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June 30, 2019, 08:36:36 PM
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Currently looking at CSW's claims in regards to leaving Bitcoin because of Silk Road etc.,

Here is a recent post of mine that was deleted from the moderated BSV thread in the alt. boards of this forum ...

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Reasons why Satoshi left

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175.0

... Sirius, Theymos and others didn t.

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TBH that thread is one of the reasons I initially left this forum and Bitcoin (returning in 2013).

I don't know if that thread is a reason the real Satoshi left. However, forums are places for open (and private) discussions concerning many subject topics, hence the reason why forums (or threads) should not be used to help spread 'false' narratives and/or mis-information!

Note that I did not post anything in that thread and neither did the 'Satoshi' forum account either.

The thread originator is this guy ...
- https://www.askgamblers.com/forum/topic/3057-dragons-tale-an-introduction/
- https://bensonsamuel.com/tag/andrew-tepper/

~ Who potentially owes people (including myself) a lot of money (bitcoin) for running a then unlicensed?!? and untested ('live' in-development / play-testing), gambling environment with highly questionable (unprovable!?!) odds, whilst clearly presenting a more dubious sense of morality here ... etc., ?!?

I cannot speak for Sirius, Theymos and others posting in that thread (Gavin Andresen included!).

Moreover though, two wrongs don't make a right!

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5148607.0
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4630066.msg49823597#msg49823597

P.S. I only do truth, I have nothing to hide!

P.P.S. If CSW ever 'proves' he is/was one of Satoshi he/they (and/or) his companies are also going to potentially be owing myself (and many others) a lot of money (bitcoin).

Wondering if anyone knows of any links (even tenuous) between this fellow, CSW and/or Calvin Ayre ?

Basically, it seems quite remarkable to myself that DT was available so soon after Bitcoin's release.

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June 30, 2019, 10:15:32 PM
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"Part 1. Cryptography Mailing List https://bit.ly/2RkaSZK  > 8 Jan 2009 - Satoshi announces Bitcoin v0.1 > 19 Jan 2009 - Stefan Kelm posts an article which happens to mention Craig Wright and David Kleiman in relation to a book they co-wrote > 20 Jan 2009 - David responds"
- https://twitter.com/jimmy007forsure/status/1141305547158724608

"Part 2. What are the odds? > David Kleiman was not a regular poster on the list. > Craig Wright is mentioned in the article > David alerts Craig and lets him know there is an article on the list that mentions their names. > Craig has a look. He notices Bitcoin!"
- https://twitter.com/jimmy007forsure/status/1141305556906364928

Part 3. Craig meets Bitcoin for the first time? > Only 12 days separate Bitcoin v0.1, DK and CSW being mentioned in a random post. > Bit uncanny, right? > Is this first time CSW & DK are introduced to Bitcoin?
- https://twitter.com/jimmy007forsure/status/1141305574476304386

"Part 4. Dave's activity on the Cryptography mailing list This is all I could find, just 6 posts IMO: Dave wasn't on the list that day because of the release of Bitcoin v0.1 He was there because a colleague alerted him to the post by Stefan and he in turn alerted Craig."
- https://twitter.com/jimmy007forsure/status/1141312642369241088

- https://twitter.com/zndtoshi/status/1141793842284433410   Cheesy   Grin

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...

Plot thickens !?! ...

"Cryptoloc - a document and data storage system based on cryptographic proof - Craig Wright was involved, he is on the patent Securit-e-doc - a document and data storage system based on cryptographic proof - Dave Kleiman was involved Why is Craig Wright not taking about this?"
- https://twitter.com/jimmy007forsure/status/1145109694198898689

"I don't think Craig had much to do with the design of Cryptoloc, and I suspect it's based upon Securit-e-doc. I suspect DK helped Craig design it and Craig may even still owe DK for services rendered"
- https://twitter.com/jimmy007forsure/status/1145118194195034112

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July 01, 2019, 09:35:57 AM
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Read also the 'other' side

https://coingeek.com/dr-craig-s-wright-appears-in-us-federal-court-testifies-he-is-satoshi-nakamoto/

I've never seen that much biased hobby journalism and pre-judjng before.

But there is a plot - sure

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July 01, 2019, 09:38:19 AM
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Read also the 'other' side

I'd be willing to read anywhere, literally anywhere, that is not that site. Even Craigy's teenage diaries would be less of a fever dream. That site is sub worthless.
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July 01, 2019, 12:31:20 PM
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Read also the 'other' side

https://coingeek.com/dr-craig-s-wright-appears-in-us-federal-court-testifies-he-is-satoshi-nakamoto/

I've never seen that much biased hobby journalism and pre-judjng before.

But there is a plot - sure

I think you will find that we have already covered the inconsistencies within that article in this very thread ...

see:
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5159516.msg51651952#msg51651952
and:
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5159516.msg51662035#msg51662035

...

Which is seemingly about as legitimate as this ... - SWIM
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5124203.msg51669976#msg51669976

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Read also the 'other' side

https://coingeek.com/dr-craig-s-wright-appears-in-us-federal-court-testifies-he-is-satoshi-nakamoto/

I've never seen that much biased hobby journalism and pre-judjng before.

But there is a plot - sure

I think you will find that we have already covered the inconsistencies within that article in this very thread ...

see:
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5159516.msg51651952#msg51651952
and:
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5159516.msg51662035#msg51662035

...

Which is seemingly about as legitimate as this ... - SWIM
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5124203.msg51669976#msg51669976

I find it way easier to make no own Research, but rather follow this legend

https://twitter.com/Excellion/status/1144693989230051328

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I find it way easier to make no own Research, but rather follow this legend

https://twitter.com/Excellion/status/1144693989230051328

/s
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Are you insinuating or requesting me to produce a list of Public Addresses for the Transaction ID's I posted to verify myself and my account ?

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5159516.msg51651952#msg51651952

Verifying my (old) zero balance wallet address for blockchain research etc.,
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4630066

Tweet you linked ...
"Reinhart: Why can’t you produce the list of Bitcoin addresses? Faketoshi: Why can’t YOU produce the list of addresses? Call me when Faketoshi tells Reinhart he has more money than the USA."
- https://twitter.com/Excellion/status/1144693989230051328

...

Unlike, '#Faketoshi', I can of course sign and verify any message required (by law or of my own volition) from my 'old' wallet.

Moreover, the TX ID's can be used to located the minded blocks addresses i.e. the Public Addresses (the Public Keys) on the actual Bitcoin blockchain (as well as the forked 'copies' of the original BTC chain i.e. BCH and/or BSV), because this was mined (and spent) long before the forks.

Now go here ...
How to be a "Faketoshi", better than any other "Faketoshi" !?!
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5148607.0

...

"Looking at the Tulip Trust declaration, I count 6 trustees plus maybe 2 or 3 PGP IDs. How can #Faketoshi make an 8/15 multisig with only 8 or 9 keys? 😅"
- https://twitter.com/Excellion/status/1144805140349612032

...

Tip Toe Thru The Tulips 1929
- https://youtu.be/0-MPTrWJ1uM

...

Thread:

"Craig Wright, the self-professed inventor of bitcoin, is testifying today in a West Palm Beach federal courtroom about why he hasn't been able to produce the public addresses of the bitcoin he's mined over the years."
- https://twitter.com/CarolinaBolado/status/1144649963311456256

"So the judge took over questioning here. Wright explained that he gave some keys to Dave Kleiman and directed him to give them to bonded couriers. Some of the keys won't be made available until 2020."
- https://twitter.com/CarolinaBolado/status/1144692953853698048

Delivery address ?!?

Cheesy

...

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Whilst we await said future bonded courier delivery by Sarah Connor IBC [citation needed], lets ask CSW to recreate the Genesis Block, you know just for the expedited fun of it - SWIM

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5159516.msg51661467#msg51661467

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*More Satire* ...

"Have you ever been pulled over while walking? #watchlist"
- https://twitter.com/KatieAnanina/status/1144567348520787969

"14/ Side note: I really felt bad for the stenographer, when they were going through tech staff. It was hilarious when he asked how to spell @GitHub"
- https://twitter.com/KatieAnanina/status/1144831168367550464

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- https://youtu.be/JLYOOezs3DA

Cheesy

"19/ Around 4 pm, apparently one of Craig’s representatives read my tweets and reported to the judge. After another break I was invited back to the court room for a, “talk.” #russianspy"
- https://twitter.com/KatieAnanina/status/1144831173425881088

Regina Spektor - "Us"
- https://youtu.be/fczPlmz-Vug

...

"All the exhibits will be public in a couple of days!"
- https://twitter.com/KatieAnanina/status/1145189933881155585

"CSW's lawyer facepalmed when Craig said "F word" during the cross-examination. It was quite hillarious. #CryptoTwitter"
- https://twitter.com/KatieAnanina/status/1145484901543796738

...

**Even More ... 100% Satire** - SWIM

(HQ) Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels- Rory Breaker (Nick the Greek)
- https://youtu.be/TRYE5gPoI8A *NSFW* *Meme*

**Threats or libel not intended or expressed herein.** - SWIM

...

"The pen is mightier than the milkshake"
- https://twitter.com/PeterMcCormack/status/1145406087853694977

...

"It's interesting that the people who believe that throwing a milkshake in someone's face shouldn't be considered assault are often the same people who believe that 'saying things' should be."
- https://twitter.com/rickygervais/status/1145302122205982721

"Whatever side you're on politically, 'left' or 'right', you don't need violent factions joining you or representing you. They bring your cause into disrepute. They don't even care about your cause, they're just in it for the violence. Denounce them."
- https://twitter.com/rickygervais/status/1145603935341821952

...

"No laws were broken in the taking of this photo. ..."
- https://twitter.com/PeterMcCormack/status/1145846920738496512

Peace!

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Thread moved from Bitcoin Discussion to Off-topic 'cover-up' boards by forum 'mods.' ... not even to the Legal section. LOLZ.

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Does anyone know when the hearing is set to resume?
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Does anyone know when the hearing is set to resume?

..."Wright concluded his testimony yesterday, but there is still a lot left to cover in the case. The evidentiary hearing on the discovery issue is expected to resume again, but not until August. This is only to decide a limited issue in the case (whether Wright can or cannot provide the list of public addresses requested by Kleiman). The full issues in the case will not be decided until other proceedings, and ultimately trial in March 2020."
- hxxps://coin geek.com/dr-craig-s-wright-appears-in-us-federal-court-testifies-he-is-satoshi-nakamoto/

Lawyers and the courts always seemingly like to drag these kind of proceedings on for as long as possible.

Helps to to keep the people down and maintain 'justice' for all, (oh and of course the Laywers can make 'good' money too) ... - SWIM

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"ROLFCopter - the dude reporting from the Miami courtroom is now a BSV shill."
- https://twitter.com/PeterMcCormack/status/1146473229084778497

"This is an obvious case how BcashSV pays people to shill. 22nd Century Crypto @thatcryptoguyyy was at Florida court posing with a @hodlonaut sign-There he met Craig's Toy Boy Jimmy N & now he is shilling BcashSV & giving away free BSV if u set up a wallet & organizing a meet-up🖕"
- https://twitter.com/CryptoScamHub/status/1146460895482134528

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qLI3VIHuKU

Gavin claims Craig signed in his presence block 1,  Yet his claims are not he cannot sign and has no access to the keys today.
Now if this is the case it would have been impossible for this to have happened back then if now today he claims that he has none of the keys and they are slip with shamirs secret sharing.

His claims of "Bonded" delivery's of keys are still to happen must be fake his claims now in court do not sit with the previous history of events he created.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamir%27s_Secret_Sharing


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qLI3VIHuKU

Gavin claims Craig signed in his presence block 1,  Yet his claims are not he cannot sign and has no access to the keys today.
Now if this is the case it would have been impossible for this to have happened back then if now today he claims that he has none of the keys and they are slip with shamirs secret sharing.

His claims of "Bonded" delivery's of keys are still to happen must be fake his claims now in court do not sit with the previous history of events he created.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamir%27s_Secret_Sharing



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For those who may be interested, I just got finished reading the ENTIRE transcript of Craig's court case and wrote up a summary of it in my BSV scam accusation thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5149062.msg51728883#msg51728883

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July 08, 2019, 07:32:36 PM
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Why this thread is in off topic section?? This is probability the most Bitcoin topic related thread for the past year and it ended up in the section where almost nobody (from the regular members) visit. Better move it to the Serious discussion of the Ivory tower if you don't what it to be in the bitcoin discussion.

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July 08, 2019, 07:54:53 PM
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Why this thread is in off topic section?? This is probability the most Bitcoin topic related thread for the past year and it ended up in the section where almost nobody (from the regular members) visit. Better move it to the Serious discussion of the Ivory tower if you don't what it to be in the bitcoin discussion.

Seems the mod's moved it I would agree it's one of those moments that could either tarnish bitcoin or push it back to the spot light (all be it for the wrong reasons)
I would say mod's should move this back to a more relevant section.



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July 09, 2019, 09:31:24 PM
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Why this thread is in off topic section?? This is probability the most Bitcoin topic related thread for the past year and it ended up in the section where almost nobody (from the regular members) visit. Better move it to the Serious discussion of the Ivory tower if you don't what it to be in the bitcoin discussion.

While I find all of this very entertaining I do not regard it as Bitcoin related AT ALL.

No doubt Craigy will sue me if he reads this.

It may relate a bit in terms of the mining and coins controlled by Calvin Thingy but that's no big deal in the great scheme of things either.

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I presume they're wondering who the fuck these people are and what the fuck they're all playing at. That goes for the Kleiman too. I wonder if there's been a bigger waste of time and effort in recent times than this crap.

I can feel Your frustration and I do agree with You.

But what You state counts for many here and in general, the public.

In science and legal matters, you need to provide proof and facts.

This is indisputable way to proof to be Satoshi Nakamoto, that is:
1) to sign with the well known PGP key 0x18C09E865EC948A1
2) to sign with the private key of the genesis or broadcast a message with the genesis.
3) to replicate the process of the generation of the hardcoded hash inside bitcoin v0.1 source
4) a notary depot (notarial minutes) of the white paper before publication on the internet.

It is clear that a lot of people do like to create mood.

I made a claim before the judge in a signed letter, I am Satoshi Nakamoto.

If there is someone else here who feel the need to do the same claim, well You all known the court address by now
to do the same statement before the judge.

I had no other choice to act on the false claims of Craig Wright. Because for sure, he would use the court case to shout
to the world, he is Satoshi Nakamoto, because nobody else did react.

But let's face it.

A lot of people do fill in the facts or reality with their own perceptions, beliefs, desires, dreams or assumptions.

The fact that so many people did belief Craig Wright is to me really proof, most humans are slave of politics, marketing techniques and propaganda.

Not to forget, a lot of people like to make statements, such as...this is false, this is nonsense.. or even troll ! Lower the other people, to defend, promote their own vision.

Well, that is ONE reason I did leave this board and I prefered to stay in the shadows.

For sure I still remember the first weeks, when I did defend my project on the internet.

And You know what ?! A cripled genius was the one who supported me...
Who had respect for me, at that time, I was a student. Who did listen in a scientific way to me.
Who did explain to me, the FORMAT of a white paper. And who did review my white paper.
Who did write my first prototype in C despite the fact he had a lot of pain.

THAT man, had the vision I did like. The open source mentality. To share. To help each other.
To respect each other. To talk with arguments. Not to lower Your brother or sister, because
some like to defend their ego. To show how smart, great they are. To dominate others.

No. That man, Harold Finney, he was a scientist and he was like a dad to me at that time.

And he was my firewall to others.
Ask Gavin. He only did speak a few times with me. I did speak (chtr, mail) with Harold.

Be sure, my mails to Harold were PGP signed. Why You think my pgp key was known by the PGP Foundation.
Look up the wayback archive of the pages and You will notice my pgp key.

You know.

If they make an idol of you, be sure, one day, they try to make you a fool, a joker.
From hero to zero.

However, Truth always prevails. You can not hide anything from the Records.

As written... He has the keys to the realm that lies beyond the reach of human perception; none knows them but He. And He knows what is on the land and in the sea; there is not a leaf which falls that He does not know about and there is not a grain in the darkness of the earth or anything green or dry which has not been recorded in a Clear Book.


Really, most of You do not have an idea who I am. How it really did happen. How I do live.

I know, some do know I am the real man. When I defended myself, some of them used my own words. Did try to twist my vision. Did try to promote their own
vision, goals in this project. To promote their own agenda as well, or worse, their own favorite altcoin.

And all this, done, with belief. Just belief, but no hard provided proof.

Well, one thing is for sure. I had the balls to write to the judge and make my claim.

So this means that one (or more) of those staments are valid :

1) I am a fool, a lunatic, a wanna-bee who takes a huge risk
2) I am sure Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto
3) I know him (Satoshi Nakamoto) personally
4) I am sure Satoshi Nakamoto is dead.
5) I am Satoshi Nakamoto.

I hope the story of Craig Wright learns humankind, not to belief pretty words, people in nice suits.
That humankind stops to idolize people. To listen to people who present themselves as leaders of
others. But in fact, most people forget, they are all unique and special and able to do great things.

Stop to look to leaders and idols. Stop to lower people. You all forget, the first weeks
I did present the blockchain/bitcoin idea, most did mock with me, from the beginning. And I am sure,
when I digitally sign, some will persist in that attitude because they are jealous or they have a low selfesteem.
For ego.


Do have respect for others as anybody is special, unique and has the way to change this world
to a better place.

All the Best,


Satoshin

 











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