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October 05, 2019, 06:31:02 AM
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I'm seeing some relative strength vs. BTC in some altcoin charts. Ethereum, Ripple, Stellar to name a few, steadily rising for the past month. Seems odd considering all the blood in the BTC market. I would have expected altcoins to fall harder.

Could that indicate we're close to a bottom in altcoin/BTC charts? Is this guy onto something with his market vision?

 
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October 05, 2019, 08:07:55 AM
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I'm seeing some relative strength vs. BTC in some altcoin charts. Ethereum, Ripple, Stellar to name a few, steadily rising for the past month. Seems odd considering all the blood in the BTC market. I would have expected altcoins to fall harder.

Could that indicate we're close to a bottom in altcoin/BTC charts? Is this guy onto something with his market vision?

after about 1.5 years of dumping some of the altcoins are having some reversals but it  doesn't mean they are rising and it has no indication about the strength of them. they are at this point purely dead cat bounces. for example in case of XRP we saw that when bitcoin was deadly stable above $10k it had a little pump which was crushed under the dumping load and the price crashed down again and then crashed again when bitcoin price went below $10k.

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October 05, 2019, 10:54:32 AM
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I'm seeing some relative strength vs. BTC in some altcoin charts. Ethereum, Ripple, Stellar to name a few, steadily rising for the past month. Seems odd considering all the blood in the BTC market. I would have expected altcoins to fall harder.

Could that indicate we're close to a bottom in altcoin/BTC charts? Is this guy onto something with his market vision?

after about 1.5 years of dumping some of the altcoins are having some reversals but it  doesn't mean they are rising and it has no indication about the strength of them. they are at this point purely dead cat bounces. for example in case of XRP we saw that when bitcoin was deadly stable above $10k it had a little pump which was crushed under the dumping load and the price crashed down again and then crashed again when bitcoin price went below $10k.

It's not a fully reversal, if we look at the dominance rate of BTC, we can say that as it nothing happens with the entire altcoins market.
We might see some which recovers, especially the BNB coin but in overall total, coins that have recover a bit are just a small percentage of the total number of legit altcoins in the market.

The rally that we like to see does not happen yet, so we might have to wait a little longer before we will finally witness it.

 
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October 05, 2019, 12:05:08 PM
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I'm seeing some relative strength vs. BTC in some altcoin charts. Ethereum, Ripple, Stellar to name a few, steadily rising for the past month. Seems odd considering all the blood in the BTC market. I would have expected altcoins to fall harder.

Could that indicate we're close to a bottom in altcoin/BTC charts? Is this guy onto something with his market vision?

We must surely be seeing different charts. While Bitcoin has lost 20% from weeks staying at 10k or thereabouts, I have seen my litecoin slip from 77 to 55. Ether from 220 to 175. A little worse off for these old alts than for BTC but always to be expected and, probably just a reflection of how things always have been medium term for alt btc relations.

Even the same reality happens if we compare current btc price to 2019 ATH. Lost 40%. Same for alts hasnt it? Taking ETH example of 335 to 175 anyway.

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October 05, 2019, 05:38:58 PM
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I'm seeing some relative strength vs. BTC in some altcoin charts. Ethereum, Ripple, Stellar to name a few, steadily rising for the past month. Seems odd considering all the blood in the BTC market. I would have expected altcoins to fall harder.

Could that indicate we're close to a bottom in altcoin/BTC charts? Is this guy onto something with his market vision?

We must surely be seeing different charts. While Bitcoin has lost 20% from weeks staying at 10k or thereabouts, I have seen my litecoin slip from 77 to 55. Ether from 220 to 175.

compare BTC/USD to ETH/USD for the period of september 6 through today. the BTC price has dropped 26%. the ETH price stayed flat at $175. the difference is very noticeable on the ETH/BTC chart.

under really bearish conditions (like the 2018 bear market) we saw the opposite---alts fell much harder than BTC. so something else is probably happening.

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October 05, 2019, 08:54:13 PM
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I'm seeing some relative strength vs. BTC in some altcoin charts. Ethereum, Ripple, Stellar to name a few, steadily rising for the past month. Seems odd considering all the blood in the BTC market. I would have expected altcoins to fall harder.

Could that indicate we're close to a bottom in altcoin/BTC charts? Is this guy onto something with his market vision?

after about 1.5 years of dumping some of the altcoins are having some reversals but it  doesn't mean they are rising and it has no indication about the strength of them. they are at this point purely dead cat bounces. for example in case of XRP we saw that when bitcoin was deadly stable above $10k it had a little pump which was crushed under the dumping load and the price crashed down again and then crashed again when bitcoin price went below $10k.

Yes I agree. Alts appear mostly dead at this point with lame pumps here and there. Still scratching my head on why some people still expect their favorite coin to go ballistic any minute out of nowhere  Huh
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October 06, 2019, 03:15:23 AM
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Altcoins continue to increase their market share, although at a very slow pace. On the other hand, Bitcoin is now showing signs of stabilization, at around $8,000 per coin level. The next 1-2 weeks will be interesting.

Total crypto market cap: $220,396,037,013

Bitcoin: $148,768,292,889 (67.500%)
Bitcoin forks: $5,925,562,165 (2.689%)
Stablecoins: $4,985,689,938 (2.262%)
Altcoins: $60,716,492,021 (27.549%)

This is the change compared to my last post:

Bitcoin: -0.324%
Bitcoin forks: -0.413%
Stablecoins: +0.433%
Altcoins: +0.303%

So here is the latest stats. The remarkable thing is that stablecoins continue to increase their market cap. And USDT (Tether) is now the 4th largest cryptocurrency in terms of market cap (and #1 in terms of trade volume).

Total crypto market cap: $217,277,897,232

Bitcoin: $145,781,009,872 (67.094%)
Bitcoin forks: $5,728,651,945 (2.637%)
Stablecoins: $5,059,817,720 (2.329%)
Altcoins: $60,708,417,695 (27.940%)

This is the change compared to my last post:

Bitcoin: -0.406%
Bitcoin forks: -0.052%
Stablecoins: +0.067%
Altcoins: +0.392%

If I may ask, what site you are using to get this statistics? I am only checking in CMC and I don't see this kind of stats.

I am just adding the market caps given by CMC.
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October 06, 2019, 06:30:02 AM
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I'm seeing some relative strength vs. BTC in some altcoin charts. Ethereum, Ripple, Stellar to name a few, steadily rising for the past month. Seems odd considering all the blood in the BTC market. I would have expected altcoins to fall harder.

Could that indicate we're close to a bottom in altcoin/BTC charts? Is this guy onto something with his market vision?

after about 1.5 years of dumping some of the altcoins are having some reversals but it  doesn't mean they are rising and it has no indication about the strength of them. they are at this point purely dead cat bounces.

Maybe they are, maybe not. Bitcoin bulls were shitting all over altcoins in 2016 too, making the same assumptions. Then the 2017 bubble happened.

I'm not willing to baghold anything down here, but I'm definitely keeping an eye on these charts. It might take a few more months for altcoins to bottom out but I'm seeing signs of accumulation.

 
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October 06, 2019, 11:46:54 AM
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There have been high regulations coming regards to altcoins recently. Countries are trying to regulate ICOs and altcoins which has shifted interest to BTC which seems more trustworthy and hence, the dominance has been in rise since April. 71 is just a number on coinmarketcap but in actual the percentage is pretty high. But I think right now since BTC is moving sideways, interest might shift a bit to altcoins and dominance might decrease.

 
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October 07, 2019, 02:47:56 AM
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Maybe they are, maybe not. Bitcoin bulls were shitting all over altcoins in 2016 too, making the same assumptions. Then the 2017 bubble happened.

I'm not willing to baghold anything down here, but I'm definitely keeping an eye on these charts. It might take a few more months for altcoins to bottom out but I'm seeing signs of accumulation.

Bubbles don't normally repeat with the same asset. You can check the 1999/2000 dotcom boom. Most of the stocks which crashed by 99% then didn't made a recovery. Only a very few of them such as Microsoft and Apple recovered to new ATH levels. The same is going to happen with the altcoins. 2017 was the peak year for them. The vast majority of the altcoins are never again going to achieve the peak levels that they attained in 2017. However, a select few may thrive and reach new peaks within the next 4-5 years.
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October 08, 2019, 03:29:32 PM
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Regularly there is minor change in the dominance level of bitcoin, and now it has fallen low to 67%, by the time there is good growth with the altcoins dominance. Particularly ethereum dominance have risen above 8.5%. This is where the ethereum market gets to be stronger against the bitcoin price.

This pattern of growth can be expected to take place over the falling months and a large scale growth by the end days of December. As ethereum has its V2 by the starting month of the year we can expect the dominance level of ethereum move higher than 15%. From that point more possibilities were there for mutual growth with bitcoin.




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So here is the latest stats. The remarkable thing is that stablecoins continue to increase their market cap. And USDT (Tether) is now the 4th largest cryptocurrency in terms of market cap (and #1 in terms of trade volume).

Total crypto market cap: $217,277,897,232

Bitcoin: $145,781,009,872 (67.094%)
Bitcoin forks: $5,728,651,945 (2.637%)
Stablecoins: $5,059,817,720 (2.329%)
Altcoins: $60,708,417,695 (27.940%)

This is the change compared to my last post:

Bitcoin: -0.406%
Bitcoin forks: -0.052%
Stablecoins: +0.067%
Altcoins: +0.392%


So here is the latest stats. The altcoins continue to increase their market cap. Bitcoin dominance is now down to 66.5%, below the psychologically important two-third level.

Total crypto market cap: $229,942,242,997

Bitcoin: $153,002,753,553 (66.540%)
Bitcoin forks: $7,223,307,296 (3.141%)
Stablecoins: $5,008,375,737 (2.178%)
Altcoins: $64,707,806,411 (28.141%)

This is the change compared to my last post:

Bitcoin: -0.555%
Bitcoin forks: +0.505%
Stablecoins: -0.151%
Altcoins: +0.200%
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Total crypto market cap: $229,942,242,997

Bitcoin: $153,002,753,553 (66.540%)
Bitcoin forks: $7,223,307,296 (3.141%)
Stablecoins: $5,008,375,737 (2.178%)
Altcoins: $64,707,806,411 (28.141%)

This is the change compared to my last post:

Bitcoin: -0.555%
Bitcoin forks: +0.505%
Stablecoins: -0.151%
Altcoins: +0.200%

Compared to my last post, Bitcoin has gained around 1% market share, with all the other 3 categories losing their share.
 
Bitcoin: $165,119,849,713 (67.397%)
Bitcoin forks: $7,666,932,613 (3.129%)
Stablecoins: $5,030,243,349 (2.053%)
Altcoins: $67,177,008,357 (27.420%)

This is the change compared to my last post:

Bitcoin: +0.858%
Bitcoin forks: -0.012%
Stablecoins: -0.125%
Altcoins: -0.721%
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Compared to my last post, Bitcoin has gained around 1% market share, with all the other 3 categories losing their share.
 
Bitcoin: $165,119,849,713 (67.397%)
Bitcoin forks: $7,666,932,613 (3.129%)
Stablecoins: $5,030,243,349 (2.053%)
Altcoins: $67,177,008,357 (27.420%)

This is the change compared to my last post:

Bitcoin: +0.858%
Bitcoin forks: -0.012%
Stablecoins: -0.125%
Altcoins: -0.721%
Appreciated what you do mate to keeping the data updated , I'll just suggest you to to recap all of these on monthly basis Wink .

However with the bitcoin dominance recently this year seems to continue and most altcoins still in the pressure where it should start to follow rising , I think this is still the best time to compounding altcoin as much as possible and think about 10x or 5x is reasonable target for me.

 
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Compared to my last post, Bitcoin has gained around 1% market share, with all the other 3 categories losing their share.
 
Bitcoin: $165,119,849,713 (67.397%)
Bitcoin forks: $7,666,932,613 (3.129%)
Stablecoins: $5,030,243,349 (2.053%)
Altcoins: $67,177,008,357 (27.420%)

This is the change compared to my last post:

Bitcoin: +0.858%
Bitcoin forks: -0.012%
Stablecoins: -0.125%
Altcoins: -0.721%

1% decline in the market share of Bitcoin and a massive 25% decline in the market capitalization since my last post.

Bitcoin: $123,919,187,793 (66.182%)
Bitcoin forks: $5,642,339,418 (3.013%)
Stablecoins: $5,006,203,564 (2.674%)
Altcoins: $52,673,151,681 (28.131%)

This is the change compared to my last post:

Bitcoin: -1.216%
Bitcoin forks: -0.116%
Stablecoins: +0.620%
Altcoins: +0.711%
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The Bitcoin dominance has fallen by almost 5% (from 71% to 66%) in just two months time. At the same time, it will be wrong to say that the altcoins are making a come back, because if we go by the absolute value, their market capitalization has also declined. The only positive thing is that they haven't gone down as steeply when compared to Bitcoin.

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The Bitcoin dominance has fallen by almost 5% (from 71% to 66%) in just two months time. At the same time, it will be wrong to say that the altcoins are making a come back, because if we go by the absolute value, their market capitalization has also declined. The only positive thing is that they haven't gone down as steeply when compared to Bitcoin.

That's the sad thing since the whole market are suffering, what we like to see is that when BTC drop its dominant rate, that will result to an increase of altcoins marketcap, but its not what is happening now.

we can see it here, the total marketcap falls below $200 billion which we almost hit to $300 when there was a little pump of bitcoin.
overall, the market is still struggling now, its not stable yet and with that, we can't expect investors eagerness to invest at the moment.

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The Bitcoin dominance has fallen by almost 5% (from 71% to 66%) in just two months time. At the same time, it will be wrong to say that the altcoins are making a come back, because if we go by the absolute value, their market capitalization has also declined. The only positive thing is that they haven't gone down as steeply when compared to Bitcoin.
at the moment it is still fairly high, 66% of the dominance of bitcoin, everyone expects dominance to decrease sharply,
but it hasn't happened yet, maybe the whales is still playing with bitcoin,

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