. Wow!!! What a sign of professionalism. Hey man, if you think you could settle this matter by giving false excuse then you are living on 19th century Smiley.

Impressive work OP. Thanks for revealing another scam project which will definitely help crypto investors to take right decisions before investing. Its really expecting to see these kinda scammers on current market situation. I think all responsible community user should be aware of it and try a little much to save worldwide crypto investors and crypto's fame too.


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Nice job man. Thanks
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Apologies for this accident, it happened due to setting up cloudflare and wordpress caching. We have outsourced frontend development and those were used as placeholder pictures while we are still working on designing the actual team section as you can tell from templated parallax background having some icons of original template.

So when you outsource someone to create your site, do not you communicate with those people? Do not you deliver the real data of your team?

We are a bit in a hurry due to how market is behaving...

 Huh

should not you worry about creating something useful to the world instead of just being worried about the market?

The reason why those pictures and names ended up on linkedin accounts is due having outsourced frontend and social media manager so what was displayed on website was also used on linkedin accounts

and you do not supervise the work they do so that you correct a mistake if have? This is a very weak argument.

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Asked the telegram admin to give me more details about their team members/names etc. Guy doesn't know and directs me to "CEO Claymore Token" (lol).

Guy also says we're new, give us time to list our team.

I ask at least can I have your name. He replies give us time, but everyone calls me Leo, but I'm Leon. lol

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June 22, 2019, 05:10:18 AM
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Even one of their admin (Lily) in Telegram has a fake picture.

is of a underground Mexican model lol.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bxu8XWfgqpv/?igshid=lpgyeblckmd0

Another admin (Lucy C) also has a fake picture of some random Russian girl (image search throws up a lot of hits).

Another admin (channel creator) telegram name is literally "CEO of Claymore". Like come on. CEO of Claymore? What is this? Corporate company now? lol At least write your name or something.

Their website lists partnerships with Ethereum, Metamask and MEW.

Lists upcoming exchanges, Mercatox, coinexchange and... Binance lol

Website looks to be created by someone in their teens. Poor use of the English language and website layout barely displays properly on mobile.

Summary: Anonymous team/person with fake names/photos, fake partnerships, fake LinkedIn profiles and fake exchange promises. Also website is brand new (5 days old)/poorly written. Also their Bitcointalk response is borderline laughable. CloudFlare cache? lol. How about explaining the fake LinkedIn profiles?

So it looks extremely likely to be a scam coin / get rich quick scheme for the creator(s). Anonymous/fake team means they can cash out without anyone being able to identify them.

We have given a token bounty to people as return to moderating our chat, since moderating 5000 people and more is really hard and time consuming, they are not part of the team. Weak fud to project people moderating telegram are team members  Huh

>Their website lists partnerships with Ethereum, Metamask and MEW.
We are using ETH, Metamask and MEW.

>Lists upcoming exchanges, Mercatox, coinexchange and... Binance lol
DDEX was there too, and we got listed on DDEX yesterday, seems like we are delivering on our promises.

>So it looks extremely likely to be a scam coin / get rich quick scheme for the creator(s). Anonymous/fake team means they can cash out without anyone being able to identify them.
Wait few more days for us to complete the airdrop. Quite unfortunate people project and assume we are a scam,however its expected due to how many scams crypto space has.

Apologies for this accident, it happened due to setting up cloudflare and wordpress caching. We have outsourced frontend development and those were used as placeholder pictures while we are still working on designing the actual team section as you can tell from templated parallax background having some icons of original template.

So when you outsource someone to create your site, do not you communicate with those people? Do not you deliver the real data of your team?

We are a bit in a hurry due to how market is behaving...

 Huh

should not you worry about creating something useful to the world instead of just being worried about the market?

The reason why those pictures and names ended up on linkedin accounts is due having outsourced frontend and social media manager so what was displayed on website was also used on linkedin accounts

and you do not supervise the work they do so that you correct a mistake if have? This is a very weak argument.

We do communicate with outsourced workers, however due to time difference we cant have a real time communication 24/7.

>should not you worry about creating something useful to the world instead of just being worried about the market?
Early bird gets the worm. There are thousand of Bitcoin clones, but bitcoin has first mover advantage.

>and you do not supervise the work they do so that you correct a mistake if have? This is a very weak argument.
we do, everything looked fine on internal _cache_bypassed_ environment, its just that the frontend that the world sees was different due to caching and cloudflare.

Asked the telegram admin to give me more details about their team members/names etc. Guy doesn't know and directs me to "CEO Claymore Token" (lol).

Guy also says we're new, give us time to list our team.

I ask at least can I have your name. He replies give us time, but everyone calls me Leo, but I'm Leon. lol

red flags
We are quite busy managing social media of 10000 people, preparing for airdrop and communicating with exchanges. Literally thousands of messages a day. You are not a special snowflake to be treated that way due to spreading FUD on forum or attempting to pursue fake justice.

>I ask at least can I have your name. He replies give us time, but everyone calls me Leo, but I'm Leon. lol
What is the real life name of Satoshi Nakamoto? Is Bitcoin scam due to its creator not revealing his name?


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June 22, 2019, 06:17:17 AM
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your arguments are weak and laughable

did CloudFlare cache this as well? https://www.linkedin.com/in/darrel-jackson-85a199184/

lol

ddex has low requirements. they basically list anyone who applies

the scam is super obvious. promise everything later, names, white paper, app, exchanges

send airdrop out asap

dump on ddex or forkdelta and disappear

like how difficult is it to provide a photo, profile and name of your CEO or team member? it's not rocket science
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June 22, 2019, 07:29:11 AM
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your arguments are weak and laughable

did CloudFlare cache this as well? https://www.linkedin.com/in/darrel-jackson-85a199184/

lol

ddex has low requirements. they basically list anyone who applies

the scam is super obvious. promise everything later, names, white paper, app, exchanges

send airdrop out asap

dump on ddex or forkdelta and disappear

like how difficult is it to provide a photo, profile and name of your CEO or team member? it's not rocket science
>did CloudFlare cache this as well? https://www.linkedin.com/in/darrel-jackson-85a199184/
Both frontend designer as well as social media managers were outsourced. As we said before the reason LinkedIn accounts had those pictures/names is due to social media manager visiting claymoretoken.com and receiving the cached version of website.

>ddex has low requirements. they basically list anyone who applies
Unfortunately for you we discussed directly with DDEX CEO about our listing and were approved without applying.

>the scam is super obvious. promise everything later, names, white paper, app, exchanges
Projecting without any sort of evidence apart from templated pictures/section of website is nothing but FUD at this point. We promised DDEX, two days later we delievered, We promised airdrop, we are delivering right now.
https://etherscan.io/tx/0xefe85ddf664759a16b4ca8e973ddbed7bd505c7acb85ef9657bc3e007e015f10
https://etherscan.io/tx/0xb6a916a788d703d6762ec9df855dc5436eb72c3c8e7753f54405c264b1bb7d22
https://etherscan.io/tx/0xbcf75bfa149fb27f6e87d787c4a590e8566669fbcfec74c326fec2aec4c7e326

>dump on ddex or forkdelta and disappear
We contacted over 10 exchanges in the past few days for our listing and even paid fees to be listed, again projecting based off hate and pre-judged assumptions.

>like how difficult is it to provide a photo, profile and name of your CEO or team member? it's not rocket science
We are very busy doing the airdrop, once that is done you can expect team reveal, providing a photo, profile and name of CEO will only make you say its fake. Again, I encourage you to contact Satoshi Nakamoto and ask for his picture, profile and name. Let me know how that goes.









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June 22, 2019, 07:33:36 AM
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deflect deflect hahahha thanks for proving us right

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June 22, 2019, 07:42:33 AM
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p.s what idiot has social media managers managing their PERSONAL LinkedIn. This is a first I've ever heard of such a thing for any crypto project. LinkedIn is meant to be a history/resume. You don't just create it out of thin air and for the whole team.
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June 22, 2019, 07:46:52 AM
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deflect deflect hahahha thanks for proving us right


I support you and everyone in this thread that is trying to weed out scams in this space, as it should be done. But every once in a while there will be a legitimate project which will screw up on >day 1< of launch, people make mistakes... even Bitcoin had hundreds of bugs in its code, and recently few bugs were revealed(even by Bitcoin Cash devs that are also labeled as scammers- oh the irony).

Instead of ignoring all these accusations we are replying to every single one of them.

Unfortunately it seems that your hate for scams is blinding you so much you refuse to accept when your accusations have no ground.

It's not deflection if its backed by actual actions done instead of made up words.

- DDEX listing in two days of promising it: DONE
- Airdrop within two days of launch: DONE
- Paid exchange listings out of our own pockets: DONE
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June 22, 2019, 07:49:03 AM
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 DDEX listing in two days of promising it: EASY. Any coin can do this easily.
- Airdrop within two days of launch: Also easy. Even I can do this myself.
- Paid exchange listings out of our own pockets: No proof.
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June 22, 2019, 07:52:45 AM
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All I can do is warn other members to beware of Claymore because so far, nothing solid to prove it's not a scam yet. In-fact there are more things to point it as a scam (so far).

Complain and cry FUD all you like but so far, it is what it is.
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June 22, 2019, 07:55:58 AM
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DDEX listing in two days of promising it: EASY. Any coin can do this easily.
- Airdrop within two days of launch: Also easy. Even I can do this myself.
- Paid exchange listings out of our own pockets: No proof.
https://twitter.com/VinDAXOfficial/status/1142309007480066048
Thats just one  Wink
I have replied to other comments above, re-read if you'd like to.

All I can do is warn other members to beware of Claymore because so far, nothing solid to prove it's not a scam yet. In-fact there are more things to point it as a scam (so far).

Complain and cry FUD all you like but so far, it is what it is.
Absolutely, and we will try our best to respond to all of the warnings you post. That's why this is a forum, so people can discuss things.

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June 22, 2019, 08:01:10 AM
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Erm Vindax is some shady exchange with fake volume and based in Vietnam.

Why did you choose to list on some shady Vietnamese exchange? lol. the answer is obvious
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