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July 14, 2019, 02:36:57 PM
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he is right.everybody knows that every exchanges especially small companies use bots and fake volume.and they are also manipulated by whales ofcourse.all i have to do is follow the trend.

Day trading is not as straightforward as following the trend, price manipulations are not as common for currencies such as Bitcoin with a very high market capitalization.
Day trading takes practice and majority would say luck to be successful.
Long term investments are a better option for those without the technical skills to trade, you simply have to buy and hodl.

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July 14, 2019, 02:42:10 PM
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everything in our lives is manipulated , why crypto should be different?
you wake up to the prices in your groceries changed according to the whim of the owners , the governments change laws without even bothering to listen to the people they "represent"
people are working for themselves , but they work more for those who understand more than themselves about the processes
cryptocurrencies is just a reflection of our lives in a small segment , those who have resources are able to drive the price up or down
it is normal , nothing to worry about - just accept it as it is and your  life will be easier

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July 14, 2019, 02:44:10 PM
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yes it is manipulated but it depends on your view if you will find it bad or good .

 i observed that majority of crypto enthusiast feel bad about manipulation especially if they are noob in the trading/investing industry because whenever they bought at highs and whales manipulate the coin they will loose and panic  .

 but for me i find it good because i can feel the benefits when whales manipulate the coin to go upwards  i can also sell my hodlings at a high price  .

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July 14, 2019, 02:49:04 PM
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The market is not naturally manipulated only that some groups are taking advantage of the unregulated system to somehow manipulate the prices of cryptocurrencies by doing fake volumes and speculations. This is the reality when bigtime holders want to have bigger profits in the future.
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July 14, 2019, 03:22:44 PM
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unfortunately the market is not healthy, the volumes of the various exchanges are artificially inflated, and the value of the market is altered by the whales, these variations take place cyclically, we ordinary mortals (average traders) should learn to make profit from all this...

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July 14, 2019, 05:47:56 PM
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Hey
It is bad enough to go from 3k to suddenly ..5-6k in just few days.. and then it again climbs to 10k ..
Crosses the barrier and then goes to 13k and suddenly falls to 10k soon enough ..
The market manipulation is consistently making the whole market distorted , the volatility has decreased but still it is higher than ever.
But at the same time it is opening up opportunities for others to actually do trading in Bitcoins and also .. for newcomers to join in the future bullish run.



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July 17, 2019, 03:24:03 AM
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I'm not sure how bad the crypto market manipulation is. but when viewed from the many problems such as fake volume on the market, price manipulation and scam projects. this is very disturbing, and can make the market look bad.

Scam projects have nothing to do with bitcoin...you can see that people scam other people in every part of this life but when we talk about fake volume this is the only thing lead us to ask the topic question

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July 17, 2019, 03:47:56 AM
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The hands with the large holdings will always tend to manipulate the market. This is quite common, and the manipulation done by these whales used to make a small disturbance in the market. Further the investment gets delayed as there emerges a panic wave whether to invest at the moment or wait for a moment. This will be used as the way to invest by the whales again and move the market again. As it is decentralized the manipulation from these whales were now much known and people won't react instantly causing deep fall in value.




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July 17, 2019, 06:48:39 AM
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Blockchain24.co have posted an interview with Joshua Frank, the TIE’s CEO, about cryptocurrency manipulations. TIE is monitoring the case of fake trading volumes, and according to Frank, this is a very common practice for many exchanges. He also lists many other cases of frauds in crypto industry.
Looks like condition of out industry is not in the best shape.
Let talk about manipulation in trading volumes, i found many fake volumes made by certain side to pump the altcoin (i don't wanna mention certain projects) . They increase the volumes of the coins until 300%. So, this also can occur on bitcoin since bitcoin has bigger community than alternative coins.

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July 17, 2019, 07:25:46 AM
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Yes we all know that crypto manipulate by the people who holding bitcoin.they wanted to hide it and hold it for a while then when bitcoin reach a higher prize they will sell it in that time.

investing in something and then selling it when you reach your price/profit target is not called manipulation. it is called the normal thing that any normal human being does and it is the exact definition of an "investment"!

"manipulation" is what is happening in altcoins for example. when a shitcoin out of nowhere rises up 100% in one day and then in the following day it drops just as much. that is called manipulation aka the pump and dump.

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July 17, 2019, 07:27:51 AM
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Crypto markets have been manipulated in some form or other since the massive pump in 2017....before that manipulation existed but nowhere as bad as now
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July 17, 2019, 07:54:04 AM
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Blockchain24.co have posted an interview with Joshua Frank, the TIE’s CEO, about cryptocurrency manipulations. TIE is monitoring the case of fake trading volumes, and according to Frank, this is a very common practice for many exchanges. He also lists many other cases of frauds in crypto industry.
Looks like condition of out industry is not in the best shape.

Cryptos being manipulated is partially true. Let me explain.

Cryptocurrencies are manipulated. These are manipulated in a sense that there is no equal distribution of tokens, coins, and other cryptos. We have what we call WHALES - people or group of people who holds a larger portion of the total supply of a coin. There's a huge tendency that these whales can control the value of a certain token or coin they hold. One way of doing so is by moving huge amount of their tokens in the market/exchange, selling it at a certain value/price, and buying it with their EXTRA ACCOUNTS for the value they requested in their primary account.

For example:

A certain token, let's say TOKEN A, has a total supply of 1,000,000 tokens. One whale holds 50% of it (500,000 Tokens). The starting value/market value of that is $1. Then the  total cap of this token is $1M. Let's assume that the other 50% is being distributed by 50,000 people (each has 10 tokens). If that whale put 100,000 tokens in the market and sold it for $2 per token, then bought it with his/her other accounts at $2, there will be an adjustment in the current market cap of TOKEN A. That will also affect the value of the tokens distributed among the 50,000 people.

1,000,000 Total supply @ $1 per token = $1,000,000
100,000 tokens sold @ $2 per token = $200,000

900,000 tokens will remain at $1 each before the remaining 100,000 tokens is sold at $2.

900,000 tokens @ $1 per token = $900,000
100,000 tokens @ $2 per token = $200,000
NEW TOTAL CAP = $1,100,000
1,100,000/1,000,000 = $1.1 -----> new value of 1 TOKEN A

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July 17, 2019, 09:24:39 AM
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This industry is not monitored by any government or institutions so big exchanges or players can manipulate the market or volume for a short time but I don't think they can do it for a longer period of time.
This is a recipe for disaster...why am saying this is because when these manipulations happen, usually what follows is someone is going to be cashing in after all this and in the process crashing the price temporary and cycle goes on making them money over and over again regardless of how low or high the  price is.

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July 17, 2019, 09:32:19 AM
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Everybody might be rich in crypto who entered the market before 2017.if marketcap is not so big and if there are groups who make decisions together, there is a manipulation and its normal.it will be less every each year

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July 17, 2019, 10:00:35 AM
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bad or not with crypto market manipulation if we can take the opportunity and the right time will produce results too.
use your instincts and abilities to be able to read the market conditions.

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July 21, 2019, 10:24:20 PM
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In a market that handles both capital and cryptocurrencies, it is not surprising that speculations arise, especially from the so-called "great whales". that are entrepreneurs who have a great control of a good part of the volume of some projects, then you have to play with supply and demand, but that scenario has always existed and I think it will continue in the future, so we just need to learn to observe with a lot Be careful how the market behaves and make the best decisions, although there will always be risks.
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July 21, 2019, 10:50:46 PM
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bad or not with crypto market manipulation if we can take the opportunity and the right time will produce results too.
use your instincts and abilities to be able to read the market conditions.

That is, if we know how to ride with those manipulators. If you have gain experience they obviously you can take advantage of the situation, but cheap coins and then wait for the incoming run, rinse and repeat.

Everybody might be rich in crypto who entered the market before 2017.if marketcap is not so big and if there are groups who make decisions together, there is a manipulation and its normal.it will be less every each year

The thing with 2017 is that there are a lot of noobs who FOMO and manipulators did have a field day playing with the price. There could be investors who really make a lot of money from 2017, but remember we did have a bear market following that so it's not like a continue day in day out money making scheme.

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It is somewhat to think that the market is manipulated by big whales just like they did before but I can say that it seems to be like that again.
We know how the looks if the market never been played by them, it gonna at low volatility percentage but we are glad to have them played cause it gives us also benefits. They aren't bad at all, in fact, it helps us to generate more gains as take advantage in every fluctuation we have.

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July 22, 2019, 02:53:32 AM
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It seems that the blockchain platform is not controlled by any organization or government, but its transactions are transparent. However, many criminals take advantage of this platform to illegally trade, launder money, buy weapons, ... that we cannot control. Some super-rich organizations have manipulated the market, it seems that this has strongly influenced investors and their trust.

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August 21, 2019, 04:56:25 PM
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The manipulation in the cryptosphere is real and is evident for all to see. Crypto is highly manipulated and you need to be a big shareholder like the whales to be able to manipulate the industry. People are always deceived whenever something is hyped. No wonder many exchanges keeps faking up volume to attract traders.
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