Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[Juggy777]

Speculation.... NZ vs India

For second test, i have a feeling that team management might go with Shubham Gill as he scored a double ton on same venue recently (against NZ A). If it happens then chances are Prithvi is going to sit out. It would be interesting to see that who gets the opportunity to open with Mayank.

Shubham Gill or Hanuma Vihari ? Hanuma took the bullet last time when he was asked to fit in the similar opening role against the Australia.

@JSRAW I don’t know if there’s any merit in this speculation, but I also feel that team India needs immediate changes as their performance in the first test match was very poor. In my personal opinion Shubham Gill should be selected as he has already scored a double ton on this venue, which means he’s already accustomed to the conditions out there and he’ll perform way better than Hanuman.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Speculation.... NZ vs India

For second test, i have a feeling that team management might go with Shubham Gill as he scored a double ton on same venue recently (against NZ A). If it happens then chances are Prithvi is going to sit out. It would be interesting to see that who gets the opportunity to open with Mayank.

Shubham Gill or Hanuma Vihari ? Hanuma took the bullet last time when he was asked to fit in the similar opening role against the Australia.

Not a big fan of Hanuma Vihari here... so if I need to chose between the two, then I'll go for Shubham Gill. I am not happy with the performance of Hanuma Vihari during the past few months. He seems to have retained his slot in the squad only because the chief selector favors him (MSK Prasad). Gill is an exciting young talent, and he deserves a few outings.

[JSRAW]

Speculation.... NZ vs India

For second test, i have a feeling that team management might go with Shubham Gill as he scored a double ton on same venue recently (against NZ A). If it happens then chances are Prithvi is going to sit out. It would be interesting to see that who gets the opportunity to open with Mayank.

Shubham Gill or Hanuma Vihari ? Hanuma took the bullet last time when he was asked to fit in the similar opening role against the Australia.

Not a big fan of Hanuma Vihari here... so if I need to chose between the two, then I'll go for Shubham Gill. I am not happy with the performance of Hanuma Vihari during the past few months. He seems to have retained his slot in the squad only because the chief selector favors him (MSK Prasad). Gill is an exciting young talent, and he deserves a few outings.

In this scenario i was looking at

-Prithvi (Not Hanuma) to sit out if Shubham Gill plays
-Who should open the inning with Mayank as an opener Gill or Hanuma?

Vishnu i am not sure bhai what are your sources are but i think you need to reconsider your statement of "Chief Selector" or if there are any such thing, then please post here, I might learn something new. Because as far as i know there is no such thing and Hanuma Vihari playing on merits. he played couple of good innings in Oval and Sydney when condition were tough for every batsmen.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Vishnu i am not sure bhai what are your sources are but i think you need to reconsider your statement of "Chief Selector" or if there are any such thing, then please post here, I might learn something new. Because as far as i know there is no such thing and Hanuma Vihari playing on merits. he played couple of good innings in Oval and Sydney when condition were tough for every batsmen.

I don't have any personal enmity against Hanuma Vihari. I was just saying that he was given too many opportunities (similar to Rishabh Pant and Kedar Jadhav), and this was not given for other players such as Karun Nair and Sanju Samson. MSK Prasad is the chairman of the BCCI Senior selection committee, and many of his selections were controversial.

[mersal]

Vishnu i am not sure bhai what are your sources are but i think you need to reconsider your statement of "Chief Selector" or if there are any such thing, then please post here, I might learn something new. Because as far as i know there is no such thing and Hanuma Vihari playing on merits. he played couple of good innings in Oval and Sydney when condition were tough for every batsmen.

I don't have any personal enmity against Hanuma Vihari. I was just saying that he was given too many opportunities (similar to Rishabh Pant and Kedar Jadhav), and this was not given for other players such as Karun Nair and Sanju Samson. MSK Prasad is the chairman of the BCCI Senior selection committee, and many of his selections were controversial.

Indian cricket has always inside politics while selecting the players and I heard people get discriminated if they are not Hindu based religion and will be terminated from the squad completely even many players who faced this openly stated this but I don't want to comment anything about it now.Only people were selected for this series and not enough experience,whoever plays this may not get any advantage because once Rohit and other players comeback into team will take their spots permanently.

[JSRAW]

Vishnu i am not sure bhai what are your sources are but i think you need to reconsider your statement of "Chief Selector" or if there are any such thing, then please post here, I might learn something new. Because as far as i know there is no such thing and Hanuma Vihari playing on merits. he played couple of good innings in Oval and Sydney when condition were tough for every batsmen.

I don't have any personal enmity against Hanuma Vihari. I was just saying that he was given too many opportunities (similar to Rishabh Pant and Kedar Jadhav), and this was not given for other players such as Karun Nair and Sanju Samson. MSK Prasad is the chairman of the BCCI Senior selection committee, and many of his selections were controversial.

Rishab is WK batsman
Kedar Jadav is ODI batsman
Karun Nair is Test Opener ( Long queue for Opening position)
Sanju Samson is ODI and T-20 player
Hanuma vihari is Middle order batsman in Test Match only

I know MSK prasad is lousy selector but honestly I don't even see any connection here.

Indian cricket has always inside politics while selecting the players and I heard people get discriminated if they are not Hindu based religion and will be terminated from the squad completely even many players who faced this openly stated this but I don't want to comment anything about it now.Only people were selected for this series and not enough experience,whoever plays this may not get any advantage because once Rohit and other players comeback into team will take their spots permanently.

With all due respect to your opinion. I can guarantee that you heard it wrong. Indian cricket is good because there is no such thing Hindu-Muslim-Sikh-Christian in Indian team. List is long but Few names stand out to me.

Mansur Ali Khan Pataudi ( Former Indian Captain)
Mohammed Azharuddin ( Former Indian Captain who got banned due to Match-Fixing, people still celebrate him.)
Syed Mustafa Hussain Kirmani ( Decorated WK in Indian history)
Sayed Mustaq Ali ( T-20 league Sayed Mustaq Ali trophy is dedicated to him)
Saba Karim
Zaheer Khan
Mohd Kaif
Irfan Pathan
Yusuf Pathan
Mohammed Shami
Wasim Jaffer ( He's considered legend in the Domestic cricket)

If by any chance you are talking about recent Kashmiri cricketer then let me break it out for you that he got suspended because he faked his birth certificates and he's not alone, 2 other players faced similar suspension and atleast 3-4 cases are pending on similar incident.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Indian cricket has always inside politics while selecting the players and I heard people get discriminated if they are not Hindu based religion and will be terminated from the squad completely even many players who faced this openly stated this but I don't want to comment anything about it now.Only people were selected for this series and not enough experience,whoever plays this may not get any advantage because once Rohit and other players comeback into team will take their spots permanently.

Here I have to disagree with you. If there was any discrimination, it was based on regional basis. There was never any discrimination based on religion. If that was the case, then Mohammed Azharuddin would have never captained India. He later went on to become a parliamentarian (despite being charged for match fixing). Indians are proud of their home states, and usually they have a soft corner for individuals from their region. But this has nothing to do with religion.

[erikalui]

Anyone's betting on India in the second test?

I haven't read about there being any change in the team till now and believe that the new ground is good for batsmen. I feel again we'll get to see the same fate as NZ are too strong in their home land and Indians are playing carelessly.

[mersal]

Wasim Jaffer ( He's considered legend in the Domestic cricket)

Even though he is legendary player on Domestic level he didn't get enough chances to play for Indian ODI side to be honest.But lets keep the religious talk aside.

[Indymoney]

Wasim Jaffer ( He's considered legend in the Domestic cricket)

Even though he is legendary player on Domestic level he didn't get enough chances to play for Indian ODI side to be honest.But lets keep the religious talk aside.

This case is just about his style or any other its happen with many players around the world as in Pakistan we have Zahid Fazal he was legend in domestic but fail in International level as I also have some good names in English counties and many other local players they was very good in domestic but completely fail in International level because fail to handle pressure.

[7788bitcoin]

With the return of Neil Wagner, New-Zealand bowling attack has become stronger again. Another obstacle awaits for India.
Let's see how effective Neil Wagner can play in the field.

The combination of Tim Southee and Trent Boult were more than enough to trouble India and with Neil Wagner coming back into the team it will be a really difficult battle for India to come back into the series, India dominated New Zealand in the T20 series but they were able to return the favors in the ODI and continuing the same in the Test series and India is struggling as their batsman are not performing as expected.

[BitSat19]

With the return of Neil Wagner, New-Zealand bowling attack has become stronger again. Another obstacle awaits for India.
Let's see how effective Neil Wagner can play in the field.

The combination of Tim Southee and Trent Boult were more than enough to trouble India and with Neil Wagner coming back into the team it will be a really difficult battle for India to come back into the series, India dominated New Zealand in the T20 series but they were able to return the favors in the ODI and continuing the same in the Test series and India is struggling as their batsman are not performing as expected.

Test result is really shocking and I am not sure as they are still able to handle things better because still have no idea about batting line up and Kohli is also out of touch so its very difficult for India to fight back they need to rethink about their future plans for test players because currently they are doing this all just for twenty/20 world cup.

[eaLiTy]

For second test, i have a feeling that team management might go with Shubham Gill as he scored a double ton on same venue recently (against NZ A). If it happens then chances are Prithvi is going to sit out. It would be interesting to see that who gets the opportunity to open with Mayank.

There were reports that Shubham Gill will replace Prithvi Shaw in the match and the reason behind that is because Prithvi Shaw was not seen practicing in the nets by some reports and Ravindra Jadeja might return to the playing eleven replacing Ashwin and the biggest issue India is facing is the sudden dip in form for Virat Kohli as he is not firing for India for a few innings which is rare considering his constistancy.
 

[JSRAW]

Wasim Jaffer ( He's considered legend in the Domestic cricket)

Even though he is legendary player on Domestic level he didn't get enough chances to play for Indian ODI side to be honest.

Meriting you just for being a good sport

He was not ODI material for starter but Pujara kind of batsmen, so he featured in Test Format only. He belongs to same era as Gautam-Sehwag-Dravid Sachin-Ganguly-Laxman-Yuvraj. so its no brainer why he missed out the opportunity for longer time of period, It was tough competition for any batsman and many batsmen missed out the opportunity due to this combination. He was beautiful to watch but sadly didn't made expected impact especially in SENA countries except couple of gritty inning and dropped for good, You can say that he got overshadowed by all big names every single time.

Anyone's betting on India in the second test?

I haven't read about there being any change in the team till now and believe that the new ground is good for batsmen. I feel again we'll get to see the same fate as NZ are too strong in their home land and Indians are playing carelessly.

I was looking at some stat of this ground (Hagley Oval, Christchurch) and things are not looking good for India as NZ have good record in this ground. they won 4 games, Lost 1 and 1 draw here.

Overall, Its seems Flat wicket according to previous matches. Except First day of Test or 2 first session, tricky conditions for batting side as there is good amount of grass at the pitch, so toss is crucial again. Its Trent Boult fav ground and almost every kiwis batsmen has a very healthy average here.

Will wait for toss before putting money on result but already put some money on Virat's 100.

There were reports that Shubham Gill will replace Prithvi Shaw in the match and the reason behind that is because Prithvi Shaw was not seen practicing in the nets by some reports

Any specific reason like he got injured or simply dropped due to bad batting in first test?
Edit

Update on pitch and team.
- Ravi Shastri gave statement that Prithvi Shaw playing.
- Confusion on Jadeja and Ashwin
- Ishant Sharma ankle's injury giving him hard time.

See pitch and make up your mind : https://twitter.com/beastieboy07/status/1233197112298311681?s=19

[mersal]

Update on pitch and team.
- Ravi Shastri gave statement that Prithvi Shaw playing.
- Confusion on Jadeja and Ashwin
- Ishant Sharma ankle's injury giving him hard time.

See pitch and make up your mind : https://twitter.com/beastieboy07/status/1233197112298311681?s=19

It seems both teams will be looking to bat first if they win the toss on match 2 based on stats because highest ever run chased on that ground in the last innings was 201 so one who bat first get better opportunities.

[erikalui]

@JSRAW: Yeah, NZ has been able to defeat India earlier as well in Christchurch and plus we will miss Sharma who is out because of his injury and Yadav replaces him.

"We are not bothered about another loss but we are not going to take a backward step, that's for sure," captain Virat Kohli had said after India suffered their first defeat, a resounding one, in the World Test Championship in Wellington.

Don't like him when he makes such statements. Why talking about losing before playing the match? He's like sure he's going to lose another one and doesn't trust his team now.

[pakhitheboss]

@JSRAW: Yeah, NZ has been able to defeat India earlier as well in Christchurch and plus we will miss Sharma who is out because of his injury and Yadav replaces him.

"We are not bothered about another loss but we are not going to take a backward step, that's for sure," captain Virat Kohli had said after India suffered their first defeat, a resounding one, in the World Test Championship in Wellington.

Don't like him when he makes such statements. Why talking about losing before playing the match? He's like sure he's going to lose another one and doesn't trust his team now.

I know the outcome of the next test match will be the same as it was for the previous one. I have lost all hopes and I will skip this test match. I do not know what is wrong with the Indian team?

The captain and the manager need to rethink their strategy as things need to change for good.

[eaLiTy]

The captain and the manager need to rethink their strategy as things need to change for good.

There will be changes in the team some because of injury and some because of their lack of performance but it is hard to see India winning the match against New Zealand because the wicket will help the fast bowlers and with the batsman struggling in the first match i do not see any difference in this match unless someone steps up their game and India might even go for an all out fast bowling unit, not sure what the coach and the captain will be planning to execute but it will be a tough challenge for India.

[erikalui]

I know the outcome of the next test match will be the same as it was for the previous one. I have lost all hopes and I will skip this test match. I do not know what is wrong with the Indian team?

The captain and the manager need to rethink their strategy as things need to change for good.

I also feel they will lose and hence will mostly follow highlights after the match. They are not even putting up a good defense and plus Virat's IVs make it seem the match result is clear for him too and he's barely talking about his own form. 

The other matches with SA are in India so am now going to have hopes only when they play in India and then IPL will be a break from this series loss.

[mersal]

The captain and the manager need to rethink their strategy as things need to change for good.

There will be changes in the team some because of injury and some because of their lack of performance but it is hard to see India winning the match against New Zealand because the wicket will help the fast bowlers and with the batsman struggling in the first match i do not see any difference in this match unless someone steps up their game and India might even go for an all out fast bowling unit, not sure what the coach and the captain will be planning to execute but it will be a tough challenge for India.

There is no sign of Ishant in the net sessions so it seems he will be replaced with Yadav or Navdeep Saini and I wanted saha to replace Pant to give some stability in the middle order which can boost some confidence to tailenders to bring partnerships if there is in need of it.And Prithvi Shaw might be playing since he practicing on the nets so probable playing XI for team India can be predicted by now.