Limit signature campaigns

[actmyname]

If you read a post and you think, "nothing has been gained or truly said from this post," then it may well be spam.

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[Findingnemo]

And also having rule like "Posts in a thread after 100 replies won't be counted for paid post" will bring a huge change.

I don't catch your ideas here.
If you think such rule should be updated in forum, why not ask for automatic feature to lock threads after total posts inside threads hit 100?
Anyway, I don't think your ideas (in case I catch it correctly) is logically. Good posts are good posts, whatever they are 100th, 200th, or 1000th position in threads. Shit posts are shit posts, whatever their positions in threads.

Please don't ask for rule to stop people making their good posts, and giving their hands (through their posts) to help others.
Legendary members (good ones) should keep posting and help community or they should switch to read-only mode when they reach that rank or reach a fixed number of merits?

I am talking about signature campaign rewards so there is no need to have such auto lock feature,but when the post made after the 100th reply then it won't be counted towards the payable post but if you want you can still reply to 1000th post if it is subjective to do discussion but it won't be paid,such rule can bring spam mega threads to an end I believe.

[hd49728]

Your post is 103th in this thread, so honestly I don't think post is at 100th, 200th is trash by default. Good posts are always good posts, whichever ordinal positions in threads. Trash post is trash one even it is at second position, just after OP.
If this one considered, it might result in another trend, spam threads, instead of spam posts. Creating threads, then locking them after 100 posts, and starting new threads.

[Findingnemo]

Your post is 103th in this thread, so honestly I don't think post is at 100th, 200th is trash by default. Good posts are always good posts, whichever ordinal positions in threads. Trash post is trash one even it is at second position, just after OP.
If this one considered, it might result in another trend, spam threads, instead of spam posts. Creating threads, then locking them after 100 posts, and starting new threads.

I think chipmixer already have this rule but not 100 replies,its just spam mega thread won't counted as paid post even if it is not a spam reply and also altcoin section replies won't counted for their paid posts so the result is most HQ campaign in this forum its being.So it could bring some change if it will be implemented by all the managers is just my opinion.

[hd49728]

I think chipmixer already have this rule but not 100 replies,its just spam mega thread won't counted as paid post even if it is not a spam reply and also altcoin section replies won't counted for their paid posts so the result is most HQ campaign in this forum its being.So it could bring some change if it will be implemented by all the managers is just my opinion.

Spam mega threads depend on managers' opinion.

6. Posts in spam megathreads (based on my opinion)

Post length does not determine post quality

4. There is no minimum length to make a post constructive, but you can expect scrutiny. If you can post a constructive post in 12 words, you don't need to make it longer.

I think there are not exact standards for post-length or spam megathread, so let it be verified by managers. If there are a cut-offs, it should be something more than 100th post.

[shield132]

I mean it's no secret that people shitpost for sig campaigns. I think if we put a cap on their earnings, for example, once you've earned $5, you need to stop posting.

Also, impose bans on account sales on Bitcointalk, so people don't buy accounts to bypass restrictions on Newbie users that are there for a freaking reason

I mean, if you can buy higher ranked accounts, well that kinda defeats the point of having ranking systems now doesn't it?

Sorry, I'm gonna keep this brief. I know there's been plenty of talking on this issue already.

The campaigns which have shitposters are in black list, for example take Yobit, their campaign was banned, so isn't point still reached?
Campaigns aren't like orders, you post on this forum, see news and etc and at the same time get reward for it.
Did you ask something there and didn't you get good answer? I highly doubt that, maybe you would get some shit posts but most people there tries to really help each other, for example take mining and technical discussion sections.
You can easily ignore what you don't want to see.

[Pmalek]

...also altcoin section replies won't counted for their paid posts....

Posts in the altcoin boards are not counted because ChipMixer is a Bitcoin mixer and therefore needs no advertisements in the Alt boards.

That's a bad example, I don't expect my bumps to be paid.

Maybe not the best example you are right but I still don't agree that the post is in any way useless even if it is a bump. It is also not a regular bump because you bump the thread in the hours when the fees are low. If I didn't know how to check the mempool or the fees myself and I saw your bump post at the right time you could save me some money. Therefore I still think it is useful.

There are at least 3 pages of discussions in that thread starting from post #101+. I was trying to make a point that the number of the post in a thread has no connection to spam.   

[LoyceV]

I think there are not exact standards for post-length or spam megathread, so let it be verified by managers.

A good post is worthless if it's posted on page 200 of a spam thread. Nobody is going to read it.
On the other hand, a much smaller thread on the same topic as thousands of other threads doesn't add any value, even if it only has one page.

[hd49728]

I think there are not exact standards for post-length or spam megathread, so let it be verified by managers.

A good post is worthless if it's posted on page 200 of a spam thread. Nobody is going to read it.
On the other hand, a much smaller thread on the same topic as thousands of other threads doesn't add any value, even if it only has one page.

I agreed with you that threads with 200 pages should be considered as spam mega threads (they actually are).

100th post or post in 100th page is different. You likely misunderstood what I am discussing with Findingnemo.  

And also having rule like "Posts in a thread after 100 replies won't be counted for paid post" will bring a huge change.

[Findingnemo]

...also altcoin section replies won't counted for their paid posts....

Posts in the altcoin boards are not counted because ChipMixer is a Bitcoin mixer and therefore needs no advertisements in the Alt boards.

Spam is the main reason why they stopped counting posts on those boards since the chances of reading those posts by someone is really less,so bitcoin mixer is not the real reason why they skipped it.

100th post or post in 100th page is different. You likely misunderstood what I am discussing with Findingnemo.  

And also having rule like "Posts in a thread after 100 replies won't be counted for paid post" will bring a huge change.

Even 100th post in a thread has less chance of reading by anyone,okay now lets imagine what if there is a rule no posts will be counted for payments if it is in 11th page?

[iamsheikhadil]

This forum was created to discuss the application and growth of crypto and bitcoin in specific

So, any activity other than normal discussion is just a side stuff and not the main. That includes signature campaigns.

Signature campaigns aren't and shouldn't be the main goal of an user of bitcointalk.

However, the moment there's a rule created to target post count against the "importance" of signature campaigns, it sends a message that sig. campaigns are the most prioritized which can have an influence even on posting on the forum.

And it goes directly against the mission and aim for which this forum was created. Hence, if necessary, I would suggest a ban on all signature campaigns instead of limiting post count if it ever goes to that.

Not an enemy of signature campaigns, just that it shouldn't influence the normal confabulation regarding Bitcoin in the forum )

[Findingnemo]

This forum was created to discuss the application and growth of crypto and bitcoin in specific

So, any activity other than normal discussion is just a side stuff and not the main. That includes signature campaigns.

Signature campaigns aren't and shouldn't be the main goal of an user of bitcointalk.

However, the moment there's a rule created to target post count against the "importance" of signature campaigns, it sends a message that sig. campaigns are the most prioritized which can have an influence even on posting on the forum.

And it goes directly against the mission and aim for which this forum was created. Hence, if necessary, I would suggest a ban on all signature campaigns instead of limiting post count if it ever goes to that.

Not an enemy of signature campaigns, just that it shouldn't influence the normal confabulation regarding Bitcoin in the forum )

We cannot deny that signature campaigns did some good thing to the forum as well like bringing the investors and giving the real sites related to cryptos but in the recent days especially after 2017 spam begins to corode the forum due to bounty hunters.

Theymos got aware of this and then implemented merit system to bring some changes if that won't work for years then there will be no more signature campaigns here as theymos stated.

[friends1980]

Consolidate Bump!

That post is actually an informative and helpful one, and clearly not a bump post. It is a bump post for old readers of that threat, but for new visitors, it is very informative and helpful.

Your bumping deserves a thread on its own.

In terms of Merit, you're probably the most over-rated member of this forum. Even now, when we are talking about signature campaigns, you absolutely need to talk about bumping, because you know very well that what you are doing is not right and you need to find an excuse for your own behavior. It would never be accepted from a Member, a Junior or a Newbie. At least learn to shut your mouth when you should.

I think the forum community is wise and intelligent enough to decide if a thread is "informative and helpful" or not. If not, it will disappear and be replaced by newer, more recent and more up-to-date threads. It's what normal people call "dynamics" of conversation. Do you really think the forum couldn't survive without your oh-so brilliant posts?

I'd never have posted this message, if at least you would have had the decency of not posting the message I quoted. I am not even talking about your other self-confirmation threads, or the bumping of your old posts - which were by the way all reported and all deleted by the mods. But you asked for it. You know very well you are bumping for Merit and not for the sake of the forum.

You're the most pathetic Hero Member on the boards, mate, and the most over-rated one. I don't care how many Merits and posts you have. To me you are and will always be an ordinary Merit beggar.

You're a horrible example for newcomers.

[philipma1957]

And also having rule like "Posts in a thread after 100 replies won't be counted for paid post" will bring a huge change.

I don't catch your ideas here.
If you think such rule should be updated in forum, why not ask for automatic feature to lock threads after total posts inside threads hit 100?
Anyway, I don't think your ideas (in case I catch it correctly) is logically. Good posts are good posts, whatever they are 100th, 200th, or 1000th position in threads. Shit posts are shit posts, whatever their positions in threads.

Please don't ask for rule to stop people making their good posts, and giving their hands (through their posts) to help others.
Legendary members (good ones) should keep posting and help community or they should switch to read-only mode when they reach that rank or reach a fixed number of merits?

No but they could not have a signature for profit or to promo for free.

It is what I did due to this thread being started.

I used to promo the Avalon a841 for free
I send to promo simplemining.net for free

I dropped both due to this specific thread.

I still say shut it all off for 1 month. No avatar no signature nothing for December each year.

[darklus123]

The real problem that needs to be addressed are actually the "Paid" Signature campaigns. So I personally think that banning signature campaigns is still not the solution.  

When it comes to limiting signatures it might be a good idea. All the paid signatures should I think needs to make an application inside this forum. We should form a committee I highly suggest that it will be from the DT and Mods. Then we should form an agreement that anyone who wishes to apply should understand the risk of being tagged if proven spamming.

I know that trust system should not be used for spamming but I think it can be the best tool. We just need to have the right people.

While bounty campaigns on the other hand should have a separate site where they will be posting there proofs instead of here. Bounty campaign should also go to the application process. This idea is pretty raw and might have a loopholes that I haven't tought of.