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October 16, 2019, 02:12:34 PM
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And who funded and enabled Marx? Actually go read the book turd burgler.

And who funded Proudhon, Owen, Herzen, Thomas More (200 years before WallStreet),  Jean Jacques Rousseau and many others? Of course, we have obvious answer to it: reptilians
They created communism to keep
world government.

which is emmissary of Nibiru forces

I never claimed they invented the concept, but developed, funded, and molded modern communism as we know it.

Your right, the idea that bankers want to control everything and everyone and form international government above national sovereignty is a whacky conspiracy theory! Never mind openly stated goals of world government and generations of banker enslavement... reptilians. Your ability for debate is on par with a drunk toddler with down syndrome.


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I never claimed they invented the concept, but developed, funded, and molded modern communism as we know it.

Your right, the idea that bankers want to control everything and everyone and form international government above national sovereignty is a whacky conspiracy theory! Never mind openly stated goals of world government and generations of banker enslavement... reptilians. Your ability for debate is on par with a drunk toddler with down syndrome.

Let's be clear, you're trying to manipulate.

Your first statement was:
Communism itself was the creation of European and US bankers to serve as an antithesis to capitalism and serve as a form of controlled opposition.

Now, you're trying to concatenate two statements: "Communism itself was the creation of European and US bankers" and "idea that bankers want to control everything and everyone and form international government above national sovereignty"

Even i agree with second, this doesn't mean that first is right. Even if they use communism and socialism as a weapon now, this doesn't mean that they created it.

For example: I'm using a gun. This is doesn't mean that i invented this gun. This doesn't mean that i manufactured this gun. This just mean that i'm using it, nothing more.

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October 17, 2019, 06:46:42 AM
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I never claimed they invented the concept, but developed, funded, and molded modern communism as we know it.

Your right, the idea that bankers want to control everything and everyone and form international government above national sovereignty is a whacky conspiracy theory! Never mind openly stated goals of world government and generations of banker enslavement... reptilians. Your ability for debate is on par with a drunk toddler with down syndrome.

Let's be clear, you're trying to manipulate.

Your first statement was:
Communism itself was the creation of European and US bankers to serve as an antithesis to capitalism and serve as a form of controlled opposition.

Now, you're trying to concatenate two statements: "Communism itself was the creation of European and US bankers" and "idea that bankers want to control everything and everyone and form international government above national sovereignty"

Even i agree with second, this doesn't mean that first is right. Even if they use communism and socialism as a weapon now, this doesn't mean that they created it.

For example: I'm using a gun. This is doesn't mean that i invented this gun. This doesn't mean that i manufactured this gun. This just mean that i'm using it, nothing more.

Communism wasn't an organized movement before Marx came along. Marx and The Bolshevik Revolution were all the creation of Western bankers. Effectively this is when it was created. You jerk yourself off with semantics all you like. Hey you know what, Hitler didn't invent fascism! Nope, he just happened to foster the most well known and destructive form of it that everyone identifies fascism with today, but what is important is he didn't invent the idea!


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October 17, 2019, 05:22:58 PM
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Communism wasn't an organized movement before Marx came along. Marx and The Bolshevik Revolution were all the creation of Western bankers. Effectively this is when it was created. You jerk yourself off with semantics all you like. Hey you know what, Hitler didn't invent fascism! Nope, he just happened to foster the most well known and destructive form of it that everyone identifies fascism with today, but what is important is he didn't invent the idea!

For honest, i'm very doubt about that. About Marx as creation of banks. It's easy: it was 1867 (his work Capital) USA was young country with own problems (colonisation of Wild West, Civil War and others) and in fact, banks of German, USA, England was decentralized from each other. They can't create such conspiracy with specific person (Marx).

And bolsheviks have appeared 50 years after Marx. Creation of USSR could be German and USA plan. But nor a creation of Marx, lol. Banks and goverments can create some figure now, with modern technoligies. But in 19th century it looks like conspiracy theory.

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For honest, i'm very doubt about that. About Marx as creation of banks. It's easy: it was 1867 (his work Capital) USA was young country with own problems (colonisation of Wild West, Civil War and others) and in fact, banks of German, USA, England was decentralized from each other. They can't create such conspiracy with specific person (Marx).

And bolsheviks have appeared 50 years after Marx. Creation of USSR could be German and USA plan. But nor a creation of Marx, lol. Banks and goverments can create some figure now, with modern technoligies. But in 19th century it looks like conspiracy theory.

Marx was an unemployed leech. Who do you think funded his lifestyle while he wrote his manifesto as well as other works? Remember, he didn't even write it alone either... there was a shadowy hand next to him the whole time funding and making his own contributions from behind the scenes. Furthermore it is possible for people to hold independent ideas and still have them manipulated to serve a purpose. They CAN'T create such a conspiracy? That is quite an assumption.

Another important part of this story, Marxism is based largely on the work of Hegel, specifically The Hegelian Dialectic.

Thesis + antithesis = synthesis or problem + reaction = solution

In the case of Marx, capitalism + communism = international government

Communism was never the final goal, but a means to an end.

So your argument is because The Bolshevik Revolution happened decades later, it couldn't be the creation of bankers? Communism is designed to be the system that lets them pick the bones of a nation clean after they have exploited capitalism to is maximal extent. It is right in the Communist flag for fuck sake. The hammer and the sickle are ancient symbols. The hammer represents building, the creation of capital, and Capitalism. The sickle represents the harvest, destruction, and Communism.

I suggest you actually read the book I linked. It is free in full for fuck sake, how easy does it need to be? It is not even that long.

https://archive.org/stream/WallStreetTheBolshevikRevolution/WallStreetTheBolshevikRevolution_djvu.txt


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October 20, 2019, 04:49:16 PM
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Marx was an unemployed leech. Who do you think funded his lifestyle while he wrote his manifesto as well as other works? Remember, he didn't even write it alone either... there was a shadowy hand next to him the whole time funding and making his own contributions from behind the scenes. Furthermore it is possible for people to hold independent ideas and still have them manipulated to serve a purpose. They CAN'T create such a conspiracy? That is quite an assumption.

Friedrich Engels of course, his rich friend. Capitalist in fact  Grin

You called him shadowy hand in fact  Grin

I will look into your article a little bit later, but i really don't think that Marx was creation of evil banks and evil jews. More like he was some kind of hypocrite who lived from "exploitation" of workers who worked for Engels.

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October 28, 2019, 11:25:16 PM
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Marx was an unemployed leech. Who do you think funded his lifestyle while he wrote his manifesto as well as other works? Remember, he didn't even write it alone either... there was a shadowy hand next to him the whole time funding and making his own contributions from behind the scenes. Furthermore it is possible for people to hold independent ideas and still have them manipulated to serve a purpose. They CAN'T create such a conspiracy? That is quite an assumption.

Friedrich Engels of course, his rich friend. Capitalist in fact  Grin

You called him shadowy hand in fact  Grin

I will look into your article a little bit later, but i really don't think that Marx was creation of evil banks and evil jews. More like he was some kind of hypocrite who lived from "exploitation" of workers who worked for Engels.

I told you that Communism was the creation of Western bankers. What about your comments is antithetical to my premise?


"Hong Kong Protest is First Confrontation in “New Cold War”—Marion Smith | American Thought Leaders"

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I was watching this video and it had a great letter from a former Chinese student of his I thought was worth sharing: https://youtu.be/1WNLEicinw8?t=332


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