Livecoin participants should be tag?

[guoyu78]

If you are part of livecoin exchange then you can help that person to regain his money but if you are just doing that to get them back for the signature campaign and their benefits for yourself then it is not acceptable in my opinion.

Literally you are spamming for the sake of post counts or merits (some people are imagining like writing in meta/reputation/scam accusation will get them easy merits and some statistics are proving them right too).

1. To help anyone for any problem, we can be any entity.
2. Already I have mentioned it is now up to few concerned people.
3. I got negative trust due to some "distant" problem, also I had worked for livecoin for few months. I guess I got enough reasons to state my opinion.

It is not a matter for the single person what you will do if many people lost their money in the same way just like OP,you will refund everything?

You mean livecoin will keep on scamming people ? I have answered this on my first post itself. Again I request you to read carefully before raising a stupid question.

I like to remind you what your PT reads:

Keep it simple,stupid!

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[Findingnemo]

If you are part of livecoin exchange then you can help that person to regain his money but if you are just doing that to get them back for the signature campaign and their benefits for yourself then it is not acceptable in my opinion.

Literally you are spamming for the sake of post counts or merits (some people are imagining like writing in meta/reputation/scam accusation will get them easy merits and some statistics are proving them right too).

1. To help anyone for any problem, we can be any entity.
2. Already I have mentioned it is now up to few concerned people.
3. I got negative trust due to some "distant" problem, also I had worked for livecoin for few months. I guess I got enough reasons to state my opinion.

It is not a matter for the single person what you will do if many people lost their money in the same way just like OP,you will refund everything?

You mean livecoin will keep on scamming people ? I have answered this on my first post itself. Again I request you to read carefully before raising a stupid question.

I like to remind you what your PT reads:

Keep it simple,stupid!

Being a participant doesn't mean that you are part of the live coin exchange for these kind of issues.

You got negative trust for wearing a signature and like many people got but they removed their application and accepted that they did wrong thing so they were removed from their negative trust, if you likely to stand with live coin exchange that you might be have red trust until the accusations solved.

I am not spamming anything,if you feel that its spam just hit that report to moderator buton.

[No HATE]

If you are part of livecoin exchange then you can help that person to regain his money but if you are just doing that to get them back for the signature campaign and their benefits for yourself then it is not acceptable in my opinion.

Literally you are spamming for the sake of post counts or merits (some people are imagining like writing in meta/reputation/scam accusation will get them easy merits and some statistics are proving them right too).

1. To help anyone for any problem, we can be any entity.
2. Already I have mentioned it is now up to few concerned people.
3. I got negative trust due to some "distant" problem, also I had worked for livecoin for few months. I guess I got enough reasons to state my opinion.

It is not a matter for the single person what you will do if many people lost their money in the same way just like OP,you will refund everything?

You mean livecoin will keep on scamming people ? I have answered this on my first post itself. Again I request you to read carefully before raising a stupid question.

I like to remind you what your PT reads:

Keep it simple,stupid!

You are insulting livecoin for making an action that they don't want to do.Let them do their responsibilities, your only goal is to continue the campaign so you can benefit, but your solution is not even a temporary solution. Go fight for the campaign if you want justice for all campaigners, other campaigns with active scam accusations are still running and participants are freely wearing the signature without fear of getting tag.

[guoyu78]

I am not spamming anything,if you feel that its spam just hit that report to moderator buton.

I call you spammer because you are asking questions which are obviously answered within this topic. I mean your posts are not adding any value to the context in a constructive way but simply annoying as it seems you are too lazy to read but too active to ask questions.

Let them do their responsibilities, your only goal is to continue the campaign so you can benefit, but your solution is not even a temporary solution.

By participating their campaign, I feel it is my responsibility to suggest a solution. It may obviously benefit me if everything goes as per my vision. I am not scamming here anyone hence I am not beaching any moral.

other campaigns with active scam accusations are still running and participants are freely wearing the signature without fear of getting tag.

If there are reasons in my book then definitely I am available to fight for justice. Please understand, like yourself, I am also having a life outside this forum.

[No HATE]

If there are reasons in my book then definitely I am available to fight for justice. Please understand, like yourself, I am also having a life outside this forum.

Then spend some time here, you benefit on the forum and yet you cannot spend a little time to defend yourself and other who have no voice?
I don't know how much you are making in real life but I'm pretty sure you are not making a penny here.

[mindrust]

What settlement would be reasonable in your opinion?

By assuming there is only one scam accusation is open, I like to suggest a community driven settlement after realizing that livecoin is too firm with their TOS.

1. If old and new participants of livecoin campaigns like to support them financially, they may donate some BTC which could be at least half of what was actually claimed by izooomrud.
2. Escrow at least 0.15 BTC (and maximum 0.3BTC) (or current value of his altcoin) for paying to izooomrud.
3. Convince izooomrud to withdraw all scam accusation by assuming his lost money is about to be recovered.
4. Then, izooomrud may ask for recovery of his funds from livecoin by proving all negative effects were cleaned.
5. If livecoin will be refunding then donors may get back their BTC. But, regardless of livecoin's action against izooomrud in a given (or proposed) time-frame, I guess they still may be allowed to have campaign until another scam accusation will be raised.

Please note, I made this proposal based following assumptions (and facts):
1. Only one open scam accusation against livecoin.
2. Livecoin is ready to find a resolution if the problem will be discussed in closed manner.
3. There are enough community people will be ready to support livecoin financially due to their own good experience with them.

Finally, I was a one of old participant and I am ready to use/donate some 0.03 BTC  (10% of max) for enforcing livecoin to find a resolution within their TOS.

This is so much cringe.

You want campaign participants to pay izoomrud from their own pockets so you can continue to get paid and livecoin gets away with what they did. That's not going to happen.

You even want him to withdraw his accusations and delete what he said just because he'll get paid by the sig participants.

WHAT THE FUCK

That sounds more like you are trying to bribe izoomrud. Do you realize it?

[freedomgo]

If people remove their application I remove the neg, it is that simple (:

Please remove the tag. PM was sent.

[guoyu78]

You want campaign participants to pay izoomrud from their own pockets so you can continue to get paid

You are sounding like ALL participants are paying but ONLY I am going to get benefited. Participants pay and participants get continued to be benefited, where and what going wrong here. Due to their typical TOS, I am suggesting this. People/business from different country are having different practice and different belief. Moreover, this is just an attempt to support a business where I had worked, nothing more or nothing less.

You even want him to withdraw his accusations and delete what he said just because he'll get paid by the sig participants.

Money is money. There will be plenty of chances for livecoin to pay izoomrud and my proposal is based on all the donors may get refund too. This proposal is based on my understanding because like @suchmoon mentioned, something would have been missed-out/hidden due to translations. All the people here in this forum does not need to be an expert in English also does not need to be using a perfect translating services.

That sounds more like you are trying to bribe izoomrud.

No, people who have got benefited from a business trying to pay back by realizing their responsibilities. A typical TOS is a big concern here. When a business is more strict about their TOS, why not give them another chance which may cost some 5% to 10% of what they have already paid to the participants.

[johhnyUA]

First of all, if I didn't missed anything, this campaign still wasn't verified by Livecoin staff, so we don't even know that this campaign isn't fake.

You've missed. It was verified. I asked them in PM and they answered positively.

[2double0]

Wow, things get to catch fire too quickly these days.
I just gave an application but never changed to their signature as I was a lot more confused about the current situation Livecoin is facing (scam accusations and all), so I decided to wait and watch how it goes for a day or two! I'd like to thank myself for being this much patient and seeing this thread today. It was not about money for me and I thought that their accusations were resolved, but that was not the case so I never changed my signature and still a part of temtum till now.

[blurryeyed]

I got no problem with tagging scam promoters. Done.

[mindrust]

You want campaign participants to pay izoomrud from their own pockets so you can continue to get paid

You are sounding like ALL participants are paying but ONLY I am going to get benefited. Participants pay and participants get continued to be benefited, where and what going wrong here. Due to their typical TOS, I am suggesting this. People/business from different country are having different practice and different belief. Moreover, this is just an attempt to support a business where I had worked, nothing more or nothing less.

You even want him to withdraw his accusations and delete what he said just because he'll get paid by the sig participants.

Money is money. There will be plenty of chances for livecoin to pay izoomrud and my proposal is based on all the donors may get refund too. This proposal is based on my understanding because like @suchmoon mentioned, something would have been missed-out/hidden due to translations. All the people here in this forum does not need to be an expert in English also does not need to be using a perfect translating services.

That sounds more like you are trying to bribe izoomrud.

No, people who have got benefited from a business trying to pay back by realizing their responsibilities. A typical TOS is a big concern here. When a business is more strict about their TOS, why not give them another chance which may cost some 5% to 10% of what they have already paid to the participants.

Go on...

You are just validating Hhampuz's negative trust rating further.

This is bribing. Nothing else.

[No HATE]

EDIT1: Tagged all members that applied on the first page, will do 2nd page tomorrow.

It's time to tag other members as per schedule Hhampuz, I'm here to remind you if you forgotten.

Tag these DTs first and show us you are not afraid and fair.

1) Halmater
2) johhnyUA

And the rest is in the ss .https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Tv7tkG6SSwrSOyz8PlBpUNxslh7dTxKCcgXiu0sKu3A/edit#gid=0

[Findingnemo]

I am not spamming anything,if you feel that its spam just hit that report to moderator buton.

I call you spammer because you are asking questions which are obviously answered within this topic. I mean your posts are not adding any value to the context in a constructive way but simply annoying as it seems you are too lazy to read but too active to ask questions.

If you feel that my posts doesn't add anything to this discussion the don't hesitate to hit "Report to Moderator" button.

You are talking about your own benefits from their signature campaign so for that you are even ready to give money from your own pockets,what I said its not the right soultion to resolve this issue.

Anyone find me spamming? Report Me

[Hhampuz]

EDIT1: Tagged all members that applied on the first page, will do 2nd page tomorrow.

It's time to tag other members as per schedule Hhampuz, I'm here to remind you if you forgotten.

Tag these DTs first and show us you are not afraid and fair.

1) Halmater
2) johhnyUA

And the rest is in the ss .https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Tv7tkG6SSwrSOyz8PlBpUNxslh7dTxKCcgXiu0sKu3A/edit#gid=0

I'm sorry, who are you again? Did not realize I had to work around YOUR schedule. In time, I'll do it, today has just begun and quite frankly I have better things to do .

"Fair and not afraid" are interesting choices of words though. I assume you've already posted in this thread from your main account but why keep hiding behind the alt? Tell us how you really feel, from your real account, please.

[LoyceV]

Tag these DTs first and show us you are not afraid and fair.

2) johhnyUA

johhnyUA is no longer on DT2, he was/is included by kzv, but is now excluded by suchmoon and DarkStar_.

[guoyu78]

Hello Hhampuz and LoyceV,
I like to hear your opinion on this : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5167034.msg51895738#msg51895738

[Hhampuz]

Hello Hhampuz and LoyceV,
I like to hear your opinion on this : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5167034.msg51895738#msg51895738

My opinion: I, dont, care.

[LoyceV]

Hello Hhampuz and LoyceV,
I like to hear your opinion on this : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5167034.msg51895738#msg51895738

It's a terrible idea. You can't demand to remove a scam accusation before resolving the issue. That's not how any of this works.

[No HATE]

I'm sorry, who are you again? Did not realize I had to work around YOUR schedule. In time, I'll do it, today has just begun and quite frankly I have better things to do .

"Fair and not afraid" are interesting choices of words though. I assume you've already posted in this thread from your main account but why keep hiding behind the alt? Tell us how you really feel, from your real account, please.

Good excuse Hhampuz, keep dragging I have an alt account, just be fair as a DT and we will have no problem.

Tag these DTs first and show us you are not afraid and fair.

2) johhnyUA

johhnyUA is no longer on DT2, he was/is included by kzv, but is now excluded by suchmoon and DarkStar_.

hhmmmm...because he applied for livecoin campaign? Not enough yet, Hhampuz has to tag him/her.