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July 08, 2019, 05:58:20 PM
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Ingore everything until august 9th date. see link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5163106.new#new

Okay I was lazy  decided to let some one build one for me.


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CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8GHz [4.6GHz Turbo] 12 Cores/ 24 Threads 70MB Cache 105W Processor [+206]

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I am very interested in the ryzen 9 3900x cpu


https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-9-3900x/p/N82E16819113103?


and the asrock taichi mobo x570

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157883?

they list for 500 + 300 = 800

the ssd is 95
https://www.newegg.com/intel-660p-series-1tb/p/N82E16820167462?


the ram is about 125 for 2 x 8gb















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July 08, 2019, 06:05:20 PM
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You made a good choice, 3xxx uses less power and has greater ipc than intel 14++ coffee lake. Although Intel still better in 60% of games, in productivity ryzen 3xxx wins hand down. I would have saved a lot of money if I were you, a $60 b450 motherboard can run a 12 cores no problem given 105 tdp and 142 power maximum consumption.

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I always tell people... If you want to do one thing at a time only, buy intel. If you want many things open at once, like web browser, download manager, a game you alt-tab a lot, media player running, go AMD. My Pc's are all AMD's and my laptops are all Intel.

Extremely happy with my AMD's, the intels not so much.
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You made a good choice, 3xxx uses less power and has greater ipc than intel 14++ coffee lake. Although Intel still better in 60% of games, in productivity ryzen 3xxx wins hand down. I would have saved a lot of money if I were you, a $60 b450 motherboard can run a 12 cores no problem given 105 tdp and 142 power maximum consumption.

Yeah but I have a few Taichi boards and I like them.

I could have saved 250 by going low end mobo and 2 tb hdd

 Then add an Ssd I have laying around.

But this setup is pretty much state of the art.

I will pull the amd Rx 580 and add a Rtx 2080 ti I have and be done with it

A true beast. More for bragging rights then anything else.

I simply could not match the price I paid for It if I went diy. So I let them make it.

I have six months to pay 💰 for it interest free.

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I bought an alienware aurora r4 system that was broken the year it came out, gutted it and put in a bulldozer black fx-8150 8-core. I STILL use it daily. Of course everything else has been upgraded since then but the AMD still delivers more power than I need ever so far. Of course I don't video edit, I assume if I did I would have wanted an upgrade by now but couldn't be happier with my purchase. I seriously can't say I have noticed a slowdown whatsoever over the years.
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processors are undoubtedly good, but I would still buy video cards for mining. you can for this amount to consider the model rx570 or rx580.

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July 08, 2019, 10:15:09 PM
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Yeah but I have a few Taichi boards and I like them.

I could have saved 250 by going low end mobo and 2 tb hdd

 Then add an Ssd I have laying around.

But this setup is pretty much state of the art.

I will pull the amd Rx 580 and add a Rtx 2080 ti I have and be done with it

A true beast. More for bragging rights then anything else.

I simply could not match the price I paid for It if I went diy. So I let them make it.

I have six months to pay 💰 for it interest free.

To me is more of a state of more money than sense art hehe, rtx 2080 ti is old hardware already, I would get that 5700 xt, power wise x performance it will not be challenged for at least a year or so.

processors are undoubtedly good, but I would still buy video cards for mining. you can for this amount to consider the model rx570 or rx580.


Monero might go full cpu only and that means a 3950x will fly on that, can't beat $750, 16 cores 32 threads. Also as he said bragging rights, this means personal state on his head, so that means more money than sense.

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Yeah but I have a few Taichi boards and I like them.

I could have saved 250 by going low end mobo and 2 tb hdd

 Then add an Ssd I have laying around.

But this setup is pretty much state of the art.

I will pull the amd Rx 580 and add a Rtx 2080 ti I have and be done with it

A true beast. More for bragging rights then anything else.

I simply could not match the price I paid for It if I went diy. So I let them make it.

I have six months to pay 💰 for it interest free.

To me is more of a state of more money than sense art hehe, rtx 2080 ti is old hardware already, I would get that 5700 xt, power wise x performance it will not be challenged for at least a year or so.

processors are undoubtedly good, but I would still buy video cards for mining. you can for this amount to consider the model rx570 or rx580.


Monero might go full cpu only and that means a 3950x will fly on that, can't beat $750, 16 cores 32 threads. Also as he said bragging rights, this means personal state on his head, so that means more money than sense.
I own the gpu card already. cost = zero

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I'm using 2700X (https://mylifegadgets.com/amdryzen2700x), so i guess 3900X will fly, good choice  Grin
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12 cores and up need watercooling to work properly and watercooling cost a lot of money to build and maintain cause you have to keep watching it regularly. I had watercooling setup for years, dual pumps, only those pumps used to consume 44 watts, 22 watts each and each of those pumps cost $150 usd, high end pumps. A good watercooling setup will cost around $800, finest materials, cpu only. Reason why a 3700x and a stock cooler might be the best choice here.

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12 cores and up need watercooling to work properly and watercooling cost a lot of money to build and maintain cause you have to keep watching it regularly. I had watercooling setup for years, dual pumps, only those pumps used to consume 44 watts, 22 watts each and each of those pumps cost $150 usd, high end pumps. A good watercooling setup will cost around $800, finest materials, cpu only. Reason why a 3700x and a stock cooler might be the best choice here.

I have more then a few coolers that will work.

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12 cores and up need watercooling to work properly and watercooling cost a lot of money to build and maintain cause you have to keep watching it regularly. I had watercooling setup for years, dual pumps, only those pumps used to consume 44 watts, 22 watts each and each of those pumps cost $150 usd, high end pumps. A good watercooling setup will cost around $800, finest materials, cpu only. Reason why a 3700x and a stock cooler might be the best choice here.

I have more then a few coolers that will work.

Any idea when your tests with the 3900x will start?

I'm trying to decide whether to get the 3700x and leave at default with smt on or get the 3900x and turn the smt to off. A theory I have is, if I disable smt on the 3900x I will end up with only true 12 cores and by doing that my idea is that it will use less power than the 3700x 8 cores and 16 threads. I was looking for reviews about it and i could not find it, bit disappointed no reviewers have done that.

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Good luck with the system Phil.  I'd like to see if PCIe 4.0 does anything for the system whether it be mining or day to day use.  I know they have some crazy high speed NVMe drives that are supposed to take advantage of PCIe 4.0.  Looking forward to your review.

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God Damn 12 cores, we are going to need some hashrates Smiley
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Around July 20th.

I am very curious since it should do better then my 1920x thread ripper

This will be the go to pc for me.

I am a Mac guy.

But apple has become too fucking stupid to buy anymore.



So win 10 for me

And some Linux.

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Yeah but I have a few Taichi boards and I like them.

I could have saved 250 by going low end mobo and 2 tb hdd

 Then add an Ssd I have laying around.

But this setup is pretty much state of the art.

I will pull the amd Rx 580 and add a Rtx 2080 ti I have and be done with it

A true beast. More for bragging rights then anything else.

I simply could not match the price I paid for It if I went diy. So I let them make it.

I have six months to pay 💰 for it interest free.

To me is more of a state of more money than sense art hehe, rtx 2080 ti is old hardware already, I would get that 5700 xt, power wise x performance it will not be challenged for at least a year or so.

processors are undoubtedly good, but I would still buy video cards for mining. you can for this amount to consider the model rx570 or rx580.


Monero might go full cpu only and that means a 3950x will fly on that, can't beat $750, 16 cores 32 threads. Also as he said bragging rights, this means personal state on his head, so that means more money than sense.

As i understand it the 3900x already maxes out the theoretical hashrate,  Ryzen 9 3900x, memory at 3200 MHz, CL 16: 11800 h/s  (6000h per channel)

New threadrippers will be a diffrent story with quad channel.
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Yeah but I have a few Taichi boards and I like them.

I could have saved 250 by going low end mobo and 2 tb hdd

 Then add an Ssd I have laying around.

But this setup is pretty much state of the art.

I will pull the amd Rx 580 and add a Rtx 2080 ti I have and be done with it

A true beast. More for bragging rights then anything else.

I simply could not match the price I paid for It if I went diy. So I let them make it.

I have six months to pay 💰 for it interest free.

To me is more of a state of more money than sense art hehe, rtx 2080 ti is old hardware already, I would get that 5700 xt, power wise x performance it will not be challenged for at least a year or so.

processors are undoubtedly good, but I would still buy video cards for mining. you can for this amount to consider the model rx570 or rx580.


Monero might go full cpu only and that means a 3950x will fly on that, can't beat $750, 16 cores 32 threads. Also as he said bragging rights, this means personal state on his head, so that means more money than sense.

As i understand it the 3900x already maxes out the theoretical hashrate,  Ryzen 9 3900x, memory at 3200 MHz, CL 16: 11800 h/s  (6000h per channel)

New threadrippers will be a diffrent story with quad channel.

Reason why 12/24 threads and over is pointless on dual channel. For the 3900x to work best and it was proven in reviews, you need to disable smt, threads are starving in games, in productivity 24 threads still good but it depends which programs. I think up to 16 cores, smt off is good with dual channel at moment.

Funny, amd will release a 16 cores 32 threads behemoth in September dual channel, i guess they lost their mind.

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I'd be interested in AVX2 performance. First gen is actually slower than AVX.
THW mentioned improved AVX performance without clarification.
I'd rather see improved AVX2 vs AVX.

Let's see how Intel responds with Cascade Lake X.


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July 10, 2019, 03:47:05 PM
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Hey Philip, are you going to do any tests on mining, like Monero for example?
I'm curious to see the hashrate of this cpu and the 3700

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July 10, 2019, 09:05:30 PM
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https://github.com/tevador/RandomX

'16 KiB of L1 cache, 256 KiB of L2 cache and 2 MiB of L3 cache per mining thread'
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