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July 10, 2019, 09:14:37 AM
Last edit: July 12, 2019, 05:41:07 PM by Jhonmicky
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Hello everyone,,
For some reason I wanted to find the average interest rates of bitcoin. The average interest rates needed are for last 5 years.
I did try to look up for it by showbox.bio/ tutuapp.uno/ vidmate.vet/ myself and all I could get was an index of prices for couple of years and some graphs and charts.
Although I could retrieve the necessary price and manually calculate the average interest I would like if there was some tool or website for it.
Kinda lazy to manually do the calculation too  Tongue  Grin . Any recommendations on website/tools ?

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If four years will suffice, then there are a couple of recent posts from my local board that show you returns in a four year period:

These charts give you a bird’s eye view of the rolling returns after 4 years:

And this table depicts the information selecting one day per week from 2011-10-17 onwards:
Me ha gustado eso de "rolling 4 year return". Básicamente, a 4 años vista no se entra en números rojos nunca. Me he sacado los datos en texto (semanalmente, usando 4*52=208 semanas de diferencia, datos de bitstampUSD en bitcoincharts):

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2011-09-12     4.87 => 2015-09-07   234.79:  4721% ===============================================
2011-09-19     5.68 => 2015-09-14   230.00:  3949% =======================================
2011-09-26     4.82 => 2015-09-21   233.81:  4751% ===============================================
2011-10-03     3.99 => 2015-09-28   238.95:  5889% ==========================================================
2011-10-10     4.05 => 2015-10-05   245.71:  5967% ===========================================================
2011-10-17     2.27 => 2015-10-12   270.07: 11797% =====================================================================================================================
2011-10-24     3.95 => 2015-10-19   282.84:  7061% ======================================================================
2011-10-31     3.00 => 2015-10-26   310.18: 10239% ======================================================================================================
2011-11-07     3.35 => 2015-11-02   383.53: 11349% =================================================================================================================
2011-11-14     2.43 => 2015-11-09   333.00: 13604% ========================================================================================================================================
2011-11-21     2.77 => 2015-11-16   326.50: 11687% ====================================================================================================================
2011-11-28     2.93 => 2015-11-23   356.95: 12083% ========================================================================================================================
2011-12-05     3.20 => 2015-11-30   388.00: 12025% ========================================================================================================================
2011-12-12     3.44 => 2015-12-07   436.19: 12580% =============================================================================================================================
2011-12-19     4.33 => 2015-12-14   461.80: 10565% =========================================================================================================
2011-12-26     4.58 => 2015-12-21   417.39:  9013% ==========================================================================================
2012-01-02     6.80 => 2015-12-28   433.55:  6276% ==============================================================
2012-01-09     6.30 => 2016-01-04   448.84:  7024% ======================================================================
2012-01-16     6.77 => 2016-01-11   386.91:  5615% ========================================================
2012-01-23     4.91 => 2016-01-18   386.40:  7770% =============================================================================
2012-01-30     5.94 => 2016-01-25   375.64:  6224% ==============================================================
2012-02-06     5.50 => 2016-02-01   375.39:  6725% ===================================================================
2012-02-13     4.23 => 2016-02-08   390.99:  9143% ===========================================================================================
2012-02-20     5.00 => 2016-02-15   434.63:  8593% =====================================================================================
2012-02-27     4.65 => 2016-02-22   431.07:  9170% ===========================================================================================
2012-03-05     4.94 => 2016-02-29   399.83:  7994% ===============================================================================
2012-03-12     5.42 => 2016-03-07   410.90:  7481% ==========================================================================
2012-03-19     4.83 => 2016-03-14   409.04:  8369% ===================================================================================
2012-03-26     4.90 => 2016-03-21   416.96:  8409% ====================================================================================
2012-04-02     4.70 => 2016-03-28   419.00:  8815% ========================================================================================
2012-04-09     4.96 => 2016-04-04   418.24:  8332% ===================================================================================
2012-04-16     5.24 => 2016-04-11   430.69:  8119% =================================================================================
2012-04-23     4.91 => 2016-04-18   451.92:  9104% ===========================================================================================
2012-04-30     5.04 => 2016-04-25   448.37:  8796% =======================================================================================
2012-05-07     4.91 => 2016-05-02   458.07:  9229% ============================================================================================
2012-05-14     5.07 => 2016-05-09   455.57:  8886% ========================================================================================
2012-05-21     5.07 => 2016-05-16   443.31:  8644% ======================================================================================
2012-05-28     5.19 => 2016-05-23   519.41:  9908% ===================================================================================================
2012-06-04     5.48 => 2016-05-30   573.80: 10371% =======================================================================================================
2012-06-11     6.41 => 2016-06-06   610.00:  9416% ==============================================================================================
2012-06-18     6.45 => 2016-06-13   754.83: 11603% ====================================================================================================================
2012-06-25     6.61 => 2016-06-20   659.86:  9883% ==================================================================================================
2012-07-02     6.79 => 2016-06-27   702.48: 10246% ======================================================================================================
2012-07-09     7.55 => 2016-07-04   647.78:  8480% ====================================================================================
2012-07-16     8.74 => 2016-07-11   662.45:  7480% ==========================================================================
2012-07-23     8.88 => 2016-07-18   655.52:  7282% ========================================================================
2012-07-30    10.51 => 2016-07-25   654.67:  6129% =============================================================
2012-08-06    11.38 => 2016-08-01   589.48:  5080% ==================================================
2012-08-13    11.54 => 2016-08-08   583.52:  4956% =================================================
2012-08-20    10.57 => 2016-08-15   577.88:  5367% =====================================================
2012-08-27     9.91 => 2016-08-22   568.31:  5635% ========================================================
2012-09-03    10.97 => 2016-08-29   595.01:  5324% =====================================================
2012-09-10    11.63 => 2016-09-05   621.65:  5245% ====================================================
2012-09-17    11.97 => 2016-09-12   604.10:  4947% =================================================
2012-09-24    12.28 => 2016-09-19   599.33:  4781% ===============================================
2012-10-01    12.39 => 2016-09-26   612.98:  4847% ================================================
2012-10-08    11.85 => 2016-10-03   614.34:  5084% ==================================================
2012-10-15    11.60 => 2016-10-10   635.96:  5382% =====================================================
2012-10-22    10.43 => 2016-10-17   654.52:  6175% =============================================================
2012-10-29    10.66 => 2016-10-24   711.13:  6571% =================================================================
2012-11-05    10.81 => 2016-10-31   703.46:  6407% ================================================================
2012-11-12    11.57 => 2016-11-07   702.28:  5970% ===========================================================
2012-11-19    12.25 => 2016-11-14   750.75:  6029% ============================================================
2012-11-26    12.34 => 2016-11-21   729.91:  5815% ==========================================================
2012-12-03    13.36 => 2016-11-28   760.75:  5594% =======================================================
2012-12-10    13.38 => 2016-12-05   772.28:  5672% ========================================================
2012-12-17    13.20 => 2016-12-12   788.52:  5874% ==========================================================
2012-12-24    13.22 => 2016-12-19   892.61:  6652% ==================================================================
2012-12-31    13.15 => 2016-12-26   966.30:  7248% ========================================================================
2013-01-07    13.89 => 2017-01-02   906.20:  6424% ================================================================
2013-01-14    15.38 => 2017-01-09   818.27:  5220% ====================================================
2013-01-21    17.49 => 2017-01-16   921.98:  5171% ===================================================
2013-01-28    19.82 => 2017-01-23   918.60:  4535% =============================================
2013-02-04    23.14 => 2017-01-30  1033.18:  4365% ===========================================
2013-02-11    27.50 => 2017-02-06  1012.40:  3581% ===================================
2013-02-18    29.54 => 2017-02-13  1056.40:  3476% ==================================
2013-02-25    34.16 => 2017-02-20  1152.20:  3273% ================================
2013-03-04    46.00 => 2017-02-27  1260.00:  2639% ==========================
2013-03-11    46.74 => 2017-03-06  1176.55:  2417% ========================
2013-03-18    63.90 => 2017-03-13   969.40:  1417% ==============
2013-03-25    92.11 => 2017-03-20   956.02:   938% =========
2013-04-01   141.00 => 2017-03-27  1083.94:   669% ======
2013-04-08    91.64 => 2017-04-03  1184.03:  1192% ===========
2013-04-15   126.55 => 2017-04-10  1173.45:   827% ========
2013-04-22   128.80 => 2017-04-17  1233.20:   857% ========
2013-04-29   112.62 => 2017-04-24  1333.00:  1084% ==========
2013-05-06   115.04 => 2017-05-01  1558.02:  1254% ============
2013-05-13   118.49 => 2017-05-08  1776.89:  1400% =============
2013-05-20   128.97 => 2017-05-15  2013.99:  1462% ==============
2013-05-27   128.77 => 2017-05-22  2042.00:  1486% ==============
2013-06-03   109.11 => 2017-05-29  2540.94:  2229% ======================
2013-06-10    99.42 => 2017-06-05  2899.99:  2817% ============================
2013-06-17   100.00 => 2017-06-12  2630.00:  2530% =========================
2013-06-24    88.98 => 2017-06-19  2557.66:  2774% ===========================
2013-07-01    66.34 => 2017-06-26  2412.41:  3536% ===================================
2013-07-08    91.67 => 2017-07-03  2550.07:  2682% ==========================
2013-07-15    85.04 => 2017-07-10  1970.51:  2217% ======================
2013-07-22    88.16 => 2017-07-17  2832.71:  3113% ===============================
2013-07-29    95.55 => 2017-07-24  2680.56:  2705% ===========================
2013-08-05    93.51 => 2017-07-31  3263.62:  3390% =================================
2013-08-12    99.71 => 2017-08-07  3855.10:  3766% =====================================
2013-08-19   109.15 => 2017-08-14  4099.55:  3656% ====================================
2013-08-26   128.00 => 2017-08-21  4333.38:  3285% ================================
2013-09-02   119.93 => 2017-08-28  4599.90:  3735% =====================================
2013-09-09   124.49 => 2017-09-04  4308.72:  3361% =================================
2013-09-16   123.39 => 2017-09-11  3678.93:  2882% ============================
2013-09-23   126.54 => 2017-09-18  3779.17:  2887% ============================
2013-09-30   121.20 => 2017-09-25  4326.09:  3469% ==================================
2013-10-07   127.98 => 2017-10-02  4423.30:  3356% =================================
2013-10-14   166.00 => 2017-10-09  5801.29:  3395% =================================
2013-10-21   179.56 => 2017-10-16  6013.46:  3249% ================================
2013-10-28   204.86 => 2017-10-23  5730.69:  2697% ==========================
2013-11-04   341.24 => 2017-10-30  7388.83:  2065% ====================
2013-11-11   434.53 => 2017-11-06  6355.13:  1363% =============
2013-11-18   829.15 => 2017-11-13  7771.03:   837% ========
2013-11-25  1119.52 => 2017-11-20  8717.99:   679% ======
2013-12-02   693.30 => 2017-11-27 10872.00:  1468% ==============
2013-12-09   850.78 => 2017-12-04 14607.49:  1617% ================
2013-12-16   595.03 => 2017-12-11 19187.78:  3125% ===============================
2013-12-23   715.00 => 2017-12-18 14619.00:  1945% ===================
2013-12-30   828.79 => 2017-12-25 12640.00:  1425% ==============
2014-01-06   896.59 => 2018-01-01 17149.67:  1813% ==================
2014-01-13   810.00 => 2018-01-08 14197.78:  1653% ================
2014-01-20   806.80 => 2018-01-15 12775.99:  1484% ==============
2014-01-27   813.23 => 2018-01-22 11446.54:  1308% =============
2014-02-03   680.49 => 2018-01-29  9225.86:  1256% ============
2014-02-10   655.83 => 2018-02-05  8560.00:  1205% ============
2014-02-17   610.88 => 2018-02-12 11101.00:  1717% =================
2014-02-24   567.48 => 2018-02-19  9689.99:  1608% ================
2014-03-03   620.00 => 2018-02-26 11445.00:  1746% =================
2014-03-10   637.24 => 2018-03-05  8791.47:  1280% ============
2014-03-17   565.31 => 2018-03-12  7860.83:  1291% ============
2014-03-24   491.99 => 2018-03-19  8547.00:  1637% ================
2014-03-31   464.80 => 2018-03-26  6928.62:  1391% =============
2014-04-07   423.42 => 2018-04-02  6904.90:  1531% ===============
2014-04-14   503.80 => 2018-04-09  8000.41:  1488% ==============
2014-04-21   459.00 => 2018-04-16  8920.71:  1844% ==================
2014-04-28   439.00 => 2018-04-23  9345.11:  2029% ====================
2014-05-05   455.39 => 2018-04-30  9823.28:  2057% ====================
2014-05-12   449.06 => 2018-05-07  8481.60:  1789% =================
2014-05-19   528.44 => 2018-05-14  8231.20:  1458% ==============
2014-05-26   627.80 => 2018-05-21  7335.99:  1069% ==========
2014-06-02   657.13 => 2018-05-28  7642.00:  1063% ==========
2014-06-09   566.58 => 2018-06-04  7492.70:  1222% ============
2014-06-16   591.29 => 2018-06-11  6487.92:   997% =========
2014-06-23   589.56 => 2018-06-18  6177.38:   948% =========
2014-06-30   630.00 => 2018-06-25  6385.71:   914% =========
2014-07-07   638.10 => 2018-07-02  6759.99:   959% =========
2014-07-14   628.63 => 2018-07-09  6243.98:   893% ========
2014-07-21   596.23 => 2018-07-16  7409.92:  1143% ===========
2014-07-28   589.59 => 2018-07-23  8237.74:  1297% ============
2014-08-04   587.97 => 2018-07-30  7009.99:  1092% ==========
2014-08-11   521.97 => 2018-08-06  6239.98:  1095% ==========
2014-08-18   497.00 => 2018-08-13  6399.28:  1188% ===========
2014-08-25   500.85 => 2018-08-20  6732.40:  1244% ============
2014-09-01   479.78 => 2018-08-27  7185.01:  1398% =============
2014-09-08   477.98 => 2018-09-03  6178.31:  1193% ===========
2014-09-15   408.76 => 2018-09-10  6520.15:  1495% ==============
2014-09-22   401.77 => 2018-09-17  6710.01:  1570% ===============
2014-09-29   326.21 => 2018-09-24  6579.38:  1917% ===================
2014-10-06   362.00 => 2018-10-01  6544.08:  1708% =================
2014-10-13   390.58 => 2018-10-08  6199.69:  1487% ==============
2014-10-20   348.69 => 2018-10-15  6412.86:  1739% =================
2014-10-27   324.70 => 2018-10-22  6407.66:  1873% ==================
2014-11-03   345.39 => 2018-10-29  6335.00:  1734% =================
2014-11-10   376.99 => 2018-11-05  6349.32:  1584% ===============
2014-11-17   353.12 => 2018-11-12  5503.36:  1458% ==============
2014-11-24   375.49 => 2018-11-19  3785.65:   908% =========
2014-12-01   374.38 => 2018-11-26  4140.39:  1006% ==========
2014-12-08   351.67 => 2018-12-03  3398.80:   866% ========
2014-12-15   331.79 => 2018-12-10  3179.54:   858% ========
2014-12-22   316.47 => 2018-12-17  3980.90:  1158% ===========
2014-12-29   282.00 => 2018-12-24  3725.48:  1221% ============
2015-01-05   275.59 => 2018-12-31  3791.84:  1276% ============
2015-01-12   199.69 => 2019-01-07  3617.13:  1711% =================
2015-01-19   249.19 => 2019-01-14  3681.00:  1377% =============
2015-01-26   216.90 => 2019-01-21  3555.56:  1539% ===============
2015-02-02   228.30 => 2019-01-28  3462.82:  1417% ==============
2015-02-09   256.99 => 2019-02-04  3622.62:  1310% =============
2015-02-16   245.41 => 2019-02-11  3579.92:  1359% =============
2015-02-23   253.47 => 2019-02-18  4113.53:  1523% ===============
2015-03-02   276.71 => 2019-02-25  3810.46:  1277% ============
2015-03-09   282.01 => 2019-03-04  3916.43:  1289% ============
2015-03-16   260.00 => 2019-03-11  3990.00:  1435% ==============
2015-03-23   252.87 => 2019-03-18  3982.52:  1475% ==============
2015-03-30   253.70 => 2019-03-25  4094.92:  1514% ===============
2015-04-06   236.15 => 2019-04-01  5041.39:  2035% ====================
2015-04-13   223.40 => 2019-04-08  5063.63:  2167% =====================
2015-04-20   226.12 => 2019-04-15  5318.89:  2252% ======================
2015-04-27   233.83 => 2019-04-22  5168.91:  2111% =====================
2015-05-04   241.96 => 2019-04-29  5764.65:  2282% ======================
2015-05-11   235.66 => 2019-05-06  7217.47:  2963% =============================
2015-05-18   237.76 => 2019-05-13  7260.12:  2954% =============================
2015-05-25   232.11 => 2019-05-20  8064.64:  3374% =================================
2015-06-01   224.99 => 2019-05-27  8556.27:  3703% =====================================
2015-06-08   231.64 => 2019-06-03  7932.27:  3324% =================================
2015-06-15   244.76 => 2019-06-10  8857.19:  3519% ===================================
2015-06-22   251.21 => 2019-06-17 10661.30:  4144% =========================================
2015-06-29   260.20 => 2019-06-24 12755.99:  4802% ================================================

Puede verse que, si bien estamos bastante burbujosos últimamente, los rendimientos ya no son los que eran en Aquellos Maravillosos Años. Y si además de bitstamp cogemos datos de mtgox entonces aparecen unos rendimientos de 1.000.000% que me estropean del todo la cutre gráfica Grin (excepto que la ponga logarítmica pero meh)

Si en lugar de 4 años (208 semanas) usamos 3 años (156 semanas), ya sí que hay algunos períodos de estar en rojo, a finales de 2016:

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2013-11-18   829.15 => 2016-11-14   750.75:    -9% 
2013-11-25  1119.52 => 2016-11-21   729.91:   -35%
2013-12-09   850.78 => 2016-12-05   772.28:    -9%

El período de hodl más largo en el que se entra en rojo aunque solo sea un momentito es de 174 semanas (3 años y 4 meses):

Code:
2013-11-25  1119.52 => 2017-03-27  1083.94:    -3%

Es decir: que en el pasado, quien haya comprado, esperado 175 semanas (o más) y evaluado su posición, por mucho que haya entrado en el tope de la burbuja de los 1000 USD, nunca habrá visto números rojos.
The above post is in Spanish, but the first table with numeric data is self-explanatory. All 4 year rolling periods considered have a positive outcome. The second table (with only three rows) depicts the only three cases that would have a negative return if we consider a 3 year rolling period (instead of four years).
The last table (1 row) shows the only week measure that gives a negative return after 174 weeks of HODL. Anything above 174 weeks gave a positive return.
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July 10, 2019, 12:16:45 PM
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I don't understand the question. What interest rates? Bitcoin gives no interest. If you want interest on your coins you invest in POS coins. I assume you mean interest based on USD value? Based starting where exactly?
What base price? There simply isn't an answer to the question. Average returns?? What are you talking about?? In USD?? Based on?

Btw bitcoin is not an investment. It is a currency. Stop thinking about returns. You can't predict it. If you could people would be rich. This graph above me to me is meaningless. If this graph was right then people reading it would all be rich. The questions is flawed.

If you want to make bitcoin this isn't the way. Invest in alts. You can't just focus on bitcoin and that alone. Good luck to those who want to follow that graph though. Let me know how it goes for you.
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If a person had bought only $ 10 BTC each month in the last 10 years, he would have made millions of dollars today.
I think this explanation is enough for your average returns Wink
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