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August 10, 2019, 05:16:12 PM
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I do not quite agree with this, I do not believe that merits should ever be given as a gift. One of the definitions of what a gift is, is: "something gained incidentally without effort".
And effort and quality are two indispensable factors that ought to be present in one's post before such person should be merited, except it's a merit for something being comical or witty, then it's understandable.

But gifting out merits for absolutely nothing whatsoever, post lacking quality, effort, or isn't in any way witty or interesting. Then I think it's not just cool, it may not be wrong in the rules, but it just feels wrong to do so.

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August 10, 2019, 06:17:56 PM
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A simple guess is, the user is just trying to get into a paid bitcoin signature campaign anything soon as most campaigns now requires at least 5+ earned merit to be eligible or altcoin signature campaigns that require earned merits to be accepted (seen few lately with that requirement). The possibilities of both account been operated by the small individuals is there but since there isn't any evidence we just have to assume they're different individuals.

OP since you're kinda interested in the accounts involve you can keep an eye on what the reciever does next like if account trys to join a campaign that requires earned merit. Then the whole merit transaction becomes suspicious for now it's just one of those emotional meriting cases.

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August 10, 2019, 07:17:45 PM
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Obviously not, we have rights on what amount of merits we will give to a user. Let the campaign manager judge those, I know that he/she will not get into any campaigns.

as a gift,...
< a gift to someone >
I do not quite agree with this, I do not believe that merits should ever be given as a gift. One of the definitions of what a gift is, is: "something gained incidentally without effort".
And effort and quality are two indispensable factors that ought to be present in one's post before such person should be merited, except it's a merit for something being comical or witty, then it's understandable.

But gifting out merits for absolutely nothing whatsoever, post lacking quality, effort, or isn't in any way witty or interesting. Then I think it's not just cool, it may not be wrong in the rules, but it just feels wrong to do so.

Agree though, merits are for information or statements that might help the other users here. As long as the user appreciate the work of another user, he/she can merit those. I can't recognize it as a gift, it's a different aspect, merits should be given away to those deserving people not for personal desires.

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August 11, 2019, 07:47:46 AM
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I thought maybe this had something to do between the idol and the fans. Because as we know, even one word from the idol will be so meaningful for his fans   Shocked
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August 11, 2019, 02:10:19 PM
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I thought maybe this had something to do between the idol and the fans. Because as we know, even one word from the idol will be so meaningful for his fans   Shocked
It is nearly like merit begging, between fan and idol, that is discouraged here. I don't call it is merit abusements or serious merit abusement, but user should avoid to send their smerits this way. It is discouraged (like account sellings) and should be avoided!
If an idol give hands and help to answer questions of fans to help them solve their issues, yeah, in this case, idols and their posts deserve merits. In contrast, it is not best way to use smerits for non-sense posts, but sometimes joking posts are nonsense for some people but make sense for others.
If someone don't seriously abuse merits, just let it be. They won't go to anywhere with it, and don't leave you behind them. Theymos emphasize about that.
If a DT member tags you for something stupid involving merit (ie. probably anything less than selling merit), then they're not going to be a DT member for much longer.
- Giving negative trust for merit trading and deceptive alt-account use may be appropriate, but you should use a light touch so that people don't feel paranoid.
Aside from that, if people complain about whether things deserve merit at all, then that's something to perhaps think about, but if you conclude that they're wrong, then that's that.

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August 11, 2019, 02:30:33 PM
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I thought maybe this had something to do between the idol and the fans. Because as we know, even one word from the idol will be so meaningful for his fans   Shocked
It is nearly like merit begging, between fan and idol, that is discouraged here. I don't call it is merit abusements or serious merit abusement, but user should avoid to send their smerits this way. It is discouraged (like account sellings) and should be avoided!
If an idol give hands and help to answer questions of fans to help them solve their issues, yeah, in this case, idols and their posts deserve merits. In contrast, it is not best way to use smerits for non-sense posts, but sometimes joking posts are nonsense for some people but make sense for others.
If someone don't seriously abuse merits, just let it be. They won't go to anywhere with it, and don't leave you behind them. Theymos emphasize about that.

For short, giving merits to poor statements is not valid. It will just serve as a helping hand for those who wanted to rank up. I know we're struggling to rank but It's better to rank up using the merits that we received because of quality posts.

Just think wisely, when we will give those merits, we should have standards on giving one.

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August 14, 2019, 04:37:59 AM
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Both accounts have recently woken up. aksplace has not posted anything since 2017. He woke up today at 3:54:11 AM, wrote that post at 04:00:05 AM and 5 minutes later, at 04:05:13 he got those 10 merits.
Those are the facts, it's up to the admins and DTs to determine if this is an abuse of the merit system or not. 

It is difficult to suggest that these two are alt accounts on the basis that they recently woke up. Since there is no moderation on merits, we cannot criticize it. Maybe Blackboran like this post too much while rest of us has no value for that post.



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August 14, 2019, 08:33:00 AM
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It is difficult to suggest that these two are alt accounts on the basis that they recently woke up.
I wasn't suggesting they are alt accounts. I was just stating the facts as described in my previous post. If they are alts or not is not for me to decide. If the merit sender thinks that post deserves those merits it's his decision.

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August 16, 2019, 04:02:36 AM
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Quite possibly, it could have been a typo, @BlackBaron meant to send 1 merit and mistakenly send 10.

Don't want to drag this any further, just a thought lol.

ps: Tag system would be good idea, I think.


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August 16, 2019, 06:53:08 AM
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Quite possibly, it could have been a typo, @BlackBaron meant to send 1 merit and mistakenly send 10.

Don't want to drag this any further, just a thought lol.

ps: Tag system would be good idea, I think.


If that guy sent 10 merits due to typo (10 instead of 1), and carelessness (not check amount before clicking on Send button); there is no reason to tag that guy.
10 merits are small amount, and do not large enough to call as merit abusements. Tagging someone because sending 10 merits for a non-sense posts will make them paranoid. There are many posts like that, especially from renowned users.

Case should be closed, in my opinion.

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