[POLL] The Official Dirty Turds Poll - Which DT needs flushing first ???????????

[The-One-Above-All]

Well you likely missed the point that we want to scrutinize his reasoning. Like remember that time we wanted to scrutinized your reasoning and you ...................well the rest as they say is history.

Sorry, but if I wanted the origin of my opinions scrutinised, I would have put on a more "entertaining" show for the contest. You'll just have to use your imagination.

Ha, well yes in your specific case then that could be the best course of action certainly for us anyway.

However for people that are still pretending their opinions are to be taken as a valid rebuttal in some form need to be open to some scrutiny. Like on the should GM be removed as a mod thread. We see lots of screaming for scrutiny and explanation or it is TROLLING according to mprep. We tend to agree. Although you get a pass vile vixen since we would not be without you on our threads.

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[xtraelv]

So the challenge again bring me some members you have tagged and flagged and we will compare them to the DIRTY TURDS in the initial post and then we will conduct a public examination of your reasoning behind your actions and non actions.  WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF???

We're afraid that if we point out that our sent trust feedback is public (and therefore you don't require our help to publicly examine it), you'll just accuse us of being too cowardly to cooperate with your "investigation" instead of accepting that you're just too lazy to do it yourself. After all, it's the same thing that happened when you promised to investigate our merit histories, and nothing ever came of that, did it?

I feel genuinely sorry for him that he/she/they/them ( constantly refers to plural - we and us - so I am trying to be gender sensitive) is unable to understand the social constructs or how the system works.

With all the grandiosity, display of superiority, self entitlement, condescending comments towards others and obvious attention seeking it appears he/she/they/them does not really understand empathy or basic social constructs.
https://www.nyu.edu/gsas/dept/philo/courses/materials/Narc.Pers.DSM.pdf

It is a classic sign of the Dunning-Kruger effect. where you simply don't understand that you lack knowledge.

Thanks for highlighting the problem there is no accountability

With decentralized trust - the system itself is not based on accountability to a central authority. So you are right. There is no accountability in regards to your (centralized) demands other than how you interact with the system.

There is also no accountability towards how you interact with the system other than how individuals decide how to interact with you. i.e. give negative/positive feedback, include/exclude you from their trust list or use the ignore button.

Each person gets to vote whether they trust that person or not - to exclude those they don't trust and to include those they trust - to not see feedback if you exclude them (or exclude default trust) and to see their feedback (even if not on DT) you include them.

Anyone and everyone has the ability to turn off the DT system for themselves and not participate in it.

If you don't use the system the way it was designed then you really have no mandate to criticize it.

To use a famous Satoshi quote (in a different context) to sum it up:  

If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.

[nutildah]

I feel genuinely sorry for him that he/she/they/them ( constantly refers to plural - we and us - so I am trying to be gender sensitive) is unable to understand the social constructs or how the system works.

This is a great point that I hadn't considered. Maybe the whole "we" thing refers to one of the 58 genders and that's why they use that term. I'm specifically leaning toward this one:

What does Two Spirit mean?

Two Spirit is a third gender found in some Native American cultures, often involving birth-assigned men or women taking on the identities and roles of the opposite sex. A sacred and historical identity, Two Spirit can include but is by no means limited to LGBTQ identities...

The term Two Spirit is an umbrella term across American Indian and First Nations cultures for a person who embodies both male and female spirits within them, hence Two Spirit.

Two Spirits, thus "we."

[Foxpup]

Maybe the whole "we" thing refers to one of the 58 genders and that's why they use that term.

They'd better not be doing the "transtrender" thing where they're only pretending to be gender confused just because all the cool kids (eg Lauda et al) are doing it.

[xtraelv]

I feel genuinely sorry for him that he/she/they/them ( constantly refers to plural - we and us - so I am trying to be gender sensitive) is unable to understand the social constructs or how the system works.

This is a great point that I hadn't considered. Maybe the whole "we" thing refers to one of the 58 genders and that's why they use that term. I'm specifically leaning toward this one:

What does Two Spirit mean?

Two Spirit is a third gender found in some Native American cultures, often involving birth-assigned men or women taking on the identities and roles of the opposite sex. A sacred and historical identity, Two Spirit can include but is by no means limited to LGBTQ identities...

The term Two Spirit is an umbrella term across American Indian and First Nations cultures for a person who embodies both male and female spirits within them, hence Two Spirit.

Two Spirits, thus "we."

The Schizophyllum commune (the split gill fungus) has over 28,000 different sexes.

[The-One-Above-All]

So the challenge again bring me some members you have tagged and flagged and we will compare them to the DIRTY TURDS in the initial post and then we will conduct a public examination of your reasoning behind your actions and non actions.  WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF???

We're afraid that if we point out that our sent trust feedback is public (and therefore you don't require our help to publicly examine it), you'll just accuse us of being too cowardly to cooperate with your "investigation" instead of accepting that you're just too lazy to do it yourself. After all, it's the same thing that happened when you promised to investigate our merit histories, and nothing ever came of that, did it?

I feel genuinely sorry for him that he/she/they/them ( constantly refers to plural - we and us - so I am trying to be gender sensitive) is unable to understand the social constructs or how the system works.

With all the grandiosity, display of superiority, self entitlement, condescending comments towards others and obvious attention seeking it appears he/she/they/them does not really understand empathy or basic social constructs.
https://www.nyu.edu/gsas/dept/philo/courses/materials/Narc.Pers.DSM.pdf

It is a classic sign of the Dunning-Kruger effect. where you simply don't understand that you lack knowledge.

Thanks for highlighting the problem there is no accountability

With decentralized trust - the system itself is not based on accountability to a central authority. So you are right. There is no accountability in regards to your (centralized) demands other than how you interact with the system.

There is also no accountability towards how you interact with the system other than how individuals decide how to interact with you. i.e. give negative/positive feedback, include/exclude you from their trust list or use the ignore button.

Each person gets to vote whether they trust that person or not - to exclude those they don't trust and to include those they trust - to not see feedback if you exclude them (or exclude default trust) and to see their feedback (even if not on DT) you include them.

Anyone and everyone has the ability to turn off the DT system for themselves and not participate in it.

If you don't use the system the way it was designed then you really have no mandate to criticize it.

To use a famous Satoshi quote (in a different context) to sum it up:  

If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.

So after stomping xldivs mind into the dirt in public and pulling part all of his pathetic low functioning blathering and excuses for his friends undeniably dirty deeds and making fun of them to the degree he simply abandons them and moves to the next one.

We then offer him a challenge in public that he RUNS AWAY FROM CLAIMING HE DOES NOT WANT TO WASTE HIS TIME....hahah
He is terrified because he knows we will clearly demonstrate that although he claims the observable instances like undeniable scamming and lying, auction scamming, willful scam facilitating for payment, and undeniable trust abuse for whistle blowing....he IS WILLING to give out negative trust to NON PALS for far less. Therefore demonstrating he is clearly a DIRTY TURD HIMSELF and totally corrupt.

Come on XLdiv , you can debunk this by accepting our public challenge. We will thrash it out here and you can demonstrate your SUPERIOR knowledge and reasoning.

YES OR NO will you accept the challenge???


LOL at the obvious LIES he now seeks to divert with.

" I GENUINELY FEEL SORRY FOR THEM/HIM etc"  - then proceeds with an attempted public ridicule over something that has simply been explained before and is quite simple.
I mean if you genuinely did feel sorry for a person you would immediately proceed to try in a low functioning way to take the piss, LOL.... then says we have no understanding of EMPATHY....haha is this suchmoons alt? hahahah  Then wonders why we feel superior and can't help it spilling over into our posts. Please fool keep with us, we ask you only post on our threads from now on. Imagine getting you, foxy, suchmoon, tman, and the other jesters here to entertain us at will.  You are a great new addition.

Next let us address the other nonsense the slobbering corrupt fool that has been demonstrated clearly to be a coward and moron tries to mislead with.

What sort of moron even comes up with the convoluted reasoning. Or devoid of all reasoning. Which we will now refer to as attempting to foxpoop us.

If you do not use a BROKEN system because it is so broken and fucked that you can NOT even use it unless the corrupt inner self elected core decide you are allowed to then you have no "mandate" to criticize it.  lol   then suggests how you can use it to zero effect for the fun of it. hahaha

Look moron, how many times must this be explained to you and all the other dummies in meta: there is no accountability at ALL in the systems of control except to the self elected system controllers themselves who have a vested interest in colluding so that a tiny fraction of the board continues to control paid2post, trading, other rev streams, and now volume of posts. 

What could possibly go wrong?? I mean once they are entrenched they can only choose themselves to be ousted from these positions of power and are free to AS XLDIV DOES selectively enforce rules to the point where people get punished for small "suspected" infractions of the rules but GET REWARDED IF THEY ARE HIS PALS AND FELLOW DT for undeniable scamming, escrow scamming, willful and deliberate scam facilitating for pay, undeniable trust abuse to silence whistle blowers.

He says, well that because you don't understand  IT IS SUPPOSED TO WORK LIKE THAT ... haha. Well yes the design is fucked and according to the design it is and does work exactly like that.  Brilliant I have no idea why anyone has the right to criticize it then since it is supposed to

a/ be wide open to abuse

b/ reward abuse financially

c/ reward abuse by entrenching your power to abuse more

d/ reward abuse by allowing low function slobbering bums to feel they have some value

e/ crush free speech and create echo chambers

Yes I can see that looking at the mechanisms upon which the systems of control are designed that you can conclude it is SUPPOSED to work that way. However it could just be that theymos's is experimenting with things clearly had no real expertise in, or even that he attempted something that was actually impossible on an anonymous forum.

Now read that entire post and feel free to debate it xldiv but first ACCEPT OUR PUBLIC CHALLENGE you coward or else you will be added to the list of dirty turds.

The reason you will be added is this : You are trying to claim that undeniable scamming, willful and deliberate scam facilitating for pay, undeniable trust abuse and attempting to punish people for whistle blowing and other such things are NOT Financially high risk and therefore you yourself are a financial danger to this forum. Being on DT is also a position someone with those views should certainly not have.

WILL YOU ACCEPT THE PUBLIC CHALLENGE  YES OR NO coward.

The others like nutildah https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5190369.0  et al will obviously try to derail with any excuse.

[suchmoon]

Schizophyllum

Fantastic name for cryptohunter's next sockpuppet.

[mosprognoz]

Why am I out of this list ? It is a great honor roll and I would like to join it. 

[nutildah]

The others like nutildah https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5190369.0  et al will obviously try to derail with any excuse.

I think what it comes down to is this:

Why am I out of this list ? It is a great honor roll and I would like to join it.  

Perhaps someday mosprognoz-san, but it requires a lot of training and dedication to master the art of being a dirty turd.

[TMAN]

Nutildah still responding to TAA? Put the punk on ignore, imagine the bandwidth the internet would have spare if everyone just ignored TAA.

Can you imagine how bored TAA’s family must be from all the rants? Actually ignore that, TAA has no family or friends hence the need to post war and peace on here all the time.

Also I am pissed I am only 3rd in votes here, I’m the rudest prick on the forum and I’m behind Hhampuz who is like the most pleasent person I know

[xtraelv]

We will thrash it out here and you can demonstrate your SUPERIOR knowledge and reasoning.

YES OR NO will you accept the challenge???

This is where you are wrong. I have no superior knowledge or reasoning. I'm just a pleb that got cursed with DT.

I have no interest in wasting my time on a discussion that will be solely on your terms.

Those with superior knowledge or reasoning put you on ignore long ago. You are just stuck talking to the plebs now.

So after stomping xldivs mind into the dirt in public and pulling part all of his pathetic low functioning blathering and excuses for his friends undeniably dirty deeds and making fun of them to the degree he simply abandons them and moves to the next one.

From your statement it is patently clear that you have decided that you have already won something. Why distort that illusion ?

Don't hurt your pretty toddler feet when you are stomping.



xl div ? Is prison slang for "fool" the best thing you can come up with ?

Now read that entire post and feel free to debate it xldiv but first ACCEPT OUR PUBLIC CHALLENGE you coward or else you will be added to the list of dirty turds.

If I had the notion that it would be a debate free from Strawmen, confirmation bias, Ad Hominem attacks and other methods of distraction I would consider it.

However - your pattern of behavior leaves me in no doubt that it will not be the case.

Your word walls barely reference anything anyone has said. That is not a debate. It's a speech to yourself.

If you knew anything about me you'd have worked out that threats don't work on me. Do whatever you want.



You'd also already know that I have discussed my views extensively previously: Discussion about acceptable and unacceptable behavior. Community values. DT

I'd be happy to do it if it is with an independent arbitrator to ensure the debate is an actual debate and not just one of your circus stunts where you dance around naked claiming victory. DO YOU ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE ?  YES or NO ?

EDIT:

Alternatively if you don't like that idea. Pick a number of scammers that I have tagged and pitch an argument as to why they "should not have been tagged".
After that I will determine whether I agree with your argument and delete the tag or I will call you a poo bum or some equally inconsequential and ridiculous school yard term (or at my discretion tag you for supporting that scammer).

DO YOU ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE ?  YES or NO ? [Yawn...Insert your own ridiculous insult for not accepting the challenge]



See what I just did there ?

[Lafu]

Now that explains why i read and heard nothing from Cryptcunter and the rest of his Alt account gang !
Because the ignore is doing the Job realy nice and that what i read now again just get me sad of myself because of  unignore him for reading.
Result is that it is and was a waste time to doing it .
So much crap everytime and always the same .

Back on ignore

[four3200]

Lafu - dumb ass shit poster who is also a trust abuser. Supporter of liars and scammers on DT. Also associated with an exchange that looks to have pulled a huge exit scam. Beware of this snake.

Add xtraElf xtraevil

Cryptopia Dirty Hands

https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=xtraelv&to=Lafu

[xtraelv]

Lafu - dumb ass shit poster who is also a trust abuser. Supporter of liars and scammers on DT. Also associated with an exchange that looks to have pulled a huge exit scam. Beware of this snake.

Add xtraElf xtraevil

Cryptopia Dirty Hands

https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=xtraelv&to=Lafu

I was wondering when the "exchange uno for useless tokens" guy would turn up from his hibernation.
Thank you for reminding me that I lost a shitload of crypto there that I can't withdraw. It's only been xxx days xx hours xx minutes.

[TMAN]

I am rather disappointed with my numbers here, think I need to get more active and start tagging again. My legacy is dying

[Lafu]

dumb ass shit poster who is also a trust abuser. Supporter of liars and scammers on DT. Also associated with an exchange that looks to have pulled a huge exit scam.

Thanks for this reply.
Because exactly the same was written in the past from CH and the OP somewhere.
And looks like maybe this Account is also in the hands or under control of CH or TOAA and an Alt Account.
Thanks also for remind me too for lost also some shitload of Coins and Money there , if you lost some too there its your fault not mine!
Next one that goes on ignore , Cheers

I am rather disappointed with my numbers here, think I need to get more active and start tagging again. My legacy is dying

Would be nice to see you more active again 

[The-One-Above-All]

NO social time for you guys on saturday evenings then? lol  (just kidding)

All our favs flocking in now. Lafu who just happened to advertising and working with cryptopia right before it exited sucking away millions of investors coins. Hmmmm
perhaps the same was written because it is simply a statement of events how many different ways can this be worded.. WOW another alt of ours you guys have noticed. Of course everyone who voices some kind of legitimate gripe against undeniable double standards is CH or TOAA. Lafu the assfeltcher eating tman ass in public, yes tman all of your undeniable achievements and original thought provoking posts that you will not present, where would the board be without the tourettes poetry you shart out everywhere? I noticed that other dumb shit thepharmacist claiming " the forum just has not been the same without you lauda"  haha  yes there has been a lack of high level extortion and no huge shady escrow or even massive amounts of trust abusing whilst blowers ... please come back lauda we the DT members need more of this to take place. Tell us more about the time you were on the xcoin launch and you therefore know for sure there was not instamine/premine  those lies are the best ones we like you paragon of trust.

The best part is that you all accept the observable instances of financially motivated wrong doing are TRUE because you can not undo observable instances unless you pull a nutildah on them and are PROUD of them.  haha

Imagine our Default trust stacked full of those that are guilty of financially motivated wrong doing and do not try to dispute it they simply say we are proud of this and other ass feltching nobodies with zero achievements (well that is pretty much all of DT) begging to be added to the scammers and scammer supporter list because they say this is an honor roll. Haha poor theymos must be scratching his head saying to himself.... " well now that I examine the evidence presented and research it for myself it is indeed undeniable that my systems of control design have  enabled a bunch of scammers and scammer supporters to dominate default trust and cream off all the best rev streams for themselves and crush free speech,  then hold out anyone that seeks to oppose them and then silence whistle blowers with punishment that I have enabled.  

Oh well.

Still waiting for the people making funny excuses we pull apart and cowards who run away, and the derailers to try and debunk some of the observable instances??

How do you guys not notice that we just bitch slap you around  and keep making challenges your run away from, even just ask you present one central point of ours you have ever debunked , pull apart your desperate faux screams of trolling, force you into making ludicrous statements that serve as our entertainment.........what more can one do to crush 30-40 scumbags single handed.  I mean that's not including your ass kissers and mods you have on the payroll?  all crushed in our wake, driven to ignore us whilst running away from public challenges. I mean just BRING ONE CENTRAL POINT WE HAVE MADE THAT ANY OF YOU HAVE DEBUNKED??? how hard can that be??  

Nutildah, asks if we are mad?? lol please only post on our threads, you are our fav bitch to slap around. I mean the others have observable instances of scamming etc but your case is just way too brilliant to get bored of. For the small sum of 0.3btc back when btc was worth over 10x less than it is now so perhaps what 300bucks you would a do a 180 on your "strong principles"  and by your own words become EVIL and aid deception and facilitate scamming. Was that even 20 piece of silver back then?  

Even lauda and tman want more than that to scam don't they??  how much more did you drive the price up in your auction scam tman? I guess we can never know.  I wonder how much lauda claiming he was on the xcoin launch and there was no instamine/premine scammed people into investing before he exited and later (years later) said something like " it was too centralized" ... haha no shit sherlock. I bet there were asking for more than 0.3 btc else they would tell some dudes mommy and daddy he had "apparently" been a bad boy. haha  

@xl div

Now adopting the SS aproach its seems. Perhaps debunking his retarded excuses after (different) retarded excuse and then demonstrating his " it is meant to be this way" view of the totally faux decentralized systems of control is total moronic and corrupt. His empathy dig slapped back straight in his face as he scored an own goal, NOW he comes crying about ad hominem straight after his own derailing ad hominem gender and identity crisis speculations and fungi jibes. What a total idiot and embarrassment.

Now says he will accept our challenge with some arbiter ( likely tman lauda or nutildah) haha . You do not need and arbiter we will both present ONLY observable instances that are fully verifiable by any member here.  Why the need of an arbiter.

I will bring lauda, tman and nutildah WHO YOU DON'T TRY TO DISPUTE ARE GUILTY OF THE OBSERVABLE INSTANCES IN THE INITIAL POST but claim THEY ARE NOT FINANCIALLY HIGH RISK   ...all you need to do make sure you have left no negative trust for those that are clearly less of a financial high risk..

I mean so long as we do not find out you are actually INCLUDING ANY OF THOSE ON DT then that should be satisfactory and after the public examination you will not be added to the dirty turds list. I mean is you are not only claiming they are not higher financial risk than those you leave negs for but ALSO ARE CLAIMING these are the actions of the most trusted members here on this forum that would be another problem you have to explain in public.

FAILING TO MEET OUR CHALLENGE MEANS YOU ARE AFRAID UNDER SCRUTINY YOU WILL BE FOUND TO BE CLEARLY CORRUPT .

SO let's get on with it weasel. We will drill this down to purely observable undeniable instances of clear financially motivated wrong doing so you need no arbiter. Unless you plan on bring lies to the table? or things we can not verify for sure. You are going to come with observable instances right not some bogus " well, he looks like he was going to possibly do bad things in the future in my opinion" garbage right?

YES OR NO???

The ONLY arbiter we would accept is THEYMOS even though he claims lauda is simply sub optimal we believe this must be from lack of examining undeniable observable instances. I  mean I guess diving out of a plane and forgetting the parachute could be described as sub optimal, I mean hold a gun the wrong way around and aiming down the barrel before pulling the trigger is kind of a sub optimal way to use the gun ( for some). We only accept him so that we get a double advantage of the him giving his specific opinion on specific observable and undeniable instances.

So never mind trying to get one of you corrupt pals to be arbiter. Observable instances need no arbiter.

Now stop stalling. We will start perusing your negative trust allocations.  You find your weakest ( the threshold you have for accepting someone is financially high risk) and bring them here now. Pick 3 that will make it easier.  Now be sensible , don't come back with trade fortress when we find you have been giving negative trust for lemons love or that will just look really bad on you. We will later allow you to select even your strongest cases for leaving negative trust and see how they match up. However to find the threshold you must bring those you consider to be just over your personal threshold.

Hurry up.

We are looking forward

[OgNasty]

I am rather disappointed with my numbers here, think I need to get more active and start tagging again. My legacy is dying

Don’t get hung up on numbers. We all still remember you’re a piece of shit.

[xtraelv]

NOW he comes crying about ad hominem straight after his own derailing ad hominem gender and identity crisis speculations and fungi jibes. What a total idiot and embarrassment.

So after stomping xldivs mind into the dirt in public and pulling part all of his pathetic low functioning blathering and excuses for his friends undeniably dirty deeds and making fun of them to the degree he simply abandons them and moves to the next one.

You were boasting about it. Now you are whinging that I pointed it out ? You, yourself and I - please make up your mind !

FAILING TO MEET OUR CHALLENGE MEANS YOU ARE AFRAID UNDER SCRUTINY YOU WILL BE FOUND TO BE CLEARLY CORRUPT .

non sequitur

Failing to take action when there is no obligation to act is not proof of anything. Corruption requires "Mens rea".

The ONLY arbiter we would accept is THEYMOS

I accept Theymos as arbitrator.

However I see some issues for you.

1) Theymos has already outed you as Cryptohunters alt.

You (cryptohunter) might've had some case for the trust system being broken if you had handled your initial trust issues with rationality and patience instead of absolutely losing your mind and throwing lies around, and even now I could imagine your red trust eventually being cleared if you were able to attain a stable mindset.

2) It is up to you to convince Theymos to judge it and to prove he will be judging it. He is your suggestion. I accepted. Theymos decision will be final.

3) Theymos is on DT1  and has not tagged any of the people you complain about.

4) If you back out - it breaks the agreement that I just accepted.

[TMAN]

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xxx missed you too..

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zzzzzzz  so boring, its like the TV show Eastenders, every few years I end up watching 5 mins of an episode to remind me how shit it is, with your posts its every now and then I take you off ignore only to get eye cancer from your posts to stick you back on ignore again.

I mean whats it been? 1 or 2 years of incessant shit posts? TMAN, Lauda, now its xtraelv and Nutildah.. seriously you need a hobby or to wank more often.