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August 04, 2019, 06:21:18 AM
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4 of the 10 deadliest mass shootings have taken place in Texas, which is known for its extremely lax gun laws.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/el-paso-walmart-shooting-20-dead-26-injured-gov-greg-abbott-police-chief-greg-allen

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A gunman killed 20 people and injured 26 others Saturday after he opened fire at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, state and city officials said...

The suspected gunman has not been publicly named, but two law enforcement officials identified him to The Associated Press as 21-year-old Patrick Crusius of Allen, Texas. It was unclear what connection the suspect had to El Paso. Texas state lawmaker Jeff Leach said in a tweeted statement that the suspect graduated from Plano Senior High School in 2017...

Chief Allen said investigators were examining a manifesto that may have been written by the suspect and would indicate a “nexus to a hate crime,” but declined to offer details. The suspect will likely face capital murder charges, Allen said...

Vanessa Saenz, a witness, told Fox News that she heard several "pops" near the area and saw a man in a black shirt and cargo pants with a weapon shooting outside the building before entering the Walmart.

"He was just pointing at people and just shooting," she added. Another witness told Fox News that his mother died at the scene.

A witness told CBS News that he was about to enter the Walmart when he heard at least 10 gunshots and saw an elderly lady fall to the ground. He said he was not sure if she was shot...

Those who aren't from the U.S. -- what are your opinions on these seemingly constant gun massacres in America? What goes through your head every time you see a headline or read a news article like this one? I'm genuinely curious.

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4 of the 10 deadliest mass shootings have taken place in Texas, which is known for its extremely lax gun laws.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/el-paso-walmart-shooting-20-dead-26-injured-gov-greg-abbott-police-chief-greg-allen

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A gunman killed 20 people and injured 26 others Saturday after he opened fire at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, state and city officials said...

The suspected gunman has not been publicly named, but two law enforcement officials identified him to The Associated Press as 21-year-old Patrick Crusius of Allen, Texas. It was unclear what connection the suspect had to El Paso. Texas state lawmaker Jeff Leach said in a tweeted statement that the suspect graduated from Plano Senior High School in 2017...

Chief Allen said investigators were examining a manifesto that may have been written by the suspect and would indicate a “nexus to a hate crime,” but declined to offer details. The suspect will likely face capital murder charges, Allen said...

Vanessa Saenz, a witness, told Fox News that she heard several "pops" near the area and saw a man in a black shirt and cargo pants with a weapon shooting outside the building before entering the Walmart.

"He was just pointing at people and just shooting," she added. Another witness told Fox News that his mother died at the scene.

A witness told CBS News that he was about to enter the Walmart when he heard at least 10 gunshots and saw an elderly lady fall to the ground. He said he was not sure if she was shot...

Those who aren't from the U.S. -- what are your opinions on these seemingly constant gun massacres in America? What goes through your head every time you see a headline or read a news article like this one? I'm genuinely curious.


I am personally pro-gun, but what united states need is some psychiatric evaluation of everyone wanting to buy guns, and to be more strict about it.I doubt gun ban would help much, seeing that states with strick gun laws have high homicide rates, like Illinois or Maryland.
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August 04, 2019, 08:52:23 AM
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Those who aren't from the U.S. -- what are your opinions on these seemingly constant gun massacres in America? What goes through your head every time you see a headline or read a news article like this one? I'm genuinely curious.

it's a violent and military culture. no other country in the world is constantly on war, no one has so many military holidays. the mass media reinforces manichean views of good and evil. Jack Bauer taught people that torture may be cool, sometimes... in other countries violence is rooted in inequality, poverty. but in the US these delusional guys do for futile reasons and they see themselves as heroes.

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Is there any videos from this place?
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August 04, 2019, 09:14:09 AM
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This is a really big tragedy but I can't understand something.
Every time after these tragedies, the issue of arms purchases begins to be discussed, and nothing ever changes, everything remains the same.
How is that possible?
What has to happen that finally the very liberal laws in America about buying guns start to change?
How many people have yet to die in tragedies like this?



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ps : only cattles go to malls Smiley

Your post is a combination of "zzz" and "lol wut?" For the most part its unreadable and I'm not even going to try. However, you should know that it took place at a Walmart and not a mall, though they also tend to be filled with bovine-type people.

Answer me honestly: how old were you when you were first diagnosed with bipolar disorder or schizophrenia? I know you were at some point and I'm not trying to shame you, I really am just curious.


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August 04, 2019, 12:49:03 PM
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Those who aren't from the U.S. -- what are your opinions on these seemingly constant gun massacres in America?
There's gotta be some sort of reform in gun laws. I mean, the fact that you can just walk into a gun store and buy an assult rifle is absolutely insane, at least to me.

Also, the fact that this is becoming pretty common to the US citizens is kinda sad, makes me wonder if nowadays people are scared to go out to the supermarket or a mall? I'd be pretty terrified, tbh. And what's make everything more messed up is that you just know that that the media and politicians are gonna use this news as the newest source to push their own political agenda rather than trying to tackle the main problem.

What goes through your head every time you see a headline or read a news article like this one? I'm genuinely curious.
First thing that comes to mind is the word "Again?". You know things are getting bad when more and more people around you tell you that they're hesitant to travel to the US. Some friends of mine, even relatives, are scared that they're gonna get killed at the most random of places by some crazy mofo. I mean, there was a shooting in a garlic festival a few days ago, wasn't it? A garlic festival...wtf?

Btw, this might be a cliché question so apologies in advance if anyone gets triggered, is USA is the country with the most mass shootings in the world? I'm not asking about rates of murder, I believe 3rd world countries like Venezuela and Honduras are in the lead in that regard.

Legit question because I feel like I read news about a mass shooting in the US way more frequently than I do from any other country in the world, almost feels like this stuff happens on a monthly basis (I could be wrong). Maybe it's because the US is always on the spotlight so the media around the world prefers to pick up the news from this country? I don't know, but 3 mass shootings (California, Ohio, Texas) in a week is...a lot.

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August 04, 2019, 12:57:51 PM
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This is a really big tragedy but I can't understand something.
Every time after these tragedies, the issue of arms purchases begins to be discussed, and nothing ever changes, everything remains the same.
How is that possible?
What has to happen that finally the very liberal laws in America about buying guns start to change?
How many people have yet to die in tragedies like this?
I thought Obama was too careful, handling such a serious matter with kid's glove. It is now the turn of a business man Trump, nothing has changed. Some conflicting things I dont understand when a white guy with such a rampage killing in a place of 80% Latino. Maybe America needs to be careful how they treat racial disparity in the social media. Not everyone will be able to handle it very well with guns in their hands.

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Answer me honestly: how old were you when you were first diagnosed with bipolar disorder or schizophrenia? I know you were at some point and I'm not trying to shame you, I really am just curious.

ahahah ! the medical progaganda !

I spent a few years studying psychiatric illnesses, working on the schizophrenia ward of a psychiatric hospital and outpatient clinics. You exhibit all the characteristics of somebody with schizophrenia. However, due to your on and off-again outbursts, there's a chance you may be bipolar or manic with psychotic features. I have a strong feeling I'm not the first to say this to you. Can you at least tell me if I'm right about that part?

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Those who aren't from the U.S. -- what are your opinions on these seemingly constant gun massacres in America? What goes through your head every time you see a headline or read a news article like this one? I'm genuinely curious.

It's absolutely necessary to look at whether the shooters were on a prescription for anti-psychotic drugs in these cases.

I have thought for some years that Big Pharma is overprescribing and understating the potential dangers.

For example, suppose that it is believed that XYZ is safe to live in society if he takes drug Z.

What happens the day "T" he forgets or decides not to take Z?

Whose fault is it?

What has to change to prevent T?

https://www.cchrflorida.org/antidepressants-are-a-prescription-for-mass-shootings/

https://healthimpactnews.com/2018/school-shootings-psychotropic-drug-use-by-school-shooters-merits-federal-investigation/

https://www.ladailypost.com/content/brief-history-psychotropic-drugs-prescribed-mass-murderers
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Those who aren't from the U.S. -- what are your opinions on these seemingly constant gun massacres in America? What goes through your head every time you see a headline or read a news article like this one? I'm genuinely curious.

It's absolutely necessary to look at whether the shooters were on a prescription for anti-psychotic drugs in these cases.

I have thought for some years that Big Pharma is overprescribing and understating the potential dangers.

For example, suppose that it is believed that XYZ is safe to live in society if he takes drug Z.

What happens the day "T" he forgets or decides not to take Z?

Whose fault is it?

What has to change to prevent T?

https://www.cchrflorida.org/antidepressants-are-a-prescription-for-mass-shootings/

https://healthimpactnews.com/2018/school-shootings-psychotropic-drug-use-by-school-shooters-merits-federal-investigation/

https://www.ladailypost.com/content/brief-history-psychotropic-drugs-prescribed-mass-murderers

before confining people and going back to the early 20th century psychiatry, we need to answer this question:

why the psychotics from another countries are not doing mass shootings?

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Those who aren't from the U.S. -- what are your opinions on these seemingly constant gun massacres in America? What goes through your head every time you see a headline or read a news article like this one? I'm genuinely curious.

It's absolutely necessary to look at whether the shooters were on a prescription for anti-psychotic drugs in these cases.

I have thought for some years that Big Pharma is overprescribing and understating the potential dangers.

For example, suppose that it is believed that XYZ is safe to live in society if he takes drug Z.

What happens the day "T" he forgets or decides not to take Z?

Whose fault is it?

What has to change to prevent T?

https://www.cchrflorida.org/antidepressants-are-a-prescription-for-mass-shootings/

https://healthimpactnews.com/2018/school-shootings-psychotropic-drug-use-by-school-shooters-merits-federal-investigation/

https://www.ladailypost.com/content/brief-history-psychotropic-drugs-prescribed-mass-murderers

before confining people and going back to the early 20th century psychiatry, we need to answer this question:

why the psychotics from another countries are not doing mass shootings?

One other question you might ask, which country is the most heavily medicated on Earth?

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One other question you might ask, which country is the most heavily medicated on Earth?

good question, Tecshare!!! so why is this happening? why they are so sick?

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This is a really big tragedy but I can't understand something.
Every time after these tragedies, the issue of arms purchases begins to be discussed, and nothing ever changes, everything remains the same.
How is that possible?
What has to happen that finally the very liberal laws in America about buying guns start to change?
How many people have yet to die in tragedies like this?

Never changing never ending.

Guns guns and more guns.

Here is the simple math.

251 mass shootings in the USA for this year so far.

By definition 4 or more don’t  count the shooter

So 4 x 251 = 1004 lives.

Let’s say the average number is 10

So 10 x 251 = 2510.  While it seems like a,lot of people compare it to 330,000,000 million

Drop in the bucket.  The lives saved with seat belts and less smoking is over 10,000

So in terms of senseless death   What would you have 10,000 or 2510?

So the gov passed laws to do the easy life saving. Car deaths and smoking deaths were easier to stop.

I was talking about this in my lovely state of New Jersey today with my wife. We were discussing what out best guess to avoid a local mass shooting would be.

Like should we not go to the mall?
Or not go to a tavern?
Or not go to a movie?

For now we stopped going to the movies.  We know even though NJ has solid gun laws other states don’t .

Years ago I lived in New York City .  I knew a guy that drove to Maine once a month purchased four to five pistols legally in Maine. Then drove back to New York and sold them for three times the price he paid.

About 1500 was turned into 4500 in 36 hour road trip.
I know many countries don’t push states rights like USA
But states rights cause financial reasons for crime.

This to me is a huge flaw in the USA causing insane behavior and crimes due to inconsistent laws.

The age of sexual consent varies state to state. So what.

 Some guy is 18 his girl friend is 17.

They have a lot of car sex while driving she likes to give him hand jobs.
While in the state of New York she is of the age of consent 17 but in New Jersey the age of consent is 18.

So while drive from New York City to great adventure in New Jersey she starts a hand job and does not finish until in the state,of New Jersey .

In New York he is merely a distracted driver. A simple traffic ticket.
In New Jersey he is a pedifile  a sex criminal .

These inconsistencies in state laws are numerous causing many people to behave crazy.

Why not the government can make its mind up why not do some thing crazy.

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One other question you might ask, which country is the most heavily medicated on Earth?

good question, Tecshare!!! so why is this happening? why they are so sick?

I wasn't aware it was a requirement to be sick to consume medication. The fact is the USA is the most medicated nation on Earth. Everyone wants to pretend this is not a factor, instead opting for the personification of inanimate objects, blaming them for the acts of mass shooters, the majority of which are on some kind of psychotropic drug with the known side effects of suicidal and homicidal ideation.

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before confining people and going back to the early 20th century psychiatry, we need to answer this question:

why the psychotics from another countries are not doing mass shootings?

I have a theory this is all a matter of money, business.

In the USA marketing and liberal thinking has encouraged putting the crazies with the regular kids, in the regular classrooms.

People are hammered with the concept that "the drug will make them fine, it will make them normal."

But that's not exactly true. The links I provided show the details.
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Does the mega push for black abortions and black on black crimes matter? My television cares about dead people only when they are not from the Black Ghettos. Tens of thousands dead and no one cares. Millions of black babies aborted, no one cares.

Sad for the people, but 2A4Ever.


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Crazy.... and only reason is.... they where mexican origin   Roll Eyes

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This baseless wasting of innocent life is uncalled for and I don't see reason why people should be bend of taking each other life as we cannot create one. It is sad that this is happening now that we are having promotions for peace and when we are finding ways out of what divided us in the past.If  developed countries are not safe what is the hope for the third world countries that are be over power by the terrorism and extremists?
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