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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129790 times)
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April 29, 2022, 05:27:56 PM
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As we have already seen, it is quite possible to beat City - Liverpool just recently did it in the FA Cup and in a dominant style. I could understand such quotes against some average club that is close to the top clubs but is not. But this is Real - the champion of Spain and the regular winner of the Champions League. Perhaps I will take advantage of the bookmakers' mistake and bet on Real  Smiley
Liverpool and Real Madrid can beat Manchester City and vice versa and I don't think it's impossible. Liverpool have beaten Manchester City this season in different competitions but I don't think it can guarantee Liverpool can do it again in the Champions League if they meet in the final.

If Manchester City can make mistakes then the same can happen to Liverpool and Real Madrid so we can't really believe in the team to win everything especially because the Champions League is a different competition to any competition. So I just think at the moment all the teams have a chance to win the match or the title.

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April 29, 2022, 05:36:59 PM
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As we have already seen, it is quite possible to beat City - Liverpool just recently did it in the FA Cup and in a dominant style. I could understand such quotes against some average club that is close to the top clubs but is not. But this is Real - the champion of Spain and the regular winner of the Champions League. Perhaps I will take advantage of the bookmakers' mistake and bet on Real  Smiley
Liverpool and Real Madrid can beat Manchester City and vice versa and I don't think it's impossible. Liverpool have beaten Manchester City this season in different competitions but I don't think it can guarantee Liverpool can do it again in the Champions League if they meet in the final.

If Manchester City can make mistakes then the same can happen to Liverpool and Real Madrid so we can't really believe in the team to win everything especially because the Champions League is a different competition to any competition. So I just think at the moment all the teams have a chance to win the match or the title.

I understand your reasoning, but they are very much in conflict with the quotes that the bookmakers give for these three teams. The quotes for Liverpool are fair at this stage, by the way, they are fair even for the final result:

Liverpool 1.86

Manchester City FC 2.15

Real Madrid 10.50

But the quotes for Real and City are absolutely distorted. City are judged as if they are already in the final.

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April 29, 2022, 05:38:54 PM
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I don't think that Villarreal would have much chance to revert things from now on. Liverpool already have a two-goal advantage against them. I don't believe that Villarreal are that much good to end 90 minutes as ahead by two goals in the second leg. Liverpool are a way different opponent than Bayern Munich. Even Villarreal get ahead by one goal, Liverpool wouldn't be too late to equalize the score. They know how to play against this kind of opponents very well. I don't expect any mistake by Liverpool because of that.
And the advantage of these 2 goals for Liverpool is still lacking. They will add the 2nd leg later as a form of Liverpool's seriousness to reach the final with a satisfactory result. Villareal now has a heavy burden to equalize the position. Despite playing at home, the concerns of Villareal supporters are still evident. So far Villareal's struggle has been quite good, if in the end they don't qualify for the final but their performance will increase in the next season.

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April 29, 2022, 05:40:51 PM
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I don't think that Villarreal would have much chance to revert things from now on. Liverpool already have a two-goal advantage against them. I don't believe that Villarreal are that much good to end 90 minutes as ahead by two goals in the second leg. Liverpool are a way different opponent than Bayern Munich. Even Villarreal get ahead by one goal, Liverpool wouldn't be too late to equalize the score. They know how to play against this kind of opponents very well. I don't expect any mistake by Liverpool because of that.

Villareal can't draw the match , even to think of winning  Liverpool.  The way rhe first leg was that is how the second leg will be like. Liverpool always have new strategies and tactics to face any team no matter how difficult the team may be. The first game Villareal played against Liverpool in the first half  Villareal played more defensive game trying stop Liverpool,  with all Villareal efforts in the game Liverpool still won the game.

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April 29, 2022, 05:41:35 PM
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As we have already seen, it is quite possible to beat City - Liverpool just recently did it in the FA Cup and in a dominant style. I could understand such quotes against some average club that is close to the top clubs but is not. But this is Real - the champion of Spain and the regular winner of the Champions League. Perhaps I will take advantage of the bookmakers' mistake and bet on Real  Smiley
Liverpool and Real Madrid can beat Manchester City and vice versa and I don't think it's impossible. Liverpool have beaten Manchester City this season in different competitions but I don't think it can guarantee Liverpool can do it again in the Champions League if they meet in the final.

If Manchester City can make mistakes then the same can happen to Liverpool and Real Madrid so we can't really believe in the team to win everything especially because the Champions League is a different competition to any competition. So I just think at the moment all the teams have a chance to win the match or the title.
Each team is phenomenal in their own right, both are able to show off their abilities and two English giants, Liverpool and Manchester City, both demonstrated a level of ability to showcase. There can be only one winner between Manchester City and Real Madrid. But I prefer to watch Liverpool versus Real Madrid.
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April 29, 2022, 05:47:45 PM
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Yep, as you said sometimes strategy is important and unai know what they're doing because instead of them having a hard time with an open game they're better off playing that way even though it doesn't really affect them that much.
At the moment 2-0 on aggregate is big enough for them and I doubt if they can turn things around and there is nothing wrong in the second leg they try to adopt a different strategy than defending boredom
This may be true, but the problem is simply to counter them is to leave their defense blank and allow Liverpool to exploit their area of defense and this would be much more dangerous. Instead of reducing Liverpool's lag, Liverpool actually added to the aggregate coffers there.
It is indeed quite difficult now for Villarreal and the chances are close to 0 percent to qualify for the next round
This is precisely the problem.
They have had enough now and when they defend can they really win? the odds are getting more and more difficult for them because creating 2 goals on the counter-attack when the opponent is Liverpool is something that will not happen in my opinion.
And this is where they have to attack, I think it's better to display an attractive attack even if they lose than continue to be beaten all-out but still lose

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I understand your reasoning, but they are very much in conflict with the quotes that the bookmakers give for these three teams. The quotes for Liverpool are fair at this stage, by the way, they are fair even for the final result:

Liverpool 1.86

Manchester City FC 2.15

Real Madrid 10.50

But the quotes for Real and City are absolutely distorted. City are judged as if they are already in the final.
I know what you mean but there is nothing wrong with those odds after I watched the first leg, it seems fair for Liverpool and Manchester City but very unfair to underestimate Real Madrid like that. But I don't know what site offers high odds for Real Madrid because the bookie I visited only offered 3.25.

Liverpool 1.72

Manchester City 2.09

Real Madrid 3.25

So I'm sure the bookmakers will make Manchester City and Liverpool the favorites for the final but we shouldn't get hung up on just these numbers while all the teams might still qualify with the odds that might be in store for them.

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April 29, 2022, 05:52:34 PM
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Liverpool are still the favourite team for the Champions League title of course. But we don't see the biggest favourites becoming the champion in this tournament every time. Chelsea's championship in last season can be considered as a good example. I see Liverpool in the finale already as they won the first leg by a comfortable score like 2-0. I just wonder which team are going to be their competitor. Is it going to be Manchester City or Real Madrid? For now, Manchester City have a little more advantage as they won the first leg 4-3.

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Each team is phenomenal in their own right, both are able to show off their abilities and two English giants, Liverpool and Manchester City, both demonstrated a level of ability to showcase. There can be only one winner between Manchester City and Real Madrid. But I prefer to watch Liverpool versus Real Madrid.
I also prefer to see Liverpool versus Real Madrid in the final match, and in your opinion, between Liverpool and Real Madrid who will be superior if the two meet in the final?
I see the two clubs as very evenly matched in terms of strength this season so it is still very difficult for me to predict.

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April 29, 2022, 06:11:52 PM
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Each team is phenomenal in their own right, both are able to show off their abilities and two English giants, Liverpool and Manchester City, both demonstrated a level of ability to showcase. There can be only one winner between Manchester City and Real Madrid. But I prefer to watch Liverpool versus Real Madrid.
I also prefer to see Liverpool versus Real Madrid in the final match, and in your opinion, between Liverpool and Real Madrid who will be superior if the two meet in the final?
I see the two clubs as very evenly matched in terms of strength this season so it is still very difficult for me to predict.
If that's the scheme that happens then I'll take Liverpool as the contestant to win this time, but I predict that this time it will be England vs England.  because we know Madrid lost to Manchester City it has become a big capital for Manchester City.
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April 29, 2022, 06:24:25 PM
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If that's the scheme that happens then I'll take Liverpool as the contestant to win this time, but I predict that this time it will be England vs England.  because we know Madrid lost to Manchester City it has become a big capital for Manchester City.
Have you forgotten what Madrid did in Leg 2 in the previous round? Even though City are already favored enough but indeed they are still not safe now, playing at the Barnabeu with the full support of Madridistas will indirectly affect City's mentality in my opinion. especially now they only have 1 goal on aggregate which makes this still not too safe for City

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This week saw 2 nice matches in the Champions League. There was quite a bit of action in both games. Villareal didn't want to play football, but the other game was a real spectacle. Of course there is no doubt that Liverpool will go to the final, but in Real Madrid's game against Man City everything is still open. It seems to me that Man City are favorites, but we have seen what happened in the match between Real Madrid and Psg

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What do you expect Manchester City is already topping the points in the premiere league and at the same time are very form when is comes to players motivation and skills which give them an edge in this match.

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April 29, 2022, 06:51:49 PM
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This week saw 2 nice matches in the Champions League. There was quite a bit of action in both games. Villareal didn't want to play football, but the other game was a real spectacle. Of course there is no doubt that Liverpool will go to the final, but in Real Madrid's game against Man City everything is still open. It seems to me that Man City are favorites, but we have seen what happened in the match between Real Madrid and Psg
The four clubs that are the most interesting for us to watch are Real Madrid against Manchester City, because this match will be very hot and the tension will be very hard for both clubs. Tactically, both Manchester City and Real Madrid are not so much different from the first leg, but Real Madrid really benefited from playing at home, even though they lost the first leg, but if you look at the chances of Real Madrid not being so difficult to win the match, because on aggregate the goal is in their favour, another match between Liverpool and Villarreal, surely Liverpool will most likely win the match

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April 29, 2022, 06:53:54 PM
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What do you expect Manchester City is already topping the points in the premiere league and at the same time are very form when is comes to players motivation and skills which give them an edge in this match.

Real Madrid is also ranked 1st in the league. Cheesy but if we look at the head to head that exists between Manchester City vs Real Madrid, it looks like City is one level ahead of Real Madrid.
But keep in mind that in this match Manchester City will play as a guest team who will face the hosts with the support of their supporters.
Real Madrid has the upper hand in this match and my prediction for the final score between Real Madrid vs Manchester City is 3-2
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April 29, 2022, 06:54:13 PM
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Villareal can't draw the match , even to think of winning  Liverpool.  The way rhe first leg was that is how the second leg will be like. Liverpool always have new strategies and tactics to face any team no matter how difficult the team may be. The first game Villareal played against Liverpool in the first half  Villareal played more defensive game trying stop Liverpool,  with all Villareal efforts in the game Liverpool still won the game.
I'm glad to see you're quite optimistic about Liverpool, but you should also know that Liverpool and Villareal are teams that have to have chances to lose, draw and win in match regardless of the strategy the coach uses.

Indeed Liverpool have managed to prove that Villareal's defense can still be penetrated with good attack and pressure throughout the match, but Villareal must be wary of especially on the counter-attack in the second leg. A draw is possible, IMO why not?
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April 29, 2022, 07:00:53 PM
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I'm glad to see you're quite optimistic about Liverpool, but you should also know that Liverpool and Villareal are teams that have to have chances to lose, draw and win in match regardless of the strategy the coach uses.

Indeed Liverpool have managed to prove that Villareal's defense can still be penetrated with good attack and pressure throughout the match, but Villareal must be wary of especially on the counter-attack in the second leg. A draw is possible, IMO why not?
I agree that Liverpool can win or lose but 2 goals in advantage sounds to be a good one and it is enough for Liverpool to protect it in the second leg and go to final match. They proved that Villareal defense can be broken and in the second leg, Villareal will have to play attacking to score 2 goals in minimum that will open more opportunities for Liverpool to exploit open space with their sleedy players like Salah, Mane, Diaz and Jota.

The four clubs that are the most interesting for us to watch are Real Madrid against Manchester City, because this match will be very hot and the tension will be very hard for both clubs. Tactically, both Manchester City and Real Madrid are not so much different from the first leg, but Real Madrid really benefited from playing at home, even though they lost the first leg, but if you look at the chances of Real Madrid not being so difficult to win the match, because on aggregate the goal is in their favour, another match between Liverpool and Villarreal, surely Liverpool will most likely win the match
They made a very interesting and goal productive match in Etihad stadium. 7 goals and one in difference is what they will start in Bernabeu in aggregated result. It will give Real Madrid more confidence that they can beat Manchester City and have  another final then title in Champions League for the club.

They have Benzema who is ready to take and turn any minor opportunity into goal. It is unfair for Benzema if he won't win Ballon d'Or after his amazing show in this season. A final and a title will definitely help Benzema to get his fourth Champions League and first Ballon d'Or

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April 29, 2022, 07:04:30 PM
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I think that the Liverpool - Villarreal draw has already finished by Liverpool's decent 2-0 win in Anfield. I don't believe Villarreal are strong enough to turn things around from this point. They will need to end normal time of the match by a two-goal difference to carry the match to the extra time at least. And I don't see Liverpool letting them do so in Spain as well. Villarreal will need to take big risks to have a chance to do that but this can help Liverpool get another win at the same time. Liverpool are one of the best teams that like to punish weaknesses of their opponents.
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April 29, 2022, 07:17:28 PM
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What do you expect Manchester City is already topping the points in the premiere league and at the same time are very form when is comes to players motivation and skills which give them an edge in this match.

There is more that you think it has nothing to do with sitting at the top of the league.
Real Madrid are also occupants of the la Liga table, they both have to put a good defending strategy if they should qualify.
As I don't expect too much goal as it resulted in the first leg at the Etihad stadium.
Two great attacking sides but he who defended best will be the winner this time around.
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Indeed Liverpool have managed to prove that Villareal's defense can still be penetrated with good attack and pressure throughout the match, but Villareal must be wary of especially on the counter-attack in the second leg. A draw is possible, IMO why not?

I won't ignore the draw in this match Villarreal won't let the final ticket go away in any way they will try their best especially in front of their own supporters
But draw is not a safe choice to bet on I see more potential to score goals for both teams as predicted Liverpool can score and Villarreal are doing the same
On the other hand I also see the potential for more than 3 goals because this is the last fight before going to the final.

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