Wilder vs Fury 2: The Rematch

[Saisher]

Is Wilder versus Fury 2 a go? I reckon negotiations for this might take longer because Tyson Fury joined a different organization.

However, the Anthony Joshua versus Andy Ruiz rematch negotiations is already being finalized.

Read in full https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-i-think-i-know-joshua-ruiz-rematch-heading--141467

But I still want to see both fighters go against each other again, that would be a blockbuster because honestly, that previous match could go either way, Fury can pour a lot of punch and Wilder rely heavily on his knock out power, it's something that should be resolved in their second match.

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[Kemarit]

Is Wilder versus Fury 2 a go? I reckon negotiations for this might take longer because Tyson Fury joined a different organization.

However, the Anthony Joshua versus Andy Ruiz rematch negotiations is already being finalized.

Read in full https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-i-think-i-know-joshua-ruiz-rematch-heading--141467

I'm sure it is still a go, Fury will just have to win his next match to secure the rematch with Wilder. As I have said, they have verbally agreed already. And it makes sense for them to really go at it one more time as we all know that the first fight was really controversial.

@pereira4 - I think it easier to cherry pick at this division because it is not as stack as let's say a Welterweight. The thing with the Joshua fight is that Andy Ruiz is a replacement and it's possible that he underestimated him as others have pointed out.

[mich]

https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/tyson-fury-v-otto-wallin/winner

As expected the bookies arent giving the SWEDE much chance seeing him for 10-1
This would really be a bigger upset then AR over AJ and relly shake up the hvwts!

[DarkDays]

https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/tyson-fury-v-otto-wallin/winner

As expected the bookies arent giving the SWEDE much chance seeing him for 10-1
This would really be a bigger upset then AR over AJ and relly shake up the hvwts!

Honestly I'm surprised Fury is only getting 25/1 on this guy.

The guy has fought 100% no-names, and has a terrible knockout ratio. It's even worse than Tyson Fury's knockout ratio and everybody knows Fury isn't a puncher.

This would be the biggest upset of all time if Fury somehow lost, I mean, at least Ruiz was an absolute beast in the amateur's and was known for wrecking bigger guys.

Otto is literally unknown, and it's a pathetic matchup to be honest, nobody should pay for this event if it's on PPV. Fury should have fought Povetkin or Pulev.

[peter0425]

Is Wilder versus Fury 2 a go? I reckon negotiations for this might take longer because Tyson Fury joined a different organization.

However, the Anthony Joshua versus Andy Ruiz rematch negotiations is already being finalized.

Read in full https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-i-think-i-know-joshua-ruiz-rematch-heading--141467

But I still want to see both fighters go against each other again, that would be a blockbuster because honestly, that previous match could go either way, Fury can pour a lot of punch and Wilder rely heavily on his knock out power, it's something that should be resolved in their second match.

That's right the rematch will bring more entertainment to all audience that will wanted to know who's going to be Excel and win, both fighters have heavy capabilities to win against each others that's the very  reason the fight went to draw as both fighters never giving up and fought well, the rematch will make a deciding factor.

Fury has the psychological advantage because boxing fans thinks he can robbed on the first fight. He give him a boxing lesson, he was knock down but was able to get up and finished the fight. Majority of boxing fans thinks that he wins and proved that Wilder can't even last 12 full rounds. But a rematch should settle as to who is the best hw right now and that is what boxing fans wanted to see.

[coin-investor]

The second match promises to be a blockbuster, they don't need to hype the fight, as they did in their first matchup, style makes a fight and these two guys like to go for a knockout and will not run away for a fight so expect a much action-packed match,and this promises to be a better fight than the previous one .

I thought the first fight should go to Fury he is in total control of the fight, but that two knockdowns really makes the difference, it's almost a total shut out, Fury is leading in almost all the rounds.

[hulla]

Even without the personal life issue of  Tyson, Wilder still has the upper chance to beat Tyson because Wilder is totally in shape these days which is the reason why he beat Dominic Breazeale on KO a couple of seconds during the first round.

If you take boxing technique and skills Tyson Fury is far better than a brawler and a heavy puncher like Deontay Wilder but the most amazing thing about Wilder is that he just weighs around 205 pounds and that is crazy that he is fighting as a heavyweight and the amount of power he has in that frame to knock out a very heavy boxer is incredible, both have their own skill sets and i would love to see the rematch. Tyson Fury does not bother about physical fitness all the time but his boxing skills are incredible and the most interesting part is the power versus technique displayed by both these fighters.

I understand you perfectly well and I want you to know put what I am saying into consideration because I'm not talking about previous records or activities of the flighters but for I'm talking about their current abilities.

Tyson = Left hand; Fury = Right hand 
 

This means he’s punching herself together with that two hands of him?😂😂

I wonder what will happen to him after the 12 round🤪🤪

Anyway about wilder vs Tyson’s fight?let the game decides soon ,but for me I am with Wilder on this one .sorry but I am not a Tyson’s fan 👍👍✌🏻

Am a Tyson those days that he's emotionally healthy, but now I don't have confidence on him. He's got more previous problems dealing with his personal life, so it could probably affects his performance. Being healthy starts from within. Definitely if he's fighting with Wilder, I think it won't be 100% as good as his old days. Let my bets go to Wilder, because I am confident that he could win over Tyson.

Even without the personal life issue of  Tyson, Wilder still has the upper chance to beat Tyson because Wilder is totally in shape these days which is the reason why he beat Dominic Breazeale on KO a couple of seconds during the first round.

Tyson is on the best shape of his life lately. Remember that he beat Klitschko with an huge beer belly, guy looked pretty ridiculous back then. Skills pay the bills, boxing is not a modeling pageant, we should already know this after the Ruiz incident. Joshua was too worried with looking good on instagram to get marketing/brand deals and underestimated the skills and willpower of the smaller, out of shape guy.

Also in HW it's better to be packing a bit of extra mass vs being a tall lanky guy like wilder IMO. Wilder is just a special specimen because of the way he is built. His skills are pretty limited tho, he will always lose without landing an huge hit that either KO's Tyson or if the fight is being close, makes it the deciding factor for the judges. Im betting on Tyson getting the job done this time, but it's pretty scary to realize the fact that Wilder can ruin your bet with a single punch.

Tyson, is a good fighter but the issue of Joshua losses to Ruiz was the act of underrating his opponent which he also said when they were speculating about the rematch venue. Mind you, Deontay Wilder is not busy entertaining the media but training and fighting to stay in shape.

[noormcs5]

I imagine he'll get at least another warmup fight in between, hopefully with somebody noteworthy like Pulev, and then he'll dance around Deontay once again.

Deontay wont allow him to dance around as he found the whole in Fury defence and almost KO him in the end of the match. I think Deontay will make conclusions of that and end match before 12 rounds ends.

I will not bet on neither sides, but I guess i would pick wilder for the win if it ever happens, maybe he is going for a solid knock-out this time or else fury will get most of the points and never again to be judge a draw like the first fight. 12 rounds of the past is an experience for each fighter and can be used can be used as an advantage to get the win, I do believe in heavy punchers and if this time it goes in, maybe fury won't be able to stand again in another fight.

It will be interesting to see who become the winner on this 2nd match. It won't be easy to declare Fury or tyson favorite before the match. I think both of them are favorite however fury might have some advantages over tyson but this does not mean that the chances of tyson are less. At the moment i am 50 / 50 on both.

[Upgate]

It's time for wielder to put nail to coffin on fury. The last bout was a narrow escape for Tyson fury and I was not in support of the draw decision by the judges and I felt wielder had the day.
The second bout would be epic and wielder will ravage Tyson fury on this one

[mich]

Fury explains why he ended up with Wallin fight
http://www.espn.com/watch/player?id=27379671
Makes you think the poor guy didnt have many other choices

[DarkDays]

Fury explains why he ended up with Wallin fight
http://www.espn.com/watch/player?id=27379671
Makes you think the poor guy didnt have many other choices

That link doesn't work for me, just redirects to the homepage.

With that said, ESPN have taken on Fury with a fixed pay per fight contract which is arguably quite lucrative. So best to get paid well to fight some bums than actually take on any risk.

Although, I doubt many of the top ranking candidates want to fight Tyson fury and have their record blemished, since he would probably beat anybody in the division right now.

He is unlikely to fight Parker since they're friends, Whyte just got busted for being a drugs cheat (after calling AJ a roid-junkie), Povetkin is locked in with Fury's brother, and nobody wants to see Pulev get whomped by Fury.

[hulla]

Even without the personal life issue of  Tyson, Wilder still has the upper chance to beat Tyson because Wilder is totally in shape these days which is the reason why he beat Dominic Breazeale on KO a couple of seconds during the first round.

If you take boxing technique and skills Tyson Fury is far better than a brawler and a heavy puncher like Deontay Wilder but the most amazing thing about Wilder is that he just weighs around 205 pounds and that is crazy that he is fighting as a heavyweight and the amount of power he has in that frame to knock out a very heavy boxer is incredible, both have their own skill sets and i would love to see the rematch. Tyson Fury does not bother about physical fitness all the time but his boxing skills are incredible and the most interesting part is the power versus technique displayed by both these fighters.

I understand you perfectly well and I want you to know put what I am saying into consideration because I'm not talking about previous records or activities of the flighters but for I'm talking about their current abilities.

Tyson = Left hand; Fury = Right hand 
 

This means he’s punching herself together with that two hands of him?😂😂

I wonder what will happen to him after the 12 round🤪🤪

Anyway about wilder vs Tyson’s fight?let the game decides soon ,but for me I am with Wilder on this one .sorry but I am not a Tyson’s fan 👍👍✌🏻

Am a Tyson those days that he's emotionally healthy, but now I don't have confidence on him. He's got more previous problems dealing with his personal life, so it could probably affects his performance. Being healthy starts from within. Definitely if he's fighting with Wilder, I think it won't be 100% as good as his old days. Let my bets go to Wilder, because I am confident that he could win over Tyson.

Even without the personal life issue of  Tyson, Wilder still has the upper chance to beat Tyson because Wilder is totally in shape these days which is the reason why he beat Dominic Breazeale on KO a couple of seconds during the first round.

Tyson is on the best shape of his life lately. Remember that he beat Klitschko with an huge beer belly, guy looked pretty ridiculous back then. Skills pay the bills, boxing is not a modeling pageant, we should already know this after the Ruiz incident. Joshua was too worried with looking good on instagram to get marketing/brand deals and underestimated the skills and willpower of the smaller, out of shape guy.

Also in HW it's better to be packing a bit of extra mass vs being a tall lanky guy like wilder IMO. Wilder is just a special specimen because of the way he is built. His skills are pretty limited tho, he will always lose without landing an huge hit that either KO's Tyson or if the fight is being close, makes it the deciding factor for the judges. Im betting on Tyson getting the job done this time, but it's pretty scary to realize the fact that Wilder can ruin your bet with a single punch.

Tyson, is a good fighter but the issue of Joshua losses to Ruiz was the act of underrating his opponent which he also said when they were speculating about the rematch venue. Mind you, Deontay Wilder is not busy entertaining the media but training and fighting to stay in shape.

After the rematch there are no excuses that Joshua can come up with, it's pretty much career over, he will have no arguments to come up with some reason why he lost again. This might actually play against him and either start rushing too much and get startched as Ruiz is better on the inside, or become too conservative and Ruiz becoming the aggressor and then losing an UD because many fighters think they can fight like Mayweather when they can't, and the judges can see that.

For me this is a nightmare of a bet, I may not participate. I will have to wait and see live updates on the odds. This is how people tons of money, fights like this are a gamble.

On the other hand there's a very easy bet coming in september by going for a win with Khabib, easy money there.

From the get-go, every aspect of life is gambling cause no one knows for sure what the future holds and you right when you said the rematch between Anthony and Ruiz will make us know if Ruiz previous win is a fluke but their rematch is somehow related with Wilder and Fury rematch.
Meanwhile, you still cant say Khabib upcoming fight is an easy win fight than Anthony vs Ruiz or Wilder vs Fury fight, for tomorrow are not promised.

[DarkDays]

From the get-go, every aspect of life is gambling cause no one knows for sure what the future holds and you right when you said the rematch between Anthony and Ruiz will make us know if Ruiz previous win is a fluke but their rematch is somehow related with Wilder and Fury rematch.
Meanwhile, you still cant say Khabib upcoming fight is an easy win fight than Anthony vs Ruiz or Wilder vs Fury fight, for tomorrow are not promised.

Well, you can predict with reasonable certainty what the future holds.

1. Tyson Fury was completely robbed against Deontay Wilder, one judge had them even on the score cards even without the knockdown rounds! That's freaking impossible.
2. Andy Ruiz didn't just beat Joshua by accident, he absolutely destroyed him in my opinion. People thinking that Joshua has to win the rematch because the first was a fluke are delusional. There were no lucky punches, no low blows, no injuries etc. Andy Ruiz stands a very good chance of counterpunching the s*** out of JOshua for a second time.

[milewilda]

From the get-go, every aspect of life is gambling cause no one knows for sure what the future holds and you right when you said the rematch between Anthony and Ruiz will make us know if Ruiz previous win is a fluke but their rematch is somehow related with Wilder and Fury rematch.
Meanwhile, you still cant say Khabib upcoming fight is an easy win fight than Anthony vs Ruiz or Wilder vs Fury fight, for tomorrow are not promised.

Well, you can predict with reasonable certainty what the future holds.

1. Tyson Fury was completely robbed against Deontay Wilder, one judge had them even on the score cards even without the knockdown rounds! That's freaking impossible.
2. Andy Ruiz didn't just beat Joshua by accident, he absolutely destroyed him in my opinion. People thinking that Joshua has to win the rematch because the first was a fluke are delusional. There were no lucky punches, no low blows, no injuries etc. Andy Ruiz stands a very good chance of counterpunching the s*** out of JOshua for a second time.

People cant still moved on with that upset match of Joshua and Ruiz eh?
I do really see lots of people saying that thing was a fluke and now they are confident too much that Joshua will definitely have that
rematch without even thinking on how Ruiz would prepare for this one proving out that one isnt a fluke but rather a pure skill.
About wilder and Fury first match was indeed controversial but well we should move on and lets see on how this rematch will prove out whose the best among the two.

[Theb]

Now I don't know how reliable of a source Tyson Fury is but he just confirmed that a rematch against Wilder is set at February 22 at Las Vegas. I don't even know how this is possible since both of them have scheduled fights against other boxers beforehand, I don't know how contracts works so I'm still leaning to this rematch being fake and this is just Fury making some statements ahead of both of their fights. They shouldn't leave out Andy Ruiz in their radar as well as he is also up there with both of them.

[rosezionjohn]

People cant still moved on with that upset match of Joshua and Ruiz eh?
I do really see lots of people saying that thing was a fluke and now they are confident too much that Joshua will definitely have that
rematch without even thinking on how Ruiz would prepare for this one proving out that one isnt a fluke but rather a pure skill.

Die hard Joshua fans perhaps 
They gotta accept the fact that Ruiz had the power and the hand speed to knock their boy out before they get heart broken again.

About wilder and Fury first match was indeed controversial but well we should move on and lets see on how this rematch will prove out whose the best among the two.

This is going to be another 12-rounder. Fury should be able to outlast Wilder but he has to be careful in the early rounds.

[btc_angela]

Now I don't know how reliable of a source Tyson Fury is but he just confirmed that a rematch against Wilder is set at February 22 at Las Vegas. I don't even know how this is possible since both of them have scheduled fights against other boxers beforehand, I don't know how contracts works so I'm still leaning to this rematch being fake and this is just Fury making some statements ahead of both of their fights. They shouldn't leave out Andy Ruiz in their radar as well as he is also up there with both of them.

I don't know, perhaps they are overlooking their opponent and looking forward for a rematch. But this doesn't make any sense at all. They should focus first on the opponent at hand before scheduling fights ahead of time. This what happened to Joshua, he just thought that he can just go over Andy Ruiz and thus looking for a Wilder rematch, unfortunately he lost that fight and now wanted to get back the belt just to get back on track.

[Jating]

Now I don't know how reliable of a source Tyson Fury is but he just confirmed that a rematch against Wilder is set at February 22 at Las Vegas. I don't even know how this is possible since both of them have scheduled fights against other boxers beforehand, I don't know how contracts works so I'm still leaning to this rematch being fake and this is just Fury making some statements ahead of both of their fights. They shouldn't leave out Andy Ruiz in their radar as well as he is also up there with both of them.

According to the article:

The British star told ESPN: "If we both get through our next fights then we’re going to fight February 22nd in the rematch.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/9745739/tyson-fury-confirms-deontay-wilder-rematch-february-22/

So Wilder vs Ortiz first and then Fury vs Wallin. If they both win the match, then a rematch will take place. Are the two really confident that they are going to win against those opponents thats why they are talking about the rematch this early?

Don't want to jinx them, but what if either of those opponents derail their plans though? This is crazy.

[hulla]

From the get-go, every aspect of life is gambling cause no one knows for sure what the future holds and you right when you said the rematch between Anthony and Ruiz will make us know if Ruiz previous win is a fluke but their rematch is somehow related with Wilder and Fury rematch.
Meanwhile, you still cant say Khabib upcoming fight is an easy win fight than Anthony vs Ruiz or Wilder vs Fury fight, for tomorrow are not promised.

Well, you can predict with reasonable certainty what the future holds.

1. Tyson Fury was completely robbed against Deontay Wilder, one judge had them even on the score cards even without the knockdown rounds! That's freaking impossible.
2. Andy Ruiz didn't just beat Joshua by accident, he absolutely destroyed him in my opinion. People thinking that Joshua has to win the rematch because the first was a fluke are delusional. There were no lucky punches, no low blows, no injuries etc. Andy Ruiz stands a very good chance of counterpunching the s*** out of JOshua for a second time.

People cant still moved on with that upset match of Joshua and Ruiz eh?
I do really see lots of people saying that thing was a fluke and now they are confident too much that Joshua will definitely have that
rematch without even thinking on how Ruiz would prepare for this one proving out that one isnt a fluke but rather a pure skill.
About wilder and Fury first match was indeed controversial but well we should move on and lets see on how this rematch will prove out whose the best among the two.

Firstly, I also don't believe Andy Ruiz first win against Joshua was a fluke because Joshua wasn't prepared for Ruiz surprise party in the ring but I believe Joshua will get his champion belts back in their rematch.
Concern, wilder and Fury fight their rematch will make us know the true capacity of the fighters.

[Theb]

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According to the article:

The British star told ESPN: "If we both get through our next fights then we’re going to fight February 22nd in the rematch.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/9745739/tyson-fury-confirms-deontay-wilder-rematch-february-22/

So Wilder vs Ortiz first and then Fury vs Wallin. If they both win the match, then a rematch will take place. Are the two really confident that they are going to win against those opponents thats why they are talking about the rematch this early?

Don't want to jinx them, but what if either of those opponents derail their plans though? This is crazy.

Well they should be. Tyson Fury is fighting another Tom Schwarz in the ring who even though is undefeated and has a high KO percentage they still haven't fought a world class boxer bottomline is Tyson Fury is the one who will baptized them in the ring. Wilder on the other hand got lucky that Dillian Whyte got suspended for using performance enhancement drugs into his previous fight so he removed his mandatory fight against him, now Wilder will be facing another boxer who isn't in the top five to prove his skill. Still doesn't prove how this kind of contract agreement work on both parties since I know bouts are always scheduled one at a time only not unless they are just talking about a non-binding verbal agreement.