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June 25, 2019, 10:22:34 AM
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New $35 Raspberry Pi is the Most Powerful Yet for Running a Full Bitcoin Node ...
- https://cointelegraph.com/news/new-35-raspberry-pi-is-the-most-powerful-yet-for-running-a-full-bitcoin-node

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June 25, 2019, 11:52:41 AM
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One small detail the article forgets to mention, you will still need at least a 256GB card and pretty soon a 512Gb one to run the full node, the package doesn't come with one and the cheapest is around 30-40$.

Funny how the site they mention http://www.raspberrypifullnode.com/ still talks about 64 gb Tongue


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June 25, 2019, 12:33:04 PM
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One small detail the article forgets to mention, you will still need at least a 256GB card and pretty soon a 512Gb one to run the full node, the package doesn't come with one and the cheapest is around 30-40$.

Funny how the site they mention http://www.raspberrypifullnode.com/ still talks about 64 gb Tongue


USB hard disk? Especially a powered dock, 2tb used is only around $20. Plenty of space for the blockchain.

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June 25, 2019, 01:37:18 PM
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Wouldnt an atomic pi which was available a month ago be more efficient since they run on an atom x86 architecture and cheaper then a pi?
They cost $30 last time I went hunting on the price.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rywLHa1i9yk
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June 25, 2019, 04:45:32 PM
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Wouldnt an atomic pi which was available a month ago be more efficient since they run on an atom x86 architecture and cheaper then a pi?
They cost $30 last time I went hunting on the price.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rywLHa1i9yk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4_fjwz08-8

No and No, atomic pi uses x86 architecture and is less efficient than the soc on the pi, it's not cheaper since everyone and there mother also needs a breakout board to power the damn thing.

The atomic pi without a breakout board to power easily is now a$43 and some change on Amazon, I do remember hearing there prices increased.

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June 25, 2019, 05:48:36 PM
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USB hard disk? Especially a powered dock, 2tb used is only around $20. Plenty of space for the blockchain.

Used HDD? I wouldn't use it, especially to run full node & leave it 24/7, who knows the remaining life of the HDD.

Wouldnt an atomic pi which was available a month ago be more efficient since they run on an atom x86 architecture and cheaper then a pi?

Then Raspberry Pi 0 is better option, it's only $5 & still good enough to run full node.

FYI, Raspberry Pi focused on cheap barebone PC & open-source hardware rather than performance

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One small detail the article forgets to mention, you will still need at least a 256GB card and pretty soon a 512Gb one to run the full node, the package doesn't come with one and the cheapest is around 30-40$.

Funny how the site they mention http://www.raspberrypifullnode.com/ still talks about 64 gb Tongue



TBH I'd use my HDD docks and just place my unused HDD in there if I were to run a full node. Pretty sure people with the knowledge on what to do with Raspberry Pi and how it works would have had some extra PC components lying around and I'm one of them (lol). Anyhow, knowing that $/GB has been pretty much going down year by year, it's easy to find the right storage device if one is to run a node. Everything is coming cheaper for the PC industry these days, well at least the outdated (?) components.

Used HDD? I wouldn't use it, especially to run full node & leave it 24/7, who knows the remaining life of the HDD.

True, I wouldn't buy one but if I have a spare lying around, that would do. Even if you can utilize the help of HD Sentinel and other similar software, I'm still not comfortable buying used HDDs for important uses, at all.

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June 25, 2019, 11:21:56 PM
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One small detail the article forgets to mention, you will still need at least a 256GB card and pretty soon a 512Gb one to run the full node, the package doesn't come with one and the cheapest is around 30-40$.

Funny how the site they mention http://www.raspberrypifullnode.com/ still talks about 64 gb Tongue


USB hard disk? Especially a powered dock, 2tb used is only around $20. Plenty of space for the blockchain.

Make sure it's low power. The new Pi is more power hungry.
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TBH I'd use my HDD docks and just place my unused HDD in there if I were to run a full node. Pretty sure people with the knowledge on what to do with Raspberry Pi and how it works would have had some extra PC components lying around and I'm one of them (lol). Anyhow, knowing that $/GB has been pretty much going down year by year, it's easy to find the right storage device if one is to run a node. Everything is coming cheaper for the PC industry these days, well at least the outdated (?) components.

It's not like spare parts are worthless, you could always sell your old HDD and dock to a guy that wants to run a bitcoins node for 25$!  Grin
So, it's still a small investment on top of those 35$.

And I wouldn't go for any older HDD with less than 500 Gb. Knowing what a pain in the ass was to sync it two years ago I wouldn't want to do it again when the chain would be twice the size. Cards are also silent, unlike old hdd drives, but maybe in a few yers, we can all switch to SSDs, a 500gb evo is already under the 100$ marks.


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Then Raspberry Pi 0 is better option, it's only $5 & still good enough to run full node.
FYI, Raspberry Pi focused on cheap barebone PC & open-source hardware rather than performance
Most of the time i ran into memory problems when side loading stuff next to running commands on the pi node. The biggest pros for me is the memory gain with the 4gb version.
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June 26, 2019, 08:50:41 PM
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If we want this kind of devices to be popular among the mass we should probably make them multiple purpose.  I should be able to do other stuff with it aside running full node. It could be made as a modular device with easy to find parts.



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June 26, 2019, 09:45:11 PM
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Then Raspberry Pi 0 is better option, it's only $5 & still good enough to run full node.

Sure, but Pi4 means you can run extra stuff in addition to a Bitcoin node

24/7/365 you could have running:

  • private Email
  • private social media
  • lightning node
  • personal dropbox
  • sell stuff on openbazaar
  • trade coins on Bisq
  • remote control of anything on your home network (tell your robot butler to start cooking, turn the lights on and off to thwart burglars, etc Grin)

The list of things to do gets bigger, computing boards keep getting more powerful, and the Bitcoin devs keep reducing the resources needed to run Bitcoin (except disk space, of course)

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Then Raspberry Pi 0 is better option, it's only $5 & still good enough to run full node.
FYI, Raspberry Pi focused on cheap barebone PC & open-source hardware rather than performance
Most of the time i ran into memory problems when side loading stuff next to running commands on the pi node. The biggest pros for me is the memory gain with the 4gb version.
Yeah they just released the pi 4 on monday so the cost of the newer version is higher if you go with the 4gb and need it to run other apps in the background while hosting the node.
https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-4-48-hours-later

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June 27, 2019, 06:47:21 PM
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Sure, but Pi4 means you can run extra stuff in addition to a Bitcoin node

You're right, i only mention Pi 0 because i was talking about possible lowest cost

The list of things to do gets bigger, computing boards keep getting more powerful, and the Bitcoin devs keep reducing the resources needed to run Bitcoin (except disk space, of course)

You meant more efficient, since avg. block size increased, theoretically slightly better device is required.

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The Pi is a cool toy and you can do a lot of things with it. It's also a lot lower power consumption than the server, but not sure by how much, or if that is small enough to ignore.

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June 30, 2019, 12:34:33 AM
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Lets say I run a Bitcoin Node with a Rasberry Pi are there any benefits for me?
Is it possible to get a small share of Bitcoin when u run a node?

I would like to know, I think the rasberry pi is very handy for bitcoin related stuff, and I didn't know you could also run your own private email and private social media with it how does that work?
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Definitely must try this out. I am deeply involved in RP
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July 07, 2019, 04:39:47 PM
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I even found out that the Raspberry Pi can run Bitcoin Nodes in full. Compared to the price that must be paid, I think this is worth more. Well, even I think with a little modification, maybe the performance can also develop from the default.

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July 07, 2019, 06:07:29 PM
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I didn't know you could also run your own private email and private social media with it how does that work?

private email
  • set up tor (or i2p... or cjdns, but fewer people use those)
  • set up a hidden service (or just use your ip address if you go the cjdns route)
  • set up an email service (use dovecot & smtpd for the easiest setup IMO)
  • use the hidden service (or cjdns ip) as your domain (i.e. the @website.com bit)
  • profit

for private social media, mastodon and diaspora are the bigger ones. Lot of Bitcoin people on mastodon. Same basic process as email really.

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