⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[Oshosondy]

Real Madrid has not always been like this. There were times when Real Madrid was not a very rich club and neither a very strong one. But they have reached there with some good decisions and some very good performance.

Oh no? When?

I don't know if you mean 1902, which is when it was founded, but at that time no club was rich. Football didn't move as much money as it does today.

If we take into account that it is the biggest club in the capital of Spain, where all the political and financial power is concentrated, and that there was a dictator in Spain between 1939 and 1975 whose favourite club was Real Madrid, either you support what you say with some data or I will believe that you have said the first nonsense that has crossed your mind about it.

He is not correct, Real Madrid was established in 1902 with the name Madrid Football Club. In 1929, Real Madrid was one of the members of La Liga and one of the clubs that started the league. Among two other clubs in La Liga, Real Madrid has never relegated before in La Liga. I am wondering how a club that has not been relegated before in La Liga with 14 won Champions League gotten broke in the past. But maybe he means that a time when Real Madrid was not rich but when also other clubs in Europe were also not rich, maybe that is what he is talking about. Real Madrid has always been one of the most successful clubs in La Liga.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

I do not think he is correct, Real Madrid was established in 1902 with the name Madrid Football Club, in 1929, Real Madrid is one of the members of La Liga and one of the clubs that started the league. Among many other clubs in La Liga, Real Madrid has never relegated before. I am wondering how a club that has not been relegated before in La Liga with 14 won Champions League gotten broke in the past. But maybe he means that a time when Real Madrid was not rich, but when also other clubs in Europe were also not rich, if that is what he is talking about. Real Madrid has always been the most successful club in La Liga.

That's why I say, there was a time when Real Madrid wasn't rich but because no club was rich, because football didn't move the money it does now. But I don't think that's what he meant because he says it wasn't a strong one either. Well, in 121 years of history, it is normal that it has had better and worse times but it is the club with the most titles in Spain and in the world, so it can't have nad long periods of weakness.

[cryptofrka]

I read somewhere that Spanish clubs have played in 17 Champions League/Europa League finals against foreign opposition in the last 20 years, winning ALL of them.
It sounded so insane that I went to check and if I did not make a mistake checking - it turns out to be true.

Their last losses in European finals were in 2001, when Liverpool won against Alaves in Uefa Cup and Bayern won against Valencia in a CL final.

[Daniel91]

Real Madrid has not always been like this. There were times when Real Madrid was not a very rich club and neither a very strong one. But they have reached there with some good decisions and some very good performance.

Oh no? When?

I don't know if you mean 1902, which is when it was founded, but at that time no club was rich. Football didn't move as much money as it does today.

If we take into account that it is the biggest club in the capital of Spain, where all the political and financial power is concentrated, and that there was a dictator in Spain between 1939 and 1975 whose favourite club was Real Madrid, either you support what you say with some data or I will believe that you have said the first nonsense that has crossed your mind about it.

As far as I know from the history of football, the golden age for Real was between 1955 and 1960 when Real won five European titles in a row, with Puskas and other football stars of that time.
The support of politics and the state at that time was certainly welcome when there really wasn’t as much money and sponsors in football as there are today.
Barcelona started winning European titles much later, after the fall of fascism in Spain, for the last 30 years, which is certainly no coincidence.
Thanks to the titles from the fifties and history, Real has gained the status of a royal club and that has never changed.
Based on a great tradition and history, it is always easier to bring in great players.

[babo]

as I said, Real Madrid won
my assumptions were correct and although Liverpool were favorites on paper (much stronger) they were not mentally projected to win
He was tired
physically, mentally

while Real Madrid were well rested (thanks to the turnover) happy (Spanish league) and mentally ready to win

[Fesatmas]

Real Madrid has not always been like this. There were times when Real Madrid was not a very rich club and neither a very strong one. But they have reached there with some good decisions and some very good performance.

Oh no? When?

I don't know if you mean 1902, which is when it was founded, but at that time no club was rich. Football didn't move as much money as it does today.

If we take into account that it is the biggest club in the capital of Spain, where all the political and financial power is concentrated, and that there was a dictator in Spain between 1939 and 1975 whose favourite club was Real Madrid, either you support what you say with some data or I will believe that you have said the first nonsense that has crossed your mind about it.

Perhaps what is meant is that Real Madrid is not richer than Paris Saint Germain. Lol
If we talk about Real Madrid, of course we will see as one of the rich teams with a number of flashy achievements that they have recorded, in all the competitions they participate in this team is one of the most successful teams on the blue continent. This proves that they are a strong team which the opinion of the op argues against.

[izsara]

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In this case, there is indeed some controversy there, especially about the handball debate for Madrid and Benzema's Offside goal there and it is certain that both sides of the fans will not accept this lightly.
But apart from that now something like this was pointless. Madrid are now champions and that is a fact. regardless of the referee's leadership is fair or not everyone has their own judgment

this is really a hot issue from yesterday and there are still a lot of fans of both teams having a great debate on social media about this. btw, it's no longer important to bring this issue to the surface because Madrid have been confirmed as champions and Liverpool will have to try hard next season again.

Even today I checked social media and it's still buzzing about this and various speculations have emerged from various parties which have made this a fan debate that never ends.

On the other hand I agree with you, it's over now there's no point in arguing because the result is also immutable. They now don't have time for things like this and all they have to do is refocus on the season to come

[Razmirraz]

as I said, Real Madrid won
my assumptions were correct and although Liverpool were favorites on paper (much stronger) they were not mentally projected to win
He was tired
physically, mentally

while Real Madrid were well rested (thanks to the turnover) happy (Spanish league) and mentally ready to win

Liverpool has prepared the team 100% for the final match, statistics show Liverpool are able to control the match. One Real Madrid goal in the second half made Liverpool's struggle even more difficult, until the match ended there was no additional goal from Real Madrid and a reply goal from Liverpool. Liverpool failed again in the UCL final, Liverpool's revenge mission did not go perfectly, in fact Jurgen Klopp team had to lose to Real Madrid thanks to a goal from Vinicius Junior.

[tulusikhlas]

as I said, Real Madrid won
my assumptions were correct and although Liverpool were favorites on paper (much stronger) they were not mentally projected to win
He was tired
physically, mentally

while Real Madrid were well rested (thanks to the turnover) happy (Spanish league) and mentally ready to win

As Liverpool came out with 100% in good form, it was evident by the dominance of the game they showed. Even during the game Real Madrid are under pressure. But Real Madrid are disciplined in implementing the defensive strategy they run plus their goalkeeper is on fire. The rest of the goals from Real Madrid were created by the mistakes of Liverpool defenders who did not escort a Vinicius.

[Fakhrulenclix]

as I said, Real Madrid won
my assumptions were correct and although Liverpool were favorites on paper (much stronger) they were not mentally projected to win
He was tired
physically, mentally

while Real Madrid were well rested (thanks to the turnover) happy (Spanish league) and mentally ready to win

As Liverpool came out with 100% in good form, it was evident by the dominance of the game they showed. Even during the game Real Madrid are under pressure. But Real Madrid are disciplined in implementing the defensive strategy they run plus their goalkeeper is on fire. The rest of the goals from Real Madrid were created by the mistakes of Liverpool defenders who did not escort a Vinicius.

physically these two teams have no problems, both entered the game with 100% of their strength, and it's true that it was proven when Liverpool were able to control the game quite well but it's a pity that Real Madrid is a team that is difficult to beat so even though Liverpool continue to played attacking but Real Madrid kept their cool and managed to score their winning goal on the counter-attack.

but despite all that, Real Madrid really deserve to be champions, they have beaten 3 top EPL clubs to reach their 14th UCL trophy.

[fzkto]

I read somewhere that Spanish clubs have played in 17 Champions League/Europa League finals against foreign opposition in the last 20 years, winning ALL of them.
It sounded so insane that I went to check and if I did not make a mistake checking - it turns out to be true.

Their last losses in European finals were in 2001, when Liverpool won against Alaves in Uefa Cup and Bayern won against Valencia in a CL final.

I haven't looked at the statistics for wins against clubs not from Spain, but in the last 20 years Spanish clubs have won 10 times, of which Real Madrid have won 6 times. In total Real Madrid have played in 17 Champions League finals 14 of which they have won. That is a crazy statistic. Real Madrid is the most titled club in Europe and the leader of the Champions League.

[mamesso]

as I said, Real Madrid won
my assumptions were correct and although Liverpool were favorites on paper (much stronger) they were not mentally projected to win
He was tired
physically, mentally

while Real Madrid were well rested (thanks to the turnover) happy (Spanish league) and mentally ready to win

As Liverpool came out with 100% in good form, it was evident by the dominance of the game they showed. Even during the game Real Madrid are under pressure. But Real Madrid are disciplined in implementing the defensive strategy they run plus their goalkeeper is on fire. The rest of the goals from Real Madrid were created by the mistakes of Liverpool defenders who did not escort a Vinicius.

Small mistakes can kill everything, Liverpool's defense fails to stem the attacks of Real Madrid, Vinicius Junior can easily break into Liverpool's goal.
Liverpool had tried to give their best in the final, Real Madrid looked overwhelmed by the attacks launched by Liverpool players. A disciplined defense and supported by the good performances of Thibaut Courtois, all the efforts of the Liverpool players did not bear fruit. Ancelotti strategy was able to frustrate Jurgen Klopp's troops, until they failed to get the trophy that the Anfield public really wanted.

[Bobrox]

The final result or score is more important than statistics, Liverpool has all the statistics in the match took all the possessions, shot on goal, off target, corners, fouls etc however all these don't count with the final score, Real Madrid won the match, there are some matches which involves playing badly and win than to play excellently well and lose, Real Madrid defended well and converted their few goals scoring chances, unfortunately Liverpool all goals scoring chances was saved by Courtois who was very brilliant, oustanding and was capped as the man of the match.

That true not really important with how dominance with ball possession, shoot on goals until with how many time with attempt have by Liverpool but actually the final score is make Real Madrid become the champion. Only made with one shot on goals and success become one goals have give Champion league trophy for Real Madrid and I think Liverpool need how to play effective like  Real Madrid, when attacking success created one goal and I think just have three player effective only how to destroy with Liverpool defender. I don't see special with Van Dijk on champion league final.

[bangjoe]

as I said, Real Madrid won
my assumptions were correct and although Liverpool were favorites on paper (much stronger) they were not mentally projected to win
He was tired
physically, mentally

while Real Madrid were well rested (thanks to the turnover) happy (Spanish league) and mentally ready to win

As Liverpool came out with 100% in good form, it was evident by the dominance of the game they showed. Even during the game Real Madrid are under pressure. But Real Madrid are disciplined in implementing the defensive strategy they run plus their goalkeeper is on fire. The rest of the goals from Real Madrid were created by the mistakes of Liverpool defenders who did not escort a Vinicius.

Small mistakes can kill everything, Liverpool's defense fails to stem the attacks of Real Madrid, Vinicius Junior can easily break into Liverpool's goal.
Liverpool had tried to give their best in the final, Real Madrid looked overwhelmed by the attacks launched by Liverpool players. A disciplined defense and supported by the good performances of Thibaut Courtois, all the efforts of the Liverpool players did not bear fruit. Ancelotti strategy was able to frustrate Jurgen Klopp's troops, until they failed to get the trophy that the Anfield public really wanted.

Arnold, who was closest to Vinicius' position at that time, failed to anticipate Vinicius' movement without the ball. The result is one goal created from the scheme. It looks like Arnold is the most disappointed player when the game has ended, yes it becomes natural when players feel guilty for the goals scored against them. But here too Vinicius is clever in finding a position so that he easily scores the ball into the net.

[zaki12]

I read somewhere that Spanish clubs have played in 17 Champions League/Europa League finals against foreign opposition in the last 20 years, winning ALL of them.
It sounded so insane that I went to check and if I did not make a mistake checking - it turns out to be true.

Their last losses in European finals were in 2001, when Liverpool won against Alaves in Uefa Cup and Bayern won against Valencia in a CL final.

I haven't looked at the statistics for wins against clubs not from Spain, but in the last 20 years Spanish clubs have won 10 times, of which Real Madrid have won 6 times. In total Real Madrid have played in 17 Champions League finals 14 of which they have won. That is a crazy statistic. Real Madrid is the most titled club in Europe and the leader of the Champions League.

"If you want to win the Champions League then don't let Real Madrid be in the Final" -Diego Simione
Football is not just about playing and star players and also defending or attacking. But about mentality and history!
proven now Real madrid haven't lost in a final out of 8 occasions.

[Mauser]

as I said, Real Madrid won
my assumptions were correct and although Liverpool were favorites on paper (much stronger) they were not mentally projected to win
He was tired
physically, mentally

while Real Madrid were well rested (thanks to the turnover) happy (Spanish league) and mentally ready to win

I should have listened to you. No idea what happened in the final, to me it seemed like a sure win for Liverpool. Looks like I need to be mir critical towards my predictions. Buy even the bookies looked at Liverpool as the clear favourite. I think none of my close friends who are into sports betting, bet on Real Madrid. And the score of 1-0 was so uneventful, I really expected overtime and to see many goals. I waa so wrong that game. Overall Champions league this year together with Europa league were really bad for me. Lost most of my betting budget and have to start from scratch again. Atleast there is still some time left until the Worldcup this year.

[kro55]

I read somewhere that Spanish clubs have played in 17 Champions League/Europa League finals against foreign opposition in the last 20 years, winning ALL of them.
It sounded so insane that I went to check and if I did not make a mistake checking - it turns out to be true.
Their last losses in European finals were in 2001, when Liverpool won against Alaves in Uefa Cup and Bayern won against Valencia in a CL final.

I haven't looked at the statistics for wins against clubs not from Spain, but in the last 20 years Spanish clubs have won 10 times, of which Real Madrid have won 6 times. In total Real Madrid have played in 17 Champions League finals 14 of which they have won. That is a crazy statistic. Real Madrid is the most titled club in Europe and the leader of the Champions League.

"If you want to win the Champions League then don't let Real Madrid be in the Final" -Diego Simione
Football is not just about playing and star players and also defending or attacking. But about mentality and history!
proven now Real madrid haven't lost in a final out of 8 occasions.

I agree with this statement. The Liverpool team is stronger than Real Madrid. I still think this. They also played better than Real Madrid in the final. But the champion is Real Madrid. Because the Real Madrid team is more experienced and they are tactical. Coach Carlo Ancelotti is very experienced. He knew that it was impossible to win against Liverpool if they played attacking tactics. And so he decided to play defensively. Real Madrid had several good counter-attacks. And finally won the match 1-0.

[W Jr.]

Most Manchester United fans are so happy with the loss of Liverpool. Liverpool has quadruple dream's but ended up winning only two.
Chelsea had some block's from hazard winning the champions league, I think a bit higher than what Liverpool won from both the FA Cup and the Carabao Cup finals.
Liverpool did well this season, but couldn't outshine Real Madrid.

They missed the championships by very small margins in the Champions League and the Premier league. City became champions with a 1 point margin in the Premier League. Despite playing very well in the UCL final with Real Madrid, they lost.  In fact, we can say that they were unlucky. They deserved to be champions. They lost the last two finals without luck.  Anyway, they will continue to work to be better next year.

[Bamjos]

History repeated itself; Liverpool failed to savage the situation and they couldn't become the champion. One thing I realised to have made Madrid the champion again was the experience they've had, unlike Liverpool, they didn't create much chances but they put the little they had to use and it paid off. Liverpool suffered the same fate as Chelsea and Manchester City–creating plenty chances but failing to convert them. I went to the viewing center to support my England neighbor, hoping I could sing "you will never walk alone" at the end of the match, but I ended up singing "Hala Madrid" as Madrid deservedly took the great UCL Trophy home.

[skarais]

Liverpool has prepared the team 100% for the final match, statistics show Liverpool are able to control the match. One Real Madrid goal in the second half made Liverpool's struggle even more difficult, until the match ended there was no additional goal from Real Madrid and a reply goal from Liverpool. Liverpool failed again in the UCL final, Liverpool's revenge mission did not go perfectly, in fact Jurgen Klopp team had to lose to Real Madrid thanks to a goal from Vinicius Junior.

The final is a game that is actually difficult to predict and we certainly know how the final match goes. I think Real Madrid just took chances on the counter-attack because they played pretty defensively. Very different from some previous Real Madrid matches whether in the round of 16, quarter-finals or semi-finals. The match between Manchester City and Real Madrid in the semifinals was much more interesting than the final, much more entertaining with goals and good play from both teams.

In the final Real Madrid just waited and played very carefully, it can be seen from the statistics they made. They only created 2 shots on target, one of which became a goal. It might not be so bad to see them win the match but of course it's hard to believe that Liverpool managed to put Real Madrid under pressure until the end of the match.