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October 27, 2019, 06:50:08 AM
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The Bangladesh players should be cautious here. Look at what happened to the Sri Lankans last time. Many of their senior players refused to play in Pakistan due to safety reasons. And therefore they sent a squad, that was primarily composed of youngsters. But they performed beyond all expectations in Pakistan and now many of these senior players are finding that their slots are under threat. The Bangladeshi players should not make the same mistake. If they refuse to play, then obviously the BCB will pick players from the B team or the U19 team.
For Srilanka it was a blessing in disguise as the senior players took a break because of security reasons and the Srilankan board was forced to find some new talents, if not i doubt there will be any change as the Srilankan selectors was not looking for new talents until they were forced to when the senior players refused to play in Pakistan. If the Bangladesh board can find new talents it is good for the team Wink.

As posted by Little Mouse above, the issue has been resolved and the senior players will turn up for the series against India. So we may not witness a repeat of all the drama and turmoil that the Sri Lankans experienced before their tour of Pakistan. Anyway we can't compare the two disputes, as the first one was over wages and the second one over security issues.

It is true that the Pakistan series gave the Sri Lankan selectors an opportunity to test new talent. And some of them (especially Wanindu Hasaranga and batsmen such as Shehan Jayasuriya) performed so well during that tour, that they found a permanent place in the senior side. No such possibility here, as the issues have been resolved. Anyway, my feeling is that against a strong side such as India, it will be better to go with the tried and tested.

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October 27, 2019, 07:27:36 AM
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Anyway, BCB has decided to go with the demand of the players and hence, no more issue. Everyone will play other than Tamim.
Increasing the salaries/allowances and other demands seem to be enforceable. But, have the current committee members of CWAB resigned? Because that was on top of their demands. Or did the players didn't press it too much when their other demands were met?
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/sports.ndtv.com/cricket/bangladesh-cricket-board-to-sue-captain-shakib-al-hasan-2123039%3famp=1&akamai-rum=off

Looks like the Bangladesh team are going to face a major hurdle if Shakib is not a part of the team.

But, have the current committee members of CWAB resigned? Because that was on top of their demands. Or did the players didn't press it too much when their other demands were met?
Nope. Based on my research, none of the committee members resigned. The players were clearly expecting too much which is why they were satisfied with the 50% pay hike which is the best decision in my opinion.

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^ Politics at it best. Hang the only cricketer who happens to be lone warrior for Bengali cricket and guess they didn't even announced Test squad for Ind vs Ban series.
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October 27, 2019, 12:18:23 PM
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Looks like the Bangladesh team are going to face a major hurdle if Shakib is not a part of the team.

I think the legal action initiated against Shakib has nothing to do with him playing in the T20 series. The only change that I know of is Tamim Iqbal being replaced by Imrul Kayes and saifuddin being ruled out because of injury

This is the T20 squad for the Indian Tour announced by BCB.
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^ Politics at it best. Hang the only cricketer who happens to be lone warrior for Bengali cricket and guess they didn't even announced Test squad for Ind vs Ban series.

The BCB thinks that Shakib Al Hasan was the mastermind behind the recent player protests. The board had to give in to most of the demands made by the players, as they had to finalize the team for the India tour. Shakib reportedly signed a deal with a local telecom company named "Grameenphone", which the BCB claims is in violation to the central contract clauses.

Nazmul Hasan (BCB president) seems to be very unhappy with Shakib and he looks very much decided to make life hell for Shakib. The issue here is that Robi Axiata Limited (DBA Robi) has been the title sponsor of the Bangladesh cricket team for the past few years, and they happen to be a rival of Grameenphone. The BCB has enough justifications at their hand.

BTW, the wages for domestic cricketers in Bangladesh is set to rise by 100% as per the deal reached between BCB and the players.

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October 27, 2019, 12:25:34 PM
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I think the legal action initiated against Shakib has nothing to do with him playing in the T20 series. The only change that I know of is Tamim Iqbal being replaced by Imrul Kayes.
I thought they will avoid Shakib Al Hasan from the team because of the legal actions the cricket board is going to take, he is the best player in the team and even if Shakib Al Hasan violated their contract and if he is excluded because of that the general public will voice their opinion against the cricket board and it will put pressure on them, so what are the restrictions and legal actions they are planning against him .

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^ Politics at it best. Hang the only cricketer who happens to be lone warrior for Bengali cricket and guess they didn't even announced Test squad for Ind vs Ban series.
It is strange to see that the players are striking against the cricket board, we have seen fights from the West Indies players and the cricket board did not listen to their demands and hence many players were not playing for sometime as they selected players who are not contracted with them and hence it is noted that the BCB agreed to their demands it looks like we will see further strikes to bend to their demands in the future.
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October 27, 2019, 02:04:12 PM
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Looks like the Bangladesh team are going to face a major hurdle if Shakib is not a part of the team.
I think the legal action initiated against Shakib has nothing to do with him playing in the T20 series. The only change that I know of is Tamim Iqbal being replaced by Imrul Kayes and saifuddin being ruled out because of injury
Shakib might probably not perform well due to this controversy and I doubt they will retain him in the future matches due to his contract breach. Both Shakib and the board are at fault here and they need to find a way to resolve this peacefully.

BTW, the wages for domestic cricketers in Bangladesh is set to rise by 100% as per the deal reached between BCB and the players.
Not sure where you got this information from. I found out that there would be a 50% pay hike to 1st class players through the link that I shared above.

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October 27, 2019, 02:26:56 PM
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Shakib might probably not perform well due to this controversy and I doubt they will retain him in the future matches due to his contract breach. Both Shakib and the board are at fault here and they need to find a way to resolve this peacefully.


I think the board is only seeking compensation for the deal signed and the losses that the board will incurr due to the personal deal. Though I am still not sure if they will not retain due to contract breach? Will they.
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October 27, 2019, 02:33:38 PM
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The players were demanding a rise of 300% (from 35,000 taka per match to 100,000 taka). I am not sure how much they got. But I have a feeling that they are asking for too much. In India, the Ranji trophy players are being paid ₹140,000 for every four-day match. The Bangladeshi players are asking for similar salary... and I don't know whether the board can afford that.
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October 27, 2019, 03:40:30 PM
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I think the board is only seeking compensation for the deal signed and the losses that the board will incurr due to the personal deal. Though I am still not sure if they will not retain due to contract breach? Will they.

As you said they'll probably ask for compensation for the loss incurred and even bar him from future series after the Indian Tour. But I don't think that he'll be kicked out of the upcoming Indian tour, as there is only a week left for the start of the tour, one of the best allrounder in the team, no better player to replace him, no announcement regarding his removal yet and he is smiling during the practice session  Tongue
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I think the board is only seeking compensation for the deal signed and the losses that the board will incurr due to the personal deal. Though I am still not sure if they will not retain due to contract breach? Will they.

As you said they'll probably ask for compensation for the loss incurred and even bar him from future series after the Indian Tour. But I don't think that he'll be kicked out of the upcoming Indian tour, as there is only a week left for the start of the tour, one of the best allrounder in the team, no better player to replace him, no announcement regarding his removal yet and he is smiling during the practice session  Tongue

Why do you think that he'll be kicked out? The Bangladesh T20 squad was announced almost two weeks back, and as per the statement issued by the BCB Shakib Al Hasan will be captaining the side. They even selected Arafat Sunny, who went to jail for sexual abuse. And Minhajul Abedin justified his selection by claiming that they badly needed experienced players against India. 
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October 27, 2019, 05:36:09 PM
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The players were demanding a rise of 300% (from 35,000 taka per match to 100,000 taka). I am not sure how much they got. But I have a feeling that they are asking for too much. In India, the Ranji trophy players are being paid ₹140,000 for every four-day match. The Bangladeshi players are asking for similar salary... and I don't know whether the board can afford that.
When you see these kind of salaries we want our kids to play cricket as they will earn a months salary playing a four day game  Cheesy. I had no idea Ranji players will be getting this much salary for a game and it is not a small amount by any means and if the players are demanding 300% increase in salary is too much to bargain and i highly doubt that the cricket board will accept that demand but there will be a substantial increase but not the level they are demanding.
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The players were demanding a rise of 300% (from 35,000 taka per match to 100,000 taka). I am not sure how much they got. But I have a feeling that they are asking for too much. In India, the Ranji trophy players are being paid ₹140,000 for every four-day match. The Bangladeshi players are asking for similar salary... and I don't know whether the board can afford that.

All depends upon the board and their willingness to pay for the players . I think if they want quality  and a good team then they will have to pay the best to their players who can serve their country the best and also help them to make a good living out of it .

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October 27, 2019, 06:08:07 PM
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The players were demanding a rise of 300% (from 35,000 taka per match to 100,000 taka). I am not sure how much they got. But I have a feeling that they are asking for too much. In India, the Ranji trophy players are being paid ₹140,000 for every four-day match. The Bangladeshi players are asking for similar salary... and I don't know whether the board can afford that.
When you see these kind of salaries we want our kids to play cricket as they will earn a months salary playing a four day game  Cheesy. I had no idea Ranji players will be getting this much salary for a game and it is not a small amount by any means and if the players are demanding 300% increase in salary is too much to bargain and i highly doubt that the cricket board will accept that demand but there will be a substantial increase but not the level they are demanding.

On average, an Indian domestic player takes part in a minimum of 7-8 first-class matches, in addition to a similar number of T20 and 50-over matches. So we can expect them to earn somewhere around ₹15,00,000 to ₹20,00,000 per year, on top of other perks such as daily allowances and food coupons. This might seem a low salary for those in the developed nations, but in India this is very significant.

But the thing is that while BCCI is a rich body which can afford these sort of salaries, BCB may not be able to afford it.
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October 28, 2019, 04:47:35 AM
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As you said they'll probably ask for compensation for the loss incurred and even bar him from future series after the Indian Tour. But I don't think that he'll be kicked out of the upcoming Indian tour, as there is only a week left for the start of the tour, one of the best allrounder in the team, no better player to replace him, no announcement regarding his removal yet and he is smiling during the practice session  Tongue

Why do you think that he'll be kicked out? -skip-

I didn't say he'll be kicked out of the Indian tour Roll Eyes
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On average, an Indian domestic player takes part in a minimum of 7-8 first-class matches, in addition to a similar number of T20 and 50-over matches. So we can expect them to earn somewhere around ₹15,00,000 to ₹20,00,000 per year, on top of other perks such as daily allowances and food coupons. This might seem a low salary for those in the developed nations, but in India this is very significant.

But the thing is that while BCCI is a rich body which can afford these sort of salaries, BCB may not be able to afford it.

Even in India, the salaries used to be very low. Earlier, the Ranji Trophy players used to receive ₹10,000 per day as the match fees (until 2016-17). This was increased to ₹40,000 per day during the 2017-18 season. Also, during the same year it was decided to increase the number of first class sides from 29 to 37 by adding new teams such as Manipur and Mizoram.

I am not very happy with the domestic cricket structure in India. There are simply too many first class sides. 37 is just too many, and it drags down the quality of the game. In Australia, they have only 6 teams and the quality of the domestic cricket is perhaps the best in the world. Even in England, they have only 18 county sides. And in India, many of the states have as many as 3 first class teams (Gujarat, Maharashtra.etc). 

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Finally, Good news in regards of Day-Night Test and attracting more crowd. let's hope Bangladesh cricket board calculate all pro-cons and comes up with best decision. 

India propose Day-Night Test at Eden Gardens; Bangladesh yet to confirm

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"They [BCCI] have proposed [Day-Night Test] us and we will let them know after thinking a while," BCB cricket operation chairman Akram Khan told reporters on Sunday. We have received the letter two or three days and we will take a decision in this regard but we have not discussed about it. We will let them know about our decision within one or two days," Akram Khan said.

BCB chief executive Nizamuddin Chowdhury said they cannot guarantee anything as yet because the decision depends on the players and team management.

"At first we have to take the consent of the players and members of the team managements about it. It is totally a technical matter [playing day-night Test from skill perspective] and we have to consider that there is preparation required to play a Test with a pink ball," Chouwdhury said.
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October 28, 2019, 07:50:07 AM
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I am not very happy with the domestic cricket structure in India. There are simply too many first class sides. 37 is just too many, and it drags down the quality of the game. In Australia, they have only 6 teams and the quality of the domestic cricket is perhaps the best in the world. Even in England, they have only 18 county sides. And in India, many of the states have as many as 3 first class teams (Gujarat, Maharashtra.etc). 

I don't know why you think that having a large no. of sides effects the quality. But I would say it has benefitted us a lot as we are enjoying a larger pool of capable players. This enables the board to search some raw talents and prospects. So far it is going down we as it seems.


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That's something new. Like the way board is thinking of trying to add something new and I really do hope this attracts the crowd. Slow format under the lights...let's see how it goes   Cheesy
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