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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
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July 22, 2021, 09:11:46 PM
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Salute to the teams and players that always have a clean match.............

Just like other sports, I think the main culprit of sports rigging is not the team or the players, it's probably the people officiating the game, that way, the rig is not so obvious and as we observed, we don't usually see a player that is consistent but having a bad game, it's actually the referees making inconsistent calls.

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July 22, 2021, 09:25:57 PM
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Salute to the teams and players that always have a clean match.............

Just like other sports, I think the main culprit of sports rigging is not the team or the players, it's probably the people officiating the game, that way, the rig is not so obvious and as we observed, we don't usually see a player that is consistent but having a bad game, it's actually the referees making inconsistent calls.
Yes, that's likely. But these are accusations and we've got no proof anyway this is just a discussion of what we think is actually happening. Without such approval from the top officials, there will be no rigging of match or there won't be favor that shall be granted. We've heard it once and ones there's another guy from the league starts to voice out his frustration, well, that confirms the first voice that we've heard about how rigged the league is. And for the meantime, let's forget about this discussion and let's focus on the current games that they're giving us.

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July 22, 2021, 09:28:17 PM
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Two games for today but I'm shying away from that Ginebra vs Blackwater game because the spread is too high and in this stage of the elimination, everything is unstable and unpredictable hehe.

Betting against the Beermen here because TR7 is out while Fajardo will be playing with controlled minutes while NLEX is doing just fine.
 
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July 22, 2021, 09:29:41 PM
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Salute to the teams and players that always have a clean match.............

Just like other sports, I think the main culprit of sports rigging is not the team or the players, it's probably the people officiating the game, that way, the rig is not so obvious and as we observed, we don't usually see a player that is consistent but having a bad game, it's actually the referees making inconsistent calls.
Yes, that's likely. But these are accusations and we've got no proof anyway this is just a discussion of what we think is actually happening. Without such approval from the top officials, there will be no rigging of match or there won't be favor that shall be granted. We've heard it once and ones there's another guy from the league starts to voice out his frustration, well, that confirms the first voice that we've heard about how rigged the league is. And for the meantime, let's forget about this discussion and let's focus on the current games that they're giving us.

There's no way the officials will make this league a rig one, it's not like a wrestling match, it's a real competition with real pride, it's just sometimes there are questionable calls that will make people think this league is rigged. Referees will play a vital role in sports rigging, and if it will happen, the team will have no idea that referees are cooking the game to make a specific team win.

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July 22, 2021, 10:24:49 PM
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Two games for today but I'm shying away from that Ginebra vs Blackwater game because the spread is too high and in this stage of the elimination, everything is unstable and unpredictable hehe.

Betting against the Beermen here because TR7 is out while Fajardo will be playing with controlled minutes while NLEX is doing just fine.
 


I think SMB will bounce back and win, and they normally win in a dominant manner so it's good to bet on the SMB spread in this game. if we are still doubtful if they'll cover, then we can always take the money line with lower odds. I also noticed that since it's the last game, sometimes it will be a close match so ML is really the right bet at this moment. We have 1.40 for ML bet, it's worth a shot.

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July 23, 2021, 02:52:05 AM
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We have 1.40 for ML bet, it's worth a shot.

I'd rather pick an adjusted odds on handicap if your mindset thinks that SMB will bounce back. It's much worth it and the same risks on their ML odds.

For now, I will stay away at any Moneyline bet for top teams as they are not showing their full best yet, or maybe below tiers are more serious for now. These top teams will eventually wake up in the mid of standing if they see there's something wrong and to have a good positioning on the post-elimination.
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July 23, 2021, 09:04:28 AM
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I don't know if somebody here already know the news but one reliable page from Facebook (One Sports) told that Ray Parks Jr. has been release therefore, he hasn't have any contract as of this moment. This is the exact caption.

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It was reported, and long been rumored, that Parks is Japan bound. | via ESPN5's Philip Matel

Now the TNT doesn't have any problems anymore with him. What would be the future of Ray Parks Cheesy. My prediction is that he might sign a contract into the Japan B League like many other Filipino Players are doing or he might play in the US since it is where his career started. Smiley

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July 23, 2021, 10:27:46 AM
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Ginebra won the first game, they bounce back from their first game loss.

They won by 14 points and that's good as they also covered the point spread which is -12.5

All the starting 5 of Ginebra had double-digit points, they seemed to share the ball pretty well.

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July 23, 2021, 10:48:08 AM
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Ginebra won the first game, they bounce back from their first game loss.

They won by 14 points and that's good as they also covered the point spread which is -12.5

All the starting 5 of Ginebra had double-digit points, they seemed to share the ball pretty well.

Tenorio 17
Thompson 11
Pringle 19
Aguilar 14
Standhardinger 11


That was a statement that they are really a good team.

Standhardinger and Aguilar should be both healthy so they'll dominate inside, and this lineup is a very defensive line up so I still like their chances of winning the PBA championship this season. The new addition is only Standhardinger but we know he can blend pretty well to any team as he has played a lot of teams already and with good experience.

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July 23, 2021, 10:56:42 AM
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Ginebra won the first game, they bounce back from their first game loss.

They won by 14 points and that's good as they also covered the point spread which is -12.5

All the starting 5 of Ginebra had double-digit points, they seemed to share the ball pretty well.

Tenorio 17
Thompson 11
Pringle 19
Aguilar 14
Standhardinger 11


That was a statement that they are really a good team.

Standhardinger and Aguilar should be both healthy so they'll dominate inside, and this lineup is a very defensive line up so I still like their chances of winning the PBA championship this season. The new addition is only Standhardinger but we know he can blend pretty well to any team as he has played a lot of teams already and with good experience.

So early to tell about winning a championship but its really a good decision to get Standhardingers on their line up since as you said they are perfect blend on defensive side if the coaching staff will know how to use this guy's and create good chemistry together then provably wen see this team go to finals. I also said it's early to say about them winning the champ since SMB super team still intact and other teams have a good roosters this season.

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July 23, 2021, 11:00:04 AM
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The current line up of Ginebra is pretty good than the older season. Stanley Pringle, LA Tenorio and Christian Standhardinger the big 3 of the team  has a good teamwork lead by coach Tim. Ginebra has a potential of winning as of their gameplay they prove that they can win.


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July 23, 2021, 11:17:28 AM
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Ginebra won the first game, they bounce back from their first game loss.

They won by 14 points and that's good as they also covered the point spread which is -12.5

All the starting 5 of Ginebra had double-digit points, they seemed to share the ball pretty well.

Tenorio 17
Thompson 11
Pringle 19
Aguilar 14
Standhardinger 11


That was a statement that they are really a good team.

Standhardinger and Aguilar should be both healthy so they'll dominate inside, and this lineup is a very defensive line up so I still like their chances of winning the PBA championship this season. The new addition is only Standhardinger but we know he can blend pretty well to any team as he has played a lot of teams already and with good experience.

So early to tell about winning a championship but its really a good decision to get Standhardingers on their line up since as you said they are perfect blend on defensive side if the coaching staff will know how to use this guy's and create good chemistry together then provably wen see this team go to finals. I also said it's early to say about them winning the champ since SMB super team still intact and other teams have a good roosters this season.

Agree with that, C. Stand though shorter than Greg, he is more talented and has an IQ in the court, so it's a great decision by the Ginebra to acquire him and Ginebra had already proven that they can win the championship without Greg.

The current line up of Ginebra is pretty good than the older season. Stanley Pringle, LA Tenorio and Christian Standhardinger the big 3 of the team  has a good teamwork lead by coach Tim. Ginebra has a potential of winning as of their gameplay they prove that they can win.

Not only this game or the coming game, I think they'll be a big favorite to win the championship.

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July 23, 2021, 11:47:54 AM
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Guys don't overreact with that recent win of BGSM.

I'm not degrading Blackwater as a team but it should be expected that BGSM can handle them. The gap is very large in terms of the roster list.

Blackwater was even able to make a rally and cut the lead down to 2 entering the 4Q. I'm more impressed with that despited lack of good role players against the monsters of BGSM.

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July 23, 2021, 01:10:27 PM
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Guys don't overreact with that recent win of BGSM.

I'm not degrading Blackwater as a team but it should be expected that BGSM can handle them. The gap is very large in terms of the roster list.

Blackwater was even able to make a rally and cut the lead down to 2 entering the 4Q. I'm more impressed with that despited lack of good role players against the monsters of BGSM.

Right, Blackwater is a bad team, so we can expect that the BGSM will beat them easily, especially they are coming from a big loss. In the 2nd game, SMB had dominated the NLEX road warriors, I think it's a good win for them. Perez leads the SMB with 21 big points, while they also have 5 players with double digit scores.

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July 23, 2021, 01:15:24 PM
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Guys don't overreact with that recent win of BGSM.

I'm not degrading Blackwater as a team but it should be expected that BGSM can handle them. The gap is very large in terms of the roster list.

Blackwater was even able to make a rally and cut the lead down to 2 entering the 4Q. I'm more impressed with that despited lack of good role players against the monsters of BGSM.

Right, Blackwater is a bad team, so we can expect that the BGSM will beat them easily, especially they are coming from a big loss. In the 2nd game, SMB had dominated the NLEX road warriors, I think it's a good win for them. Perez leads the SMB with 21 big points, while they also have 5 players with double digit scores.

Romeo did not play, maybe he is still resting to heal that injury he suffered in the first game. I think I will watch the highlights because I love that SMB has won the game, also, Fajardo seems to be slowly getting back on his grove, he played 24 minutes made 14 points and 10 rebounds, that's a good start.
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July 23, 2021, 01:55:15 PM
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Romeo did not play, maybe he is still resting to heal that injury he suffered in the first game. I think I will watch the highlights because I love that SMB has won the game, also, Fajardo seems to be slowly getting back on his grove, he played 24 minutes made 14 points and 10 rebounds, that's a good start.

Fajardo set the tone and Tautua finish what Junemar have started and dominated the NLEX Road Warriors. I never expected that from Fajardo since he was sloppy in their first game. This is bad news for other teams that Fajardo starting to find his rhythm, few more games, and the Kraken will be unleashed hehe.



^^ that was a mistake on my part as on my mind I would be betting for NLEX but just surprised to see my ticket have won lol. Must be a sign on not to go against the Beermen from hereon.
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July 23, 2021, 02:22:42 PM
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Romeo did not play, maybe he is still resting to heal that injury he suffered in the first game. I think I will watch the highlights because I love that SMB has won the game, also, Fajardo seems to be slowly getting back on his grove, he played 24 minutes made 14 points and 10 rebounds, that's a good start.

Fajardo set the tone and Tautua finish what Junemar have started and dominated the NLEX Road Warriors. I never expected that from Fajardo since he was sloppy in their first game. This is bad news for other teams that Fajardo starting to find his rhythm, few more games, and the Kraken will be unleashed hehe.



^^ that was a mistake on my part as on my mind I would be betting for NLEX but just surprised to see my ticket have won lol. Must be a sign on not to go against the Beermen from hereon.

Congrats man, that mistake give you a good win tonight. SMB now seemed to be fully intact again, they are so confident as they have their best player back in the game. NLEX had a good start but they just dominated by the SMB in this game, this is a message for other teams that the king is back.

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July 23, 2021, 03:53:50 PM
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Romeo did not play, maybe he is still resting to heal that injury he suffered in the first game. I think I will watch the highlights because I love that SMB has won the game, also, Fajardo seems to be slowly getting back on his grove, he played 24 minutes made 14 points and 10 rebounds, that's a good start.

Fajardo set the tone and Tautua finish what Junemar have started and dominated the NLEX Road Warriors. I never expected that from Fajardo since he was sloppy in their first game. This is bad news for other teams that Fajardo starting to find his rhythm, few more games, and the Kraken will be unleashed hehe.



^^ that was a mistake on my part as on my mind I would be betting for NLEX but just surprised to see my ticket have won lol. Must be a sign on not to go against the Beermen from hereon.

Congrats man, that mistake give you a good win tonight. SMB now seemed to be fully intact again, they are so confident as they have their best player back in the game. NLEX had a good start but they just dominated by the SMB in this game, this is a message for other teams that the king is back.

Hehehe, if all the mistake will be that way I wanted to keep making mind.. Grin

Good to see also that CJ Perez is bringing his offensive contributions knowing him as top scorer plus JMF's good rhythm this is what SMB wanted to
bring inside the table, with this kind of performances coming from all the players who played the game, we are seeing the dominance.

Congrats to all those who bet for SMB and BGSM handicap being covered..
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July 23, 2021, 04:24:02 PM
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Romeo did not play, maybe he is still resting to heal that injury he suffered in the first game. I think I will watch the highlights because I love that SMB has won the game, also, Fajardo seems to be slowly getting back on his grove, he played 24 minutes made 14 points and 10 rebounds, that's a good start.

Fajardo set the tone and Tautua finish what Junemar have started and dominated the NLEX Road Warriors. I never expected that from Fajardo since he was sloppy in their first game. This is bad news for other teams that Fajardo starting to find his rhythm, few more games, and the Kraken will be unleashed hehe.



^^ that was a mistake on my part as on my mind I would be betting for NLEX but just surprised to see my ticket have won lol. Must be a sign on not to go against the Beermen from hereon.

Congrats man, that mistake give you a good win tonight. SMB now seemed to be fully intact again, they are so confident as they have their best player back in the game. NLEX had a good start but they just dominated by the SMB in this game, this is a message for other teams that the king is back.

Hehehe, if all the mistake will be that way I wanted to keep making mind.. Grin

Good to see also that CJ Perez is bringing his offensive contributions knowing him as top scorer plus JMF's good rhythm this is what SMB wanted to
bring inside the table, with this kind of performances coming from all the players who played the game, we are seeing the dominance.

Congrats to all those who bet for SMB and BGSM handicap being covered..

Yes, the spread was covered, if someone here made a parlay of the bet, then he should have a good night as both teams had an easy win.

Time to move on for tomorrow's games.

At 2:00 PM, we have Meralco Bolts against ROS  (+4.5)
At 4:35 PM, we have Alaska Aces vs Phoenix LPG. (+3.5)

I'm wondering why Phoenix is the underdog here.
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