Total corruption in Russian local [DT involved!]

[KTChampions]

It all started with this: forum user Smart man (hero member) was caught on hiring posters for the bumping service.
The post with proofs was placed in Meta and then moved in Local board section. It was February 4th. Everyone in the local ignored this information.

On June 8, another user found additional evidences against the Smart man (offering a bumping service) and published it.
Let's look at this evidences:

Text from screenshot:

TPEБУETCЯ ПOCTИHГ B AHГЛOЯЗЫЧHЫX BETКAX
1. Oбpaщaйтecь тe, y кoгo в aккax минимyм пoлoвинa пocтoв нa aнглийcкoм.
2. Пocты oт 100 знaкoв.
3. Bыcкaзывaeтe мнeниe o пpoeктe, зaдaeтe вoпpocы. Чyши пиcaть нe нaдo.
4. Aнглийcкий нe гyгл тpaнcлeйт.
5. У вac oт 5 aккoв.

Translation:

REQUIRED POSTING IN ENGLISH THREADS
1. Contact me if in your accounts at least half of the posts in English.
2. Posts up from 100 signs.
3. Express an opinion about the project, ask questions. Don't write nonsense.
4. English is not Google translate.
5. You have from 5 accounts.

 For save space the remaining proofs, I will write immediately in the translation, links to the original sources here.

I will completely do (with the command) the required:
- posting messages to thread on btt.
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Hi guys looking for posters for a project. Write your telegram in pm.

 So what exactly is needed? Posts on btt, thread bumping on btt? Writing articles? PM me.

And some others, but that's enough.

Surprisingly, this did not lead to tagging Smart man. Many "honored" members began to aggressively defend him. For this reason there was a scandal. But the "honored" members did not change their opinion.
Now I will give these opinions immediately in translation. If you need a translation of the entire page, I will do it. A lot of text, but it is very important. I want you to understand the scale of the problem.

taikuri13 (Hero member, DT-1)

Screenshot 1: - What are we talking about here? Based on the text of the announcement, I don’t understand what is specifically proposed, because it’s one thing when it comes to a group of people, each of whom has an account and is interested in the project, or else it’s about one participant with accounts.
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To tag an account - I personally need proof of its violations - by 200% so that I have no doubts about the negative that a particular scammer brings to the forum. And the fact that the scammer’s goal is only profit and deception of participants. In this case, I do not see even 10% (this is my personal opinion) of deception.

chimk (Hero member, DT-1, merit source)

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I saw that he was hiring in posting service, in good English, with a requirement for the quality of the content (both volume and content). There is no evidence that this is a promotion of scam projects, that the service has been implemented by shitposting-not proven, the existence of the service itself from this post is also in question.
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Alex_Sr (Hero member, DT-1)

For whom did I write about the search of proofs?

Reasonable questions to be asked:
1. What accounts were hired?
2. What threads did they write in?
3. Give examples of messages, how many messages are deleted as spam?
4. Was there a contract at all?

There are answers to these questions - there is a red trust, there are no answers to these questions - there is no red trust. It seems accessible and understandable?

madnessteat (Hero member)

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I assume that in this case either there is not enough evidence that these people worked specifically to Smart man and on these projects, or at the time of the job offer there was simply no evidence that the project was a scam, or the third option - he personally did not advertise the scam project. And maybe all this together. In the English-speaking topic there was a member of the DT1 list - suchmoon, and as I said, knowing the Russian language, but he did not send a negative tag to Smart man, that means there are reasons for that.

and similar responses from johhnyUA (Hero member), smak9 (Sr. member)

It was a big discussion, but the general pattern of the responses of the listed people is: There is no evidence to tag.

There were some other patterns, such as accusations of trolling, the threat to tag me (and fxpc, who found additional evidence against Smart man), but I threw them away as irrelevant.

This model of behavior did not change even when two DT kzv (Hero member, DT-1), MaoChao (Legendary, DT-1) members expressed the opinion that the available evidence directly speaks about hiring in a bumping service and offering a bumping service.
The only change that happened - Chimik excluded kzv from his trusted list and added him to the list of users whom he does not trust!

I was very surprised by all this and tried to understand what was going on.
I began by studying the bpip profile of Smart Man.
Immediately I saw a very interesting thing:
Merit Fans of Smart man
Profile                       
chimk top 1 merit Fan of Smart man and top 1 favorite profile to send sMerit to from Smart man
yo-blin favorite profiles to send sMerit to - Smart man, top 1.
k0er red trust user, favorite profiles to send sMerit to - Smart man, top 1.
nik009 favorite profiles to send sMerit to - Smart man, top 1.
tema favorite profiles to send sMerit to - Smart man, top 1.
kirreev070   banned user, favorite profiles to send sMerit to - Smart man, top 1.
markiz73 banned user, favorite profiles to send sMerit to - Smart man, top 1.
Criptomen banned user, favorite profiles to send sMerit to - Smart man, top 1.
t39 banned user, favorite profiles to send sMerit to - Smart man, top 1.
BlackWidow banned user, favorite profiles to send sMerit to - Smart man, top 1.

Such a unanimous love for Smart Man seemed to me suspicious and I decided to study the profile of these fans.

tema (Hero member)

Send merit to
User         amount        status

Dasha88fed      2    banned
gtx1060aa      2    banned
Tryto          2    banned
mafitjulit     5    banned
lopatitapipa   5    banned
astrixligtman  5    banned
lesnik_utsa    2    banned
Jana Wood    2    banned
LikaForw       3    banned
Mery Gason   3    banned
ethalliance    6    banned

Hans Groober  1
merit from
t39      3 banned
Criptomen   2 banned
yo-blin      2 - multiple connections with banned users
pavan@hosur   2 - multiple connections with banned users
send merit to
golemo      2 - multiple connections with banned users
Vs225655   2 - multiple connections with banned users
Smart man   1 - multiple connections with banned users

LaitHonor       5
merit from
niteroy      3 banned
Dasha88fed   2 banned
send merit to
MZMARY      4 banned
ulia93      1 banned

BitcoinBoster   5
merit from
astrixligtman   3 banned
RuSS512      2 banned
send merit to
lopatitapipa   3 banned
PhuketSunset   2 - multiple connections with banned users

bountymagnatos77 2
merit from
Fanat1kbounty   3 - multiple connections with banned users
trader_999   3 banned
BravO_o      2 banned
send merit to
Rahees      2 - multiple connections with banned users
MasterObsheniya02 2 banned
lolobit      1 - multiple connections with banned users

Fanat1kbounty    2
merit from
trader_999   3 banned
Nataliagur   2 - multiple connections with banned users
lolobit      1 - multiple connections with banned users
TheL1ke77   1 banned
Apex06      1 - multiple connections with banned users
send merit to
bountymagnatos77 3 - multiple connections with banned users
Ny_nado_dymatb   1 - seems legit
warning_btc   1 - multiple connections with banned users

Apex06           2
merit from
warning_btc   1 - multiple connections with banned users
H00LiGaN   1 - multiple connections with banned users
send merit to
BravO_o      1 banned
Fanat1kbounty   1 - multiple connections with banned users

H00LiGaN         4
merit from
BravO_o      2 banned
Mauzzer      2 - merited by RuSS512 banned and eye4bd red trust
Ranyar      1 red trust
Romzes      1 - merited by BravO_o and TheL1ke77 both banned
send merit to
givemegoldcoin  2 merited by Ranyar red trust
Apex06      1 send merit to BravO_o banned
BravO_o      1 banned
tringt      1 - multiple connections with banned users

Of course, the abuse did not end on banned or "legit"users, for example:
ethalliance got merit from tema, Fragan and Tia0315 (both got 10 merit from red trusted toptek), send merit to banned Milla Kross who sent merit to banned Masha Me1 and so on.

So tema is the champion in sending merit to abusers and he still did not tagged or banned.

What about yo-blin (Legendary)?
to save space and time, I took only the top 10
send merit to
Smart man   50 - good amount.
markiz73      9 banned
Polkeins       7 It is very important profile - remember him!
cherlov       7 banned
kirreev070      4 banned
elmwood       4 multiple connections with banned users
The world is mine 4 - sent merit to Smart man and other users who sent merit to Smart man.
StivenSor      3 multiple connections with banned users
bigcrocodile   3 multiple connections with banned users
JohnnyBG       3 multiple connections with banned users

Interesting behavior and yo-blin still not tagged and not banned.

What about nik009 (hero member)?
send merit to
Smart man   23 good amount again
JuanPaulo       4 - sent merit to Smart man and multiple connections with banned users
brocardinf       3 banned
comforteagle23   3 banned
tursunalimenman 2 recieve merit from Smart man and multiple connections with banned users
RuslanSamui   2 banned
olgaso2018   2 recieve merit from Smart man and multiple connections with banned users and 4/8/2018 11:24:35 AM   password changed as tursunalimenman 4/9/2018 8:50:05 AM   password changed
daddybios       2 - seems legit
explorder       2 - seems legit
CryptoVictory   1 - seems legit
Tryto                1    banned sent merit to Smart man and multiple connections with banned users
bigcrocodile      1 multiple connections with banned users
JohnnyBG         1 multiple connections with banned users

Same behavior and nik009 still not tagged and not banned.

Studying this information, I saw another "favorite" account of abusers.
Polkeins
chimk                      91
t39                          10
yo-blin                     7
kirreev070                6
Smart man               6

If you study the history of his merit, then you can find a huge number of abusers as trader_999, Yury1, BlackWidow etc that sent merit to him... but the first 5 are enough. Why?
Polkeins                           4/6/2018 3:49:26 PM   password reset via email
                                         7/9/2018 6:24:31 AM   password changed
                                         8/9/2018 6:55:31 PM   password changed

chimk                                4/16/2018 8:44:51 PM   password reset via email
                                         8/9/2018 9:55:07 PM   password changed

Everything is already clear, but I went further. I checked the topic where Smart Man offers his services (writing WP and promotion of ICO) and allegedly communicates with customers. Within 10 minutes, I discovered that most of the discussion participants were alts of Smart Man. To save space and time I will show the most interesting ones:

Blanchrc40    3/25/2018 9:32:14 PM password changed    5/9/2019 8:34:21 AM   woke up
Hiring in bumping service

MrBoston        3/25/2018 9:48:00 PM password changed     5/14/2019 9:52:40 PM   woke up

Fixxer767        3/25/2018 10:20:35 PM password changed   5/12/2019 1:30:10 AM   woke up

Jeronimo78        3/18/2018 4:13:10 PM password changed  5/9/2019 8:29:33 AM   woke up

You will say that these are minor details to the facts that already exist? No, I'll explain later why. We continue:
There are banned user Afina_22
She sent merit to Smart man and was connected to him through other abusers. She is the topic starter (in russian local) of scam project Adab Solutions
Who started the topic in the English section? - whitetoo 3/25/2018 9:53:53 PM   password changed
3/25/2018 10:26:45 PM   password changed
Smart man himself confessed that he collaborated with Adab and received money from them, but everyone pretended that they did not notice this. Even after I pointed it out!

I thought that I was not Sherlock, but I easily find something that others do not see. Although if you are aggressively defending Smart Man, then you should at least superficially examine his profile. Although there is a possibility that the defenders know everything perfectly well, but they hope that other people will not pay attention to it. There are so many banned users and so many connections between them (through merit and not only through it) it's hard not to see all this.
And... Smart man is the topic starter of THIS topic where he talks about reducing the punishment to banned users caught in plagiarism! And of course, the active participants in this topic are those users whom I mentioned at the beginning of this topic and who pretend to be professional blind when the talk goes about Smart Man. And check the topics in meta about markiz73, kirreev070 etc. If you want to lauth check signature of johhnyUA

I continued and decided to study this topic: UP rank in Russian local
Information about some users is not updated (maybe because there is too much red color?), So I updated it, plus I quickly looked through the user profile.
Up rank from Newbie to Hero Member - 2 users
Alex_Sr  - professional blind
taikuri13 - professional blind

Up rank fromFull Member to Hero Member - 7 users
Smart man - scamer
Goran_
Veleor
Xal0lex
Coin-1
chimk - abuser
xenon131

Up rank from Sr. Member to Hero Member - 3 users (3 banned)
alex bond  - - plagiarism
ATMcoin  - - plagiarism
RuSS512  - - ban avoiding

Up rank from Newbie to Sr. Member - 7 users
esmanthra - 3/18/2018 3:43:13 AM password changed
lovesmayfamilis - - autoban
crypmike
igor72
madnessteat - 3/18/2018 7:47:50 AM password changed
Juliya_D
witcher_sense

Up rank from Jr.Member to Sr. Member - 1 user
kirreev070 - - autoban

Up rank fromMember to Sr. Member - 2 user
tvplus006 - - autoban
leonello

Up rank from Full Member to Sr. Member - 9 user
explorder
Yury1 - - autoban
Hakamura - - plagiarism
ui_zakharchenko  - - plagiarism
First1by - obvious merit abuse check BPIP!
BOMG - obvious merit abuse check BPIP!
bolshojkush - obvious merit abuse check BPIP!
Smartprofit
amaclin1 - red trust

Up rank to Full Member - 31 user
Avatar2030 - obvious merit abuse check BPIP!
inbizin  - - plagiarism
Ekaterinat  - - plagiarism
ToTheMoon_XOM9IK
YulyNov - plagiarism
The_ Flash  - - plagiarism
istklin - obvious merit abuse check BPIP!
Cryptoshka
Ksjywe4ka - obvious merit abuse check BPIP!
RomashkaSuH  - - plagiarism
SeverusSnegg - obvious merit abuse check BPIP!
Polytesse - red trust for cheating bounty campaigns with alts
Afina_22 - - plagiarism
temarazin
PavelRostov - merit abuse, so many connections with abusers!
MoxnatyShmel
cryptolord2077 - merit abuse, MaoChao caught him but fo some reason did't tag
Nikisa
Polkeins - abuser, alt of chimik
JagerBeen - - banned
LV5ME - - banned
wh1rlw1nd
StartupAnalyst
Kriptopsina
an@sha
FapToBbly - plagiarism
DIKUL
MrFreeRoMan - plagiarism

Look at the facts and try to understand the extent of this cancer.
So much red. And this is without taking into account the many smaller users.

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[KTChampions]

Illustrations for the information shown above.

Two users synchronously became Senior members in just 6 days (1/25/2018 - 1/31/2018) with nice scheme of merit abuse.
And ... apparently there is no evidence.

[KTChampions]

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[suchmoon]

chimk is a merit source with a huge monthly allocation of sMerits. He's likely to be the biggest "fan" of any decent poster on the Russian boards. That doesn't mean there's "corruption".

[KTChampions]

chimk is a merit source with a huge monthly allocation of sMerits. Obviously he's likely to be the biggest "fan" of any decent poster on the Russian boards. That doesn't mean there's "corruption".

Polkeins                           4/6/2018 3:49:26 PM   password reset via email
                                         7/9/2018 6:24:31 AM   password changed
                                         8/9/2018 6:55:31 PM   password changed

chimk                                4/16/2018 8:44:51 PM   password reset via email
                                         8/9/2018 9:55:07 PM   password changed

Please read the thread completely before commenting.
And read how masterfully he defended the scammer - you know the Russian language.

[suchmoon]

Please read the thread completely before commenting.

I did and it was a waste of time. You haven't even red-trusted the alleged perp yourself and you built a massive conspiracy theory on a lot of assumptions.

[IMadeYouReadThis]

chimk is a merit source with a huge monthly allocation of sMerits. He's likely to be the biggest "fan" of any decent poster on the Russian boards. That doesn't mean there's "corruption".

I think you should re-go through the evidence posted in the OP. There are some solid evidence of Smart man abusing merits and running some shaddy business overall.

It looks pretty clear to me !

[KTChampions]

Please read the thread completely before commenting.

I did and it was a waste of time. You haven't even red-trusted the alleged perp yourself and you built a massive conspiracy theory on a lot of assumptions.

Please check facts, it is not a theory.

[xtraelv]

Please read the thread completely before commenting.

I did and it was a waste of time. You haven't even red-trusted the alleged perp yourself and you built a massive conspiracy theory on a lot of assumptions.

Please check facts, it is not a theory.

No-one is disputing the facts. The issue is with the assumptions. Issues with the Russian local boards is best dealt with by Russian DTs on that board. There are numerous Russian DTs that I trust that are in a much better position to judge it than non native speakers.

Individual assessments are made. Not every slight or breaking of the rules will be punished.

It is clear that Theymos wants to reserve flag judgement to only the most prolific scammers. How trust is allocated is up to individual DT members.

Like Suchmoon said - you have made all these accusations but you haven't placed any trust yourself.  Why are you expecting others to do something you won't even do yourself ?

chimk is a merit source with a huge monthly allocation of sMerits. He's likely to be the biggest "fan" of any decent poster on the Russian boards. That doesn't mean there's "corruption".

There is definitely an issue of many permabanned users getting merit.  I think the main issue is that plagiarism is hard to detect and often fools the reader into believing that it is a good quality post.

However there is no proof that it is part of a conspiracy or corruption. It could also mean that the moderators on the Russian board are doing a great job catching and banning plagiarists.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topsendban

[KTChampions]

Please check facts, it is not a theory.

No-one is disputing the facts. The issue is with the assumptions. Issues with the Russian local boards is best dealt with by Russian DTs on that board. There are numerous Russian DTs that I trust that are in a much better position to judge it than non native speakers.

In this post I showed problems that are easy to understand without even knowing the Russian language.
I show the problem of corruption, and you assume that the corrupt DTs themselves are able to solve the problems (with themselves)? Seriously?

Not every slight or breaking of the rules will be punished.

I showed serious violations of the rules (merit abuse, creation of spam services and etc.) and they are still not punished - this is what I call corruption and that is why I am here.

Like Suchmoon said - you have made all these accusations but you haven't placed any trust yourself.  Why are you expecting others to do something you won't even do yourself ?

If you read my post completely then you must understand the scale of the problem.
I do not want to play with cancer in the game and I see no reason to put tags that no one will even see.

The problem with chimik is not in merit, but in the fact that he is protecting a proven scamer (Smart man).
And chimik has an alt which is connected with a set of merit abusers.

Polkeins                           4/6/2018 3:49:26 PM   password reset via email
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                                         8/9/2018 6:55:31 PM   password changed

chimk                                4/16/2018 8:44:51 PM   password reset via email
                                         8/9/2018 9:55:07 PM   password changed

[xtraelv]

If you read my post completely then you must understand the scale of the problem.
I do not want to play with cancer in the game and I see no reason to put tags that no one will even see.

Trust is now much more decentralized. People will never see tags if they are not placed. You will never be in a position where your tags will be seen if you do not place them.

In your "analysis" you try to sully the names of those in a position to provide some assistance. It appears that when someone disagrees with your opinion you consider them "corrupt" or "blind".

[KTChampions]

In your "analysis" you try to sully the names of those in a position to provide some assistance. It appears that when someone disagrees with your opinion you consider them "corrupt" or "blind".

My opinion is based on facts. Do you want to challenge them?
Or do you think that when a user sends merit only to scammers (as a tema, hero member) does he act honestly?

If a person does not see the obvious facts and protects the scamers, then I called him blind or corrupt, it is so.

[xtraelv]

I find it quite amusing seeing accounts that later get perma-banned getting merit.  All that effort to entice merits by those merit farmers foiled by the system that catches them and locks the account permanently. It shows that some systems are working well.

I also commend merit sources that give merit to new accounts (which are more likely to be farmed accounts) because it can be very hard for genuine newbies to get their first merit and get posting privileges.

The job of a merit source is to give merit to good quality posts. Not to detect them for plagiarism or make political judgments.

The job of the moderators and those reporting posts is to detect plagiarism and detect account farmers.

The job of DTs is to make judgements on the trustworthiness of users. This is subjective and different DTs have different criteria. People don't choose to be a DT. It is other users that select them. It is more of a curse with responsibility.

[IMadeYouReadThis]

The problem with chimik is not in merit, but in the fact that he is protecting a proven scamer (Smart man).
And chimik has an alt which is connected with a set of merit.

I think this is atmost whats wrong here, protecting a merit abuser and account farmer is not what looks trustworthy IMO.

[xtraelv]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5148832.msg51273724#msg51273724
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Looks like you have a bit of a dislike for chimk for calling you out for your Craig Wright support.

[KTChampions]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5148832.msg51273724#msg51273724
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Looks like you have a bit of a dislike for chimk for calling you out for your Craig Wright support.

I call Craig a scamer   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5148832.msg51280182#msg51280182

And i see you want to talk about me but not about scamers that i showed? Nice 

[xtraelv]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5148832.msg51273724#msg51273724
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Looks like you have a bit of a dislike for chimk for calling you out for your Craig Wright support.

I call Craig a scamer   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5148832.msg51280182#msg51280182

And i see you want to talk about me but not about scamers that i showed? Nice  

When someone posts serious allegations in Meta against people who have proven their trust in the past then their character and history becomes relevant when viewing the allegations.

In your accusation you claim that the DTs and merit source are corrupt.

Total corruption in Russian local [DT involved!]

So your historical interaction with those people is of interest.

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[KTChampions]

xtraelv
I like your approach - if you also carefully examine the first post, then you just will not have any questions.
And you will help the forum to get rid of fraudsters 

[xtraelv]

xtraelv
I like your approach - if you also carefully examine the first post, then you just will not have any questions.
And you will help the forum to get rid of fraudsters  

I have read your first post and even struggled through some of the Russian posts with my very poor Russian reading skills.

I see a lot of pointless data and other than having some questions about Smart man (not enough to make a judgement) I disagree with most of the inferences that you are making.

There are a number of people that often have good intentions that draw all sorts of ominous conclusions from assortments of data that do not prove anything.

Sometimes even the village idiot knows how to use Bing or google.

I have no doubt that you have poured over lots of information looking for evidence of systematic corruption. But giving merit for posts, receiving merit for posts, ranking up,  refusing to give a trust rating, having a different opinion, having an alt account or changing your password are all normal actions that are permitted under the current rules.

Instead I see lots of pointless data that does not prove any systematic corruption involving the Russian community or DTs.

The way that I view this is that the DTs feel there is not enough troubling information about Smart man to permanently ruin his trading reputation on bitcointalk. This may change if more information becomes available.

If it is not a systematic problem but just about user Smart man then it should simply be dealt with on the scam accusations board or reputation board rather than meta.

[KTChampions]

xtraelv

Let's look at the question by points:

1.) Smart man is involved in a huge circuit of merit abuse. Yes/No?
2.) Smart man has a lot of alts and with the help of them he deceives customers by making false reviews in his thread. Yes/No?
3.) Smart man is involved in the scam project Adab Solutions. Yes/No?
4.) Smart man was hiring in and offering Spam-service. Yes/No?

If it is not a systematic problem but just about user Smart man then it should simply be dealt with on the scam accusations board or reputation board rather than meta.

If you really carefully read the first post, then you should have noticed that I found a lot of abusers. Smart man was only the beginning of my research.
I came here because I found huge problems in Ru local that no one sees or tries to solve.