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September 27, 2019, 01:45:07 PM
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Great try by Op but still we not sure that we can see the Satoshi in the white light and I do not believe that he will comes and show his face off first of all. Then how we can expect these answers from Satoshi.

Lets hope with OP, May be he may pass the anonymous mail to you Grin Grin Grin

 
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September 27, 2019, 02:07:17 PM
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Hello Satoshi

we think that you have created a bitcoin prize competition and that the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain. We are trying to solve it and will move the rewarding coins. If you want to add something to that statement, please don't hesitate.

Thank you

Maybe some others are also trying -- Maybe Satoshi created the greatest prize competition https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150688.0

I think he did. I'm sure that Satoshi has been through a lot of trial and error proceedure and testings. I have no doubt that he has creating things like the greatest prize competition. We all know that Satoshi has been successful will Bitcoin through several trial and error.
Yes there is a difference from "lost coins" i mean people who lose access to their coins, pc crash and no backup, forget and throw away there pc, and yes Satoshi i think create a prize competition but i don't think private keys can be found from blockchain.
He is or was the greatest cryptographer to ever exist to be able to create the thing such as the blockchain which has stood the test of 10 years of attacks and people trying to break the chains. Wink
I think he would of put something in there and a way to unlock the prize at the end of the journey for the right person.


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September 27, 2019, 02:28:35 PM
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It's hard to imagine, what could happen, if Satoshi will read and, moreover, answer to OP for his letter  Grin
In case of any activity from mysterious Satoshi all crypto community will be extremely excited.

 
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September 27, 2019, 03:03:54 PM
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Great try by Op but still we not sure that we can see the Satoshi in the white light and I do not believe that he will comes and show his face off first of all. Then how we can expect these answers from Satoshi.

Lets hope with OP, May be he may pass the anonymous mail to you Grin Grin Grin
It's hard to imagine, what could happen, if Satoshi will read and, moreover, answer to OP for his letter  Grin
In case of any activity from mysterious Satoshi all crypto community will be extremely excited.
I would just write-Thank you!

We hope that one day we will be able to move the rewarding coins. It will support Bitcoin and the community.
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September 27, 2019, 03:41:40 PM
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I would like to ask Satoshi about whether to expect a new project from him and what awaits us in the future
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September 29, 2019, 04:26:17 PM
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Who will win the race and get the early coins?

Quantum computing or solving the "Satoshi Prize Competition".
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September 29, 2019, 04:40:40 PM
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Who heard about that Satoshi reveal website? The picture looks like CGI, it definitely doesn't look like a real person. Most likely it's a deepfake and that isn't even a real person. Has anyone found their identity? At least it looks pretty real. Although not real enough to fool everyone.
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September 30, 2019, 04:56:39 PM
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I think Satoshi knew about Quantum computing but he thought they're not coming any time soon yet still they're not in existence. And someday even if the quantum computers are active the bitcoin developers can actually implement another form of security to bypass them. People also get better with time just like computers do.

If he knew about Quantum computing, then he also knew that some day the early mined coins will be moved. And he didn't move these coins.


That means

2. Satoshi created the greatest prize competition and the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150688.0

and privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain = quantum computer?

Satoshi, please move your coins. Otherwise we assume that the unmoved early coins are a prize competition.
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October 01, 2019, 04:18:14 PM
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We think that a development of Bitcoin is impossible without solving the 'shalecoin' issue, coins with no owner https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5134441.0
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October 01, 2019, 04:47:26 PM
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Why is P2PKH used instead of the simpler P2PK?
https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/72184/why-is-p2pkh-used-instead-of-the-simpler-p2pk/72201#72201
Pieter Wuille:
The original reason why addresses were a public key hashes is something you'll need to ask Satoshi. My guess however is that it was just shorter and more convenient (note that compressed public keys weren't known at the time). .. One often repeated argument in favor is quantum resistance.

Our guess is that he knew that the early mined coins will be moved one day. So he created a 'prize competition'. Otherwise he could move the coins to quantum resistant P2PKH addresses, but he did not and is not doing.

The only question is:


Who will win the race and get the early coins?

Quantum computing or solving the "Satoshi Prize Competition".


Nobody can stop that race.
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October 08, 2019, 04:07:19 PM
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Satoshi, please move your coins. Otherwise we assume that the unmoved early coins are a prize competition.

No, he is not moving the coins.
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October 12, 2019, 12:56:44 PM
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Antonopoulos: Google’s ‘Quantum Supremacy’ Has No Impact on Bitcoin
https://cointelegraph.com/news/antonopoulos-googles-quantum-supremacy-has-no-impact-on-bitcoin

Nonetheless, becoming quantum-resistant, at least in terms of signature algorithms, is on Bitcoin’s roadmap as a necessary step, he added.
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October 12, 2019, 02:45:34 PM
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This topic is really funny. The so called Satoshis Treasure is not made by Satoshi himself and this is have no relation to satoshis bitcoins. Satoshis Treasure is a game wherein the scale is global and we have to find the hidden keys to unlock the 1 million dollar worth of bitcoin as a price. This is like pokemon go but it is much more bigger since people across the globe needs to collaborate to solve the puzzle to ultimately find the keys and win the price.

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October 17, 2019, 04:47:14 PM
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December 2015 a Bitcointalk member discovered a puzzle transaction while playing around with his bot:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg13381244#msg13381244
At that time nobody declared such a puzzle transaction which was created January 2015 until the creator of that competition came out 2 years later:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg18765941#msg18765941
As of 01/10/2019 there are still more than 100 BTC to win. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166284.0

We think that the early mined coins of Satoshi are also a prize competition and that Satoshi is waiting this coins to be moved. We also think that he will not respond after somebody moves the first coins but it will be a message to the Bitcoin community that the private keys are somehow on the blockchain. If Satoshi disagreed with that conclusion he would have moved the coins to other addresses.
Interesting hypothesis, but these could have also happened...

- He lost the keys (James Caan doesn't know how to do backups)
- He became incapacitated in some way, and family/friends didn't know he was Satoshi, or how to recover the funds
- He saw how big Bitcoin's economy had become, and chose to destroy (or put on ice) his private keys, knowing that if the early blocks move it could crash the economy
Yes, almightyruler, anything could have happened. And Satoshi knew that all. He tested all the blockchain with more computers before releasing the applications. He knew what can happen.

Gavin Andresen started a project to give away free Bitcoins https://freebitcoins.appspot.com/ (no more working) and Satoshi wrote June 2010:
Excellent choice of a first project, nice work. I had planned to do this exact thing if someone else didn't do it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183.msg1620#msg1620

He waited but thought that someone else will do it. We think that he is waiting that someone moves the early mined coins to show to the Bitcoin community that it's a prize competition and that the private keys are somehow on the blockchain.
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October 18, 2019, 02:52:54 PM
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Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - 1,5 million Bitcoins - We need answers

As you can see on the fifth graph here http://bitcoin.sipa.be/ , for many months Bitcoin was very unknown to the public and because of that difficulty didn't change to the upside. If I have understood it correctly around 1,5 million Bitcoins were created from February 2009 until the end of same year. Also if I have understood it correctly very few people mined under this time period making the conclusion that Satoshi Nakamoto and a few more people have a considerable amount of Bitcoins (worth today around 16 million dollars). You could also suppose that a majority of this coins are in the hand of Satoshi Nakamoto. Today it has gone more than two years from the birth of Bitcoin, I am convinced that Nakamoto has big plans for Bitcoin and he/she/they have put considerable amount of time and effort in this interesting project.

We think that Satoshi has created a Bitcoin prize competition and that the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain.
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October 18, 2019, 03:24:17 PM
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Sometimes it's crazy to think things about bitcoin. Until now Satoshi nakamoto remains anonymous and maybe even we ask a lot of questions there is no real Satoshi nakamoto that will appear and answer those questions. If there will be an open later of all the answers to our questions,do you believe that it came from real Satoshi?  Shocked

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Satoshi wrote:

SHA-256 is very strong.  It's not like the incremental step from MD5 to SHA1.  It can last several decades unless there's some massive breakthrough attack.

But he did not transfer the early mined coins to SHA-256/RIPEMD addresses. It would change the structure of the prize competition.

* 100% sure that it is a prize competition
* 100% sure that you can solve it only with the blockchain
* still trying to solve it
* one day someone will solve it

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October 18, 2019, 04:42:34 PM
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Hello Satoshi

we think that you have created a bitcoin prize competition and that the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain. We are trying to solve it and will move the rewarding coins. If you want to add something to that statement, please don't hesitate.

Thank you

I agree and would say

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Satoshi July 29, 2010: If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=532.msg6306#msg6306
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Look at these 19 public keys:

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04b18527cf6f53ad751f90faad335b094fe5129ca6133a24b901af545bb1b067189574c52a5c8ce0be292e1304a96b77cde70ccf16324717c218c89ef7bc03e5c9
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04e76b0e053769e7b213d067f3b5f82b428cec48d3a217a7623d56b69ad4428618185f2d59c3263a50a7887364dbc3dfc60b5f461cbeb57af3cd0121c0e59617da
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They correspond to uncompressed addresses with the first transactions in 2011 year, and fund release only in September 2019. The amounts for every address are 100-500BTC. For example the first 3 addresses (released 147BTC, 122BTC and 147BTC) are:
13GUJutC6GKgJQTcGzCtznDDYFQKVJFVwp
13Sa73PU9Ar5sE4SdFcBdbg9ntbNcMQhaA
14k4GhqA1svNZPbssdAjgdnfzWTpAigZVH

Is this Satoshi releasing his early mined funds? This could not be a luck, so huge luck.

I'm not the author of these pubkeys collection. I found it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg52879592#msg52879592

This puzzle is very strange. If it's for measuring the world's brute forcing capacity, 161-256 are just a waste (RIPEMD160 entropy is filled by 160, and by all of P2PKH Bitcoin). The puzzle creator could improve the puzzle's utility without bringing in any extra funds from outside - just spend 161-256 across to the unsolved portion 51-160, and roughly treble the puzzle's content density.

If on the other hand there's a pattern to find... well... that's awfully open-ended... can we have a hint or two? Cheesy

I am the creator.

You are quite right, 161-256 are silly.  I honestly just did not think of this.  What is especially embarrassing, is this did not occur to me once, in two years.  By way of excuse, I was not really thinking much about the puzzle at all.

I will make up for two years of stupidity.  I will spend from 161-256 to the unsolved parts, as you suggest.  In addition, I intend to add further funds.  My aim is to boost the density by a factor of 10, from 0.001*length(key) to 0.01*length(key).  Probably in the next few weeks.  At any rate, when I next have an extended period of quiet and calm, to construct the new transaction carefully.

A few words about the puzzle.  There is no pattern.  It is just consecutive keys from a deterministic wallet (masked with leading 000...0001 to set difficulty).  It is simply a crude measuring instrument, of the cracking strength of the community.

Finally, I wish to express appreciation of the efforts of all developers of new cracking tools and technology.  The "large bitcoin collider" is especially innovative and interesting!

saatoshi_rising, are you satoshi? If you don't want to tell something, we respect your privacy! Maybe you could support us here:

Maybe Satoshi created the greatest prize competition https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150688.0
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Hello Satoshi

we think that you have created a bitcoin prize competition and that the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain. We are trying to solve it and will move the rewarding coins. If you want to add something to that statement, please don't hesitate.

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Hello Satoshi

for a sound development of Bitcoin, we would like to ask you to give us some information on the keys of the early mined coins. It would help the community through making Bitcoin more predictable.

Thank you



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we would like to ask you to give us some information on the keys of the early mined coins.
He did already.

December 2015 a Bitcointalk member discovered a puzzle transaction while playing around with his bot:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg13381244#msg13381244
At that time nobody declared such a puzzle transaction which was created January 2015 until the creator of that competition came out 2 years later:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg18765941#msg18765941
As of 01/10/2019 there are still more than 100 BTC to win. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166284.0

We think that the early mined coins of Satoshi are also a prize competition and that Satoshi is waiting this coins to be moved. We also think that he will not respond after somebody moves the first coins but it will be a message to the Bitcoin community that the private keys are somehow on the blockchain. If Satoshi disagreed with that conclusion he would have moved the coins to other addresses.

Is 'saatoshi_rising' Satoshi wanting to tell us something?
What do you mean?

This puzzle is very strange. If it's for measuring the world's brute forcing capacity, 161-256 are just a waste (RIPEMD160 entropy is filled by 160, and by all of P2PKH Bitcoin). The puzzle creator could improve the puzzle's utility without bringing in any extra funds from outside - just spend 161-256 across to the unsolved portion 51-160, and roughly treble the puzzle's content density.

If on the other hand there's a pattern to find... well... that's awfully open-ended... can we have a hint or two? Cheesy

I am the creator.

You are quite right, 161-256 are silly.  I honestly just did not think of this.  What is especially embarrassing, is this did not occur to me once, in two years.  By way of excuse, I was not really thinking much about the puzzle at all.

I will make up for two years of stupidity.  I will spend from 161-256 to the unsolved parts, as you suggest.  In addition, I intend to add further funds.  My aim is to boost the density by a factor of 10, from 0.001*length(key) to 0.01*length(key).  Probably in the next few weeks.  At any rate, when I next have an extended period of quiet and calm, to construct the new transaction carefully.

A few words about the puzzle.  There is no pattern.  It is just consecutive keys from a deterministic wallet (masked with leading 000...0001 to set difficulty).  It is simply a crude measuring instrument, of the cracking strength of the community.

Finally, I wish to express appreciation of the efforts of all developers of new cracking tools and technology.  The "large bitcoin collider" is especially innovative and interesting!
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