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July 21, 2019, 05:08:59 PM
Last edit: November 18, 2019, 02:46:09 PM by LoyceV
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Ever wanted to see who's lying when a post has been deleted? This could help!

I've saved (most) unedited posts since September 12 last year, and sometimes get a request to dig up unedited data. Since I now (finally) have a VPS, I'm uploading the files (only for newly created posts).

See http://loyce.club/archive/posts/ for all posts
See http://loyce.club/archive/members/ for all posts made per a certain userID (currently not working)

URL format
I remove the last 4 digits from each userID, postID or topicID to get a directory name. Each directory contains up to 10,000 files.
Example: my userID is 459836. I use 45 as directory name, and 459836.html as file name:
http://loyce.club/archive/posts/45/459836.html (this link doesn't work yet)
If there's less than 4 digits, the directory name is 0.

What I do
  • I scrape posts within seconds, but upload them in batches every minute.
  • The list of posts per user is updated once a day (5:50 AM Amsterdam time) > This is still messy, I'm working on it!
  • Files are stored with their post number as file name. I use the first 4 digits as directory name, then upload 10,000 files per directory. You're going to want to use CTRL-F Tongue
  • I don't scrape hidden boards (such as Investigations).
  • I don't keep post titles
  • I save raw HTML. That means quotes are not very clear, you'll have to read the source code (CTRL-U) to be sure who posted what.
    This is experimental, uploading might fail. By the looks of it, my current webhost will run out of disk space in a couple of weeks. I'll see how it goes. If I run out of space, I might create compressed archives per 10,000 posts.
  • Or I might delete them, so feel free to archive posts.

If anything goes wrong, let me know here.



Example
This is the unedited version of this post: http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5190/51902990.html (the layout looks better in more recent archived posts).

Update
I've added a list of all posts per user (for posts made from now on). This could be used to find deleted posts.



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quotes are not very clear

If you'd like to fix that: wrap the HTML in <div class="post">...</div> and use the following CSS:

Code:
   .post {
        color: #000000;
        background-color: #ECEDF3;
        font-size: 12px;
        font-family: verdana, sans-serif;
        margin-bottom: 5px;
        padding: 5px;
    }

    .post .quoteheader {
        color: #476C8E;
        text-decoration: none;
        font-style: normal;
        font-weight: bold;
        font-size: 10px;
        line-height: 1.2em;
        margin-left: 6px;
    }

    .post .quote {
        color: #000000;
        background-color: #f1f2f4;
        border: 1px solid #d0d0e0;
        padding: 5px;
        margin: 1px 3px 6px 6px;
        font-size: 11px;
        line-height: 1.4em;
    }

It's by no means complete (still has problems with code tags etc) but should help with the quotes and makes it look similar to Bitcointalk styling. You can save it as a .css file and just reference in each html so space usage would be minimal and then you can adjust the CSS as needed.

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If you'd like to fix that: wrap the HTML in <div class="post">...</div> and use the following CSS:
Thanks!
The "div class post" part is there already, I never removed it. I'll make some more adjustments, I was lazy using some headers from the forum HTML, but I'll recreate them on my own.

I've named it suchmoon.css Smiley

Code:
I'm creating a new post to test the new version. I'm also adding some code

Update: see http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5190/51903915.html

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The "div class post" part is there already, I never removed it. I'll make some more adjustments, I was lazy using some headers from the forum HTML, but I'll recreate them on my own.

I've named it suchmoon.css Smiley

Feel free to call it theymos.css because it's mostly stolen from here: https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/style.css Smiley

You can steal borrow more stuff from the above file, like the .code class

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Last edit: July 21, 2019, 07:24:16 PM by LoyceV
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Feel free to call it theymos.css because it's mostly stolen from here: https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/style.css Smiley

You can steal borrow more stuff from the above file, like the .code class
I didn't know CSS is that easy Cheesy

It works Cheesy See http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5190/51904241.html

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This morning, I checked http://loyce.club/archive/posts/members/?SD and it instantly revealed a spammer: http://loyce.club/archive/posts/members/1514722.html
It got me thinking: I can create a daily list of users (sorted by the number of posts they made in the past 24 hours). That would instantly highlight users who post a lot, and makes it easy to identify bump spammers. If anyone's interested to check it once in a while, I'll make it Smiley

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Bump!

This morning, I checked http://loyce.club/archive/posts/members/?SD and it instantly revealed a spammer: http://loyce.club/archive/posts/members/1514722.html
It got me thinking: I can create a daily list of users (sorted by the number of posts they made in the past 24 hours). That would instantly highlight users who post a lot, and makes it easy to identify bump spammers. If anyone's interested to check it once in a while, I'll make it Smiley

I thought I'd see how significant the posts step down at the 8k/4k file size:



the middle one had just one post while the first and third have 29 and eight respectively.  I guess the posting list will ebb and surge during holidays and work days/week-ends.  Perhaps a known spammers' link be changed to another colour? (red/purple/orange etc for spammer/scammer nuked Flag etc)??

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I thought I'd see how significant the posts step down at the 8k/4k file size:



the middle one had just one post while the first and third have 29 and eight respectively. 
The third one in your list has 8 posts. Those 8k/4k aren't real file sizes, I think the webserver shows the block size it uses on the file system.
That means this isn't the best way to sort files. I'll add it to my TODO: create a index.html with more information.

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Perhaps a known spammers' link be changed to another colour? (red/purple/orange etc for spammer/scammer nuked Flag etc)??
I can strike out banned users (also on my TODO now), but since they're still posting, that won't be many users yet.

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Where might we post our findings?
I'm not sure, maybe a separate thread?

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Instead of the 8k/4k approx file size an actual post count?

Also, (am making work for you now) a sort by file name / last posted etc?

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Where might we post our findings?
I'm not sure, maybe a separate thread?

Perhaps self moderated and a simple code

Code:
date: (time GMT)
name+uid
post count
post type: scam [] one line [] signature [] bump []

people can see when the posts were last reviewed so they aren't doubling up on work?

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Just a thought: if I get deleted posts from modlog, I can highlight them too.

Another idea: list posts for each topicID, so it's easier to find posts that have been deleted from a certain topic.

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The member directory got messed up, I can't access my VPS from here so just don't look at it for the coming week.....

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So, just that I understand what's going on here, you're saving the first version of every post made by everybody, ever? I don't quite get what you're doing I guess.

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you're saving the first version of every post made by everybody, ever?
Correct.

Update.

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you're saving the first version of every post made by everybody, ever?
Correct.

Update.
I think it should be the version of posts within 15 minutes (if I am remembering correctly) after published. It will be more matched with forum data. Only posts edited after 15 minutes will be shown with editing history and last editing time.
are all my edits within the first 10 minutes also logged?

No, edits in the grace period are not logged.

btw, is this still the same TradeFortress?

Probably.
[New Feature] "Last edit" to be shown as text on mobile. FIXED! 10x Theymos:)




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I think it should be the version of posts within 15 minutes (if I am remembering correctly) after published. It will be more matched with forum data. Only posts edited after 15 minutes will be shown with editing history and last editing time.
Posts can be edited for 10 minutes without showing (or even keeping!) an edit history. But I'm not aiming to match the forum, I'm aiming to show the unedited post. And I can only download posts from recent when they're new, searching for posts that are 10 minutes old will be more work.

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Wow Loyce, you've really managed to outdo yourself this time.

Can we keep this on the downlow, I'm sure it could be quite a weapon, lol.

I'm just kidding, about the downlow part. If its a weapon everyone should have equal access to it.

Its going to be a great utility for busting liars.

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I think it should be the version of posts within 15 minutes (if I am remembering correctly) after published. It will be more matched with forum data. Only posts edited after 15 minutes will be shown with editing history and last editing time.
Posts can be edited for 10 minutes without showing (or even keeping!) an edit history. But I'm not aiming to match the forum, I'm aiming to show the unedited post. And I can only download posts from recent when they're new, searching for posts that are 10 minutes old will be more work.
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August 03, 2019, 08:50:43 AM
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I'm sure it could be quite a weapon, lol.
If the truth can be used as a weapon against someone, he totally deserves it Tongue

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Its going to be a great utility for busting liars.
I'm not sure yet how to keep it long-term though, it currently grows at a rate of about 2 GB and a couple of hundred thousand files per month. I'll get a bigger hosting soon, but long-term, I'm looking at some serious hosting requirements.
My first priority is moving more of my data to a VPS, and get a more permanent solution (the current VPS is paid per month).

Checked it, and saw only ten pages available. Is it a fixed one (for all)?
I only download the first page, there's not really a need to download other pages, as long as I get the first one often enough.



Just a thought: if I get deleted posts from modlog, I can highlight them too.
To answer my own suggestion: this won't work, modlog doesn't show which post was deleted.

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August 03, 2019, 08:58:57 AM
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I'm sure it could be quite a weapon, lol.
If the truth can be used as a weapon against someone, he totally deserves it Tongue

Well said. Quotable LoyceV.

Of course you are inadvertently insinuating that women never lie.  Cheesy

I'm thinking eventually it will be handy in trying to compare writing styles between users, in addition to the usual "but you originally said this" type situations.

I know you could probably parse all the text from particular users from the forum itself, but in the format on your server its easier for me to attempt such a thing.

I encourage you to keep it up as long as you can.


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August 07, 2019, 07:34:49 AM
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Hmm... Website seems to be down, might want to take a look at it...

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