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June 25, 2019, 06:32:41 AM
Last edit: June 25, 2019, 06:53:31 AM by Zurcermozz
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Guys, ask ko lang po ito. Bali mag papasukan na and gusto ko parin maging active sa bitcointalk. Tapos nalaman kong may WiFi dun sa school napapasukan ko, balak ko sana mag wifi dun para maging active, Kaso medyo kinakabahan ako baka may nag bibitcointalk din dun ( multiple user ) and i might get ban.

Any information or tips po para malaman ko na may multiple user sa isang Ip address ?
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June 25, 2019, 06:45:31 AM
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Wala naman yata sa (un)official rules na bawal  mag-access ang iba't ibang accounts using the same IP address. That would be unfair also. Can you just imagine kung may magkapatid na nakatira sa isang bahay na parehong active sa forum?

Huwag mo lang i-violate mga serious offenses dito kagaya ng plagiarism, you should be safe.
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June 25, 2019, 07:25:29 AM
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Any information or tips po para malaman ko na may multiple user sa isang Ip address ?
Once you're registered at merong account na dito sa forum, there's no way para malaman yan. But there's a possible way for that lalo na if gusto mo pa lang mag register
or mag register ulit ng new account.
I know lots of users here know the so-called evil points, in which nag kakaroon ng evil points if yung gamit mong IP pag register is nagamit na ng ibang existing users especially sa mga banned accounts or those blacklisted IPs dito sa forum, so you need to pay to remove those.

Sa case mo, there's no need to worry, just be careful na lang since public wifi is not safe to use.
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June 25, 2019, 08:09:15 AM
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Having a multiple accounts is not against the forum rules, so you don't have to worry about it.
In case there are ban accounts that have access the IP you are using, I don't think you'll be caught for ban evasion on that since for sure you're IP will change from time to time.

Good thing you ask it here, it only showed how important your account is to you.
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June 25, 2019, 08:29:11 AM
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...in which nag kakaroon ng evil points if yung gamit mong IP pag register is nagamit na ng ibang existing users especially sa mga banned accounts or those blacklisted IPs dito sa forum, so you need to pay to remove those...

I don't think its all evil units has the same reason, some of thise haven't been used just like mine, when I tried to buy a new sim and used it for my pocket wifi. I think there is such a different reasons on why this forum is marking some IPs that doesnt have anything to do with them yet.

What I'm thinking is, kung ang IP mo ay naging vulnerable sa mga unsafe sites like XXX sites and other things ,what I mean is nakapag visit ka sa mga ganitong sites.
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June 25, 2019, 08:29:43 AM
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Additional information about sa sinabi ni bl4nkcode...
Q: Why is my IP banned? What are those units of evil?
A: Your IP might be banned because it was used by a user that got perma banned. Don't worry - IP bans decay over time if there's not too many of them issued during a small period of time. If you register using a banned IP, are using TOR, VPNs or well known proxies, you will have to pay a small fee. This is to prevent spammers while allowing legitimate members to post without many restrictions.

And share ko lang itong bagong update sa forum na makikita mo list of IP address na ginamit mo sa pag login ng account mo, since you have concern about IP addresses.
https://bitcointalk.org/myips.php

Only span of 30 days lang ang mkikita mo jan na mga IP address na nagamit mo with their specific location of the IP adress na ginamit mo.
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June 25, 2019, 08:49:30 AM
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...in which nag kakaroon ng evil points if yung gamit mong IP pag register is nagamit na ng ibang existing users especially sa mga banned accounts or those blacklisted IPs dito sa forum, so you need to pay to remove those...

I don't think its all evil units has the same reason, some of thise haven't been used just like mine, when I tried to buy a new sim and used it for my pocket wifi. I think there is such a different reasons on why this forum is marking some IPs that doesnt have anything to do with them yet.

It's because of "neighboring IP addresses", kahit magkaiba na IP ginamit mo pero pag may magkakalapit na IP addresses na may mga evil points sa ginamit mo pag gawa ng account posibling madadamay yung bagong IP na gagamitin mo pag gawa ng bagong account.

When someone is banned, their IP and some of their neighboring IPs receive evil points.
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June 25, 2019, 08:53:35 AM
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I think you wouldn't worry about that so much, kahit kung sa public wifi ka nakaconnect. As far as I know, you cannot have the same public IP address unless you are connected to the same router. Some ISP's uses a common terminal or network that are consists of other users as well. So possibly, part of a bigger network ka and kung ano man yung ISP mo, sila yung may control. It's for lowering the amount of IPv4 addresses.

In my opinion, the best way to use public wifi is to use a trusted VPN. Definitely a paid one. It's better safe than sorry, and at least you can connect without it coming back to you and assuring you that your sensitive information is kept away from hackers or something like that. I have been using my password manager's built-in VPN as my protection against those things. Plus points na lang yung safe talaga yung passwords ko.



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June 25, 2019, 09:30:47 AM
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Direct to the point.

-Even though all your classmates nagb'bitcointalk sa school at isa lang gamit na wifi niyo wala naman kinalaman ang IP address doon, even bitcointalk staff can't trace your IP address. You don't need to worry about those things or para mas kampanti you can use VPN as what crwth said for your IP address protection. You can also browse any of the sites even if can't allow in some countries.

In addition, watch this video tutorial from youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ec0t1lNmeU
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June 25, 2019, 10:59:26 AM
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VPN lang kailangan mo para maiwasan ang same user sa same IP. Pero sa pag kakaalam ko hindi ka naman ma baban kahit dalawang user pa sa iisang IP.

Hindi naman pinag babawalan dito pero ang problema lang pag naban ang isa madadamay karin.

try mo tong apps na to sa android Click Me
Or subukan mo gamitin ito for browser https://www.kproxy.com/

Para may iba kang IP instead na local ip.
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June 25, 2019, 01:19:48 PM
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Additional Question lang po, and I am still learning po kaya hope you understand po.

Halimbawa po gumamit ako ng xVPN APP, and it change my IP Address po. May chance din po yung ibang user na gumamit din nung xVPNAPP ay mag kakaroon ng same IP Address katulad ko ?
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June 25, 2019, 06:58:38 PM
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Halimbawa po gumamit ako ng xVPN APP, and it change my IP Address po. May chance din po yung ibang user na gumamit din nung xVPNAPP ay mag kakaroon ng same IP Address katulad ko ?

Depende yan sa VPN service. Merong nagbibigay ng dedicated IP address (para lang sa'yo) at meron naman nagbibigay ng mga shared IP kung saan pwedeng 100 users ang gagamit ng iisang IP. Share IP yung madalas na offer.
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June 25, 2019, 11:03:51 PM
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Halimbawa po gumamit ako ng xVPN APP, and it change my IP Address po. May chance din po yung ibang user na gumamit din nung xVPNAPP ay mag kakaroon ng same IP Address katulad ko ?
Yes, may chance parin na magkaroon kayo ng same IP, kahit hindi xVPNAPP ang gamit. AFAIK, madaming iba ibang VPN na application pero ang IP na binibigay ay halos pare pareho lang din, lalo na yung mga libreng VPN lang or free servers ng ibang VPN app.
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June 25, 2019, 11:08:40 PM
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I think yung mga evil points is para lang yun sa mga users na mag register pa lang, once nagamit ang ip na yun ng ibang users for registration dati may evil points na kung magregister ka ulit ng new account with that IP. In your case meron ka ng account I think walang magiging problema pero try in your own risk.
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June 26, 2019, 07:09:29 AM
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I think yung mga evil points is para lang yun sa mga users na mag register pa lang, once nagamit ang ip na yun ng ibang users for registration dati may evil points na kung magregister ka ulit ng new account with that IP. In your case meron ka ng account I think walang magiging problema pero try in your own risk.

Oo nga, I think yung mga evil points ai yan yun ip na na ban dito sa forum dahil may na break na rules sa forum. Yung sa case mo sa tingin ko hindi ka naman ma ba ban kahit marami users sa isang IP basta wala kang na break na rule like plagiarism. Meron ako kilala na isang wifi ginagamit nila ng kapatid nya di naman din sila na ban at wala din sila na encounter na mga issues regarding sa IP.
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June 26, 2019, 07:39:58 AM
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Additional Question lang po, and I am still learning po kaya hope you understand po.

Halimbawa po gumamit ako ng xVPN APP, and it change my IP Address po. May chance din po yung ibang user na gumamit din nung xVPNAPP ay mag kakaroon ng same IP Address katulad ko ?


Ganito nalang, you do not have to worry that much. There are different countries available for you to choose where to connect depending on which country offers the fast connection. You can connect to a particular country like Turkey or other and your classmate can also use that same VPN you are using with of course DIFFEFENT COUNTRY.

Ganito po ang itsura ng sinasabi ko. I've been using easyvpn downloaded from Google playstore. Screenshot from my phone.


Hope this clarifies your additional question.
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June 26, 2019, 01:50:48 PM
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Para sa ikakampante mo, I created my alt account incase magkaroon ng problema sa account ko like ma-hacked or ma-banned. Hindi problema ang magkaroon ng multiple accounts, actually may mga higher-ups sa forum na may mga alt account for scam busting atbp. Ang dini-discourage lang dito ay ang pagbebenta ng mga accounts at ang paggamit ng maraming accounts para makapanglamang sa kapwa mo which is obviously maling mali talaga.

As long as wala ka namang ginagawang masama dito, hindi ka dapat mabahala sa account mo kasi pwede mo namang i-appeal ang mga bagay na hindi mo naman talaga kasalanan. The only people who can check your IP address are admins and the bitcointalk team of the forum. None of us can determine your IP address para masabing alt account. Also, nave-verify naman yan at lahat chinecheck kung considered ba as multiple user because all of the users ay dumadaan sa proseso when they found something fishy in you.

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June 26, 2019, 04:24:39 PM
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Guys, ask ko lang po ito. Bali mag papasukan na and gusto ko parin maging active sa bitcointalk. Tapos nalaman kong may WiFi dun sa school napapasukan ko, balak ko sana mag wifi dun para maging active, Kaso medyo kinakabahan ako baka may nag bibitcointalk din dun ( multiple user ) and i might get ban.
The best thing you should do is not to trust any free public wifi. PROVIDE YOUR OWN INTERNET CONNECTION AMAP. Pag mayroong isang magaling na hacker na nakaconnect dun sa public wifi or kung siya yung nagpoprovide ng net, malamang pwede nyang makuha yung username and pass mo sa iba't ibang platforms. Pwede din bank accounts mo.


Any information or tips po para malaman ko na may multiple user sa isang Ip address ?
Correct me if I'm wrong but, sa tingin ko wala sa kapangyarihan mo para malaman kung may multiple user sa isang IP address. Moderators lang ang may kakayahan nun. Did you know windice? Sa tingin ko, yung mga nanghuli dun sa mga cheaters na yun ay yung gumawa mismo ng windice, nacheck sa IP address. Corelating windidce sa forum na to, probably mods lang may kayang magcheck nun.
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