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[Rustam Meraj]

2nd ODI between Pakistan and South Africa yesterday in Faisalabad was easy win by South Africa by 8 wickets to make series at 1-1. Pakistan batted first, and faced problems early, but with half centuries by Salman Ali Agha and Saim Ayub, it recovered to make 269/9, but was stopped by fast bowler Nandre Burger on four key wickets. South Africa was easily chasing, having reached 270/2 with complete century 123 runs by Quinton de Kock who was chosen Player of Match and had a big partnership with Tony de Zorzi, which started exciting final game on Saturday.

[Sithara007]

2nd ODI between Pakistan and South Africa yesterday in Faisalabad was easy win by South Africa by 8 wickets to make series at 1-1. Pakistan batted first, and faced problems early, but with half centuries by Salman Ali Agha and Saim Ayub, it recovered to make 269/9, but was stopped by fast bowler Nandre Burger on four key wickets. South Africa was easily chasing, having reached 270/2 with complete century 123 runs by Quinton de Kock who was chosen Player of Match and had a big partnership with Tony de Zorzi, which started exciting final game on Saturday.

LOL.. Pakistan had a rare chance to score a series win against South Africa. And looks like they are wasting that opportunity. On the other hand, South Africa is doing exceptionally well, ever since they put aside their crazy transformation quota targets. Nandre Burger and Corbin Bosch performed really well with the new ball, and then it was left to Quinton de Kock and Tony de Zorzi to chase down the runs. BTW, I just noticed that Matthew Breetzke captained South Africa for this match. At the moment, he is having a ODI batting average of 75.14.

[cozytrade]

Pakistan vs South Africa, 2nd ODI match South Africa team won the match by 8 wickets. Pakistan team could not do anything good in the match. I thought Pakistan team would win this match but bowling line and batting line performed badly due to which Pakistan team could not win this match.

[laspol65]

Pakistan vs South Africa, 2nd ODI match South Africa team won the match by 8 wickets. Pakistan team could not do anything good in the match. I thought Pakistan team would win this match but bowling line and batting line performed badly due to which Pakistan team could not win this match.

Do you know that Pakistan team could not create any pressure from bowling side, as a result Pakistan team players had to accept this defeat. The bowling performance was worse than the bad performance of Pakistan team batting line. South Africa team player de Kock he fought alone till the end, here Pakistan team should have aimed to get de Kock out.
But Pakistan team failed here they could not fall more wickets, on the other hand South Africa team players were able to win by creating partnership and protecting wickets for a long time.

[Bd officer]

2nd ODI between Pakistan and South Africa yesterday in Faisalabad was easy win by South Africa by 8 wickets to make series at 1-1. Pakistan batted first, and faced problems early, but with half centuries by Salman Ali Agha and Saim Ayub, it recovered to make 269/9, but was stopped by fast bowler Nandre Burger on four key wickets. South Africa was easily chasing, having reached 270/2 with complete century 123 runs by Quinton de Kock who was chosen Player of Match and had a big partnership with Tony de Zorzi, which started exciting final game on Saturday.

If Pakistan's top order had performed well, Pakistan could have scored more runs, Fakhar Zaman and Mohammad Rizan and Babar Azam were dismissed quickly due to which Pakistan came under pressure and were restricted to 269 runs. However, Pakistan's bowling line was also not good enough, as Pakistan's bowlers could not put pressure on the South African batsmen. South Africa's opening batsman Quinton de Kock could not do well in the T20 series but performed well in the first two matches of the ODI series, which is very commendable. However, every batsman in South Africa's top order did well which is why South Africa chased the target easily. Yes, the 3rd and final match will be more interesting.

[Fuso.hp]

2nd ODI between Pakistan and South Africa yesterday in Faisalabad was easy win by South Africa by 8 wickets to make series at 1-1. Pakistan batted first, and faced problems early, but with half centuries by Salman Ali Agha and Saim Ayub, it recovered to make 269/9, but was stopped by fast bowler Nandre Burger on four key wickets. South Africa was easily chasing, having reached 270/2 with complete century 123 runs by Quinton de Kock who was chosen Player of Match and had a big partnership with Tony de Zorzi, which started exciting final game on Saturday.

The target of 270 runs was a very easy target for South Africa and they reached this target in just 40 overs and they lost only two wickets to reach this target. At the beginning of the first innings, it seemed that Pakistan might be all out quickly but later Pakistan batted patiently and finally scored 269 runs on the scoreboard. Quinton de Kock, who returned to international cricket, performed brilliantly and scored a brilliant century in the second ODI match. It was important for South Africa to win this match as the third match was going to be a tough contest and in the end South Africa secured it by a big margin. Now our focus will be on the third ODI match. South Africa, having performed well in the second match, will be confident and there is a possibility of South Africa winning the third ODI match as well.

[As-Soon-As]

[ Now our focus will be on the third ODI match. South Africa, having performed well in the second match, will be confident and there is a possibility of South Africa winning the third ODI match as well.

Just by seeing the victory of this second ODI match, you should not push the third match victory towards South Africa, because in the third match, Pakistan team can generate enough strength. Since this match will be held in Pakistan team's home ground, every team in home ground will be able to compete toughly with strong teams.
So I think Pakistan team will be able to perform well in the third ODI match, because South Africa team lost T20 series to Pakistan team. So I think Pakistan team will accumulate strength to win ODI series in their home ground.

[noormcs5]

Tomorrow is going to be the second one day match between South Africa and Pakistan, I think this match surely to win by the team Pakistan especially if they again bowl first like the previous matches of this series. Pakistan bowlers, spinners and pacers are really magical. Naseem Shah , disciplined bowling never comes under pressure. He did not lose his line and length no matter how the batsmen are playing it and not depending on the field set while spinner to take early wickets and Shaheen Shah is most good when it comes to middle overs and death overs of the innings.

Fist match Salman Ali Agha and Muhammad Rizwan both played an huge role in giving the momentum back to the team of Pakistan as Saim Ayub and Fakhar Zaman provided with an outstanding start for the Pakistan team. They played a long partnership but Fakhar played a wrong short and he got out. Babar come to the wicket as usual with his amazing cover drive but then got out on 7 and Saim Ayub that time pressure was on Muhammad Rizwan batting at 3 and Agha just arrived, both once were the captain of the team and Salman is current in T20 format so knew how to steady the condition. However South Africa come back strongly in the 2nd game and the series is level 1-1.

[Minor Miner]

Fist match Salman Ali Agha and Muhammad Rizwan both played an huge role in giving the momentum back to the team of Pakistan as Saim Ayub and Fakhar Zaman provided with an outstanding start for the Pakistan team. They played a long partnership but Fakhar played a wrong short and he got out. Babar come to the wicket as usual with his amazing cover drive but then got out on 7 and Saim Ayub that time pressure was on Muhammad Rizwan batting at 3 and Agha just arrived, both once were the captain of the team and Salman is current in T20 format so knew how to steady the condition. However South Africa come back strongly in the 2nd game and the series is level 1-1.

Despite losing three wickets for just 22 runs, Pakistan managed to collect 269 which is their big achievement. Babar azam, Rizwan and Fakhar Zaman batted very badly. After such a failure of the top order it was very difficult to collect big. The pitch was batting friendly. It was difficult to win by giving a target of less than 300. Also we have not seen better bowling from Pakshikhani bowlers.

South Africa reached the target of victory with the loss of just 2 wickets. South Africa collect 270 for 4.1. Quinton de Kock played the most important innings. This African batsman was unbeaten by collecting 123 runs. Besides, we have seen better batting from de Zorzi and Pretorius.

[virasog]

2nd ODI between Pakistan and South Africa yesterday in Faisalabad was easy win by South Africa by 8 wickets to make series at 1-1. Pakistan batted first, and faced problems early, but with half centuries by Salman Ali Agha and Saim Ayub, it recovered to make 269/9, but was stopped by fast bowler Nandre Burger on four key wickets. South Africa was easily chasing, having reached 270/2 with complete century 123 runs by Quinton de Kock who was chosen Player of Match and had a big partnership with Tony de Zorzi, which started exciting final game on Saturday.

South Africa won the second game at the Faisalabad, it could be an easy win for the team Pakistan if they would have good bowling attack that some how Pakistan scored an average target of 269 runs, the way Pakistan was playing in the power play of their innings, the first 10 overs they truly played the worst game ever that Babar Azam, Fakhar Zaman got out early on duck. That is why it could be considered a good thing that at least Pakistan reached to that total. And the second thing is they had to bowl good which they failed. They could only take two wickets of the South African team.

[noormcs5]

South Africa won the second game at the Faisalabad, it could be an easy win for the team Pakistan if they would have good bowling attack that some how Pakistan scored an average target of 269 runs, the way Pakistan was playing in the power play of their innings, the first 10 overs they truly played the worst game ever that Babar Azam, Fakhar Zaman got out early on duck. That is why it could be considered a good thing that at least Pakistan reached to that total. And the second thing is they had to bowl good which they failed. They could only take two wickets of the South African team.

Mohammad Wasim is finally back in the team. He was the part of the squad in almost every important or any kind of series but never got the chance of playing, however yesterday he got the chance to showcase his skills and did not disappoint as he got the first wicket for the team when every good bowler was being punished for runs. He was bowling with the ECON of 6.00, I think he truly deserves to be a part of the playing 11 in the next game too. And let's see who wins the next very important game as that will decide the series.

[WatChe]

Mohammad Wasim is finally back in the team. He was the part of the squad in almost every important or any kind of series but never got the chance of playing, however yesterday he got the chance to showcase his skills and did not disappoint as he got the first wicket for the team when every good bowler was being punished for runs. He was bowling with the ECON of 6.00, I think he truly deserves to be a part of the playing 11 in the next game too. And let's see who wins the next very important game as that will decide the series.

Muhammad Wasim is a good bowler, he need more chances like Faheem Ashraf. In second ODI, Pakistan tried eight different bowlers but they were able to pick just two wickets only. Babar Azam is very much disappointed after second ODI because of his failure to regain his form. It's high time for him to take break from International cricket, play domestic cricket and return with a big impact. If Babar Azam continue giving such performance then very soon he will be permanently axed from the team. Third ODI will be played tomorrow and winner will win this series.     

[N.O]

2nd ODI between Pakistan and South Africa yesterday in Faisalabad was easy win by South Africa by 8 wickets to make series at 1-1. Pakistan batted first, and faced problems early, but with half centuries by Salman Ali Agha and Saim Ayub, it recovered to make 269/9, but was stopped by fast bowler Nandre Burger on four key wickets. South Africa was easily chasing, having reached 270/2 with complete century 123 runs by Quinton de Kock who was chosen Player of Match and had a big partnership with Tony de Zorzi, which started exciting final game on Saturday.

South Africa team is a strong team and they played amazing game and won. South Africa team won the game by 8 wickets and 59 balls. Pakistan set a record total runs for 269 and lost the match. South Africa team played a good match their performance was very impressive and chased a record runs for 270. Hope SA will continue to play well in the future. They seem to be in a great form this tournament and playing exceptionally good. The 2nd match between SA and Pakistan was played at Iqbal Stadium. Pakistan won the toss and elected to batting first. The good batting performance in SA team was by Quinton de Kock scored 123 runs and 119 balls hitting 8 fours and 7 sixs. Congratulations to SA for their upcoming matches.

[virasog]

Muhammad Wasim is a good bowler, he need more chances like Faheem Ashraf. In second ODI, Pakistan tried eight different bowlers but they were able to pick just two wickets only. Babar Azam is very much disappointed after second ODI because of his failure to regain his form. It's high time for him to take break from International cricket, play domestic cricket and return with a big impact. If Babar Azam continue giving such performance then very soon he will be permanently axed from the team. Third ODI will be played tomorrow and winner will win this series.     

Also, Saim Ayub is making his good impact in the game as well as Salman Ali Agha. In this one day series and also in the T20 series, Salman Ali Agha is really helping the team by playing under pressure and also scoring fifties.

Tomorrow will be the final game and it will be the end of the long series. The first match of this series was on 12th October and is now about to finish. If we talk about it from the start, the first test game was won by Pakistan and the second by South Africa. In the test, it was 1 - 1. Later in T20, it was 2 for Pakistan and 1 for South Africa. Now tomorrow's game will decide who will win the one-day series.

[Nanga Parbat]

Also, Saim Ayub is making his good impact in the game as well as Salman Ali Agha. In this one day series and also in the T20 series, Salman Ali Agha is really helping the team by playing under pressure and also scoring fifties.

Tomorrow will be the final game and it will be the end of the long series. The first match of this series was on 12th October and is now about to finish. If we talk about it from the start, the first test game was won by Pakistan and the second by South Africa. In the test, it was 1 - 1. Later in T20, it was 2 for Pakistan and 1 for South Africa. Now tomorrow's game will decide who will win the one-day series.

Both these batsmen play well but they do not reach the point where they can victory. Their hard work and determination is enough because they have also victory the T20 series and they have also victory 1 match in the ODI series and if they victory this last match too, they will achieve a very good success. They were playing for the victory of their team by putting in a lot of hard work and efforts but due to some carelessness they are out with control so they will lose in the second match while they could have victory the match. I hope that if these batsmen play well in this match then Pakistan can victory enough easily. There will be a lot of interest in this match and they are very eager to see Pakistan victory so the match is also enough impressive for us.

[UmerIdrees]

Both these batsmen play well but they do not reach the point where they can victory. Their hard work and determination is enough because they have also victory the T20 series and they have also victory 1 match in the ODI series and if they victory this last match too, they will achieve a very good success. They were playing for the victory of their team by putting in a lot of hard work and efforts but due to some carelessness they are out with control so they will lose in the second match while they could have victory the match. I hope that if these batsmen play well in this match then Pakistan can victory enough easily. There will be a lot of interest in this match and they are very eager to see Pakistan victory so the match is also enough impressive for us.

In the last and final match, Pakistan has to bowl first because when they bowl first, the scenario is always different. Pakistan was bowling first in every match until the second ODI, and Pakistan were almost winning all the games and dominating the series. But at the same time, if you think for the long term that it is about luck who wins the toss. It is based on luck, not on skills that is to win the toss. Pakistan should be prepared for everything. Also, Fakhar Zaman and Saim Ayub have to make long partnerships and do not lose wickets early.

[Alex077]

In the last and final match, Pakistan has to bowl first because when they bowl first, the scenario is always different. Pakistan was bowling first in every match until the second ODI, and Pakistan were almost winning all the games and dominating the series. But at the same time, if you think for the long term that it is about luck who wins the toss. It is based on luck, not on skills that is to win the toss. Pakistan should be prepared for everything. Also, Fakhar Zaman and Saim Ayub have to make long partnerships and do not lose wickets early.

Yes, I agree with your reasoning. Pakistan perform really well on days when they bowl early ,,  it gives the bowlers an opportunity to keep the tempo of the game from the start. However, as you said, the toss is really a matter of luck. Relying on this mentality alone can sometimes backfire on them. Whatever it is, they should be ready to adapt.

yeah, it is very important to build a strong partnership for Fakhar and Saim. If they have trouble batting early, then a lot of pressure will be put on the middle order batsmen. I think Pakistan's main strength is their pace attack. Even if they bat early, they should use the bowlers effectively and take advantage with confidence. This will be the right strategy for them

[hafiztalha]

2nd ODI between Pakistan and South Africa yesterday in Faisalabad was easy win by South Africa by 8 wickets to make series at 1-1. Pakistan batted first, and faced problems early, but with half centuries by Salman Ali Agha and Saim Ayub, it recovered to make 269/9, but was stopped by fast bowler Nandre Burger on four key wickets. South Africa was easily chasing, having reached 270/2 with complete century 123 runs by Quinton de Kock who was chosen Player of Match and had a big partnership with Tony de Zorzi, which started exciting final game on Saturday.

In 2nd ODI game of South Africa and Pakistan series, South Africa team easily beated Pakistan team in this game and this game was played at Iqbal Stadium. South Africa team bounced back in series by big win and 1 st ODI game, South Africa team lost by close margin. Pakistan team set 269 runs target in 50 overs by losing 9 wickets. Saim effort in this game was brilliant in opening and he made half century 53 runs in 66 balls and hitted five 4s and one 6s. Few more batsmen of Pakistan team showed brilliant effort like Agha and Nawaz and both made 59 runs and 69 runs. South Africa team chased down target very easily and all runs were completed by 8 wickets and 10 overs. Kock made brilliant century total 123 runs in 119 balls and hitted eight 4s and seven 6s.

[Zaka1221]

2nd ODI between Pakistan and South Africa yesterday in Faisalabad was easy win by South Africa by 8 wickets to make series at 1-1. Pakistan batted first, and faced problems early, but with half centuries by Salman Ali Agha and Saim Ayub, it recovered to make 269/9, but was stopped by fast bowler Nandre Burger on four key wickets. South Africa was easily chasing, having reached 270/2 with complete century 123 runs by Quinton de Kock who was chosen Player of Match and had a big partnership with Tony de Zorzi, which started exciting final game on Saturday.

The target of 270 runs was a very easy target for South Africa and they reached this target in just 40 overs and they lost only two wickets to reach this target. At the beginning of the first innings, it seemed that Pakistan might be all out quickly but later Pakistan batted patiently and finally scored 269 runs on the scoreboard. Quinton de Kock, who returned to international cricket, performed brilliantly and scored a brilliant century in the second ODI match. It was important for South Africa to win this match as the third match was going to be a tough contest and in the end South Africa secured it by a big margin. Now our focus will be on the third ODI match. South Africa, having performed well in the second match, will be confident and there is a possibility of South Africa winning the third ODI match as well.

This second ODI match between Pakistan and South Africa was played in Faisalabad. In this match Pakistan was given the opportunity to bat first in which they scored 269 run. Saim Ayub who scored a brilliant innings of 53 run, did not perform well in this match, due to which they lost the match. Salman Agha also scored 69, but all their hard work was wasted because the South African team not only won the match, but also gave them a resounding reply because only two of their players were out and this target was completed. Quinton de Kock, who is the player of the match, scored 123 run and was not out which included seven sixes and eight four. Tony de Zorzi also performed well. He was out for 73 run but still won the match with 58 ball remaining.

[Unknown Op]

Pakistan vs South Africa, 2nd ODI match South Africa team won the match by 8 wickets. Pakistan team could not do anything good in the match. I thought Pakistan team would win this match but bowling line and batting line performed badly due to which Pakistan team could not win this match.

Do you know that Pakistan team could not create any pressure from bowling side, as a result Pakistan team players had to accept this defeat. The bowling performance was worse than the bad performance of Pakistan team batting line. South Africa team player de Kock he fought alone till the end, here Pakistan team should have aimed to get de Kock out.
But Pakistan team failed here they could not fall more wickets, on the other hand South Africa team players were able to win by creating partnership and protecting wickets for a long time.

I think Pakistan squad became overconfident after winning first match and they took South Africa squad lightly. Because of that, they had faced big defeat on their home ground. Even first match was supposed to be an easy victory but they won this match with very small margin and with difficulty. In second match,  Pakistan squad was begun match first with batting inning and batters were managed to collect 269 scores after playing 9 batter wickets. Nqabayomzi Peter and Nandre Burger both built good pressure to Pakistan squad and both played crucial role in victory and picked 3 and 4 wickets respectively. Quinton de Kock inning was fantastic and he played wonderful inning with brilliant shots and he collected 123 scores after playing 119 deliveries. South Africa batters succeeded to defeat Pakistan squad in second one day format match.