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July 15, 2019, 01:25:14 PM
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Hi i sell BTC for cash.  Please read condition. If you have a question, please write in pm

ALTERNATIVE non OTC Procedure :
1. We need the email address of the buyer so that I can send the on boarding forms via DocuSign.

2. After buyer KYC’s I send 1/3 keys of a bitcoin.com multi-signature wallet that has at least 500 BTC.

3. I create a telegram room with the buyer so we can strike the price there and place orders.

4. Buyer will take out $5 from his own multi-sig and I will approve the proposal. This will establish my ownership of the bitcoin.

5. Buyer sends a ledger transfer from their Citibank to my Citibank. A SWIFT wire is also an option but will take a little longer to clear typically between 2-3 business days. Domestic wires that I receive before 11am PST it will clear the same day.
Steps to place an order:
1. Clients sends telegram messages of how much money is about to be wired. I need to o ow ahead of time because I need to email my bank a pre-advice.

2. When wire clears or ledger transfer hits my account I message client via telegram.
3. We strike the price via telegram using Tradeblock price.

4. Once price is struck buyer will pull out the bitcoin from the multi-signature wallet. ( minus the (*agreed*)% commission fee).


1. Buyer and Seller sign the procedure document.
2. The buyer and the seller meet in the Seller's area agreed in advance.
3. At the meeting Seller and Buyer provides POC and POF.
4. The Buyer calls 6 digits and the Seller transfers 2000 bitcoins to other his e-wallet.
5. The Buyer provides the Seller with a statement of the Bank account proving the availability of funds. 6. The buyer checks the new wallet address in the blockchain.info to which the Seller transferred 2000 BTC.
7. The Parties register the contracts with the authorized banks for compliance and control.
8. The Seller and the Buyer agree on the date and place of the meeting for the transaction.
9. At the appointed time, the Seller and the Buyer meet for the transaction.
10. On previously purchased, in original packaging device Sides create a BTC wallet. The password on the e-wallet is entered by the Buyer. The device is in the hands of the Seller and Buyer.
11. The Seller sends the first tranche of the BTC to the created wallet.
12. After receipt of the first tranche of BTC Buyer transfers the amount of its value at the time of receipt to the account of the Seller.
13. After the money is credited to the account, the Seller transfers the device to the Buyer for transfer to his wallet.
13. The Parties agreed to carry first transaction out in the amount of 10 000 bitcoins..
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July 15, 2019, 04:43:01 PM
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2. After buyer KYC’s I send 1/3 keys of a bitcoin.com multi-signature wallet that has at least 500 BTC.
This means absolutely nothing as long as other parties (OP!) know the private key too. Because you offer fake security, I'm pretty sure it's a scam. BE CAREFUL and don't send this guy any money without trusted escrow (and any escrow suggested by OP shouldn't be considered).

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July 15, 2019, 06:02:16 PM
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No news.
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13. The Parties agreed to carry first transaction out in the amount of 10 000 bitcoins..
10000Bitcoins....
I would say 99% of all huge offers with phantastic amounts here at marketplace/bitcointalk are scam attempts.
Well, maybe 100%

Just in case(what I doubt) out there is really someone who wants to trade that amount:
Goto a commercial OTC-company.
Also some big exchanges offer OTC-Desks.

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July 16, 2019, 01:52:27 PM
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2. After buyer KYC’s I send 1/3 keys of a bitcoin.com multi-signature wallet that has at least 500 BTC.
This means absolutely nothing as long as other parties (OP!) know the private key too. Because you offer fake security, I'm pretty sure it's a scam. BE CAREFUL and don't send this guy any money without trusted escrow (and any escrow suggested by OP shouldn't be considered).

why scam?
we are meeting with you. You transfer money to me, I’m bitcoins to you. This procedure  occurs when we are together(next to each other, you can even hold my hands:)). Have you read the terms?
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July 16, 2019, 02:00:56 PM
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13. The Parties agreed to carry first transaction out in the amount of 10 000 bitcoins..
10000Bitcoins....
I would say 99% of all huge offers with phantastic amounts here at marketplace/bitcointalk are scam attempts.
Well, maybe 100%

Just in case(what I doubt) out there is really someone who wants to trade that amount:
Goto a commercial OTC-company.
Also some big exchanges offer OTC-Desks.

my turnovers 20,000 bitcoins per month
Well can you recommend me OTC-company.?
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July 16, 2019, 05:43:37 PM
Last edit: July 16, 2019, 06:03:21 PM by mr.relax
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Impressive, so you earn at least(1%) 200BTC a month, thats 2Mio USD PER MONTH. Gratulations. More than most small and medium exchanges make.
Well Bitfinex only made 300Mio USD a year with fees...
Just wonder where your Trust feedback remains. Its empty.Your account is exactly 2 days old.
In which cities you got offices?
You dont need a OTC-Company, you should run your own since long time, you are a multimillionaire...anyway you were growing that big without knowing where to find real OTC-Companies?
You should build at least a website, it costs less than your hourly income.
BTW, founding a real cryptocompany also costs less than you earn per hour...anyway, there is no moneytransfer by bank with amounts like 10000BTC=100Mio USD without a company and legal umbrella.
Sure you dont need to proof me anything.
Words are cheap.

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July 18, 2019, 08:28:49 AM
Last edit: July 20, 2019, 06:56:53 AM by mr.relax
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BTW, even the huge OTCdesk of Kraken has a minimum of "only" 10BTC.
But for sure you are 1000 times bigger  Grin Grin Grin
So maybe you are no scammer because you havent scammed yet, probably.
But at least you write BIG WORDS...I think you sit in an internet cafe in a poor third world country and try to afford your soft drink.

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2. After buyer KYC’s I send 1/3 keys of a bitcoin.com multi-signature wallet that has at least 500 BTC.
This means absolutely nothing as long as other parties (OP!) know the private key too. Because you offer fake security, I'm pretty sure it's a scam. BE CAREFUL and don't send this guy any money without trusted escrow (and any escrow suggested by OP shouldn't be considered).

why scam?
we are meeting with you. You transfer money to me, I’m bitcoins to you. This procedure  occurs when we are together(next to each other, you can even hold my hands:)). Have you read the terms?
because that's not how you use multisig wallet/address in a trade
if you use 2-of-3 multisig address, it should be created from 3 public keys from buyer, seller and intermediary
controlling all keys of multisig address and handing out to buyer doesn't provide security in this kind of trade

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July 23, 2019, 09:22:40 AM
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why not use invex.exchange ? they have no limits and you are on the good side  Wink you can sell your bitcoins there to your wallet and then withdraw it with transferwiese to bank or paypal or skrill !!

Why not use invex.exchange?
Your invex is probably a scamsite.
-Anonym hosted in panama
-No real imprint
-60 Days new Domain
-Nobody used this dubious site up to now(no reviews)
-The address in London is hard to believe
-The whole site is cheap made and does not fit to a london office in expensive area.

The whole site does not offer Fiat->Crypto or Crypto->Fiat
So why do you promote that with misleading info?
I am almost sure someone built with a budget less than 300 dollars his scamplatform.
Thats maybe the daily rent-rate for a toilet in this london area.

cryptogatenetwork, please stop spamming for this site in any thread...


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July 23, 2019, 06:10:48 PM
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Yes they have Crypto->Fiat. at ~8% above Kraken rate, well, but they have.
I just said its dubious because it is not a registered company and the address they publish is not true.
So even a company registered in the Seychelles is more transparent.

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July 23, 2019, 06:20:38 PM
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Yes they have Crypto->Fiat. at ~8% above Kraken rate, well, but they have.
I just said its dubious because it is not a registered company and the address they publish is not true.
So even a company registered in the Seychelles is more transparent.

I hate to keep derailing this thread, but there is something fishy about invex.exchange.  I think the address actually belongs to freight/mail forwarding company.  Here are a couple of other companies that return when searching for listings with that address:

ED&F Man Holdings
Capital markets, sugar and shipping – London
3 London Bridge Street
London
SE1 9SG
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 20 7089 8000
http://www.edfman.com/27-contact/worldwide-offices/europe/united-kingdom/730-uk-london

Femis
Category: Freight Forwarders
Address:
The News Building
3 London Bridge Street
London
SE1 9SG
Landline: 020 7089 8008
https://directory.oxfordmail.co.uk/company/1129851196944384

Definitely not finding a crypto exchange listed at that address.  Looking like a scam to me.  

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July 23, 2019, 07:35:41 PM
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I got a super easier way to do it. Best is Western union or MoneyGram. I have done this before easy. Not all this trouble
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