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June 20, 2021, 05:18:03 PM
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Can't wait for tomorrow's match against SoKor. Want to see Gilas giving a definition of what's the "lucky shot" is supposed to be. Smiley
The game is on and as of checking it right now, it's Q2 and the score is close to each other. Ph 32 - SK 31. I've looked for some streams on YT but to no avail. If you guys want to watch it right now and you're not on television, just search for some streams on FB. Some pages are streaming the game and it's all up to you if you're going to support those streams. For me, I just want to watch the game.
I'll update this post later once the game ended and I wish that Gilas will still win this rematch and it's going to be clean!
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Gilas won.  Cool
I was not able to watch the game, I was busy today but I'm happy that the Philippines have won twice against the South Korea team. It's not luck anymore, what we witnessed is their real skills, they are just underestimated and South Korea might have regret when they said Philippines only won by luck.
Yes, it's no longer luck or a miraculous shot that has won the Gilas. And there's also news that I've read lately that South Korea's coach didn't think that PH and SKor isn't a rival. It's known that many of the netizens and fans think that they're rivals but the coach said that it's not. Well, that's what he thinks personally and we have to respect whatever he's saying about this matter although it's not really a big matter to talk about probably it had caught his attention and he also said that he gets a lot of learnings having a match against Gilas.
(https://tv5.espn.com/basketball/gilas/story/_/id/31673180/personally-think-philippines-rival)

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June 20, 2021, 09:00:07 PM
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I was not able to watch the game, I was busy today but I'm happy that the Philippines have won twice against the South Korea team. It's not luck anymore, what we witnessed is their real skills, they are just underestimated and South Korea might have regret when they said Philippines only won by luck.

This batch of Gilas cadets has a very bright future in terms of representing the Philippines in the FIBA competition. Personally, I was thinking that their first win against South Korea is a mix of talent and luck hehe.

If I'm not wrong this batch of cadets has the highest height average and most of them are athletic enough to defend the Koreans bombardment in the three-point area.

And we should not also forgot the coaching staff who orchestrated all the plays that made this win possible, especially to coach Tab Baldwin.

Definitely, we can't discount their coaching staff's effort.

These young talents will not succeed without a good coach, and coach Tab seemed to have work with some of the players before so they already know them despite a short period of time preparing for this competition. Also, the presence of Sotto is really big, I would not anymore say he is overrated as he is protecting the paint, grabbing those rebounds, and do some dunks which we barely see with our old guys' lineup.

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June 20, 2021, 09:14:06 PM
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I was not able to watch the game, I was busy today but I'm happy that the Philippines have won twice against the South Korea team. It's not luck anymore, what we witnessed is their real skills, they are just underestimated and South Korea might have regret when they said Philippines only won by luck.

This batch of Gilas cadets has a very bright future in terms of representing the Philippines in the FIBA competition. Personally, I was thinking that their first win against South Korea is a mix of talent and luck hehe.

If I'm not wrong this batch of cadets has the highest height average and most of them are athletic enough to defend the Koreans bombardment in the three-point area.

And we should not also forgot the coaching staff who orchestrated all the plays that made this win possible, especially to coach Tab Baldwin.

Definitely, we can't discount their coaching staff's effort.

These young talents will not succeed without a good coach, and coach Tab seemed to have work with some of the players before so they already know them despite a short period of time preparing for this competition. Also, the presence of Sotto is really big, I would not anymore say he is overrated as he is protecting the paint, grabbing those rebounds, and do some dunks which we barely see with our old guys' lineup.

So what will happen now? Are we still going to see a game of Gilas, I can't follow the schedule, I am a littl confuse with the rules of this competition.
I'm just looking at here http://www.fiba.basketball/asiacup/2021/qualifiers, I don't know what's next.

Anyone here who are well versed with this, please explain.  Grin

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June 21, 2021, 12:36:13 AM
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Definitely, we can't discount their coaching staff's effort.
I remember him coaching Terrence Romeo and how that young Man brings pride to our Gilas internationally. Coach is important to guide young players to compete.

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These young talents will not succeed without a good coach, and coach Tab seemed to have work with some of the players before so they already know them despite a short period of time preparing for this competition.
They understand him and he gave them the types of game that the players can easily to follow, he's mentorship give this young cadets a good guidelines to pursue and win with a pride.

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Also, the presence of Sotto is really big, I would not anymore say he is overrated as he is protecting the paint, grabbing those rebounds, and do some dunks which we barely see with our old guys' lineup.
I was amazed how this young tin boy turned into this kind of a player, he's helping a lot inside and the opposing team really feel his presence each time he's playing, he have a huge future ahead if he won't get any major injuries, Hoping for more appearances from him even new stars will play along side with him, let see how far this gilas cadets will push thru..
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June 21, 2021, 01:37:14 PM
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Definitely, we can't discount their coaching staff's effort.
I remember him coaching Terrence Romeo and how that young Man brings pride to our Gilas internationally. Coach is important to guide young players to compete.


Who would forget that? It's the best moment for the Gilas Pilipinas to qualify in the FIBA world and showcase the world their talent. Terrence was very popular at that time, he has the talent, and coach Tab just helps him to maximize it. We are not seeing a player like Romeo in the current roster, but they are playing with good teamwork that's why they are still undefeated until now.

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June 21, 2021, 06:26:19 PM
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Who would forget that? It's the best moment for the Gilas Pilipinas to qualify in the FIBA world and showcase the world their talent. Terrence was very popular at that time, he has the talent, and coach Tab just helps him to maximize it. We are not seeing a player like Romeo in the current roster, but they are playing with good teamwork that's why they are still undefeated until now.

Though there's no Romeo there inside the roster but the heart that coach Tab developed inside Romeo are there from each cadets who are willing to do everything to win each games,

Representing the Nationals and bringing good name for the country, it's every players wish giving the some chance and privilege.

This current lineup shows dedications, they are doing all their best not to waste this great opportunities to create names on their own not only here but internationally.

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June 21, 2021, 08:30:59 PM
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Who would forget that? It's the best moment for the Gilas Pilipinas to qualify in the FIBA world and showcase the world their talent. Terrence was very popular at that time, he has the talent, and coach Tab just helps him to maximize it. We are not seeing a player like Romeo in the current roster, but they are playing with good teamwork that's why they are still undefeated until now.

Though there's no Romeo there inside the roster but the heart that coach Tab developed inside Romeo are there from each cadets who are willing to do everything to win each games,

Representing the Nationals and bringing good name for the country, it's every players wish giving the some chance and privilege.

This current lineup shows dedications, they are doing all their best not to waste this great opportunities to create names on their own not only here but internationally.

The Philippines is not expected to win all the way, but beating a good team like SoKOR is already a great achievement as they have been beating us before. We send a team that is not even popular, not mature enough, or has a big experience in international games, but here we are now, we are winning and proving to the world the Basketball in the Philippines keeps improving.

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June 21, 2021, 09:24:41 PM
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.. but here we are now, we are winning and proving to the world the Basketball in the Philippines keeps improving.

Actually, the world already recognized PH basketball as continuously improving. The presence of the Philippines on FIBA World is a big achievement for a South East Asian Country. PH is considered the strongest team in South East Asia for years and battling up against countries in North Asia (e.g Japan, S. Korea, China) is an advanced level that's why whenever PH beats these countries, it was widespread news.

The squad is still young but already showing some impressive performances. The future of the PH basketball team is now already in good hands.

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June 21, 2021, 09:50:29 PM
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We are not seeing a player like Romeo in the current roster,

Because they are still young. Give them at least 2-3 years and we should see a Romeo-Caliber type.

But what I'm more interested in is to have Gilas a caliber player type of plays as Jimmy Alapag, Jason Castro, and Ranidel de Ocampo. These guys are my Top 3 players in the history of the Philippine Team. A product of TNT Katropa under Chot Reyes.
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June 21, 2021, 10:02:53 PM
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The Philippines is not expected to win all the way, but beating a good team like SoKOR is already a great achievement as they have been beating us before. We send a team that is not even popular, not mature enough, or has a big experience in international games, but here we are now, we are winning and proving to the world the Basketball in the Philippines keeps improving.

Indeed, a win against South Korea is already a great achievement for these young fellows and they did not do it once but twice, that is not a fluke.

These cadets would have a difficult time if they face teams like Iran or Australia and I don't expect them to win against those teams I've mentioned but they are already deserving to be in the final roster with their performance against SoKor, though this is not possible as we all know that the final roster would have some veterans in it and possibly an NBA star in Jordan Clarkson.
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The Philippines is not expected to win all the way, but beating a good team like SoKOR is already a great achievement as they have been beating us before. We send a team that is not even popular, not mature enough, or has a big experience in international games, but here we are now, we are winning and proving to the world the Basketball in the Philippines keeps improving.

These cadets would have a difficult time if they face teams like Iran or Australia and I don't expect them to win against those teams I've mentioned but they are already deserving to be in the final roster with their performance against SoKor, though this is not possible as we all know that the final roster would have some veterans in it and possibly an NBA star in Jordan Clarkson.

This current gilas line up is a lit, they are strong if you lool at how the ball rotates on their hands we can that they are solid compare to the past gilas roosters. They have great chances to compete with those teams you meantioned but for now let their battle between the qualifier round will be the indicator how ready they are in the world stage.

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June 21, 2021, 11:34:48 PM
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as we all know that the final roster would have some veterans in it and possibly an NBA star in Jordan Clarkson.

Agree and the Philippines should do everything to make it happen as we really need a player like him. In the final roster, I also expect some PBA veterans to play as their experience will help the young cores. PH also needs help from our naturalized players if ever we pass the qualifiers. We have lots of naturalized players standing almost at 7 footers.

Coach Tab also knows already how to rotate these players so blending it with the young cores shouldn't be a problem.

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June 22, 2021, 12:42:42 PM
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  Basketball: Gilas faces China in tune up for FIBA OQT

What do you think, will the Philippines beat China in this game?

Since this is just a tune-up game, they might not take it seriously, but we will see how the Philippines will play against one of the best teams in the FIBA Asia qualifiers.
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The Philippines is not expected to win all the way, but beating a good team like SoKOR is already a great achievement as they have been beating us before. We send a team that is not even popular, not mature enough, or has a big experience in international games, but here we are now, we are winning and proving to the world the Basketball in the Philippines keeps improving.

Indeed, a win against South Korea is already a great achievement for these young fellows and they did not do it once but twice, that is not a fluke.

These cadets would have a difficult time if they face teams like Iran or Australia and I don't expect them to win against those teams I've mentioned but they are already deserving to be in the final roster with their performance against SoKor, though this is not possible as we all know that the final roster would have some veterans in it and possibly an NBA star in Jordan Clarkson.
I think that they have learned a lot from the previous roster, and have watched the tape, going to that game, still a young team but already, proving a lot that they can do it, Clarkson is still not clear I think, as he still needs approval from the jazz, but we still hope he can play under our flag, and bring glory to the Filipino people.

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June 22, 2021, 02:04:40 PM
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as we all know that the final roster would have some veterans in it and possibly an NBA star in Jordan Clarkson.

Agree and the Philippines should do everything to make it happen as we really need a player like him. In the final roster, I also expect some PBA veterans to play as their experience will help the young cores. PH also needs help from our naturalized players if ever we pass the qualifiers. We have lots of naturalized players standing almost at 7 footers.

Coach Tab also knows already how to rotate these players so blending it with the young cores shouldn't be a problem.

6th Man player of the year, his addition will surely boost every single players that will represent our country, we know he loves playing wearing the Jersey of our team, he loves being Pinoy. Adding him plus those  qualified PBA veterans, would give a much better chance for the entire Gilas to have some good run internationally.

No question with Coach Tab capabilities, we are seeing how he really manage to blend each players, he have a team and those who've got the privileges to play needs to adjust with the types of game coach Tab have.
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June 22, 2021, 05:28:43 PM
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The Philippines is not expected to win all the way, but beating a good team like SoKOR is already a great achievement as they have been beating us before. We send a team that is not even popular, not mature enough, or has a big experience in international games, but here we are now, we are winning and proving to the world the Basketball in the Philippines keeps improving.

Indeed, a win against South Korea is already a great achievement for these young fellows and they did not do it once but twice, that is not a fluke.

These cadets would have a difficult time if they face teams like Iran or Australia and I don't expect them to win against those teams I've mentioned but they are already deserving to be in the final roster with their performance against SoKor, though this is not possible as we all know that the final roster would have some veterans in it and possibly an NBA star in Jordan Clarkson.
I think that they have learned a lot from the previous roster, and have watched the tape, going to that game, still a young team but already, proving a lot that they can do it, Clarkson is still not clear I think, as he still needs approval from the jazz, but we still hope he can play under our flag, and bring glory to the Filipino people.

They've got good acheievements so far, and moving to forward this cadets really lifting high our flag.

Jordan Clarkson if he got the clearance which is really very possible after that great performance from the last NBA regular to semi finals, he bring pride to our country and for sure playing under our flag is no longer hard for him. He proved he's worth can ask for some favor now.

Gilas still have a long way to go, so far so good as per the cadets performances as a team!

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June 22, 2021, 08:55:15 PM
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The Philippines is not expected to win all the way, but beating a good team like SoKOR is already a great achievement as they have been beating us before. We send a team that is not even popular, not mature enough, or has a big experience in international games, but here we are now, we are winning and proving to the world the Basketball in the Philippines keeps improving.

Indeed, a win against South Korea is already a great achievement for these young fellows and they did not do it once but twice, that is not a fluke.

These cadets would have a difficult time if they face teams like Iran or Australia and I don't expect them to win against those teams I've mentioned but they are already deserving to be in the final roster with their performance against SoKor, though this is not possible as we all know that the final roster would have some veterans in it and possibly an NBA star in Jordan Clarkson.
I think that they have learned a lot from the previous roster, and have watched the tape, going to that game, still a young team but already, proving a lot that they can do it, Clarkson is still not clear I think, as he still needs approval from the jazz, but we still hope he can play under our flag, and bring glory to the Filipino people.

That would be a great addition, but of course it's necessary to still get that chemistry as it's possible the play would change and it will be more focus on Clarkson holding and shooting the ball most of the time, I hope we won't see that as what makes this Gilas line up now, is their good chemistry on the court.

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June 22, 2021, 09:02:49 PM
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El Presidente’ urges SBP to keep Gilas core for Fiba 2023

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BASKETBALL legend Ramon Fernandez believes keeping the young core of the Gilas Pilipinas team will be to the benefit of the country’s campaign in the Fiba World Cup two years from now.

Not that he’s disregarding the significant help PBA players could offer to the national team, but the 67-year-old Philippine Sports Commissioner said it would be better to just focus on working on the cohesion and chemistry of this same unit that just completed a six-game sweep of all its games in the qualifiers for the Fiba Asia Cup.

What can you say about this? would you agree with Ramon Fernandez here?
IMO, I think we should give them a chance, do not replace them with PBA players as they have already proven their worth.

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June 22, 2021, 09:14:44 PM
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What can you say about this? would you agree with Ramon Fernandez here?
IMO, I think we should give them a chance, do not replace them with PBA players as they have already proven their worth.

I agree with Jimmy Alapag's saying that once PH took the World FIBA, they will still need the veteran guys and not just pure cadets on their roster.

“But if you talk about playing against the world-class teams, your Serbias, your Croatias, and your Argentinas, me, personally, you’ll need some professional guys there.” link

The better setup would be, those top 5 performers on cadets then the rest will be the professional ones. That will be a good combination.

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What can you say about this? would you agree with Ramon Fernandez here?
IMO, I think we should give them a chance, do not replace them with PBA players as they have already proven their worth.

I agree with Jimmy Alapag's saying that once PH took the World FIBA, they will still need the veteran guys and not just pure cadets on their roster.

“But if you talk about playing against the world-class teams, your Serbias, your Croatias, and your Argentinas, me, personally, you’ll need some professional guys there.” link

The better setup would be, those top 5 performers on cadets then the rest will be the professional ones. That will be a good combination.



Maybe the commissioner just wants to try these young players to the FIBA world and see if the Gilas could compete well. Actually, our main purpose here is just to be in the FIBA world, that is already our greatest achievement as we can never win against very talk American and European players. You can get the top players in the PBA but they don't have the same chemistry as the current roster, that would still be useless IMO.

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